Kerry calls Allawi a liar. The DNC calls Allawi a US puppet.
And he wants to run the country? Call you spell psychotic?

Kerry's out of control! How does he expect to work with people he says are liars? But then he never implied he's work with the new Iraqi government...he only said he would have worked with Saddam.

He and his also accused Bush of exploiting Allawi for political gain.

Kerry hasn't stopped causing our country harm in the eyes of the world since 1965!

Thanks for posting this Bob, i would have had you not. Kerry isn't even a consistent liar. On the one hand he wants us to believe he supports the war but when he has an opportunity to go to Washington to meet the man who is leading the Country at the frontlines of this War he doesn't even show up. And to add insult to injury he and his henchmen make the statements you mention above further emboldening the Terrorists and insurgents at the expense of the good Iraqi people and our Soldiers in the War Zone.

Just like he did during the Vietnam War, he is betraying our Troops for personal Political gain. Most people have no idea how many soldiers have vowed to resign from the Military on November 3rd if John Kerry wins the Oval Office on the 2nd.

I am listening to kerry give a speech right now as he promises to fight this War to win it as if Bush isn't fighting to win; But more importantly how can Americans believe a man who has built a complete Political carreer by lieing to the American People and by lieing to himself. If you haven't read "Unfit To Command" I strongly reccomend you do.

This book proves decisevely that the alleged Vietnam Antiwar Movement he led was in fact a Pro Communist Movement dedicated to protecting and encouraging that oppressive Political Philosophy. If the Patriots on this forum do anything at all before Nov. 2nd. to convince friends and family members to vote for Bush, please get this Book and show them the evidence of who Lurch Kerry really is.

Allawi IS a US puppet.. lol

did we not put him in power?

he's an unelected official who's de-facto authority is unrecognized by his own people.

what kind of ally is that? a useless one, to be sure. and one who is OBVIOUSLY pro-Bush, but who is also incapably impotent in convincing his people to support Bush's policies.

Hopefully, Iraq freedom fighters will kill Allawi

Butterfly, it's best not to make suggestions of violence against a public official. Big brother is probably watching us.

The fact that you would call Terrorists and Islamofascists Freedom fighters shows just how uninformed you are. Do you really think they are blowing up Iraqi citizens and cutting of the heads of innocent construction workers to bring freedom to Iraq ? NO, they are doing this in order to maintain their oppressive control over the citizens of the Middle East and Iraqi people specifically.

Of course only reprobates see this situation as you do, so as sad as it is, i understand where you are coming from.

and if Big Brother isnt listening, one of these freedom loving (but Bill of Rights hating) Bush supporters might just go tell on u.

So being a lover of Freedom is a bad thing now huey ? Being Pro American makes us evil now ? Loving our Country is wrong ? Please look up the word reprobate and tell me if it doesn't describe you and Bitterbug perfectly huey. You are a disgrace to the Country that gives you the freedom to say these things. Ali

actually, i love Freedom enough not to want to take it away.

i love Freedom enough not to support an administration that chips those Freedoms away piece by piece.

i love Freedom enough not to judge someone's dedication to this country based on how they choose to express those Freedoms.



have a nice day, Ali Muhammad Shahid Hamas al-Nazr...


are u sure YOU'RE american? maybe we should check your emails and search your house just to be sure

I invite you to contact the FBI and have them investigate both of us. Three guesses who they carry away in shackles huey, and the first two don't count. If they judged us just by the messages we have posted on this forum you would be in big trouble. And by the way, i have been investigated by the FBI for Security purposes so they know i am loyal. When i fly i am green flagged through Security ahead of 80 year old women they haven't investigated; Can you say the same thing ? Would you like me to contact the FBI to get the ball rolling on this challenge ? I would be more than happy to let them know the likes of you and Bitterbug who are trolling around spewing your Communist Philosophy.

Oops !!! sorry

Don't tell me !!! you are in "special services" too and you live in Pattaya

Oh man, you are a riot !!! Go tell the FBI, I dare you. They will laugh at your face with your "communist" accusations. We are not in 1950 !!!! wake up or stop doing coke, obviously it gives you too many bad trips !!!

