So it seems that last year while speaking at a gathering for Martin Luther King Jr, Kerry said he remembered well the day (fill in flamboyant emotional words) MLK Jr was shot....Kerry was once again in Vietnam - that horrible war,or some remark like that to describe the war.....trouble is....King was shot on April 4, 68 and Kerry didn't report for duty to Nam until November 17, 68.

Ha Ha Ha!!!! But not for president!

That's a silly question jaybee. Pathological: 1) He lies when he doesn't need to. 2) He lies on issues which are so easily doccumented as false.

I don't think this is anything malicious. I would say he suffers from Al Goreitis. Neither of which have a foudation in reality, and are quick to spin a yarn if it seems (at least at the time) politicly advantageous.

Now Bill was a true professional.

There's a difference?

Of course, there's a difference!! Clinton is a True Sociopath. AlGore and Kerry are not. Neither are naturals in the art of true deception as Clinton, because Clinton actually believes what he says; at the time anyway.

Go and read the characteristics at the link above, and you will notice that the overwhelming majority of the symptoms are to be found with BillyBob, but not the others.

Sociopaths believe what they say/think too. Kerry is a sociopath in my book. He also appears to exhibit traits of a Narcissist. He's also a pathological liar or devious, conscienceless instigator of hate with desires of grandeur based on superhero delusions. This man needs mental help!

The Democrats made a mistake in running Kerry, but it's too late now for them. I only hope it's not too late for the rest of the country!

No, if he was a sociopath, he would be more convincing. Kerry knows the difference between the truth and lies.

I will agree with you there. I wonder what he really thinks of his wife, since it is SHE who controls the money. Must hurt his pride, but not more than the benefits that the money can give him, I would think.

Hence, "the Poodle". The perfect rich woman's pet.

Quote Of The Day:

So this time you’ve got a candidate named John Kerry who had a good record in Vietnam, came back from the service, denounced the war, in effect, trashed the Americans who were still fighting there. Went before a Senate committee in April of 1971, threw away his ribbons or his medals or whatever and now is standing before the American people and saying you’ve got to elect me because I’m this Vietnam hero.

Bob Dole... WW2 True Combat Vet

I've been saying that Scary Kerry is a pathollogical liar for some time now.

With all honesty, I must disagree here. Kerry is no more a pathological liar than I am. The two things that he is, and I am not: (1) he is a politician, and (2) he is an oportunitist. And being the consumate oportunistic politician that he is, he frequently lies when he believes that you will not notice and if he thinks that it will further his personal career.

Sorry John, he's a patho or else he's 3 years old! LOL


Pathological Liars

There is a reason why you are asked in court to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. It is because most of the time that is not what people do. Everyone lies sometime. There are many reasons to lie. Sometimes it is to not hurt someone's feelings. Sometimes a lie is for our own advantage. Some people lie in conducting business and in their personal lives. Most adults are aware of when they lie.

Young children sometimes have problems telling fantasy from reality. When a 3-year-old insists that he flew to Mars this morning, he may not be lying on purpose. He may not even be aware that it is a lie. Children with good imaginations often take longer to learn what a lie really is. It is important to work with children to teach them about fantasy and reality, instead of punishing them for these kinds of beliefs.

A pathological liar believes in the lies, at least at the time that she or he is talking. Their stories tend to be very dramatic. They often portray the person as being smarter, braver, more attractive, or more interesting than she or he really is. Sometimes people begin to catch onto pathological liars because of obvious flaws in the stories. A fairly young man will describe his heroics in the Vietnam war. A homely woman will talk about all the men who fell instantly in love with her. Sometimes the flaws may be more subtle and it may take a knowledgeable person to find them. Often it happens that a pathological liar will be caught out at a party by someone who really was a pilot, really lived in Africa, or really was a fashion model.

Suspect a pathological liar if:

the stories seem too dramatic or unrealistic

the lies seem to serve no purpose except to impress people or

the lies can easily be shown up

Sometimes pathological lying appears to be related to physical causes, such as problems in the brain. Other times they appear to be related to low self-esteem. In any case, good diagnosis and treatment is needed. Contact your healthcare provider for assistance and referrals if needed.

Well then he must be 3 years old. Come on Jaybee, just because Kooks such as Thaiquila, and flameouts like Huey constantly feel the need to overstate EVERY thing that they have to say about the opposition, does not mean that you, GOP, or others should return the favour, simply because they do it.

The goal here should be honest apraisement, logical arguement in order to win one's point. To accuse Kerry of being a pathological lier is patently false. Of course he does lie, but that does not make him pathological.

And here is why Thaiquila, Huey, and unfortunately GOP, are not taken as serious as they would like. They, you, and I would do far better is we simply did not stretch the truth.

Now, of course, Thaiquila will conveniently miss this post as he has done so many times in the past in order to paint me as a blatant partisan. But that is his problem, with his own reasoning ability.

OK Daddy John, here's a fact for you....the news is reporting that Al Qaeda are targeting Veteran's Hospitals.

Here's another fact for you....pathological liars get other people in trouble if people don't know they are sick pathological liars and not just liars in general, the latter case being where a person has good sense enough not to involve others in their lies to where others might get hurt. Kerry lies about our veterans happily engaging in vile atrocious acts. He involved the lives of others to a severe detriment.

And now suddenly we have Veteran's Hospitals being lined up to be attacked. I see a link. I may be wrong, but it's possible and for the smallest possibility alone I for one, will attribute the interest in VA Hospitals to Kerry's accusations of long ago that give Al Qaeda the justification to take aim at veteran hospitals.

I'm not trying to push an issue of pyschological truth...i'm not a doctor...but it is still important I think to distinguish between lying, and sickness...and Kerry 'appears' to be a sick man, thus making him even more dangerous once in control of all our country's secrets, from which he...if he is a PL...will make more self serving lies from and hurt god knows what because he can't help it. It's just another argument for not voting for Kerry. That's the only reason I brought it up.

Are you partonizing me, fair lady(am I correct about the sex?)?

But non pathological liars can accomplish the same thing. And they tell lies because they think that they can get away with it, they also do so knowing that there is only a half-truth present at best. That element of truth allows them to squirm out of the possible charge. Pathological liars do not care whether or not therer is a half truth present. Bill Clinton is the best modern example here. If is was about to be caught, he would just change the subject swith another pathological lie.

What are we arguing here for?! We are both on the same side of the political isle. The only difference here is that you most likely are a Republican and I am an Independant Classical Liberal.

Let's kiss and make up. If I am wrong about your sex, lets shake hands and part friends.

This is what I dislike about partisan party politics. One's party steed tends to be looked at as more honest/hard working/smarter than the other party's race horse. It tends to make one less analytical.

John, for the record, I'm not a partisan of any sort. I take each election one by one, however thus far I've voted Republican! It used to be that deciding between Dem or Rep was harder than it has become as I happen to think that the Democrat Party has changed drastically, and that's not a think I want to see being as how I like a choice. If there's one good thing that can come from Kerry running for president it's that it's given me the oppotunity to see that not all Democrats have changed as drastically as the party as a whole has. Some who are speaking out recently obviously don't want to be aligned with the Extreme Liberals of which Kerry is one. So there is hope that in the future elections may offer me a choice.

Also, no need to make up on my end. I had no idea there was a fight going on. I don't consider debate arguing; I consider it stimulating....I'm never opposed to learning something....and now I think I will say perhaps Kerry is not a PL at all...leaving in that he most definitely is a liar....your point about the one element of truth brought on the light! .....an unnerving quality of a Narcissist! LOL

PATHO PATHO PATHO