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Communist Vietnamese honor John Kerry, the war protestor, as a hero in their victory over the United States in the Vietnam War -- Part II.
On Memorial Day, May 31, 2004, Vietnam Vets for the Truth broke an extraordinary story about a photograph hanging in the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). The photograph, displayed in a room dedicated to foreign activists who contributed to the Communist victory over America in the Vietnam War, shows Senator John Kerry being greeted by Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam. Jeffrey M. Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth acquired the photograph during the Memorial Day weekend in response to a general request for photographs and records detailing Kerry's activities on behalf of the enemy.

Vietnam Vets for the Truth has now further documented the photograph. Photographer Bill Lupetti returned to the War Remnants Museum in Saigon on June 2 at the request of Dr. Jerome Corsi, co-author of the original article, and photographed a current edition of the "Viet Nam News" next to the display honoring John Kerry.


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Photograph of John Kerry meeting with Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, in Vietnam. Photo displayed in the War Remnants Museum (formerly the "War Crimes Museum") in Saigon. The June 2, 2004, edition of "Viet Nam News" is held beside the Kerry photograph to confirm the date the photo was taken. English-language placard below photograph reads: "Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the Vietnam Communist Party met with Congressmen and Veterans Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18, 1993)."
Dr. Corsi asked Mr. Lupetti to more thoroughly document the layout and scope of the museum, particularly the section featuring those foreign anti-war activists whom the Vietnamese communists wished to honor. He took a number of additional photos at the War Remnants Museum and elsewhere, several of which are presented below.

Dr. Corsi also contacted Dan Tran of the Vietnam Human Rights Project, who asked associates in Saigon to go into the museum to make sure the photograph of John Kerry was actually there. Mr. Tran's contacts confirmed that the photograph is still in the museum.


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Photograph of John Kerry meeting with Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam. Photo is displayed in the War Remnants Museum (formerly the "War Crimes Museum") in Saigon.
Dan Tran also asked his Vietnamese associates to get a more precise wording of the placards under the photo. Below are the English and French captions:

"Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the Vietnam Communist Party met with Congressmen and Veterans Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18, 1993)"

"Camarade Do Muoi -- Secrétaire General du Parti Communiste du Vietnam -- recevait une délégation de Sénateurs et Anciens Vétérans du Vietnam le 18 Juillet 1993"

Bill Lupetti, who had served as a Navy corpsman working with Swift Boat sailors in An Thoi, was in Vietnam and happened upon the Kerry photo display while visiting the War Remnants Museum. Mr. Lupetti posted the photo to an album maintained on MyFamily.com by Swift Boat veteran Jim Deal that contains hundreds of Vietnam War era photos posted by participating Swift Boat veterans. One of those veterans, Bob Shirley, forwarded the Kerry photo to Jeff Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth in response to an Internet request for photographs documenting John Kerry's activities as a Naval officer and as an antiwar protestor.


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Several members of the mainstream media have questioned the authenticity of the photograph on the grounds that they have no proof that Senator Kerry was in Vietnam during July 15-18, 1993.

According to a AP newswire report carried in The Chronicle-Telegram of Elyria, Ohio, on July 17, 1993, a US delegation headed by US Deputy Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Hershel Gober, was in Vietnam on a mission sent by President Clinton, to deliver to the Vietnamese microfilm of some 3 million captured Vietnam War documents that pertained to finding American POWs and MIAs. The newspaper states that the mission was scheduled to meet with Communist Party General Secretary Do Muoi.

The reports do not confirm that Senator Kerry was part of the US delegation; however, in his press release of July 2, 1993 announcing the formation of the delegation, President Clinton mentioned John Kerry and noted that "Members of Congress and representatives of veterans groups have traveled to Vietnam to press for the goal" of resolving the fate of American service personnel who did not return from Vietnam. There is ample documentation that John Kerry has met with General Secretary Do Muoi. The Far Eastern Economical Review of February 11, 1999 notes that Senator Kerry met with Do Muoi when he visited Hanoi in December 1998. In a speech given on the Senate Floor on April 29, 1992 Senator Kerry discussed in detail a meeting he had recently had with Do Muoi in Vietnam to discuss the fate of American POWs and MIAs. A photo widely circulated on the Internet shows John Kerry formally posed with Do Muoi. The two men are seated with a statue of Ho Chi Minh in the background.

