So, bush is getting his MEAN SPIRITED, bankruptcy giveaway law to the hyper profitable and USERIOUS credit card empire.

Shame on you, republican scum:

Newsweek's Jonathan Alter put it best when he wrote of the
bankruptcy changes -
http://letters.washingtonpost.com/W3RT0422...88EE7F3CF09E430 : "[T]his bill, like so many others moving
through Congress, comforts the comfortable and afflicts the
afflicted. Worse, it provides for no distinction between those
who get unlucky in Las Vegas and those who get cancer. The law
was literally written by the credit-card industry, the same
folks whose siren-song targeting of high-risk borrowers caused
much of the bankruptcy problem in the first place. First
Congress puts a half trillion in budget deficits a year on the
plastic for our grandchildren to pay off. Then it sells out the
average American to predatory lenders, who have the run of the
place. History should remember the 109th as the Credit Card
Congress."

TQ, when are you going to trade in some of that vast emotional turmoil twisting you brain, for a bit of logic? Your emotional 'rants' are rendering you unimportant.

Get a grip on yourself and tackle the subject from a logical foundation. I am sure that you have some strong points that could be made. However, the sheer level of mindless tirade renders them totally ineffectual.

You are not doing your political idealogy, sexual proclivity, Jewish heritage, etc, etc, any good here. Please go out and purchase some more logic, for the sanity of the rest of us, ok?

Are you OFFERING to sell me some logic, Daddy Schmeilbucks?
Oh, yes, please, pretty please?
Do you take Visa?

As far as fighting for my ideology, I think that is pointless at this point. The world is in an extreme fascistic, right wing phase right now, and if the world survives this phase, the pendulum will swing back left AS IT ALWAYS HAS, when the PAIN inflicted by the right wing fanatics takes its full, deadly toll.
A mere mortal like me can just observe in fascination from my irrelevant perch here in Thailand.

You keep a civil tongue in you mouth! I don't care what else you allow in there, but civility is one that I recommend from you, my Ashkenazi counterpart.



No TQ, things are simply righting themselves, pardon the pun. We are slowly shedding ourselves from all that Left Wing Collectivist garbage that folks like you mindlessly spout out of you mouth. And thank G-d for it!



Believe me TQ, it would not matter whether on not you were in Thailand OR Atlanta. You would still be irrelevent. But I still like you and appreciate your antics more than ever before.

Plus, you make me look like a genius, that's why.

TQ I know. I feel you frustration. Personal responsibility is indeed a terrible thing.
We must seek to perpetuate the need for the government to take care of us. Redistribution of wealth is a god given right, "n'est ce pas"?

Hopefully this new bankruptcy law will discourag people from maxing out three credit cards. Our credit debt in this country is outrageous. I'm glad he signed it. When will people learn that they shouldn't buy way more than they can afford? Who knows? Maybe we'll get some people saving money to spend instead paying three times the cost in increments. I doubt that the "gotta have right now" mindset is going anywhere soon, though.

There by the grace of God go thee!
Incredible.
Let us all know how you feel if you experience a great misfortune and fall into financial despair.
The vast majority of bankrupties in the US are LAYOFF and/or HEALTH CRISIS related.
Are you a Christian?
If so, you need to learn what that religion really means.

dkward2, you see what I am talking about on my other post?

Whatever you say.
I may be a liberal bleeding heart, in fact, I wear that label proudly.
At least I STILL HAVE A HEART.

[quote=Thaiquila,Apr 22 2005, 12:52 PM]
dkward2, you see what I am talking about on my other post?

[/quote]
Whatever you say.
I may be a liberal bleeding heart, in fact, I wear that label proudly.
At least I STILL HAVE A HEART.

[/quote]

Having a "heart" is wonderful. But if there is not a properly functioning brain to go with it, the effort is wasted.

My sentiments exactly. Easy bankruptcy laws don't help the poor, TQ. Providing "easy" ways out of life's problems doesn't help people. Giving them money, which is the same as forgiving debt, doesn't help them. In fact it hurts us all. Who wouldn't max out credit cards, spend lavishly, and save little if Uncle Sam would come in and rescue you whenever you had a bill you couldn't pay.

The problem: Forgiving debt on a large scale promotes poor choices.

The solution: Giving bankruptcy, and welfare for that matter, back the stigma it deserves. Make people pay off their debts. Wow, what a novel idea. The carrot and stick method works everytime TQ. Homeownership, healthcare, secure retirement, and providing for your family are the carrots. Bankruptcy is the stick.

No one is throwing anyone into debtors prison until they pay their debt off. (honestly, what dumba$$ thought that one up). But making it a little harder to default on all your debt is a good idea.

You are of course, correct, the United States is a fascist state.

I shall now sit and wait for the US secret police to come arrest you and drag you to the gulags.

Oh wait I forgot, there are none. Beause the US isn't a police state.

I think it is fairly clear what you have done here. You have gone in with a pre-set viewpoint, that being that Bush's idea is a bad one. What the idea is irrelevant, it is a Republican, specifically a Bush idea, and so it is bad. You have then found the viewpoint of one Newsweek writer and used it to prop up you own pre-set viewpoint.

Now before you throw your ad hominems at me, calling me a fascist brainwashed acolyte of the right, it may be useful to know that I do not yet have a position on this issue.

I collect the facts and construct a position.

You construct a position and then collect those facts that support it.

Therein lies the difference between the Conservative, or rather the True Liberal, and the Liberal, or rather, the Egalitarian Reactionary.

Ben, I am beginning to like you more as I read your responses. Clearly you are indeed fast on your feet as well. Does this mean that I am setting myself up for a possible fall?

Ditto!

Yes it does. Soon my Death Star will be complete, and then you will all be sorry. You'll all be sorry I say!