CNNUSATODAYGALLUP POLL: BUSH REBOUND
Mon Mar 29 2004 16:58:41 ET

Interviews with 1,001 adult Americans, including 590 likely voters, conducted by telephone on March 26-28, 2004.

If the election were held today, 51% of likely voters would choose President Bush in a two-way race and 47% would pick John Kerry. That's a notable drop for Kerry since February, fueled in part by a drop in enthusiasm among Democrats and a barrage of GOP campaign ads that have driven Kerry's favorable ratings down significantly.

Growing numbers of Americans say that Kerry is too liberal and that they trust Bush more on sending U.S. troops to war. Most Americans also believe that Kerry would raise their taxes -- all indications that the GOP ad campaign may have had some effectLikely Voters' Choice for President

Sounds good to me!

The election will be decided on the state of the economy, as always. If the economy is in good shape, the present administration will be re-elected. If the economy tanks or the war suffers a major setback, that could spell trouble.

It is rather ironic that the democrat party has to hope for such catastrophes to have a chance to win. Who do you think Osama or Saddam would vote for if they could vote?

Lofu2

How very ironic. How very simplistic.
This election is about more than the economy.

Saddam will be tried and executed, so he doesn't care.

Osama (if he is alive) will be captured within the next few months. He also will not care. However, his life (if he is alive) will have been extended based on the folly of dropping the ball after 911 and changing the focus to Iraq. Capturing Osama will now be a very minor victory, because the terrorists have morphed into 1000 Osamas.

The name of this category is misnamed.
Bush or Bash is disrespectful to the honorable John Kerry.
His name is not Bash. It is John Kerry.
The name should be Bush vs. Kerry, or Kerry vs. #####, if you insist.

30/3/2004 - the rest of that survey.

AFP - President George W Bush is running neck-and-neck with Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry in polls released on Tuesday, with claims that Bush ignored al-Qaeda's threat only slightly hurting his popularity.

A Pew Research Centre poll shows Kerry leading Bush 47 per cent to 46 per cent ahead of the November 2 presidential election.

In a mid-March poll, Kerry led Bush 52 per cent to 43 per cent.
The poll shows 53 per cent of Americans say Bush can shield the country from future terrorist attacks, while only 29 per cent say Kerry can stop future threats.

A mid-March poll gave Bush a 57 per cent to 32 per cent edge.

According to the poll, 49 per cent of Americans have more confidence in Bush to take the right decisions in Iraq, while 37 per cent favour Kerry.

A second poll by USAToday/CNN/Gallup showed Bush leading Kerry 51 per cent to 47 per cent.

Of people polled about Iraq, 49 per cent said they preferred Bush to lead troops there, rather than Kerry, favoured by 37 per cent.

A Newsweek magazine poll released Saturday showed that voter approval of Bush's handling of terrorism dropped from 65 per cent to 57 per cent in the week since former White House counter-terrorism aide Richard Clarke criticised Bush's handling of terrorism before the September 11 attacks.

In a book published last week and in interviews, Clarke accused the Bush administration of not considering al-Qaeda an urgent enough threat.

The Gallup poll meanwhile found that 54 per cent believed the Bush administration had not done everything it could to foil the September 2001 attacks.

Some 67 per cent, however, said they did not blame the White House for failing to stop the tragedy that left around 3,000 people dead.

Americans were split, meanwhile, 49-49 per cent on whether the administration neglected the threat from al-Qaeda, preferring instead to focus on its concerns about the regime of former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

The Pew Research Centre interviewed 1,501 Americans between March 22 and March 28, while the Gallup survey polled 1,001 Americans between March 26-28.

The Ketchup King lost any respect he might have had when he scuttled out of Vietnam to join Hanoi Jane trashing honorable Vets in those shameful anti-war demonstrations.

30 years later he's still a whimp...

Excellent, huski!

it's my first post, and i'm alittle shy so i thought maybe a picture would be nice

Don't make it your last! We need all kinds of input here and your sense of humor is greatly appreciated.

Boon Mee~

I work with Vets from most of the wars, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and the later dust ups as well. Now there was quite a divide between the Vietnam vet's themselves about whether we should have gone and if we should have stayed. And the mix included ossifers and enlisted.

And even back when it was happening, I know guys that came back and were on both sides of the argument. I don't know (obviously) what their various experiences were. Some were on the line, others were probably doing supply or manning radar sites in low conflict areas.