The existence of photographs showing Senator Kerry meeting with General Secretary Do Muoi is not in question. In the course of pursuing the POW and MIA issue, it is reasonable that Senator Kerry would seek to meet with the communist leaders of Vietnam. The critical issue is that the Vietnamese communists have chosen to honor Senator Kerry in their War Crimes Museum for his assistance in helping them achieve victory over the United States. The sign outside the entrance to the room where Kerry's photo is displayed reads: "The World Supports Vietnam in its Resistance." Also exhibited inside the room are protest banners and emblems from various nations and photographs of international leaders who supported North Vietnam's cause.


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Mr. Lupetti also photographed a picture honoring Jane Fonda, who stands next to Nguyen Thi Dinh, deputy commander of the Viet Cong.


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Photograph of Nguyen Thi Dinh and Jane Fonda displayed in the Women's Museum, Saigon, May 28, 2004.

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The photographs shown below accurately reflect the appearance and content of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon as of June 2, 2004, and document the context of the photo placed to honor the service John Kerry rendered to the Vietnamese communists with his anti-war protest activities. Bill Lupetti has reported that as he photographed exhibits in the Museum he began to attract police attention. He and the Vietnamese who were with him were reluctant to return to the Museum to take additional photographs after June 2.


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Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Poster showing Italian anti-war support reads in Italian: "Vietnam and Our Conscience."

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Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Posters showing German anti-war support.

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Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. United States anti-war posters.

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Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Anti-war protest poster from India.

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Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Wall of international anti-war protest materials. The glass covering the Kerry / Do Muoi photograph reflects this display, which is the wall on the opposite side of the room.

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Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Corner view which overlaps the wall photo in the previous photograph, diagonally across from the Kerry / Do Muoi photo.

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Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Detail of left wall on corner in Photo #6 above, diagonally across from the Kerry / Do Muoi photo. Black and white photo at left shows war protestor David Miller publicly burning his draft call-up notice in 1965, an action which inspired other similar protests in the American anti-war movement.

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Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Anti-war protest banner in Spanish. Banner is in the display case before the photographs shown in Photo #5 above.

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Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Anti-War protest banner, Al-Fatah. Banner is in the display case before the photographs shown in Photo #5 above.

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Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon. June 2, 2004. Photo of Vietnamese Communist General Giap. This photo is to the left of the Kerry / Do Muoi photograph. In the top photo in this article, this photo is obscured by the Viet Nam News paper held up to document the date.

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Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Direction sign outside museum.

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No photograph in this article has been altered in any way. All photos are reproduced here exactly as they were taken by Bill Lupetti in Saigon on May 28 and June 2, 2004, and posted to the Swift Boat Album at MyFamily.com.

John Kerry helped North Vietnam and the Vietcong win their war against America. More than 30 years later, the Vietnamese communists still recognize his contribution to their victory.


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Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D.
jcorsi@wintersoldier.com
Jeffrey M. Epstein
Vietnam Vets for the Truth
Jepstein02@snet.net



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It's disgusting! And equally disgusting is how the media has actually known about this for some time...and won't touch it! They would if it were Bush doing it!

I'd like to say I think Kerry is a covert commie, but I think he's too stupid....he is a pawn/tool of theirs though.

Thanks for posting that!

I dissagree jaybee, he is a dedicated commi in my opinion. and that is the proof that he is stupid. That part you definately had right.

Ahhhhhhh, Ali, you have got to stop exagerating things. It only makes you look less than legitimate. Kerry is not, nor never has been a communist. Collectivist, sure. Opportunist, definately. Unethical, absolutely. So why do you have to use words that simply are not true nor carry any serious weight?

You know, we accuse TQ and others of being too emotional, abusive, and some of us turn right around and to the very same thing. Now if you can prove that he is anything more than the Social Democrat/Friendly Fascist that he really is, I for one would love to know.

Ali, I'm not singling you out to give you a hard time, but accuracy is very important here.

