Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Kerry Gets Endorsement
Political Topics And Discussion > All Things Political > US Presidential Campaign 2004
Boon Mee
Kerry Gets Crucial Endorsement of "Godless Americans"

Well, Kerry and Edwards have scooped up the highly coveted endorsement of Godless Americans.

Ellen Johnson, Executive Director of the Godless Americans Political Action Committee, said that the Kerry-Edwards slate was “the clear choice over President Bush, who has spent the last four years eroding the separation of church and state, ‘packing the courts’ with judges who ignore the First Amendment, and imposing a de-facto Religion Tax through the federal faith-based initiative.”

Kerry and Edwards are the clear choice if you like living under sharia, as all Kerry's Islamic fundamentalist and jihadist supporters will attest, but we must've missed those violations of the separation of church and state, unless you think a NIH grant or Medicare payment to any hospital named after a saint is egregious abuse. And as for Bush 'packing the courts', tell that to Daschle and the other Democrats who keep blocking all the minority judges from coming up for confirmation. Merely being Godless shouldn't equate to being this stupid, and so far she's proving that the only thing worse than organized religion is organized anti-religion. Of course, you can't be really bright to name your organization 'Godless Americans' a phrase which resonates so well with 'Godless communists', 'Godless heathens', and 'Godless devil-worshippers', and now of course 'Godless Kerry supporters'. What's even sweeter is John Edwards own statement on Bush's faith based initiative.

"In a manner consistent with the First Amendment, faith-based charities should be able to participate in delivering services. But they should also meet the same anti-discrimination standards as other charities receiving government support."

John Edwards --Statement to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, January 7, 2004
So I'm scratching my head as to why the "Godless Americans" would be backing a Catholic and a United Methodist, who used to be Baptist, over a United Methodist (Bush) in this race, except maybe for their socialist leanings. I mean what else would get them out marching?

“There are nearly 30 million Americans who describe themselves as having no religion,” said Johnson. “This includes Atheists, Freethinkers, Secular Humanists, Rationalists and others who have little or no voice in our political process, and who are often ignored by the major political parties.”

“We intend to change that.”
Boy, for people with no voice their influence has certainly been overwhelming, seeing as how you can't even put a nativity scene on public property and schools are afraid to admit having a 'Christmas Vacation'. And if she's being ignored by the major political parties why did she just endorse one? Yet the bio of this representative of a voiceless and ignored segment of the American population says

"She is a frequent guest on national news and public affairs programs including C-SPAN's “Washington Journal,” MSNBC's “Scarborough Country,” FOX Network's “Hannity and Colmes,” “Heartland” with John Kasich, “The O'Reily Factor” and “Dayside With Lindsa Vester.”

For a person with no voice she's sure seems to be on TV all the time. Maybe she's just explaining how she can't voice her opinions.

Johnson pointed out that political hopefuls “go out of their way to court voters in churches, mosques and temples” and woo “religious blocs” of voters.

“It’s time for them to wake up and realize that there is another ‘bloc’ they have to start paying attention to, and this is secularists who believe in the separation of church and state, and are determined to stand up for their civil rights.”

"Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!" cries the moonbat. Perhaps she's unaware that we've had separation of church and state since the country was founded, where even today people can even get the phrase "under God" struck from the Pledge of Allegiance. Perhaps she's unaware that Kerry and Edwards are pandering to religious folks at every turn. You know the Lord is in this place. You can feel his presence."
John Edwards. Campaign stop at a Sidney Park, S.C. church, Dec. 28, 2003

"I believe that God answers prayers."
John Edwards. Washington Post profile, Aug. 7, 2001

courtesy of the VRWC
Huey_P
whats wrong with that?


are u somehow implying that being an Atheist is wrong?

wow. how American of u.

rolleyes.gif
Thaiquila
I welcome the votes of all Godless Americans to the inclusive, uniting, umbrella of the democratic party, led by our bold new president to be, John F. Kerry. Atheists and agnostics are equal under the law to religious people.
politiphile
what to say ? We live in a time when an organization exists solely to promote Godless issues, and condem rightousness, and a political party will welcome that support in order to attain political power. What will a party like that do with the political power they attain ? they seem to be amoral and untrust worthy based on the quality of the special interest groups that support them.
bob
QUOTE (Huey_P @ Jul 17 2004, 11:03 PM)
whats wrong with that?


are u somehow implying that being an Atheist is wrong?

wow. how American of u.

rolleyes.gif

Nothing wrong with being an atheist. Other than being painfully stupid.

[Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Eintein.QUOTE]

[/QUOTEThe further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge.
Albert Einstein]
KeepCanadaFree
SInce when is it a bad thing to not havea religion, all religion does nowadays is get people killed and starts wars.
Boon Mee
'YOU'RE GOING TO FIND US WORKING'

"So here's what we're going to fight for, and we're going to fight for it every single day, not just through this election, but from the day we win until the day we raise our hands and every day thereafter. You're not going to have to look for us on vacation. You're going to find us working for America." --- Kerry Delivers Remarks At Campaign Event, Cleveland, OH, 7/7/04

Kerry has missed more than 80% of Senate votes this year, the AP reports.




Looks like he's working real hard! cool.gif
Huey_P
first of all, i dont quite understand the point of this article?

it seems to be nothing more than hateful propaganda directed towards people who exercise their freedom of religion (or lack therefore).

calling people "stupid" and "moonbat" isnt professional, and severely damages the credibility of this already ignorant article and its author.

furthermore, what does this statement have to do with anything?

QUOTE
Kerry and Edwards are the clear choice if you like living under sharia, as all Kerry's Islamic fundamentalist and jihadist supporters will attest



how do sharia and jihadists fit into an article about Godless Americans?

they are GODLESS, meaning no Jesus OR Allah, so equating Godless Americans to Islamic fundamentalists simply doesnt make sense.

it is abundantly clear, however, that throwing in random, unconnected references to "islamic fundamentalists" and "jihadists" is a scare tactic used by this author to slander the Kerry campaign because he has no real point to make here.

typical right wing rhetoric and propaganda at its finest.


finally, how does Kerry being Catholic or Edwards being Methodist somehow make them an odd choice for the Godless American's endorsement?


it is completely possible to be religious personally, while at the same time understanding that our CONSTITUTION, the document that makes our country so great, calls for the seperation of church and state.

it is completely possible to be religious personally, while at the same time respecting the religious views (or lack there-of) of others.



so what exactly is the point of this article, other than a very thinly veiled attempt to ostracize and slander Americans who dont believe in God, and the Kerry campaign for being endorsed by them?


this does nothing other than to reflect negatively upon the person who wrote it, and the people (like Boon Mee) who support it.
Huey_P
QUOTE
Kerry has missed more than 80% of Senate votes this year, the AP reports.


of all the idiotic, frivelous arguments u neo-con fascists are desperately grasping at to slam Kerry, this is probably the stupidest.

Kerry was selected by the people during the DEMOCRATIC PROCESS of the caucuses and primaries to be the Democratic party's candidate for president because they felt he would be more effective in serving their interests as President than as Senator.

HE WAS SELECTED BY THE PEOPLE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.


its a testament to the desperation of the republican party that they are now trying to hold John Kerry accountable for WHAT HE WAS DEMOCRATICALLY SELECTED TO DO.

EVERY Senator, EVERY Governor, EVERY candidate for president has had to make sacrifices and prioritize in order to run for president. JOhn Kerry is no different.

when will u Repugnants.. err i mean Republicans actually start discussing FACTS, rather than these idiotic red-herrings?



and posting pictures of Kerry skiing and biking next to the statement "Kerry has missed 80% of Senate votes this year" is a pretty misleading trick..

if i was as simple as u Boon Mee, i might fall for it..

but until u provide evidence that John Kerry missed senate votes in order to go skiing or biking, u need to take that lame, desperate propaganda elsewhere.

youre worse than Michael Moore. lol.
Boon Mee
Kerry's (Latest) Position on the War on Terror
What is Kerry's position on terrorism? Even he doesn't know... laugh.gif

Despite the media’s obsession with President Bush’s failures in Iraq and casting the blame on him even for the CIA’s mistakes, John Kerry should be soaring in the polls. But he’s not.

Iraq is easily this election’s dominant issue—although the jury’s out on how many votes it will sway—yet Kerry’s polling has barely budged. After all, not being the unpopular guy often counts for a lot in elections.

But this is Kerry’s quandary: he’s not exactly a supporter of the war, though he voted for it, yet he’s not quite antiwar, either.