But I can't agree that someone that opposed the war after they got out (or back) lost all credibility. Now, I know that the Hanoi Jane issue is a very hot one. I still love some of her flicks, but I detested her. Politics make strange bedfellows and it is probably one of those sad situations where someone with a valid argument and real experience opposing the war found himself on the same speaking platform with a traitor.

Now having said that, I'm not taking the position that Kerry "had" a valid argument back then. I'm just saying there were some to be made. And if someone had served over there, they had some experience to speak from.

Oh yeah, the WWII and Korea vets have all retired from where I work, but the Vietnam vets and later are still plugging away. In fact one recently promoted guy (from worker to supervisor) got to enjoy his new authority for all of two weeks before he was activated for duty in Iraq.

Jeepz

Jeepz~

100% of the Vets I work with have no doubts w/regard to whether we did or did not do the right thing in Vietnam & later conflicts. Perhaps it's the industry in which I work - Oil & Gas - and the kind of personnel it attracts that influence that point of view.

The Kerry situation smacks of gross opportunism from day one his boots were "In-Country". Within 4 months he had those three purple hearts & one silver star - that's simply incredible! As one vetran officer said in an interview "And the guy doesn't even walk with a limp"!

Kerry got over there with the single-minded purpose of duplicating what JFK did in WW2. He got those medals under suspicious circumstances & scuttled back to the states involving himself in politics straight-away.

Kerry had no valid argument back when he was performing w/Hanoi Jane. Just ripe opportunism. BTW, huski's post above is just about the best caricature I've seen yet on the Ketchup King!

Some points on poll, Kerry, and ketchup (catsup):


1. Polls have a statistic error rate of 3-4 percent, so the poll you cite is basically even.
2. Kerry has a long history of being a STRONG ENDER. Remember when Dean was the front runner for the nomination and people were ruling out Kerry? He then came on strong and surprised everybody. In a senate race in Massachusetts he was running against former Gov. Weld who was the favorite. Kerry blew Weld away in a debate, and sped ahead near the end of the campaign. Crowing about polls is completely absurd at this point. Kerry will shine against Bush in the debates, and he is likely to pick a veep who is way superior to dour Cheney.
3. Ketchup is good for you. Eat your ketchup. Vote for Kerry.
4. However, to win, Kerry is going to have to do a better job of defining himself in a positive light, as opposed to only attacking Bush. I think Kerry can do this.

REMEMBER: Eat your Ketchup and Vote for the Ketchup King!
Weird Benefit of Eating Ketchup

A tomato a day keeps the cardiologist away. Ketchup and other processed tomato products can help prevent heart disease and skin cancer thanks to the magic ingredient lycopene.

Researchers from the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston conducted a five-year study of 28,000 women and concluded that eating something with tomatoes in it every day may lower your risk for heart disease by up to 50 percent, reports MSNBC. Yes, ketchup on your french fries counts!

Lycopene is what gives certain vegetables and fruits their red color. While tomatoes have more lycopene than any other food, other sources include watermelon, papaya, pink grapefruit, and guava.

People whose diets are rich in this potent antioxidant also have a lower risk for a variety of cancers, especially cancers of the prostate, cervix, skin, bladder, breast, lung, and digestive tract. Eating a lot of lycopene-rich foods also might help protect skin from sun damage, notes MSNBC.

Doctors aren't sure how much lycopene we need to protect our hearts, but it seems that eating seven to 10 servings of lycopene-rich foods each week is best. The older we get, the more we need. Lycopene is best absorbed into our blood when the food is cooked or processed, rather than raw. Why? The heat helps break down the cell walls, which releases the lycopene and makes it easier for the body to absorb.

That means you should choose tomato paste, tomato sauce, canned tomatoes, and even ketchup over fresh, raw tomatoes. Eat up! There is no evidence that lycopene is harmful at any dose.

Taiquila~

He's defining himself all right - by being on the wrong side of the terrorism issue for starters. And, I'm not crowing about the poll figures so much as I'm getting a lick or two in while I've got the chance. Figure this race will see/saw up to August or so when the American public will have seen Kerry step on his dick so many times even Jane Fonda will vote for George!

Are you saying Kerry is so well endowed that he is stepping on his dick all the time? Add to the fact that he is considerably TALLER than Bush, the fix is in. The longer/taller man always wins in America.

