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John L
This new CNN/USA Today/Gallop Poll, is clearly going where the others appear not to show. Or is this CBS thing also making a difference?

Keep in mind that Dick Morris, who is a true genius and a certified expert, has predicted this all along since the conventions. And too, adding to the fact that the Kerry campaign is truly in disarray, it is easy to believe.

However, others do not show this trend. One other thing. In seperate pollings, state by state, solid Democratic states are either in the Bush side, or neck and neck. In other words, things are volatile and haven't shaken out. But note that this poll draws from 'likely voters', which is the best indicator as to voting patterns, even though registered voters show a clear Bush lead.
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Bush clear leader in poll
By Susan Page, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — President Bush has surged to a 13-point lead over Sen. John Kerry among likely voters, a new Gallup Poll shows. The 55%-42% match-up is the first statistically significant edge either candidate has held this year. (Related item: Poll results)
Among registered voters, Bush is ahead 52%-44%.

The boost Bush received from the Republican convention has increased rather than dissipated, reshaping a race that for months has been nearly tied. Kerry is facing warnings from Democrats that his campaign is seriously off-track.

With 46 days until the election, analysts say the proposed presidential debates offer Kerry his best chance to change the race.

"It doesn't look like the new consultants and strategies of attacks are the right ones" for Kerry, says Matthew Dowd, chief strategist for the Bush campaign. Kerry in recent weeks added veterans of the Clinton White House to his team and began criticizing Bush more sharply on Iraq and other issues.

Dowd says Kerry at this point would "have to defy history" to defeat a sitting president.

"We have seen some bouncing around in the numbers," says Mike McCurry, a top Kerry adviser, "but it is our sense that the race is moving back to a much closer race."

A Pew Research Center poll released Thursday shows a tighter contest. The survey, taken Saturday through Tuesday, gives Bush a statistically insignificant lead of 47%-46% among likely voters.

The Gallup Poll was taken Monday through Wednesday.

Presidential candidates have won after trailing by similar margins. One was George W. Bush himself. In 2000, he was behind Al Gore by 10 points among registered voters in early October and then prevailed in the Electoral College, though he lost the popular vote.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan was down 8 points in the Gallup Poll in late October but won in a landslide after doing well in the only debate held with President Carter.

"Sen. Kerry is like Seabiscuit: He runs better from behind," says Donna Brazile, who was Gore's campaign manager. But she acknowledges that "backbenchers" in the Democratic Party "have begun pushing the panic button."


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ingognito
Kerry Has Erased Bush Lead - Says Latest 'Polls'

Poll Shows Bush, Kerry in Virtual Tie

Thu Sep 16, 6:22 PM ET

By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The GOP convention gave President Bush (news - web sites) a double-digit lead, but the race has settled into a virtual tie with voters still worried about the economy and Iraq (news - web sites), according to polling by the Pew Research Center.


The first of two national polls by Pew, done Sept. 8-10, reflected the president's post-convention bounce. Bush was ahead of Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites) 52-40 among registered voters and by an even wider margin, 54-39, among likely voters, a narrower group.


By the second poll, done Sept. 11-14, the Bush lead had evaporated. In that poll, Bush and Kerry were knotted at 46 percent among registered voters. Among likely voters, Bush was at 47 percent and Kerry at 46 percent.


"There is a great deal of instability and uncertainty in the electorate," said Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press. "This poll finds a lot of the positive impact Bush had in the convention remains. But Bush's vulnerabilities on Iraq and the economy continue, and these have anchored the race."


After the Republican convention and its well-orchestrated criticism of Kerry, Bush grabbed a lead ranging from 5 points to 11 points in various national polls. That lead appeared to be shrinking in some polls by late last week, and a Harris poll out Thursday showed the race even.


"This gives Kerry an opportunity to stay in the hunt," said Kohut. "Some of the negatives that Kerry accumulated during the Republican convention have worn away."


Kerry's unfavorable ratings increased after the GOP convention but dropped slightly between the two waves of the poll. Fewer voters in the second poll had an unfavorable view of the Democrat, said Kerry is too quick to change his mind, and believed the risk of terrorism would be higher if he were elected.


Bush continues to hold a commanding lead on who would do the best job of defending the country from terrorists by 58 percent to 31 percent. And he's seen by more as a strong leader.


But people are more likely to disapprove of Bush's handling of the economy and are evenly split on his handling of Iraq. Almost six in 10 said it's not clear what Bush will do about Iraq if he is re-elected.


Two-thirds thought Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) went too far when he suggested that if voters "make the wrong choice" on Election Day there is a danger "we'll get hit again" by terrorists.