No Huey we did not put him in power.

We had nominated someone else, who the Shiite coalition rejected.

The UN advisor, and shiite coalition worked with the US to come up with Allawi.

I know all of this makes no sense to you, and I'm going to get back a stupid comment, but I'm used to it.

You could not have held elections any earlier. It will be hard enough in Jan.

Sure this once again falls on deaf ears.

and this is exactly what i'm talking about.

YOU dont value freedom, because u would so quickly turn to the FBI to report a fellow American who has done no wrong other than exercise his freedom of speech.

and if the FBI did happen to arrest me for it, u would admittedly support that.. which is just ANOTHER example of your support for an Administration which is opposed to the very Freedoms which make our country great.

u stand by so-called "leaders", idealogues and demogogues.

wether its peacetime or h3ll on earth, i stand by the CONSTITUTION.


which, by the way, is now considered a "threat" by the FBI... go figure

Kerry is a disgrace to his position, and a joke in his desire to represent the people of the U.S. at it's highest position.

His shrugging off Allawi is truly sad. This guy who is going to change the international climate

Harkens back to meeting with the No. Vietnamese in Paris.

Kerry is a traitor to the common good, and a lying opportunist.

Oh boy, this is a dream come true. We could have half of the board "conservatives" arrested with those FBI assumptions !!!

Good catch Huey

I love that "Super Patriot" provision. That alone would put all our "conservative" friends in jail for a very very very long time thanks to the Patriot Act. I guess everything in the Patriot Act was not that bad if we can put all those "right wing" nuts in jail.

Ok, when do we start ?

Well BOB, I watched that charade live on CNN and I what I saw was exactly what Kerry had said. Allawi was versed in what to say, he is also on a pre election show for both Bush and Blair.

I noticed that Bush had no respect for this man, you could see it in his eyes. He also let Allawi go through the script and you could see Bush getting uncomfortable as the English spurting from his mouth was slower and Bush was hanging on every scripted word - it was the worse bit of acting Ive seen.

That is what I saw, not sure if you can get a stream on the web, but worth checking it out.

Flame away.

Allawi, Bush, Cheney All
Lying About Conditions In Iraq
By Sam Hamod
9-24-4

The puppet PM of Iraq, Iyad Allawi, his sponsors, President Bush and VP Dick Cheney are all lying to the American public about the real situation in Iraq. They say things are getting better, that most of Iraq could vote in an election tomorrow and that "democracy and freedom will prevail, without a doubt." Nonsense! Out and out lies.

The Sunni Triangle, Sadr City, Najaf, Ramadi, Karbala, Mosul, Samarra-all of these important centers, even Kirkuk, which once seemed safe in the hands of the Kurds, have all become no-go zones for the American troops and the small number of Iraqis who dare venture in to be shot. America is bombing all of these places on an almost daily basis; thus, antagonizing more and more Iraqis and more Muslims throughout the world. As I said in an article months ago, America and its puppets around Allawi have succeeded in doing something that could not be done since the 700s, they have united the Sunni and Shi'a against America and its occupation army.

America and Allawi keep speaking about a "civil war breaking out" if America leaves. But from polls taken, most
Iraqis say they will take that chance, and all their leaders have made clear that they want the Americans out so they can pull their country together. This hardly sounds like "civil war."

Bush and Allawi continue to lie, day after day, to the point that the American public, hearing these lies from the U.S. media now believes them. But, those on the ground who know enough to distrust the words of Allawi, know better. Finally, today, on MSNBC, the Baghdad chief of bureau for Newsweek, a Mr. Nordland, said, "Things are very bad, and many of the places that Mr. Allawi said are safe, are places I would not venture into." This helps contradict Bush, Allawi and the sycophants who hang at the hotels and repeat Allawi's words to the American media outlets for whom they work.

