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John L
Today's Dick Morris piece, Nobody Likes Him, pretty much says it all. And again, it comes back to the old saying that, "to get elected, you have to have people willing to vote 'for' you, not vote 'against' the opponent.
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September 15, 2004 -- JOHN Kerry is in deeper trouble than the polls indicate. While the Fox News survey taken last week after the Republican convention shows Bush with a small lead over Kerry, the internal data indicates big shifts against the Democrat.

For example, Kerry is now seen unfavorably by a record 44 percent of the voters (his personal worst), giving him a slightly higher unfavorable ratio than Bush — whom 43 percent dislike. (Bush's edge comes from the fact that he gets 51 percent to rate him favorably, while Kerry has only a 46 percent favorable rating.)

But worse, the poll shows that Kerry must face a basic problem: His own voters don't like him very much.

The Fox News poll asked Kerry supporters if their vote for the Democrat could best be described as motivated by support for Kerry (41 percent) or by opposition to Bush (51 percent). By contrast, Bush voters emphatically say, by 82-13, that they are voting for the president rather than against the challenger.

This puts Kerry in a tough position in the coming debates. He has no real base of support and any attenuation of the dislike his voters feel for Bush will weaken him substantially. All Bush has to do is to persuade a few Kerry voters to stop disliking him, and he can get their votes. There is no residual affection for the Democrat to get in the way of their switching to the president.

The polls already have shown how Kerry's own voters break almost evenly on the issues, with half supporting the war in Iraq and half opposing it, and almost equal numbers saying we must stay the course as say we should bring the troops home.

So Kerry can't use issues to hold his own in the debates: Whatever he says will antagonize some of his base. And now it's plain that he can't rely on personal popularity to hold them, since most are just voting against Bush.



If the president gives an even moderately effective presentation and comes across as even somewhat likeable, he can cut deeply into Kerry's vote.

In addition, the poll shows that there has been a shift in the issues on which voters are focused. Those who identify terrorism or homeland security as key issues has risen from 7 percent before the convention to 22 percent afterward, and issues such as taxes and gay marriage, which did not make the polls before, now draw 4 percent each who feel they are the most important issue before the nation.

Asked which is more important in their votes, national security or the nation's economy, voters split 45-38 for security — a clear Bush win.

The electorate remains sharply divided in its loyalties based on voters' perception of the most important issue. Of those who see security as key, Bush wins by 68-28, while Kerry triumphs among those who focus most on the economy by 56-19.

Underscoring Kerry's popularity problems, voters rate Bush better on a host of adjectives. Who is the stronger leader? Bush, by 51-37. Who is more honest and trustworthy? Bush, 42-37. Who will make the United States a stronger country? Bush, 46-40. Who takes strong stands and sticks with them? Bush, 56-27.

Kerry only wins "Who understands the average American better?" — and by only 43-36.

Kerry never had time to make America like him. He won the nomination before anyone really got to know him and has coasted on anti-Bush campaigning ever since. Even now, he relies on the old National Guard records of Bush to animate his campaign, as if we are about to form our judgment of how Bush would be as a commander based on 30-year- old, possibly forged records rather than on our own observation of how he has done the job. But Kerry has got to close the most fundamental gap of his candidacy: Voters don't like him very much.
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I think that Mr. Morris is correct here. As the debates will show, Kerry has little for the public to vote for, other than the fact that he is a Democrat, endorses further 'gimmie socialism', and by the way, is a Viet Nam vet in case you were unaware.

Note: For those wishing to truly undertstand how the Democrats got into the situation they are currently in, please read The Kerry Cascade. It is very informative, and tells it as it is. And since it is from Slate, it is not from one of those 'so called' Right Wing Whacko sites.
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Barring a miraculous comeback by Sen. John Edwards, Sen. John Kerry will win the Democratic presidential nomination—despite the fact that most Democratic voters know little about him and don't like him very much. A few weeks before the Iowa caucuses, Kerry's campaign seemed dead, but then he unexpectedly won Iowa, then New Hampshire, and then primary after primary. How did this happen?

One answer may be found in a series of psychology experiments conducted at Princeton University in the 1950s. Princeton social psychologist Solomon Asch showed a room of participants a series of slides displaying sets of vertical lines. Two of these lines were clearly the same length, while the others were obviously very different. The subjects were then given the seemingly trivial task of identifying which pair of lines were the same. But there was a trick: Everyone in the room except for one person had been instructed beforehand to give the same incorrect answer. The real subject of the experiment was the lone unwitting participant, and the real test was of an individual's ability to disagree with his or her peers.