Interest in the presidential debates is high with 61 percent saying it's very likely they will tune in to watch — compared with 43 percent who said that in September 2000. Three in 10 said the debates will matter in their voting decision.


By a 3-1 margin, voters said they think Bush is likely to win re-election in November.


The first poll of 970 registered voters was taken Sept. 8-10 and the second poll of 1,002 registered voters was taken Sept. 11-14. The margin of sampling error for both polls was 3.5 percentage points.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...r/campaign_poll
Butterfly
JohnL, there is nothing worth debating with you. You are a bad troll and you should be institutionalized. I am still surprised that they left out of your cell laugh.gif
jaybee
QUOTE (Butterfly @ Sep 17 2004, 07:14 AM)
JohnL, there is nothing worth debating with you. You are a bad troll and you should be institutionalized. I am still surprised that they left out of your cell laugh.gif

Ummm....left out of your cell, what? ....that's an incomplete sentence from incomplete or lost thoughts. I now understand why you support Kerry. He doesn't offer you any complete thoughts to worry about. You don't feel threatened intellectually. I think Bin Laden has a spare spot of dirt in his cave for you if you continue to get disturbed by having to face the challenges of your cognitive weakness.
Huey_P
what is there to debate?

every other recent poll contradicts this.


this is a classic example of media me-too-ism.

Gallup saw the TIME/Newsweak polls and said "ME TOO!"

next week, after seeing yesterdays IBD/TIPP and Wall Street Journal polls showing Kerry and Bush tied, they'll come back down to earth.
politiphile
QUOTE (Huey_P @ Sep 17 2004, 03:47 PM)
what is there to debate?

every other recent poll contradicts this.


this is a classic example of media me-too-ism.

Gallup saw the TIME/Newsweak polls and said "ME TOO!"

next week, after seeing yesterdays IBD/TIPP and Wall Street Journal polls showing Kerry and Bush tied, they'll come back down to earth.

Sure huey, CNN/USA Today is just going to lay down and put a poll out there that hurts their Candidate of choice. Like i said earlier, keep dreaming thats what you do best. blink.gif
Huey_P
and how do u explain the conservative Wall Street Journal/Harris poll?

are they purposely putting out a warped poll to hurt THEIR candidate of choice?


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The Harris poll, conducted by telephone Sept. 9-13, shows Sen. Kerry leading Mr. Bush 48% to 47% among likely voters nationwide.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB...Ffree%5Ffeature
politiphile
QUOTE (Huey_P @ Sep 17 2004, 04:16 PM)
and how do u explain the conservative Wall Street Journal/Harris poll?

are they purposely putting out a warped poll to hurt THEIR candidate of choice?


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The Harris poll, conducted by telephone Sept. 9-13, shows Sen. Kerry leading Mr. Bush 48% to 47% among likely voters nationwide.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB...Ffree%5Ffeature

The Harris Poll you quote was based on Adults, not likely voters as you state.
Huey_P
i didnt state anything.

that was the direct quote from their site as of last nite.

apparently they removed the poll, but that was directly from the article.
Huey_P
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The Harris poll, conducted by telephone Sept. 9-13, shows Sen. Kerry leading Mr. Bush 48% to 47% among likely voters nationwide.

http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?f...nder%20Reported



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Kerry and Bush almost equal among likely voters, as slender majority believes Bush does not deserve to be re-elected. . .  The poll shows Senator Kerry leading 48 percent to 47 percent among likely voters.

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories....02251879&EDATE=



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A Harris poll of likely voters published in the Wall Street Journal had Senator Kerry up 48-47 percent.

http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region...=94379®ion=4




i would like a retraction and an apology, sir.
jaybee
QUOTE (Huey_P @ Sep 17 2004, 10:35 PM)
i didnt state anything.

that was the direct quote from their site as of last nite.

Dan Rather's protege there, Huey?

Let me clear it up for you....you didn't orginally state it, but you agreed with it by posting it, which makes it your statement too.

No retraction necessary!
Huey_P
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you didn't orginally state it, but you agreed with it by posting it, which makes it your statement too.


yes, i agreed with it by posting it.. BECAUSE ITS TRUE

i provided 3 links in my previous post documenting that, contrary to politiphile's FALSE statement, the WSJ/Harris poll was among LIKELY voters.. NOT just "adults", or whatever he said.


therefore i am requesting a retraction and an apology from politiphile for accusing me of misrepresenting the facts, when it was HE who was incorrect.


thank u, have a nice day. smile.gif
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