As anyone who has spent time in the Arab or Muslim world knows, you can tell a man's honesty by his eyes; I've spent that kind of time there as has Robert Fisk and Patrick Cockburn and some others. They know what I know, Allawi is a big liar, not to be trusted about anything he says. He's a cheap Arab con-man who may be useful to the neo-cons in D.C., but not good for the Iraqis. He was in exile for good reason, no one in Iraq wanted him there, neither Saddam or the religious leaders nor the people of Iraq. The only group that wanted him was the CIA; used them and they used him, now we have a mess on our hands with Allawi making it worse. I personally don't think he'll last that long, especially if he wanders outside of the American protected "green zone."

Today, Ayatollah Al Sistani criticized Allawi for his double dealing and said that the way things were going there could not be a legitimate election in Iraq. He also criticized the U.S. and Allawi for going back on their word and raiding the headquarters of Moqtada Al Sadr. Sistani said this will cause more resistance and fighting in Iraq not less.

The other contradiction this week that has not gone down well with honest critics of the Iraq situation is the Bush statement that "There are only a few hundred insurgents."
Allawi later said, "There are thousands of foreign fighters coming in across the borders to fight in Iraq." Add to this that many of us who know the Iraqi culture know for a fact that there are thousands of Iraqis who are fighting against America and Allawi because of the arrests of their relatives, the wounding and killing of family members or the destruction of their homes by American F 16s or Apache Helicopters or U.S. tanks. I'm sure by now, the Iraqi resistance fighters number in the hundreds of thousands, not simply a few hundred or a few thousand. Remember, as I have said before, people in a traditional society have long memories and close extended families who will seek revenge for those abused by Allawi or by the American troops.

Add to this the thousands of Muslims from around the world, from China, from Pakistan, from Afghanistan, from Uzbekistan, from Indonesia, from Egypt, from Syria, from Lebanon, who want to get to Iraq to fight the occupiers of their fellow Muslim country--and you can see that things will get worse rather than better in time.

Thus, clearly, things are worse in Iraq today than any time in the past decades. There is no clean drinking water in Iraq according to even NBC News; there is very little electricity (this from an expert from Qatar who went to help the situation a month ago); there is little security because a person may be killed while asleep from a U.S. rocket, a tank shell or bullets from an F16, or may be caught in a crossfire between resistance fighters and American troops.

As to the Iraqis becoming a security force-you can forget about that. They do not want to kill their neighbors or their cousins, or anyone else's families for that matter because they know this will cause a blood feud with another family or tribe. One could see this when the "Iraqi Army" went over to the Iraqi resistance side and refused to fight their cousins or other Iraqis; the same was true in Najaf, in Sadr City and will be the case in other instances. The Iraqis will not fight for the Americans or the puppet Allawi.

They also know that when push comes to shove, the Americans will leave and they will be left alone to face the music; they also know that Allawi will not last that long either.

We have made a mess of Iraq; there is no freedom, no security and no democracy there. America has substituted a minor Saddam for the previous brutal Saddam and in the process has killed and maimed thousands of the populace with no apologies or regrets.

America is not welcome now, nor will it be welcome in Iraq for many decades to come. This is the truth; what Bush, Allawi and Cheney have to say is but a sack of lies.

It is time that the media started calling Allawi what he is, a Vichy style puppet for the Bush regime. They must also start calling Bush and Cheney what they are, liars. Unless the media does this, they will be as guilty as Bush when the house of cards and lies in Iraq comes crashing down on our troops, on our economy and on our integrity and reputation in the world. As it is, the Arabs and Muslims are sick of us. It won't be long before the rest of the world joins them in disgust and disrespect.

To sum it all up, America is in deep trouble. We have a president and vice president who consistently lie to the people, using their "war on terror" as an abstraction that allows them to have a war without end to allegedly "protect us."

In the meantime, they are taking away Constitutional and legal rights in America, just as Hitler did in Germany, "to protect our nation."

They have installed in Iraq, Allawi, an exile who is their puppet and is no more legitimate than the Vichy government that Hitler installed in France in WWII.