Taiquila~

No but he sure is uglier than GWB

BTW... ran into some interesting commentary I'll pass your way:

"Bush’s ratings will oscillate up and down, depending on the events of his presidency. But when a challenger’s negatives rise, the increase is forever. "

"Lacking the control over events that an incumbent has, the challenger loses votes permanently as his negatives rise. So far, the negatives are still below 50 percent, but by the end of spring they could be high enough to swamp the Kerry campaign."

"For all of his vaunted determination to avoid the mistakes of Mike Dukakis, John Kerry is making the same errors all over again. He is not answering Bush’s attacks.
Bush’s ads hit Kerry for advocating a 50-cent hike in the gas tax. No answer."

"The president’s negative commercials criticized Kerry for subordinating the defense of the United States to the decisions of the United Nations. No response from Kerry’s ads."

"And when the incumbent told a frightened nation that Kerry wanted to weaken the homeland security protections of the USA Patriot Act, the Massachusetts Democrat was again silent."

"The only attack Kerry has answered is the charge that he plans to increase taxes by $900 billion in his first 100 days. His answer is to deny the attack and to reaffirm his backing for a “middle class” tax cut. But voters understand how inelastic the definition of middle class can be and the Kerry answer is not likely to be decisive"


Above quoted from Dick Morris's column dated 3/31/04. If your remember the name "Dick Morris" - he was the man who got BJ Bill elected in '90. A very astute political operative and commentator.

huski~

Once again, outstanding!

The other news on the polls is that Kerry has not weakened in what are considered battle states. Wouldn't it be lovely retribution this time for Bush to win the popular vote, and Kerry to win the election by electoral votes. Ha!

That would be poetic justice...

Honorable, madam please, this man is a lying rat and a traitor. I have never seen a more humble politician than the honorable George W. Bush. This is because the Christian religion is big on being humble. Bush is also a real Christain, not a fake. If you are for the murder of innocent babies, you don't deserve to call your a Christian. That socialist honorable, you're going to make me throw up.

Long live King Juan Carlos I
-Winston

Innocent, sheltered boy.
The US is a SECULAR NATION.
NOT a Christian nation.
It is a country based on the CONSTITUTION, NOT THE BIBLE.
You are scary!

Hate to burst your secular do whatever feels good bubble, we are a Christian nation! Our founding fathers were all devout Christians, our laws were based upon the Ten Commandments, I could go on. You think I'm scary? Hmmmmm. Worshiping the state, targeting Christianity because it promotes individualism and responsibility for one's own actions, I find THESE scary.

Long live King Juan Carlos I
-Winston

I am VERY HAPPY to report the latest NEWSWEEK POLL.

The Honorable John F. Kerry 50 percent (war hero, patriot, great statesman)

The Miserable President Select George AWOL Bush 43 percent (draft dodger, failed businessman, great divider)

A few more weeks like this and Bush will be lucky to win Texas.

Where do I began? There are a million different Bush vs. Kerry polls out there that say a million different things. Neewsweek!? Oh God help you. Liberal bastards, another news flash, polls tend to swing the way the poll taker wants them to, it's no wonder that nasty magizine says that. LOL, I bet they sought out homosexuals and ex-convicts. War Hero=traitor, lying about your fellow soilders who would've given their lives for him is a no-no. Patroit!? Is anybody else hearing this!? He voted how many times to
1.cut funding for our troops
2.stop production of weapons needed to combat terrorism
He has been praised by Iran's radical theocratic governemnt. Let's not forget the endorsement by King Jong IL. I think those say something! I also doubt a "failed"businessman could have given us the fastest growing economy in 20 years good sir. Americans are starting to see Kerry for what he is. A tax-hiking, U.N. coddiling weakling. Bush by a landslide electorally, 5% on up in popular everybody! Oh and thanks sir, you've reminded me of what I'm fighting to prevent.

Long live King Juan Carlos I
-Winston

Miss Carla,

No need to feel guilty. Wanking, verbal and otherwise, is quite normal at your age.

We'll you're running, guess this is done with. What's wrong? Real facts too hard to handle my radical freind? If you're a liberal at 20, then you don't have a heart. If you're a liberal at 30, the YOU DON'T HAVE A BRAIN. I've finally had it proven to me!

