53-Year-Old Marine Proud to Get Recalled
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/na...ation-headlines

Our resident "patriotic" fighters have another chance to prove it despite their age. That should be more interesting than their boring retirement plan in Pattaya

And a whole lot better than hanging with your Muay Thai pansies!

what ? you are jealous too ?

Come over, I will teach you

Michael Jordans older brother was also glad to go. He certainly didn't need the money.

I think the ladyboy boxer is interesting!

So there should be a noticable absence of consevative posters in the near future, unless they are draft dodgers or armchail soldiers!

I hope you'll survive the war, Boon Me, John L, Georgie and friends!

Or what was it I have read before? If anybody goes 'missing', it should be THEM!

I think that the ladyboy boxer is interested!

Talking about having a Draft - no need. We have lots of Patriotic American boys who believe in supporting their President and defending their country to worry about drafting any lip-wristed, commie bleeding-heart liberal Jane Fonda/Tom Hayden, Barbara Striesand loving Moonbats!

Great, good ridance

I am sorry you said that. I was beginning to kind of like you.

What is that avatar supposed to mean, the grim reeper? Don't take offense, but I think it sucks. I think you should pick something and stick with it, just as with career, marriage, and NATIONAL POLICY.

Sure

Military college takes financial hit with cadets' deployment

Associated Press


MILLEDGEVILLE, Ga. - Georgia Military College not only has seen its student body dwindle with the deployment of troops to Iraq, but the institution also is taking a financial hit because of the war.

It stands to lose a half-million dollars this year from 40 cadets recently activated to go to Iraq. The fiscal shortfall could be even higher next year - a loss of $750,000.

Maj. Gen. Peter Boylan, the college's president, said he's proud his cadets have been given the chance to serve their country. It's just that his school is being asked to bear a cost like no other public institution in the state.

"In this case, it's costing the school more than we can afford ... There's no way that I can make up $500,000 in lost revenue."

The deployed cadets take advantage of a state program that offers 39 new scholarships each year at about $17,000 per student. They also receive supplementary financial assistance while enrolled. To receive the scholarship, the students must serve one year in the Georgia National Guard for each year they attended school on the scholarship.

But the college, with a current enrollment of 4,500 students, does not receive funding for its students if they aren't there.

Cadets have been to missions in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Balkans, but those deployments came with more notice and were staggered, Boylan said, adding that this deployment is the largest for cadets at the military college in 13 years.

The Iraq war will "vastly diminish" his cadets' desire to continue in the Guard and will create a "severe recruiting and retention problem" for the school, Boylan said.

The two-year college already has been working on ways to counter the shortfall, such as increasing its commuter student enrollment at campuses around the state. The Milledgeville campus accommodates 250 live-in cadets.

The school also is working on an online correspondence program so students can finish their studies while away, and it was given permission to award more scholarships than usual next year.

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Latest Guard Deployment Includes Mostly Women


BY LAUREN ROTH THE SUNDAY TIMES 01/09/2005



TAYLOR -- Many of the soldiers sharing a sendoff lunch with their families Saturday are following the Army tradition of their fathers, uncles and grandfathers.

But most of them are their families' first women in uniform.

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"I think it's the same," said Spc. Desaree O'Donnell, 21, of Hazleton. Her uncle and grandfather served in the military.

More than 20 of the 32 National Guard soldiers being deployed from the Taylor-based 228th Forward Support Company B are women. The soldiers were honored as they prepared to leave today for training before a tour of duty in Iraq. A group of 14 soldiers from Western Pennsylvania joined them.

"I wish I could take her place," said Bryan O'Donnell of Hazleton, Spec. O'Donnell's uncle. "But I know she has to do it."

Maj. William Yuhas said the Taylor detachment is 85 percent women, most of them under 25. He said many women have joined because the 228th is the only non-combat unit in the area.

After several months of training in Mississippi, the unit is slated to head to Iraq for about a year, where they will service vehicles and equipment at a base or on the road with infantry and patrols, according to Lt. Juan Abreu.

Spc. Vivian Corchado-Reyes, 20, of Hazleton, joined the unit three years ago with Spc. O'Donnell, a childhood friend and neighbor. Spc. Corchado-Reyes said she was inspired to serve by her father, Luis Corchado, a Vietnam veteran.

"I'm sad because I know what people see in war," he said.

Spc. Corchado-Reyes said the hardest part would be leaving her family, especially her mother, Tomasa, who is recovering from a lung transplant.

"She's taken care of me," Mrs. Corchado said. "I hope she's coming back safe."

"I'm really scared watching the news about what's going on over there," Spc. Corchado-Reyes said. "But I have confidence in our leaders, so it's good to be going with people I trust."

