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Thaiquila
http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/oldtricks.php

Then play the media.
It features war hero John McCain scolding a humiliated bush, and referring to Senator Kerry as a war hero.

While you are there, why not sign the petition?
John L
Let me see here. The very first thing you come upon when you follow the link is this:

Excuse me, but did not JFK, the lesser, make his military service AND his actions after returning home, an issue? And is GWB really smearing Kerry? Has he even mentioned the subjec? Am I missing a few weeks in my life?

Please correct me if I am wrong TQ. Obviously, one of us is either an intellectual idiot, or intellectually dishonest. cool.gif rolleyes.gif
Huey_P
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Excuse me, but did not JFK, the lesser, make his military service AND his actions after returning home, an issue?


no, he didn't.

GEORGE BUSH made this campaign, and the past 3 years of American history, ALL ABOUT war and ALL ABOUT his "leadership during times of change" as a "wartime president", and has made patriotism and service to this country during times of war a central issue..

if John Kerry's service and heroism in VietNam isn't relevent to someone's leadership and service during times of crisis and times of war, then i dont know what is.

if George Bush's "service" (if we could call it that) to this country as Commander in Chief during "wartime" is relevent, then John Kerry's service as Lieutenant during wartime is relevent as well.


u CANNOT say this President wasn't the one who made this campaign about war.
Huey_P
ps- that new Kerry ad should be played EVERYWHERE.

VERY effective.


after what they did to John McCain.. Max Clelan.. and now John Kerry.. George Bush and the neo-cons in Washington are NO FRIENDS to VETERANS!
John L
As usual, using a sliding scale there is a direct correlation between the intelligence of the arguement on one hand, and the ability of out shout the opposition on the other.
And we certainly know where you stand Huey Louie. wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
Huey_P
once again, big bold letters are not "shouting"..

they are merely there for emphasis.

unless of course u feel "shouted at" when u read a headline in a newspaper rolleyes.gif




so how about instead of attacking me or my typing styke, why dont u respond to any of the numerous points made in my post?
Boon Mee
Funny...the SwiftVets are not shouting but their message is getting through. Your man is a sham. A total loser... tongue.gif
jaybee
QUOTE (Huey_P @ Aug 22 2004, 12:50 AM)
if George Bush's "service" (if we could call it that) to this country as Commander in Chief during "wartime" is relevent, then John Kerry's service as Lieutenant during wartime is relevent as well.

Well, do you think your candidate might try to at least get with the times and talk about his wartime behavior in THIS era? No, I imagine not. He skipped it entirely during his boring extra long Lincoln-like speech at the DNC.....but then what could he say? ...."I voted to let Bush go to war, but then I voted not to support the troops with what they needed to fight it. ...and being as how this war involved terrorism against the US, I also chose to skip lots of those discussions too...but it's ok....I was running for elpresidento....trust me to do the right thing." Ummhmmm.
Cleo
QUOTE (Huey_P @ Aug 22 2004, 12:50 AM)
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Excuse me, but did not JFK, the lesser, make his military service AND his actions after returning home, an issue?


no, he didn't.

GEORGE BUSH made this campaign, and the past 3 years of American history, ALL ABOUT war and ALL ABOUT his "leadership during times of change" as a "wartime president", and has made patriotism and service to this country during times of war a central issue..

if John Kerry's service and heroism in VietNam isn't relevent to someone's leadership and service during times of crisis and times of war, then i dont know what is.

if George Bush's "service" (if we could call it that) to this country as Commander in Chief during "wartime" is relevent, then John Kerry's service as Lieutenant during wartime is relevent as well.


u CANNOT say this President wasn't the one who made this campaign about war.


Wrong Huey.....

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Kerry's campaign scripted the convention, which ended three weeks ago, to establish him as a battle-tested veteran ready to assume command in an era of terrorism. Polls after the convention indicated he had made considerable progress toward that goal



http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040820/D84J6PEO0.html


Nobody ever said Bush's military service was relevant to his being President, as we were not at war when he took office. It wasn't even relevant when we went to war. Kerry's campaign brought up his Vietnam War record to try to prove that he is better equipped to deal with Iraq than Bush is. I'm not buying it, but ok if you are.
ft.niagara
QUOTE (Huey_P @ Aug 22 2004, 12:50 AM)
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Excuse me, but did not JFK, the lesser, make his military service AND his actions after returning home, an issue?


no, he didn't.

GEORGE BUSH made this campaign, and the past 3 years of American history, ALL ABOUT war and ALL ABOUT his "leadership during times of change" as a "wartime president", and has made patriotism and service to this country during times of war a central issue..

if John Kerry's service and heroism in VietNam isn't relevent to someone's leadership and service during times of crisis and times of war, then i dont know what is.

if George Bush's "service" (if we could call it that) to this country as Commander in Chief during "wartime" is relevent, then John Kerry's service as Lieutenant during wartime is relevent as well.


u CANNOT say this President wasn't the one who made this campaign about war.

I don't care who made this election about service during war time an issue. The important thing is it is and as you suggest, it should be. In my opinion, Bush has piloted this country splendidly following 911 as Commander and Chief. As far as Kerry, he claimed purple hearts for small injuries, left his crew in midtour, and then went home and smeared his band of brothers with a broad brush.

Kerry's actions as Senator is even stranger. He votes for things, but then votes not to fund them. He authored little legislation. His attendance record sucks, even on the intelligence committee of which he is a member.

Besides that he is a liar about many things including his time in Cambodia, and on issues relating to present day. Liar, liar, liar. Get used to it, because if he is elected, that is what you libs are going to hear, and it will be true.
ingognito
QUOTE (Boon Mee @ Aug 22 2004, 01:36 AM)
Funny...the SwiftVets are not shouting but their message is getting through. Your man is a sham. A total loser... tongue.gif

oh really laugh.gif , read a few threads and then make another comment.
bob
Even Mc Cain blasted Kerry for his intemperant and unsubstanciated statements before congress in 1971. What he did then caused veterans and POW's significant harm and in some cases death. John F. Kerry is not the veterans friend. Wait until the information regarding his meetings with the north vietnamese come to light.
Unfit for command is just putting it midly. John Kerry is a criminal and should be treated as such. Watch and weep as his mis-candidacy dissolves before your eyes. wink.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif cool.gif
Huey_P
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What he did then caused veterans and POW's significant harm and in some cases death.


proof, please.
jaybee
A huge Big Deal to Kerry's military service no matter what! He was a Junior Grade Lt, and Officer in training....I don't think that qualifies him as 'knowing' squat about military things....we have chiefs of Staff of the various branches of the military to rely on as well as Generals, Admirals etc.....so our president does not have to have military or war experience to do his job....what he does have to have is the sense to let those who know what's best do what's best within the military....and John Kerry questioned his superiors constantly(by his own admission) back in Nam days, after Nam days and still is recklessly doing it in time of war now...I have to believe that he will question our military leaders pointlessly, micromanage them to no good end, and override thier expertise for fun if he becomes president. I, for one, do not think he has proper goals for our country...he has the same one he's always had...self-importance! He's also a major trickster and the world already sees us as tricksters ...he will only cement that notion and cause us more trouble globally than we can ever imagine.

The Democrats chose poorly! And by now, they have to know it.
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