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OsManli
10 Seattle schools targeted for closure
Parents gasp, heckle as draft plan is announced; more than 3,500 students would be displaced

Faced with multimillion-dollar budget deficits, Seattle Public Schools administrators yesterday outlined a cost-cutting plan that would close 10 schools, eliminate a popular alternative program and create two middle schools.


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/221031_school21.html



$400 Billion Defense Budget Unnecessary to Fight War on Terrorism

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3711



And this is EXACTLY why the right wing lunatics, their pretend jewish zionist friends (masquerading as "conservatives") and all the other Dubya supporters/low-lifes need to be run out of town and out of the country.
Ben-T
QUOTE (OsManli @ Apr 21 2005, 05:24 PM)
10 Seattle schools targeted for closure
Parents gasp, heckle as draft plan is announced; more than 3,500 students would be displaced

Faced with multimillion-dollar budget deficits, Seattle Public Schools administrators yesterday outlined a cost-cutting plan that would close 10 schools, eliminate a popular alternative program and create two middle schools.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/221031_school21.html
$400 Billion Defense Budget Unnecessary to Fight War on Terrorism

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3711
And this is EXACTLY why the right wing lunatics, their pretend jewish zionist friends (masquerading as "conservatives") and all the other Dubya supporters/low-lifes need to be run out of town and out of the country.
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Are you capable of saying anything that does not include unsupported anti-semitic claims? It would appear you are not.
John L
QUOTE (Ben-T @ Apr 23 2005, 07:47 PM)
Are you capable of saying anything that does not include unsupported anti-semitic claims? It would appear you are not.
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OsManli is in the running, second to Thaiquila, in the "stand-up comedian" position here. He is quite entertaining. Trust me. However, he cannot quite hold a 'candle' to TQ. Perhaps a bit more training will suffice, but I'm not all that optimistic.

Still, the best act in town is the "Dueling Jews". Stay tuned. wink.gif
OsManli
QUOTE (Ben-T @ Apr 23 2005, 11:47 PM)
Are you capable of saying anything that does not include unsupported anti-semitic claims? It would appear you are not.
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Benny Redneck,

I only state the facts. Anti-semetism is a myth, it died about 60 years ago when the Nazis regime died!

The zionists are using the "anti-semitism" card to gain sympathy for their political agenda which invloves terrorism against the palestinian people and others. They have also used it to take the focus off of their own crimes, ie, the Lavon Affair, USS Liberty attack, 9/11 attack.

If you want supporting facts about how zionists are involved with the 9/11 attack, just to a search on Google to find out. Type "zionists 9/11" in Google and learn something!
John L
QUOTE ("OsManli")
If you want supporting facts about how zionists are involved with the 9/11 attack, just to a search on Google to find out. Type "zionists 9/11" in Google and learn something!


I have a wonderful idea OsMan. Why don't you do it for us. It should give you immense satisfaction, and keep you out of the bars and off the streets. I have all the faith in you that is needed. wink.gif
Phil
QUOTE (OsManli @ Apr 23 2005, 08:29 PM)
Benny Redneck,

I only state the facts. Anti-semetism is a myth, it died about 60 years ago when the Nazis regime died!

The zionists are using the "anti-semitism" card to gain sympathy for their political agenda which invloves terrorism against the palestinian people and others. They have also used it to take the focus off of their own crimes, ie, the Lavon Affair, USS Liberty attack, 9/11 attack.

If you want supporting facts about how zionists are involved with the 9/11 attack, just to a search on Google to find out. Type "zionists 9/11" in Google and learn something!
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OsManli my friend. You are indebted to the American red neck. If it were not for the actions and influence of the USA in the last century you would not be enjoying the freedoms you now have. BTW - The term "red neck" is not an insult but is a badge of honor to many. I salute them. wink.gif
John L
you see Phil, I am right all along. Osman is indeed a 'diamond in the rough', and worth cultivating. What is important is to keep those who are able to attract much more than they can accomplish by themself. And other than TQ, the OsMan is a great investment. biggrin.gif

Anonymous member? Surely you are not afraid to openly enter your own domain?
Phil
Stealth has it's advantages, does it not? wink.gif
Ben-T
QUOTE (OsManli @ Apr 23 2005, 08:29 PM)
Benny Redneck,

I only state the facts. Anti-semetism is a myth, it died about 60 years ago when the Nazis regime died!