She said she wants to see other cultures because she has never been outside Pennsylvania. And she said she hopes to learn skills that will help her study to become a police officer when she returns.

Spc. Jessica Smith, 23, of Harrisburg, said it helps to know they're doing important work.

"It'll give the people over there a break and a chance to come home," she said.

Her mother, Tracy Dahl of South Gibson, clutched her daughter's new address and a small flag as she said how much she will miss her eldest child.

"No one's ever really prepared to leave their family for that length of time," Spc. Smith said.

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Let's make predicitons:

Before 2006, there will be a draft or else the US will leave Iraq

ok, who is taking bets ?

I was of the understanding that women and children first, was to save lives

The scouts will be next.

More than 88 percent of the 3,000-member Hawaii Army National Guard Division have been called to active duty -- the highest ratio of reservists and National Guard soldiers of any state in the country.

"The only unit I have left is the band," Maj. Gen. Bob Lee, commander general of the Hawaii Guard, told members of the Chamber of Commerce of Hawaii yesterday.

http://starbulletin.com/2005/01/07/news/story1.html

The good thing about not having a draft, is that noone can say innocents who were forced to fight against their will were killed or mutilated. As it stands now: - Som nam na.

Tazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzze Boom!

When you reach 750 posts, you may exchange your tazer for a cattleprod. A complimentary English-English dictionary will be included.

Your Welcome.

That is all!

P.S. I just couldn't....Cattleprod . as I know you anxiously did!

No thanks, I have different sensibilities than you and will gladly leave you to your speedo keytoy fun there sTROLLer master.

UStroller

Your sending your veterans, your women and now your cadets, can you actually sit there and be that dumb?

Ill leave you to Butterfly or Stroll as I couldnt be bothered explaining it to you.

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Try again… Tazzzzzzzze Baboom!

That is all!

He only needs to be reminded from time to time to pick up his prescription.

That is all!

I actually thought you were smarter than the majority of your group, but after an answer like that, Ill leave you be to rant and rave as usual.

a couple of points for you to ponder - If you cannot see the build up to a draft, you are blind. It will never be worded like that as Bush promised there wouldnt be one. It will be spun a differnet way to sell it ot you drips. You are sending your reserves and national guard and when they are all gone, what happens??
Remember as I have stated time and time again - you will never win this war, you will be still being killed in the streets of Iraq for the duration of your stay.

The reason more women are being sent into active duty, is because you do not have the numbers in your men ranks (for frontline combative roles). A women has every right to become a soldier, but should not be asked to be on the front line in Iraq, for two reasons.
1. You are supposed to be freeing a nation from an evil dictator and the country is muslim. You are again going against the beliefs of the country you are trying to help . Women are classed as mothers and family carers in the Muslim world and shouldnt be seen killing men or torturing prisoners - then again you couldnt care about the religion you are trying to help anyway.
2. Would you let your sister or mum strap on here rifle before you?, maybe you guys here should be at least joning so your wives and mothers do not have to fight for you.

You rave on to say "my faith" uses wome as property - your a bottom feeder yourself there troller.

Anyway keep on telling us we have no idea and we are blah blah blah and get ready for the next news item on Fox.

Why arent you signing up for a war you wanted?? not enough money? dont really care about Iraq? scared?... anyway lets salute the women and children that are fighting in your place and make sure you attend a few of their furnerals.

let's do a test

ustrader, what is the result of 2 +2 ?

McCain, you sound like another "specialist" who has retired in Pattaya. Do you live in the same barrak with JohnL and Blather ? the barrak must be a mess

I suspect he dipped into his stash of Mexican peyote this morning.

I find it particularly interesting how the liberals are so thoroughly panicked at the thought of a draft. What, sirs, is the matter? Is fighting for your freedom and your family's safety to noble a cause for you?

What was it I read somewhere about liberty and choice?
I can't remember which looney lib website was referring to this.

Typical. You're willing to flaunt your rights, and use them to your advantage at every possible moment, but you'll never lift a finger to defend them.

I'd defend my rights and vote Bush out if I was an US citizen.

I suppose being bombed by terrorists under John Kerry would be preferable to fighting a war?

Bush or Kerry isn't the question.
But I agree that one must be prepared to stand up for freedom and civil rights.
If there was active resistance in the US and more international coordination to counteract aggressive foreign policies, perhaps noone would have felt the need to bomb the symbol of corporate imperialism and free-marketeering.

US liberals are too soft.
Union syndicates should demolish the military industry.

Oh, so terrorists are rational now, are they? Be nice to them and they'll be nice to us, is that it?

There will always people who want to fight. Liberty asserts our right to choose if and when we might want to join a legitimate military intervention. The freedom of choice is essential, it provides a model of what one is fighting for on this occasion. A dictatorship's claim to fight wars on distant shores for principles of democracy has no credibility.