Fudging positions on intractable issues where clarity can only earn enemies makes sense. But wartime ambiguity for a would-be commander-in-chief does not inspire the necessary confidence among the electorate

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14269
Boon Mee
Cleo
QUOTE (Huey_P @ Jul 19 2004, 05:59 PM)
QUOTE
Kerry has missed more than 80% of Senate votes this year, the AP reports.


of all the idiotic, frivelous arguments u neo-con fascists are desperately grasping at to slam Kerry, this is probably the stupidest.

Kerry was selected by the people during the DEMOCRATIC PROCESS of the caucuses and primaries to be the Democratic party's candidate for president because they felt he would be more effective in serving their interests as President than as Senator.

HE WAS SELECTED BY THE PEOPLE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.


its a testament to the desperation of the republican party that they are now trying to hold John Kerry accountable for WHAT HE WAS DEMOCRATICALLY SELECTED TO DO.

EVERY Senator, EVERY Governor, EVERY candidate for president has had to make sacrifices and prioritize in order to run for president. JOhn Kerry is no different.

when will u Repugnants.. err i mean Republicans actually start discussing FACTS, rather than these idiotic red-herrings?



and posting pictures of Kerry skiing and biking next to the statement "Kerry has missed 80% of Senate votes this year" is a pretty misleading trick..

if i was as simple as u Boon Mee, i might fall for it..

but until u provide evidence that John Kerry missed senate votes in order to go skiing or biking, u need to take that lame, desperate propaganda elsewhere.

youre worse than Michael Moore. lol.

Well Bush is also running for President and he hasn't taken a hiatus from his duties.... or has he? Perhaps you could provide a few examples, where he has set his priorities aside.... that would be a better argument than, "The people have charged Kerry with campaigning rather then fulfilling his senatorial duties right now, because that's DEMOCRACY!"



Awaiting sarcastic rejoinder.....
Huey_P
QUOTE
Well Bush is also running for President and he hasn't taken a hiatus from his duties.... or has he? Perhaps you could provide a few examples, where he has set his priorities aside.... that would be a better argument than, "The people have charged Kerry with campaigning rather then fulfilling his senatorial duties right now, because that's DEMOCRACY!"


we're all aware that Bush spent nearly half his first year in office on vacation, and has spent more time on vacation during his entire term than any other president in history.

it just so happens that he was on vacation on August 6, when that CIA briefing entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within US" that Condi Rice talked about in front of the 9/11 Commission was handed to him.

that was a month before 9/11, a full month to alert authorities and increase airport security..

i consider that a pretty condemning instance of Bush taking a hiatus from his duties..



BUT, that is almost besides the point.. nobody is accusing Bush of taking time off to run his re-election campaign, and likewise, Kerry shouldnt be bashed for doing what he was democratically selected to do: run for President.

thats simply a cheap, unfair and insubstantive argument against him.

lets discuss REAL ISSUES, not mud-slinging.
Boon Mee
Yeah! Let's discuss the real issues and lighten up on the mud-slinging as The Massively Moronic Masticating Michigan Manatee continues to do.

The article below comes from an unbiased reporter writing in...
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/st...4^25717,00.html

Fahrenheit Zero
Take the lies, distortions and propaganda from Michael Moore's film and what do you have? Absolutely nothing.

I HAVE long thought Michael Moore a liar, and should not have been shocked when I saw his "documentary" Fahrenheit 9/11.

Even so, I was horrified. This film - breaking box-office records in America - is so deceitful that it makes the infamous Triumph of the Will documentary by Hitler's propagandist, Leni Riefenstahl, seem balanced.

But what shocked me even more than Moore's hymn of hatred of America and its president was the reaction to it of the small audience at the preview I saw at the Crown multiplex.

Many there clapped when the dis-credits finally rolled. True, this wasn't the bellowing, stamping, weeping ovation that a poisonously anti-American crowd at the Cannes Film Festival gave Moore before a jury of Leftists and nihilists handed him the Palme d'Or.

Still, it was enough to worry anyone who prizes truth and civilisation, and I looked at the people around me, and wondered: are they so cretinous or so easily misled that they do not know that Moore lies? Or are they, like many of the Left, so immoral or frivolous as to not care that he lies, as long as his lies are sweet?

read the rest...
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/st...4^25717,00.html
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2009 Invision Power Services, Inc.