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dkward2
This is a Heritage.org article

Congress decided to replace private screening industries for airplanes with government employees. Yea, because we all know how great the government is at running businesses. Now there are tons of complaints, and everyone is calling for a safer system.

On top of that, the Transportation Security Administration is wasting a lot of money. Fraud, corruption, and graft area all occurring, which I expected.

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For instance, last year the agency spent nearly half a million dollars on an awards ceremony, including $81,000 for plaques. It spent over $200,000 for travel and lodging for attendees and $461,745 were spent at the Grand Hyatt in Washington, D.C. where the event took place. And recently, the inspector general report revealed "waste and abuse" in the 2003 construction of the TSA Operation Center in Virginia: Employees bought $500,000 worth of artwork and silk plants and hid the purchases under the label "tool and equipment." They also routinely used government credit cards to buy leather briefcases and other personal items.


What has Bush decided to do about it? Raise taxes on passengers and give more money to the TSA! Ridiculous.
Grizzly
I found this interesting to read in that article:

QUOTE (Heritage.org article)
For instance, last year the agency spent nearly half a million dollars on an awards ceremony, including $81,000 for plaques. It spent over $200,000 for travel and lodging for attendees and $461,745 were spent at the Grand Hyatt in Washington, D.C. where the event took place. And recently, the inspector general report revealed "waste and abuse" in the 2003 construction of the TSA Operation Center in Virginia: Employees bought $500,000 worth of artwork and silk plants and hid the purchases under the label "tool and equipment." They also routinely used government credit cards to buy leather briefcases and other personal items. ...


I also heard their retirement plans rock n roll too! wink.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif
expat
Believe it or not, I have a friend who used to work for some of the higher ups that got promoted to new Airport Sec dept.

Says that they, as a group, are utterly criminal. They're on the take, and, for fun, try to destroy the careers of others but framing them for this or that. Real nice guys. Used to be at police at Staton Island before that.

There is absolutely no reason that these guys should have gotten the position they have. Their record was not exactly, exemplary, before.

That is the real problem... How did they get hired?
dkward2
Good ol' fashioned corruption. Every politician stinks of it. Even Bush and the boys.
expat
Some stink more than others.

When it comes to criminal behaviour, the Bush family has quite a few shady dealings. Jeb and Neil Bush were involved in defrauding Savings and Loans, knowing that their father, the President, would use the US Gov't to bail them out. They were making illegal, secret loans to busniess partners.

They should both be in prison. That is illegal.

George Jr. had his own insider trading scandal erased by his President father.

These are not small things. This is the same kind of behavior as shown by top Bush contributor Kenneth Lay.

The fact that Bush and his brothers are all involved is illegal activities, (even if their President father protected them from the court system) shows a family trait. Add in all the suspect business contacts, and you have something far worse than sleeping around on your wife. (Bush has a history of cocaine and alcohol abuse I do not hold against him)

True, there are a lot of dirty politicians. But the Bushes, as a group, are dirtier than most.

(Sorry for the rant tongue.gif )
dkward2
Maybe as a family you have a point. However, I think the scandal-ridden Clintons have as much, if not more, corruption on their plate. (I'm not talking about a BJ either).

On a side note, the judge who is hearing the trial against the man who lied about Hillary's campaign raising has already absolved Hillary of any knowledge. Who appointed this man? Ah yes, the Clintons did. Who would have thought he'd have already made up his mind before he even heard the trial. Laughable, yet disgusting, that Hillary will get away with another one.
expat
Well, Bush himself only has circumstantial stuff. But the volume of the whole family makes a strong case.

Clinton set records in fundraising back in tha' day, did he not? Of course, they are not only broken but shattered by Bush Jr.....


May I point out, too, that you are assuming the judge is fixing the trial for Hillary (not a bad assumption, IMHO - I have no knowledge of the circumstances, but I doubt that she was 'in the dark') You say it is "disgusting"

On the other hand, you say Diebold "ought to be looked in to".

Not exactly the same response...
dkward2
Valid point. However, I can read the judges own words saying that Hillary didn't know anything about this illegal action. Actually, I'm not sure where to read them, but I have heard them on the radio... Diebold seems to only be a rung up from conspiracy theory.

However, if it is true, it is disgusting. It's just that the idea of a judge appointed by Clinton being friendly to the Clinton's is much more believable than a national conspiracy to steal an election.
expat
Really - the judges own words about Hillary not knowing about it? It is entirely plausible that Hillary was hands on. It is also entirrely plausible that she was kept in the dark about details. Plausible deniability and all. she's got it, even if she probably knew.

Bush has plausible deniability on scores of event much shadier than Hillary's campaign finance problems. (again, I call for complete transparency here) Bush has plausible deniability on his numerous and notable contacts with BCCI. They gave his various companies many "loans". he says "If I had known who they were, I never would have accepted the money." Plausible, but suspect given the number of denials.

You ring this up as a conspiracy theory, but think that Delay is just being picked on by the Dems.

*You hear quotes about Diebold commiting to delivering Ohio's votes to Bush.
*You see that the exit polls show that John Kerry won Ohio. (Exit polls discrepancies are what cause the uprising in Ukraine, BTW -they really are quite accurate, they have been perfectly acceptable up until Florida)
*You see reports about the hackability of the Diebold machines.
*You see internal memos that show the company trying to avoid adding a paper trail. This is something that the company could charge more for! This is something they already have expertise in (ATM machines) Why wouldn't they want to do it?
*You have Diebold getting major contracts from Bush
*plus a lot more. A LOT more.

You have motive, opportunity, expertise, and evidence. You have many historical precedents of voter fraud in America and abroad, even in the Presidential race.

Why is this a rung up from "The UN wants to implant chips to control our reproduction"?
dixon76710
QUOTE (expat @ May 22 2005, 11:15 PM)
Bush has plausible deniability on scores of event much shadier than Hillary's campaign finance problems.  (again,  I call for complete transparency here)  Bush has plausible deniability on his numerous and notable contacts with BCCI.  They gave his various companies many "loans".  he says "If I had known who they were,  I never would have accepted the money."  Plausible,  but suspect given the number of denials. 

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Your pretty free with putting quotation marks around SH#T you make up. MARK
expat
Um, ths pretty much exactly what he said. I shopuld qualify the quote, though - he said something very close to "If I had known who that guy (insert one of a few people, including James Bath, military friend) was, I never would have accepted money from him."

Bush did get a 25 million "loan" from BCCI while they were under investigation by the US Senate, though. As his father is one an extemely well informed guy, and Bush jr's own photographic memory, the "Uh, I dunno" defense is kind of weak, IMHO.
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