The zionists are using the "anti-semitism" card to gain sympathy for their political agenda which invloves terrorism against the palestinian people and others. They have also used it to take the focus off of their own crimes, ie, the Lavon Affair, USS Liberty attack, 9/11 attack.

If you want supporting facts about how zionists are involved with the 9/11 attack, just to a search on Google to find out. Type "zionists 9/11" in Google and learn something!
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I hail from the tried and true blue state of Massachusetts, and I am related to the Kennedy family. But thank you for the unsupported strawman.

Anti-Semitism is a myth?

The burden of proof is on you, prove it.

The Zionists caused it? Your assertion, your burden of proof. Prove it.

*sits back and waits for the ad hominems and strawmen to fly.*
ustrader
QUOTE
And this is EXACTLY why the right wing lunatics, their pretend jewish zionist friends (masquerading as "conservatives") and all the other Dubya supporters/low-lifes need to be run out of town and
out of the and out of the country
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It’s seems some of your fellow thinkers along that line tried that very same thing from Afghanistan, Iraq and now Iran and Syria but seem to be failing miserably at the effort.

Failing so bad, they instead they were ran out of their town and country and will be where ever they Go.

I suspect soon, even the Canadian’s, my friend, will not welcome you lot there for much longer either.


CATO's Premise:

Main Premise of CATO analysis is short in real life comparison and big on making numbers look big compared to the past without balancing and leveling the table
( No key statistically relevant reference as to these numbers comparatively visa v as of % of GDP inflation adjusted to place the analysis on equally comparative bases.)

For example as a percentage of Average pay a worker made at the end of WWII an Average car cost but a hundreds an average house but a thousands with these expenditure being X% of that average.

Today to compare the average pay and the cost of a car and house to that WWII would show a high differential unless you index for inflation and such. This is using a truth without the realism of meaningful comparison.

CATO main point:

President Bush signed a $417.5 billion defense appropriations bill for fiscal year 2005 on August 5,2004. With the addition of an $82 billion supplemental for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, in real terms U.S. military spending will be at a level exceeded only by that of the waning years of World War II and the height of the Korean War


A Graphical link on the The Truth with the political hyperbolical idiom of our Frozen poster and his linked progogandist.


http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/pdf/dod_toa.pdf



FY04 Budget as % of GDP 19.7%
FY1946 2002 Avg as % GDP 19.5%
FY1994 –2001 (Clinton) as % GDP 19.6%
FY1990 1993 (Bush 41) as % GDP 22%
FY 1982 1989 (Reagan) as % of GDP 22.3%

http://www.taxfoundation.org/2004budgetperspective.html

Defense spending as a % GDP truth from 1940 - go here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy200...ts/hist10z1.xls

Take a look at defense and non-defense spending chained indexed since 1940 and you will see the light that these make my point propaganda-crats see I their darkness of lives existences.

That is all!

P.S. Osilmanli China just surpassed Canada as the US Leading tading partner Those Ford plants are soon to follow you. Do you speak Chinese?
OsManli
QUOTE (ustrader @ Apr 24 2005, 05:28 AM)
It’s seems some of your fellow thinkers along that line tried that very same thing from Afghanistan, Iraq and now Iran and Syria but seem to be failing miserably at the effort.

Failing so bad, they instead they were ran out of their town and country and will be  where ever they Go.

I suspect soon, even the Canadian’s, my friend, will not welcome you lot there for much longer either.
CATO's Premise:

Main Premise of CATO analysis is short in real life comparison and big on making numbers  look big compared to the past without balancing and leveling the table
( No key statistically  relevant reference as to these numbers comparatively visa v as of % of GDP inflation adjusted to  place the analysis on equally comparative bases.)

For example as a percentage of Average pay a worker made at the end of WWII an Average car  cost but a hundreds an average house but a thousands with these expenditure being X% of that  average.

Today to compare the average pay and the cost of a car and house to that WWII would  show a high differential unless you index for inflation and such. This is using a truth without the realism of meaningful comparison.