John, we just saw a picture of Lurch shaking hands with the Chairman of Vietnams Communist Party. In 71 he assisted the Commi's in defeating Democracy in Indochina. The testimony he gave before the Senate caused our POWs in Nam to be tortured to admit the same thing he said freely.

At this point, based on his actions, i have the right to assume he is a dedicated Communist, and as a candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America it is on him to prove he isn't a Communist. Given his multitude of votes to raise taxes on the American People and his 80 or so votes to cut back on National Defense, along with everything else i've pointed to how can you claim dogmatically that he isn't a full blooded RED ? It's not like we can believe anything he say's

Let me point out the fallacy of your assumptions. In the early 70s, Nixon went to China and shook the hand of Mao. Using your criteria, Nixon was therefore a Communist. Or how about Reagan shaking the hand of Gorby'. Same thing there too?

I believe that it is incumbant upon each of us to use factual language when accusing our opponents, or they will throw it back in our faces, OR think that their own scurilous actions are justified because we do the same.

Kerry has enough baggage that it is unnecessary to inflate the truth.

The differenc with Reagan and Nixon is they didn't shake hands with these leaders in agreement with them that Communism is right. After Lurch's meeting he came back and worked against Democracy and our military.

I will admit that my comment was somewhat tongue in cheek but Socialism is just one step away from Communism and we know he is an avowed Socialist. And truthfully speaking even if we hold to the laws of absolute accuracy and fairness, the libs will still compare Bush to Hitler and call him a Fascist. In other words no matter how accurate we are, they will still be scurilous in their rhetoric.

Because we are dealing with political adversaries who lie and exagerate to win, i have no compunction about throwing the same exagerated mud back at them.

Remember this john, if anything, calling lurch a commi only makes him more attractive to the likes of Thai, huey, and Bitterfly, it has no bearing on converting them to the right way of thinking about the issues or the Candidates.

We can argue about this all day, and I can see that you are simply chomping at the bit. So, if you think that it will help to sway the above mentioned names you mention, go ahead and beat your head against the wall. You will find that it feels GREAT when you stop.

But you forget that it is not those individuals with whom you are supposed to be directing your agruement. It is to the readers who do not post, but lurk here, and believe me they are here.

Oh, He11, GO For IT! Distort everything while you are at it! That will get you all the respect and stature you could ever want. I'm tired of arguing here.

The number of reasoning individuals here is shrinking, and quite frankly, I am getting fed up with the whole thing!

You guys have at it. Sling all the Sheite you can. I'm out of here.

this post is sheer stupidity.

slap yourself.



for someone that had a segregationinst and a son of a Nazi speak at the Republican convention, u have the nerve to talk about freedom and democracy?


put a sock in it Ali Babbles.

Your right huey, your post is stupid. You've contributed nothing to this relavent THREAD i've posted for it's informative value. Condemn Arnold if you like but please point out the Segragationist because i don't know who you are refering to.

Why don't you comment on Zell Miller and Ron Silver, 2 Loyal Democrats and Liberals with enough love for this Country to vote for a dedicated leader rather than blindly follow the party line and vote in a coward and a liar. And it's ALI BABBA, Babble is what you do with your Socialist diatribes.

This museum, when i visited it 10 or 11 years ago, was known as " the American War Crimes Museum" and there wasn't a single picture of John Kerry as there wasn't a single picture of Ron Kovich (spelling ?) or of any vet who dared opposing the war.
But there were a few American medals that had been sent by some vets who were ashamed of what they had done to this country.
I don't care much about Kerry but i think that, in this case, he's a victim of the Vietnamese propaganda.

British, German, Austrian and French neo-fascists pin pictures of Bush up on their bedroom's walls, next to their beloved Adolph.

adjan, i am reading UNFIT FOR COMMAND right now, i just got it today. By just the third chapter kerry is even more dispicable a human being than even i thought possible. Check it out, you won't be sorry.

Polititophile,

I'm currently living in Northern Thailand where it's not that easy to find new books.
Please could you post a few excerpts.

It is very interesting that you ask. I was thinking of posting parts of it, and because you asked, i will start a thread where i can post excerpts daily. I will keep it in the US elections section so keep a look out.