http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20...n/132550/nc:742

You really gotta follow the rules, OsManli.
We're obligated to include a few words of our own when posting links.
Thank you!

By means of rebuttal tho...

You Know It's Getting Bad For the Mainstream Media...
...when even Garfield is on to them:

Scroll down here - just past Miss Guyana!

Actually we "Right Wing Loons" were horrified that Newsweek had posted a story without checking their sources and that it had resulted in the deaths of Seventeen innocent people.

Deaths the Left has seemingly taken a certain delight from. And I know OsManli must have, for he is a man who is delighted to see innocents die no matter the circumstances.

If anyone's wondering, this is a cover - not a cartoon and thanks to National Review for their accurate picture of MSM.

That really does seems to be the unfortunate truth of the matter.
And these terrorist "pond scum" try their best to manipulate the media to their favor. (unsuccessfully I'm afraid, but they keep trying for lack of any real positive creative spirit)

Greg, there really isn't much the OsMan really can say here. All he can do is either put out some stand-up comedy or post a link. If he does not write anything at least we will not get any of the "right wing moron" sort of thing.

D@mn those traitors at Newsweek! They should have found reliable sources like Ahmed Chalabi, or a college student who could give them a term paper to plagiarise!

I do not condone the desecration of anyone's "holy book", whether it be the Bible or the Koran, but... Maybe the "message" is that "you terrorists think you are so big and bad, well us Americans can be just as nasty, and we know how and where to hit you as well".

Does that make it right? No. But maybe we're just sick and tired of being pushed around by a bunch of bullying low-life thugs who want to indiscriminately kill anyone in their way, that hate any other religion other than their own, abuse their own women, and--worse than that--actually encourage their own young to blow themselves up, all in the course of pursuing their own sick and twisted political and financial gain.

Now--WHICH IS WORSE? That? --or flushing a copy of someone's "holy book" down a toilet?

Um.... I'd say killing hundreds of thousands based on lies is probably worse.

Oh? And where did you get that figure? From Osmanli? There has been no accurate tally of Iraqi dead--prove me wrong with an "official" count of the dead (and again, not from some idiot blogger somewhere, with an obvious anti-American agenda).

--oh, wait--I see, you're talking about the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people that SADDAM killed and raped and buried alive in the sand, indiscriminately and for fun and profit, right?

Get your facts (and your head) straight, smart guy: the Americans, the British and the rest of the coalition has been as careful as possible to reduce unnecessary deaths to a minimum. It's been the exact opposite for the terrorist Islamofacists, who bomb indiscriminately--men--women--children, Muslims/Christians/Jews--it makes no difference.

..Their undying, unending hatred is what has started this mess, in the first place.

There is growing evidence that the Newsweek article was correct.

FBI records detail Koran claims

BBC World News


An inmate at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp accused US guards of flushing a Koran down the toilet back in 2002, declassified FBI documents reveal.

The disclosure follows a row over a similar claim made in Newsweek, which the magazine was forced to retract.

The Newsweek claims sparked protests across the Muslim world, and riots in Afghanistan that killed 15 people.

The Pentagon said last week it had seen "no credible and specific allegations" about putting a Koran in a toilet.

Newsweek last week apologised for, and then retracted its report, after saying it could not corroborate the story.

The White House rounded on the magazine, saying its report had done "lasting damage" to the US image in the Muslim world.

But the FBI documents made public on Wednesday, after a request from the human rights group American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), show that such allegations had been made at Guantanamo Bay.

After interviewing a detainee, an unnamed FBI agent wrote on 1 August 2002: "Personally, he has nothing against the United States. The guards in the detention facility do not treat him well. Their behaviour is bad.

"About five months ago, the guards beat the detainees. They flushed a Koran in the toilet.

"The guards dance around when the detainees are trying to pray. The guards still do these things."

Guantanamo 'gulag'

The ACLU said the documents showed the Pentagon was aware of such allegations being made at Guantanamo Bay long ago, but had repeatedly turned a blind eye to "mounting evidence of widespread abuse".

The Pentagon did not immediately comment on the documents, but officials have said recently that various claims made by former detainees have been proved false.

Officials say they have begun comparing detainee complaints to see if any are corroborated.

ACLU lawyer Jameel Jaffer said: "Unfortunately, one thing we've learned over the last couple of years is that detainee statements about their treatment at Guantanamo and other detention centres sometimes have turned out to be more credible than US government statements."

Other FBI documents released on Wednesday detailed further accusations, including one by a detainee who said a female interrogator wiped his face with her menstrual blood.

Meanwhile Amnesty International urged the US to shut Guantanamo Bay, calling it "the gulag of our time".

In a report the group said the US had undermined human rights across the world, by trying to "redefine and sanitise torture".

The White House dismissed the report as "ridiculous and unsupported".

Spokesman Scott McClellan said allegations of mistreatment were being investigated.

More than 500 people are being held at Guantanamo Bay, the US naval base on Cuba, suspected of links to the al-Qaeda network.

Some have been detained for more than three years, but have not been charged.

So you're saying that anyone who bothers to count the Iraqi dead has an "obvious anti-American agenda?

Where'd you get your Saddam figure? From an "official" and "unbiased" source, I'm sure?

Screw the war, how about the half million dead by sanctions by Madeline Albrights own admission? (oh, but that was a Democrat, so it doesn't count, right?)

Madeline didnt make any admission and the 500,000 claim is U.N. BS. Pointles speculation and extrapolation that was shown to be bogus when they finished the study and found that in the North, under the sanctions, child mortality rates actually IMPROVED under the UN sanctions. MARK

Maybe nobody has paused to notice, but those Qu'rans were US Federal Government property, paid for with the taxpayer dollars of United States citizens.

There is nothing morally wrong with flushing them down the toilet. The only problem with this is that it created a PR fiasco in the Middle East, and it was a dumbass thing to do.

If it was "UN BS"... then why didn't she deny it during the interview? Not only does she not deny it, she claims it was "worth it".



Perhaps you can point me to the study you refered to.

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So are you saying that this incident DID occur?

I am saying that if it did occur, I do not care except insomuch as it is a PR fiasco. I have no MORAL qualms with it if it did happen. What I do have moral qualms with is that US taxpayer dollars are going to buying Qu'rans for possible terrorists.