Asch demonstrated a stunning effect: Faced with a decision that, in isolation, no one would ever get wrong, the unwitting subjects went against the evidence of their own eyes about one-third of the time. In psychology, Asch's result is famous, yet its implications for what we might call "social decision-making" (decisions that are influenced by the previous decisions of others) are largely unappreciated by the general public, or even researchers who study decision-making. And social decisions are everywhere. From the everyday (choosing a movie or a restaurant) to the profound (choosing a religion or a career), each one of us is influenced consciously and unconsciously by our friends, families, colleagues, and role models in ways that make the boundary between what we decide for ourselves and what others decide for us almost impossible to distinguish.

If you have not read this entire article, you are missing out on something of import.
Boon Mee
Kerry Stops By Steve's Soul Food Restaurant



Meanwhile the campaign staff was on the phone to the local yacht club for shrimp vandaloo and yakuza-dusted scallops. laugh.gif

thanks to kh
politiphile
John, with about 47 day's left before the vote my 75 % to 25 % prediction isn't looking as impossible as you thought 2 weeks ago, is it ?

P.S. where's Thai ? i hope he's all right. It's not like him to miss complete day's on line. What do you think ?
bob
QUOTE (politiphile @ Sep 15 2004, 06:10 PM)
John, with about 47 day's left before the vote my 75 % to 25 % prediction isn't looking as impossible as you thought 2 weeks ago, is it ?

P.S. where's Thai ? i hope he's all right. It's not like him to miss complete day's on line. What do you think ?

There needs to an unequivocal and resounding stomping of the two John's. A grand flushing! wink.gif
That will send the message worldwide to the terrorists:"Be afraid, be very afraid"
John L
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John, with about 47 day's left before the vote my 75 % to 25 % prediction isn't looking as impossible as you thought 2 weeks ago, is it ?-Politiphile

No, I still don't think that it will be anything like that. That has never happened. But something from 55-60% for Bush is realistic. Anyway 50% will still do it. I think that Nader will take some votes, even is he is not off the Florida ballot again. If he appeals, I believe he will be put on the ballot there eventually.

But 75%. Optimism is nice, but that is far better than optimism. If I am wrong, I will conceed to you. smile.gif
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P.S. where's Thai ? i hope he's all right. It's not like him to miss complete day's on line. What do you think ?-Politiphile

No telling. He does this ocassionally. Must be involved with someone. Wish him luck and blow him a kiss. cool.gif
politiphile
O.K. John, we will see, weee wiiiillll seeee in November. And i a can't wait.
John L
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O.K. John, we will see, weee wiiiillll seeee in November. And i a can't wait.-Politiphile

I will be the first to let you know if I am wrong.

But seriously, you must be totally aware of the many horrendous problems that I, and you as well, should have with GWB. He is spending like a drunken sailor, increasing the size of government that only Clinton could dream about, already imposed tarrifs, and is capable of doing terrible things that make an Individualist like we shudder!

If he tries any of that crap in a second administration, I am going to be on him like stink on 'you know what', and I don't want to hear any of you guy on the Right defending the indefensible.

I'm serious here. Because I have just about had enough of this Statist/Collectivist crap this country has had to endure for the past 70 years. And if you pull a Huey on me, I will turn on you in a New York Minute! ohmy.gif wink.gif
Boon Mee
THE ANTIWAR CRIMINAL

politiphile
QUOTE (John L @ Sep 16 2004, 12:47 AM)
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O.K. John, we will see, weee wiiiillll seeee in November. And i a can't wait.-Politiphile

I will be the first to let you know if I am wrong.

But seriously, you must be totally aware of the many horrendous problems that I, and you as well, should have with GWB. He is spending like a drunken sailor, increasing the size of government that only Clinton could dream about, already imposed tarrifs, and is capable of doing terrible things that make an Individualist like we shudder!

If he tries any of that crap in a second administration, I am going to be on him like stink on 'you know what', and I don't want to hear any of you guy on the Right defending the indefensible.

I'm serious here. Because I have just about had enough of this Statist/Collectivist crap this country has had to endure for the past 70 years. And if you pull a Huey on me, I will turn on you in a New York Minute! ohmy.gif wink.gif

Had it not been for 9/11 we would probably have a balanced budget by now. I agree that spending is out of control but unfortunately we can't visit a Parallel Universe with Gore as President after the same 9/11 attack. Mark my words with the tax increases he would've imposed on us to cover the needed spending to fight a war, we would be in another Great Depression. Foriegn Investers who bailed after 9/11 would not have returned by now because Homeland Security and the Patriot Act wouldn't exist because Gore would have treated the attack as a criminal act and not an act of war just like Hillbilly did.
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