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ingognito
Interesting!

Is there a connection between Bush and the makers of the electronic voting machines?
09/20/2004 11:38
This election is rigged and Bush will win no matter what.

Election Systems & Software (ES&S), Diebold, and Sequoia, are the companies that are making and distributing the new electronic voting machines. These machines are being programmed by a man who some have suggested has a significant number of legal entanglements.

The machines are programmed with two sets of books and no paper trail. With the use of a two digit code, the election committees can change the voting tallies in favor of one candidate. For example, if a majority voted is for Kerry, enter the two digit code and all the votes go to Bush.

In one round of testing, observers notice that even when they voted for the opposition, the vote was always recorded as a vote for Bush - I reported on this to Pravda.ru's readership.

Are there hints of mutual cooperation? Yes, there is. Election Systems & Software (ES&S), Diebold, and Sequoia all have more than strong ties to Bush and other Republican leaders.

Diebold in an effort to take the onus off themselves has contracted Scientific Applications International Corporation (SAIC) of San Diego, to take responsibility for security issues within their software. But this has heavy implications also - SAIC has strong ties to Donald Rumsfeld.

He who is without sin, cast the first stone. Each one of the three companies has a past plagued by financial scandal and political controversy:

In 1999 the Justice Department filed federal charges against Sequoia alleging that employees paid out more than 8 million dollars in bribes. Shortly thereafter, election officials for Pinellas County, Florida, cancelled a fifteen-million-dollar contract with Sequoia after it was discovered that Phil Foster, a Sequoia executive, faced indictment for money laundering and bribery.

In addition:
Michael McCarthy, owner of ES&S (formerly known as American Information Systems), served as Senator Chuck Hagel's campaign manager in both the 1996 and 2002 elections. Senator Hagel owns close to $5 million in stock in the ES&S parent company. In 1996 and 2002 eighty percent of Senator Hagel's votes were counted by ES&S.

Diebold, the most well known of these three major groups, is under scrutiny for a memo that Diebold's CEO, Walden O'Dell, sent out promising Ohio's votes to Bush in the 2004 election. Beyond this faux pas, intra-office memos were circulated on the Internet stating that Diebold employees were aware of bugs within their systems and that the network is poorly guarded against hackers.

SAIC has had a series of charges brought against them including indictments by the Justice Department for the mismanagement of a Superfund toxic cleanup and misappropriation of funds in the purchase of F-15 fighter jets.

One company that has been a major contributor to the Republican Party is Accenture. Accenture was involved in financial scandals, and charged with incompetence in both Canada and the US throughout the '90s and 2000s. Government defense contractors like Northrup-Grumman, Lockheed-Martin, Electronic Data Systems (EDS), are also heavy contributors to the Republican Party.


http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/39...258_Voting.html
Kerry for Senator
Ha Ha. Worried are you that your pathetic Kerry poll doesn't hold water?

Got your bases covered either way?
lamphun
Yes why bother to vote in the Banana republic.

- The truth is supressed and those who speak it are persecuted - Dan Rather
- Elections rigged - Florida where 80,000 were denied their rightful vote.
- The economy is looted by the rich - The biggest deficit in history, will the IMF step in ?

Sounds like Guatemala or Zimbabwe.

It only took Bush four years to turn a rich country into a bankrupt basket case. Don't think so ! wait here comes the bill ! (No ducking out through the toilet window this time)
Kerry for Senator
QUOTE (lamphun @ Sep 21 2004, 12:59 AM)
Yes why bother to vote in the Banana republic.

HA HA, and what great country do you come from?
Butterfly
you know things have changed when you have to rely on the pravda to get accurate news
ingognito
KFS, lets be honest here, your debt is a big problem for your country and Bush is the one to blame. Why cant you guy be a little more truthfull?

4 more years of Bush and you will alienate yourselves from the rest of the world and your economy will collapse. You once told me you owned a small business. Would you run your company like that?
Kerry for Senator
Ingognito, economics is very complex, and I do not claim to have any great understanding.

I do know:

1) Economies are cyclical, and W inherited a recession.

2) The tax cuts helped to pull us out of recession, but also increased the debt.

3) A healthy economy accrues more revenue, thus helping to decrease the debt.

4) 9/11 & Afghan war had a big effect on the debt, which I feel are unavoidable.

5) Iraq is a debacle which has been very negative for the debt. Kerry also supported the war.

6) Bush is fiscally irresponsible which is negative for the debt.

7) Kerry wants to spend more than Bush, thus increasing the debt.

8) Kerry wants to tax more, which will be negative for the economy, and negative in the long run for the debt.

9) Have no idea how much debt we can handle, and having debt is not entirely bad, although this level is concerning.

Sorry I do not have a simple solution, or simple understanding.

If all falls apart, I will go live with my girlfriend in Vietnam, and vacation in HKT. Maybe even buy you a beer if I have time to offer it to you between introducing myself, and your first swing. biggrin.gif
Butterfly
KFS, I know you don't claim to have an economic degree or anything, but some of your economic assumptions and conclusions above are dead wrong. Basic economics is not that hard to learn (at least for me), you might want to learn a little bit more about it, might be useful, and might change your mind on a few things.

Just a friendly advice wink.gif
WhythelongfaceKerry
QUOTE (lamphun @ Sep 21 2004, 12:59 AM)
Yes why bother to vote in the Banana republic.

- The truth is supressed and those who speak it are persecuted - Dan Rather
- Elections rigged - Florida where 80,000 were denied their rightful vote.
- The economy is looted by the rich - The biggest deficit in history, will the IMF step in ?

Sounds like Guatemala or Zimbabwe.

It only took Bush four years to turn a rich country into a bankrupt basket case. Don't think so ! wait here comes the bill ! (No ducking out through the toilet window this time)

mad.gif shut up, the terrorists turned america into what it is, other wise we would be flourishing in 200 billion dollars of cash!
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