Long live King Juan Carlos I
-Winston

You got your quote wrong.
The quote goes "If you are a CONSERVATIVE at 20, you don't have a heart."

Thats alright. That quote is stupid anyway.
My politics are the same, except that I am economically more conservative than as a young man, which is why TAX HIKES for the RICH are obviously needed to pay our national expenses.

John F. Kerry! We might see them in his ads soon endorsing him, LOL.

No, I believe I got it right, but you're forgiven. I think that's a fine quote also. Ah yes, class warfare, one of the only pathetic things the DeMAORATS are still trying to divide America with.

Long live King Juan Carlos I
-Winston

No, you got the quote wrong.
Open a friggen book other than the BIBLE and the Carl Rove Yugen Republinazi Handbook.

Class warfare? Make me laugh.
You know what Warren Buffett (one of the richest capitalists in the world) said about that?

To roughly paraphrase: "Bush is doing the CLASS WARFARE, and my class, THE SUPER RICH, are winning the war in spades!" This man, along with Bill Gates, are supporting TAX INCREASES for the rich. They don't feel they are asked to pay enough.

Callow boy, don't you think the super rich, who enjoy the fruits of America the most, should pay some more in a time of national crisis?

You can call me old man all you like. I could care less. If you make it to 47, you will know that 47 isn't old. Not that old is bad.

Hmmmmm, nope, still think I got it right. I have read many other books other than the Bible. Ah ha! The Nazi insults have arrived! Splendid! Like to see you prove that point. Old man, don't talk about the GOP being Nazi's until your party recovers itself from the radical letf. By the way, even real democrats can see this (Zell Miller, Joe Liberman, Miller especially) As for taxes, I feel that making the rich pay so much more than the rest of us is a form of discrimination, you don't think so? I'd also like to see proof that Gates said that. Bush may unintentionally be doing class warfare, but as I said, it pails in comparisson to what deMAORATS try to pull. If you were rich, you wouldn't have a problem paying very high taxes?

Long live King Juan Carlos I
-Winston

The democrats you mentioned aren't real democrats. You only like them because they talk like republicans. Lieberman was soundly rejected in the primaries because of that.

The left is the LOYAL BASE for the democrat party. No apologies. The party has to also attract moderate and independent voters to win elections. Simple politics. Get used to it. Most every democrat society has a left and a right.

No, raising taxes for the rich is known as TAX POLICY. If you look at the tax code, you could more accurately say that it is the poor that are being discriminated against.

Personally, if I was making over 200K per year, I would have no problem paying more taxes. I wouldn't be happy at Scandanavian levels. So there is a middle ground.

Here are some quotes for you, Mr. Skeptical:

Bill Gates:

"I don't think you'll find anybody who has paid more taxes than I have," Bill Gates recently said. "You know I'm glad to pay more. My dad's out lobbying that I pay more. I do agree with him, although I haven't chosen to be active on the issue like my dad has."

Warren Buffett:

..."Tax breaks for corporations -- and their investors, particularly large ones -- were a major part of the administration's 2002 and 2003 initiatives," Buffett said. "If class warfare is being waged in America, my class is clearly winning."

...Last May, Buffett wrote a Washington Post opinion article criticizing a key element of Bush's tax package -- a cut in tax rates on corporate dividends. Buffett urged that any tax cuts should go to lower-income people or others "who both need and will spend the money gained."

Winston Churchill's quote: "If you are a Conservative at 20 you don't have a heart. If you're a Liberal at 40, you don't have a head"

By that yardstick, there's some pretty old liberals w/bad heads around here...

No, THEY are real demoracts, like FDR and Truman, the last good dem President. They would actually face terrorists rather than appease them. They remember what the democratic party used to be like, before it was hijacked by commumists in the early 70's. Liberman's "sound" rejection as you call it only proves how far left the party has gone. I'm not totally against taxing the rich a little more, I'm against what Kerry plans to do, which looks like tax the absoulute hell out of them. Also, Bush's tax cuts have revived this economy, the evidence of this is everywhere. The trickle down approach has worked wonders.

Long live King Juan Carlos I
-Winston

Amazing what Botox can do for you!

LOL, Boon you revived this thread just to post that?

Wanted to let the Lurch Lovers on this Forum have another look at their "man"!

Well, he does walk, talk, sound, and act like the undead and all....