The resistance fighters in Iraq who are defending their families, their homes and their country are called "terrorists," but our troops who bomb civilians with F16s, tanks and Apache Gunships are called "freedom fighters." Somehow, up is down and down is up and our media is doing little to help the public see the honest truth. We are in Alice in Wonderland.

Most media people do as Jim Lehrer of The News Hour on PBS does, they fawn over the Bushites and Allawi, treating them as if they are honest and honorable people who speak only the truth. I hope the American people wake up to the truth, but I may be an idealistic optimist. But I see no other way to save our democracy than for us to speak up to as many as we can. I hope you will pass this article on to others so that they may know the truth as well.

If we don't have a major change in this election, I fear that if Bush is allowed another 4 years we won't recognize our country by the time Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld,Rove, Feith, Wolfowitz, Perle, Hastert and Frist are done with it.

Sam Hamod writes on world affairs; he is the former editor of 3rd World News in D.C., the former Director of The Islamic Center in D.C. and President of the American Islamic Institute. He may be reached at shamod@cox.net Look for his Essays In Times of War in 2005 (Ishmael Reed Publishing Co.)



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My!!!... what big eyes you have grandma!

You rightwingies are missing the OBVIOUS point.

The only OUTRAGEOUS thing about this whole Allawi farce is that this PUPPET of an invading and occupying regime is allowing himself to be USED to take a partisan point of view in a US presidential election.

This is shameful and also a disservice to his country.

No world leader should actively campaign for EITHER SIDE.
Disgusting.

I guess you have been partaking in Mexico.

Claro que si.

Mexico's a fun place. Especially if you are anywhere but Tijuana.

Enjoy yourself.

I don't mind you using Thaiquila as a handle but please for the sake of common sense debate stop drinking it. Your ramblings are difficult enough to comprehend.

My love of the cactus aside, you actually think it is ACCEPTABLE for a foreign leader to shamelessly campaign in a foreign election????

You are the same hypocrites who made such a big deal about Kerry saying many foreign leaders want him to win, but he has the appropriate DISCRETION to not say the names.

That is because Kerry is PRESIDENTIAL and bush is still a RANK AMATEUR.

I know you guys can smell Kerry coming on strong in the stretch. He is going to eat bush alive in the debates.

The reason we wanted him to name names is because the only support he has is from Communists and Islamofascists. And if you come out of your alcaholic haze see that the women of America are now rejecting his lies and misinformation in favor of honesty and truth.

And last night i saw that Jews in Israel and America are registering to vote for Bush. But you keep believing and dreaming Thai, that's what you do best.

The left-wingfers are clearly right on this one.

Allawi is a puppet who's political position is tied to the future of Iraq. He is hardly going to come on t.v. and say that Iraq is falling apart now is he?

I continue to believe that those who paint too gloomy a picture are misled because they want to be right so much that they want Iraq to fail, on the other hand those who claim the opposite are equally deluded!

Iraq continues to be on a knife-edge, and anyone who believes the conclusion to this war is obvious is a smarter man than me!

Gideon, if everything was as bad as they say, and the Americans as hated as they say, then wouldn't it be smart of Allawi to seperate himself from the Americans.

PS- have heard a lot of things about Allawi, but never that he is dumb.

PSS- Once and again, we did not directly pick Allawi, but in coordination with the UN, and the Shiitie council members. Hello?

You have a good point here KFS, but Allawi also owes his position to the Americans and considering what happened to the head of the Iraqi Governing Council he is bound to feel uncertain about his position and more inclined to support the American line.

Do you think he was lieing when he said that 15 out of 18 provinces are secure and they could hold elections in those provinces tommorrow ?

yes.

The Liar-In-Chief was also lying when he said there were 100,000 fully trained and equipped Iraqi police.

Most of the country is ready for elections! Because they have taken place!

Secular local politicians have been electied in many provinces!

Kerry su-cks for playing games like he does...bashing our allies when his whole big master plan was to make all the world our allies! Not off to a good start there Mr. Flip Flop.

Excellent. For once you said something that make sense. Are you on the path for progress ? watch out, soon you will become a collectivist