Butterfly Da man???




Well dog! 2 +2 is You DOG remember the picture you sent me!!! [/b]

Oh no, we have a new Bush clown on board, where do you come from, boy ?

Why aren't you in Iraq if you support this cause so much ? oh wait, let me guess, you have too much work to do or you prefer to let others better fitted for the job to go die for you instead, right ?

I hope you will not dodge when it comes and that you will proudly serve and die in Iraq

We post different arguments from different angles but you keep chasing the same ghosts over and over like an obessed lunatic.

Could you be honnest for once and stop cyphering your post with "secret phrases" that nobody can understand except you (and Boom Boom Me of course) ?

I am serious, if you are in need of new meds (like I suspect), I will send you another case for your head

I am not sure whether he needs to increase the dose.
I suspect having a rest for a while should bring him back on the ground. But I realise this is difficult to pull through for someone who works for the US military advisory service in Bangkok, they have drawers full of ace gear of any de- or prescription, due to their military contacts.
But I feel your pain, as they say.

"Community Services of Bangkok, or CSB as it is commonly known, was started in 1986 to try and serve the mental health needs of the ex-pat community."
http://www.scottmurray.com/community_services_of_bangkok.htm
Oops, the Bush admin pulled the funding plug on that one.

However, Narcotics Anonymous meet regularly in Bangkok, tazer.
http://www.na-thailand.org/meetings.htm

I haven't been for years, but they are a friendly bunch. Everybody welcome.

I know it's too much to ask to expect correct English from you, but at least try using the quote feature correctly. I know all those little signs on the keyboard all look the same, but please try to make an effort.

Let me do it for you:



See, { is not the same as [

The Bush gang of thugs will avoid the draft issue at all costs because they know it would cause a backlash of dissent and protest. Who wants to be stupid enough to go fight in the greatest military blunder in modern history?

I think the ustrader is the best thing to hit the Bearpit in awhile. He is tireless. He provides you with the conservative opposition you desire. He keeps you guys off balance, and he makes alot of sense.

Congradulations ustrader for standing up to Butterfly, Stroll and the like. Don't let them get to you. Tell it like it is. Butterfly uses his meds line on every conservative when he runs out of things to say, and is speechless by your wisdom.

You have to give it to Bush, or his advisors. They have studied history, and figured out how to:
1. Get nominated for President (by being governor of Texas).
2. Beat Gore.
3. Beat Kerry (by not repeating mistakes of his Father)
4. Run a war with minimum of dissent (by not repeating mistakes of VN, ie no draft)

Further, VN was a far bigger military blunder. Korea was a bigger military blunder. Somalia was a big military blunder. Bay of Pigs was a military blunder. In fact, as opposed to being a military blunder, it can be argued that this Iraq thing is the first military excursion since WWII that was actually in the interest of the US. There are far more issues involving Iraq (oil, terrorism, Israel proximity, militant Islam, WMD) which are vital to the United States than were present in any of the other above mentioned military adventures.

Could it be that most conservatives on this board (most being former special services agents living in Pattaya) are just the scum of the right ? and being scum they need their meds everyday to live with themselves ?

Actually, I love the meds line. It is kind of like your signature. Your postings wouldn't be complete without them. I enjoy your humor.

Speaking of humor, what is your favorite form of nonlethal torture? Have you ever thought about it. I think the Chinese water torture is the best. One drip at a time on the forehead for maybe two days.

The dental torture is another good one. Ever seen Marathon Man?

I think the water boarding thing holds promice. Can't catch your breath?

Parachute jumping, with and without a parachute. Kind of like extreme bungijumping.

Oh, and there is the Islamic favorites:
Stoning.
Amputation.
Decapitation, with a dull knife of course.

And speaking of conservative/liberal. How you label the Islamics, conservative or liberal?
They think of women as dirty, especially during holy days.
They follow their bible literally.
They believe in capital punishment.
They don't believe in gun control.
They hate New Yorkers.

Yep, their conservatives.

America-bashing is my favorite non-lethal form of torture, it is within the boundaries of international law, induces pain where it hurts the ego, and it ain't really torture, just a form of 'hazing' to initiate an adolescent nation into adulthood and maturity.

Much more effective on a mass scale than any intentional slip of the dentist's drill you may resort to in your practice, Gary.

I liked the Snoopy avatar. This one is too, too, well German.

Next thing you know, Herr Stroll will be proclaiming his new position here as forum OBERFÜHRER. D2's job is most likely going to be in question.

Instead of banning the 'problem children' here, he can simply send them to Camp Mauthausen, where they can whistle on the way to a leasurly day of work at the Quarry.