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John L
Alright folks the time is quickly approaching. As Mr. Tyrrell has clearly stated, Frist and the Republicans have been taking care of essential business on the Senate floor. And once this 'essential' business if over and done with, it will be time to start the Rumble over Judicial Appointments.

And remember, clearly this is going to set the stage for the appointment later of perhaps two Supreme Court Nominees, maybe even later this year, after the Big Fight in DC is over. Anyway, it is going to be HUGE!!. And it is going to be LOUD!! Senators Reed and Kennedy, along with their minions, will be squeeling like stuck pigs. And keep in mind that a slight majority of Americans are finally showing that they support the Republicans on this. Gonna Be interesting.

One thing is for sure. It will be the best sitcom, or Soap Opra right after the Third episode III. Here is the article, and it is really a good one. ENJOY! :shock: tongue.gif
Grizzly
Yeah, I'm ready. Should be interesting!

Found some interesting history on the origin of who coined the term, "nuclear option".

QUOTE ( Media Matters for America)
Media adopts false claim that "nuclear option" is a Democratic term

Major media outlets have recently miscast the term "nuclear option" as a creation of Senate Democrats. These include even National Public Radio (NPR), the Los Angeles Times, and the New York Times, all of which had previously reported accurately that it was Senate Republicans who originated the term.

As several weblogs have noted, the term "nuclear option" -- referring to the Republican-proposed Senate rule change that would prohibit filibusters of judicial nominations -- was coined by one of its leading advocates, Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS). But since Republican strategists judged the term "nuclear option" to be a liability, they have urged Senate Republicans to adopt the term "constitutional option." Many in the media have complied with the Senate Republicans' shift in terminology and repeated their attribution of the term "nuclear option" to the Democrats.


Go here

QUOTE ( John L)
And keep in mind that a slight majority of Americans are finally showing that they support the Republicans on this. Gonna Be interesting.


I found this to be interesting too!

QUOTE ( hannity.com)
WASHINGTON - Republicans took a step Thursday toward a Senate confrontation over filibusters of President Bush’s judicial nominees by advancing two of the White House’s favored — and most controversial — candidates for prospective votes.

But private Republican polling shows scant support for a plan to stop minority Democrats from blocking such nominees, officials said Thursday.

By sending Texas judge Priscilla Owen and California judge Janice Rogers Brown to the full Senate for confirmation, GOP senators now have two of the candidates they want to use to challenge the Democrats’ threat to filibuster U.S. appeals courts candidates. “We have now the vehicle. We have two qualified women. They have met every test,” said Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas.

Officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said a recent survey taken for Senate Republicans showed 37 percent support for the GOP plan to deny Democrats the ability to filibuster judicial nominees, while 51 percent oppose.


hannity.com article

There still seems to be some that are a tad bit uncomfortable with this, John. wink.gif
Ben-T
The Filibuster should remain in place as a option for Congress.

The GOP should simply use the Nuclear Option to blow these annoying liberals out of the water.
dkward2
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There still seems to be some that are a tad bit uncomfortable with this, John. 
The article is older than the new poll numbers. Hannity was accurately reporting for the time. However, new polls have come out saying differently. I could care less about polls, but I thought I would explain the article. Leaders should lead, not follow.

I remember reading all about "picking the low-hanging fruits" at the beginning of this year. I think they Reps have done well. You are right; politics is better than any soap. I'm getting excited.
Grizzly
QUOTE (dkward2 @ May 16 2005, 09:39 AM)
However, new polls have come out saying differently. 
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Perhaps you can show us a new, believable poll that shows a drastic change? huh.gif

*Seeing dkward running to some conservative web site (perhaps Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter?) to get this information!* rolleyes.gif laugh.gif
dkward2
I'm lazy and hoping John will find the poll numbers. After some quick Googling I have given up. Like I said, lazy. I agreed with John because I have listened to news reports on these polls showing that a slight majority (like 51-53%) of America supports ending the filibuster.

There are plenty of people saying the original poll questions were skewed to create more opposition than actually exists. This is from FOX News:

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Post/ABC News poll asked, "Would you support or oppose changing Senate rules to make it easier for the Republicans to confirm Bush's judicial nominees?"

To that, 66 percent said no. If you doubt whether the framing of a poll question can influence the outcome, consider this: When a Republican poll said, "Even if they disagree with a judge, Senate Democrats should at least allow the President's nominations to be voted on," 81 percent said they agreed.
I think it speaks for itself. So much for polls.

