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Thaiquila
And Bush's NEANDERTHAL policies on STEM CELL RESEARCH are the cause?

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2004/07/...convention.html
Cleo
How do you go from Mrs. Reagan not speaking at the RNC to she is backing Kerry?

Ridiculous opinion with no basis in fact. Has Mrs. Reagan said that's why she isn't going? Pure conjecture with enough spin to keep Earth in orbit for a year.


Bush's "neandrathal" policy on stem cell research, the short version:

A. Since 1996, Congress has approved an annual provision to the Health and Human Services (HHS) appropriations bill specifically prohibiting federal funding of any "research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."8 This language is the basis for the ongoing federal ban on funding for research using human embryos. Congress must reauthorize this ban, dubbed the "Dickey Amendment," each year.

In August 2000, HHS, under President Clinton's leadership, published new guidelines for research using human embryos. These guidelines create a loophole that essentially claims if privately funded scientists destroy the embryos and extract their stem cells, government-funded scientists can conduct experiments with those stem cells without violating the federal ban.

On August 9, 2001, President Bush announced he would reject the Clinton Administration's guidelines and only allow federal dollars for research on approximately 60 existing embryonic stem cell lines already created in privately funded laboratories. The president outlined four conditions for the use of existing cell lines:



- The embryos were destroyed and the cell lines were created before the August 9 speech

- The embryos were among the "excess" frozen embryos stored in fertility clinics created through in vitro fertilization for reproductive purposes

- The parents gave their consent for the embryo to be destroyed

- The parents were not offered any financial incentive in return for donating the embryo

There is debate over whether or not the Bush policy violates the "Dickey Amendment" prohibiting the use of federal funds for embryonic stem cell research. Ethical questions are also raised by the use of federal tax dollars for research on existing stem cell lines that required the destruction of human embryos.

http://www.family.org/cforum/fosi/bioethic...qs/a0027980.cfm

Bush is allowing stem cell research. He's put a hiatus on propagating new lines of stem cells, but let me tell you as a chemotherapy research chemist, I grew cancer cell lines that came from patients who died in the '70's. The 60 lines out there are plenty.

The cell lines are cryogenically frozen and sold, and a 1mL tube can be propogated as long as you need, as much as you need, as long as you follow sterile protocol and GLPs, and don't contaminate the flasks. Not only that but from that 1 vial, if your lab has a liquid N2 cryo tank you can freeze as many of the cells you grow as you want.


For all your cell culturing needs:
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Kerry for Senator
HA HA. Smokin the ol Bol?

Nancy is definitely not for Kerry.

I think there is however a definite issue between the RNC and Nancy on this issue.

Frankly I wish that she would promise not to talk about it, and then go ahead and do.

Would certainly make for an interesting convention, and frankly the Republicans need to take a better look at the issue.

There is no reason why a middle ground cannot be found, for the betterment of all.

Stupid politics. mad.gif
Cleo
QUOTE (Kerry for Senator @ Jul 28 2004, 12:13 AM)
HA HA. Smokin the ol Bol?

Nancy is definitely not for Kerry.

I think there is however a definite issue between the RNC and Nancy on this issue.

Frankly I wish that she would promise not to talk about it, and then go ahead and do.

Would certainly make for an interesting convention, and frankly the Republicans need to take a better look at the issue.

There is no reason why a middle ground cannot be found, for the betterment of all.

Stupid politics. mad.gif

The fact of the matter is right now we are at a middle ground. Stem Cell research is allowed, is currently federally funded, albeit through the back door, and is ongoing.

Lots of research money comes from the federal funding, but trust me, private research is on going. And private pharmaceutical/research companies prefer not to deal with government sponsored research. Not only are there a ton of restrictions and red tape to get through to use the research, but the profit margin is not as great as if the active agent is developed in house.

Unfortunately finding the active agents is where the bulk of the expense lies in research and development of new pharmaceuticals. And the deep pockets of the federal government fund alot of this research.

But because these are public funds, and thus come out of my and your and their pockets, there are constituents to answer to.


The political issue is not whether or not stem cell research should be allowed, but whether or not it should be supported by federal dollars.


I don't think this is enough of an issue to make Nancy Reagan support Kerry.

What the public thinks:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politic...poll010626.html
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