CATO main point:

President Bush signed a $417.5 billion defense appropriations bill for fiscal year 2005 on August 5,2004. With the addition of an $82 billion supplemental for military operations in Iraq and  Afghanistan, in real terms U.S. military spending will be at a level exceeded only by that of the  waning years of World War II and the height of the Korean War


A Graphical link on the The Truth with the political hyperbolical  idiom of our Frozen poster and his linked progogandist.
http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/pdf/dod_toa.pdf



FY04 Budget as % of GDP                 19.7%
FY1946 2002 Avg as % GDP              19.5%
FY1994 –2001 (Clinton) as % GDP     19.6%
FY1990 1993 (Bush 41) as % GDP      22%
FY 1982 1989 (Reagan) as % of GDP 22.3%

http://www.taxfoundation.org/2004budgetperspective.html

Defense spending as a % GDP truth from 1940 - go here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy200...ts/hist10z1.xls

Take a look at defense and non-defense spending chained indexed since 1940 and you will see the light that these make my point  propaganda-crats see I their darkness of lives existences.

That is all!

P.S. Osilmanli China just surpassed Canada as the US Leading tading partner Those Ford plants are soon to follow you. Do you speak Chinese?
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I really like these funny right wing charts and theories about how USA has no economic problems at at! Too bad people who actually know what they are talking about, say that USA is heading for a disaster, including the Fed's Alan Greenspan who just said that the current budget deficits will run USA into the ground!
The biggest fallacy in this arguement is how GDP is calculated. USA's GDP 20 years ago is not same as today. USA produces less goods and more service. This goes back to my original arguement against those who think an economy will run by doing each other's laundry!

Also,

I would not worry about Canada. We have budget surpluses and enough raw material to supply anyone who wants it, including China.
Ben-T
QUOTE (OsManli @ Apr 24 2005, 05:58 AM)
I really like these funny right wing charts and theories about how USA has no economic problems at at! Too bad people who actually know what they are talking about, say that USA is heading for a disaster, including the Fed's Alan Greenspan who just said that the current budget deficits will run USA into the ground!
The biggest fallacy in this arguement is how GDP is calculated. USA's GDP 20 years ago is not same as today. USA produces less goods and more service. This goes back to my original arguement against those who think an economy will run by doing each other's laundry!

Also,

I would not worry about Canada. We have budget surpluses and enough raw material to supply anyone who wants it, including China.
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Nobody claimed the US does not have economic problems. We simply claimed that your assertions are wrong.

And the best you can do is claim that the charts are right-wing. Brilliant, just brilliant.
John L
Ben, we do not encourage the OsMan to contribute here because he is brilliant, at least in our minds. We encourage him because he is a barrel of laughs, and is a worthy contender to TQ for Stand-up Comedian of the year Award.

What we have here as the ultimate contest between the Jew and the Muslim. Which of the two do you think it ahead? blink.gif tongue.gif
ustrader
My dear Turkish Sir, you knowledge of Ford, as US company that feeds your family, is even less than your lack of knowledge of the economy of the country from which you live ot immigrated.

I will not even bother to explain you illiteracy as to the country you live in.

But if you can count you will see you have no replacement market and that most of the goods and service you produce in Canada are for consumption in the US to circumvent certain tariff and import issues and take advantage of NAFTA which give you 70% of your employment and jobs you have are there.

If could read the graphic you mentioned and the link you would understand these are adjusted figures.


Total Exports United States1
1999- 369,034.9 --309,116.8 (83.76%)
2000- 429,372.2 --359,021.2 (83.62%)
2001- 420,657.1 --352,083.1 (83.7%)
2002- 413,795.3 --347,068.9 (83.87%)
2003- 400,010.0 --330,375.3 (82.59%)
2004- 430,357.6 --351,936.8 (81.78%)

My friend if we in the USA are destine to be washing each other laundry to survive you in Canada will be clean out sewers to just to eat.

So I suggest you educate yourself beyond you anti-american rhetoric as to your owb reality.

Do you know how much of all those profits from imports to the USA, not just from Canada but world wide, are actually going back as profits to US companies and to Americans.

Do your homework. H e l l you feed yourself and family off the back of a US company do you suppos the Chinese who get about 85% of the surplus moneies as Canada from selling products to the USA will be in aposition to buy on of those fords you make if the uS goes down the hole as you wish.

Wake uop and growup my friend we are all now in the same boat if it sinks we all go down with it.


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