I will entertain the idea that polls say the majority of the nation is opposed to ending the filibuster. However, I will again state that I do not concern myself with polls. I don't want leaders who try to poll everything, even where they should vacation (Bill Clinton). I think ending the filibuster for judicial nominees means that the will of the people will no longer be thwarted.

The only thing worse than the tyranny of the majority is the tyranny of the minority.
PISSED OFF AMERICAN
Here is the latest polling on the mnuclear option. It comes fromURL=http://www.pollingreport.com]My Webpage[/URL]


Time Poll conducted by Schulman, Ronca & Bucuvalas (SRBI) Public Affairs. May 10-12, 2005. N=1,011 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.
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"Some Republicans in the Senate want to eliminate the ability of Democrats to use the filibuster, or extended debate, to block the Senate from voting on some of President Bush's judicial nominees. Do you think the Republicans should or should not be able to eliminate the filibuster in this case?"
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Should be able to eliminate: 28%

Should not be able to eliminate: 59%

Unsure: 14%
dixon76710
QUOTE (Grizzly @ May 16 2005, 07:16 AM)
Perhaps you can show us a new, believable poll that shows a drastic change? huh.gif

*Seeing dkward running to some conservative web site (perhaps Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter?) to get this information!rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif
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Nothings changed. Different poll questions get different results.

"Would you support or oppose changing Senate rules to make it easier for the Republicans to confirm Bush's judicial nominees?" you get 37/51 against. Wow! wouldnt that be one hell of a Senate rule, just for "Republicans" and "Bush's judicial nominees"??? Stupid question.
Different question gets different answers.
"... a Rasmussen survey found that when asked "should the Senate rules be changed so that a vote must be taken on every person that the President nominates to become a judge?", 56 percent responded affirmatively.
http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2005/cyb20050503.asp

MARK
Grizzly
Here is what I received from a CNN email; I clicked on that link and I went here.

Seems that there are 4 lawmakers that are still feeling for their constituency's thought and feelings on this matter.
dixon76710
QUOTE (Grizzly @ May 16 2005, 11:49 AM)
Here is what I received from a CNN email; I clicked on that link and I went here.

Seems that there are 4  lawmakers that are still feeling for their constituency's thought and feelings on this matter.
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"still feeling for their constituency's" ???????? You just made that up and convinced yourself it was a given fact, all in one step. MARK
Grizzly
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ May 16 2005, 04:35 PM)
"still feeling for their constituency's" ???????? You just made that up and convinced yourself it was a given fact, all in one step.    MARK
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Well, I will admit that my comment was speculative, but...

QUOTE ( CNN article)
"We feel that there are at least four Republican senators who feel as we do and we feel that there are several who are making up their minds at the last moment," said Durbin, D-Illinois. "It is a critical question and it's one that goes to constitutional values."


Mark: why would four lawmakers still be up in the air over this thing? You know the way these people work: Aides tell how many phone calls and letters that they (lawmakers) received (the way the people think or what they want) and they act accordingly. You have to admit that process is real! Also, you can't rule out their own feelings and thoughts about the legal process!
dkward2
New news:
Harry Reid is saying he may be able to compromise by letting the first two judges (or maybe only one) go through if he is allowed to block some. Basically, he wants to say "out of these 7 judges, we will let 4-5 go through."

I hope no Reps bite on this. It is obviously a last-ditch effort by a man afraid he doesn't have the votes to counter the nuclear option. If Republicans won at the ballot box, they deserve 100% of the judges. If the people don't like who they nominate, they will lose at the ballot box next time.

The simple fact is, never before has the filibuster been threatened/used so routinely to stop so many judges. We can nit pick over individual cases and whether or not the judge in question had support in the Senate or not, but it doesn't matter. The Dems are in a corner and don't want to give up their "power through judicial fiat."
otto
Geeze folks. Read johns post again. This aint about a few federal judges its about the SUPREME COURT! Theres a ton of fed judges out there but only 9 supremes. And they got the last word. Now is the time to shift the balance back to the right.
dkward2
Like the sig otto.

While I do think the Supreme Court is the most important, the issue does include Federal Judge Appointments...
But, the reason why I responded was to say that federal judges make a difference as well. Especially appellate court judges. I say get ‘em all! He11, at least vote on 'em all.
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