can anyone explain to me, how and why is it so: US trumpets and praises democracy around the whole world, critisises those who according to them diminish it; at the same time - Democrates as Party in US politics are mocked, rediculed, and called names ....


our fellow mate GOP4life especially loves them.


so, isn't it a contraditcion? or am I too thick ?

or perhaps other countries should become democratic, not the one which promotes it ?

Just because the socialists in our country call themselves Democrats doesn't make us hypocrites for rejecting their agenda. It is understandable that you are unfamiliar with our history, but realize that, while I won't say you are stupid, the answer to your question is: you are uniformed.

Just one quick point I'll make to illustrate. If they were truly Democrats, then they wouldn't support the filibuster of judicial nominees. They would support majority rule, even to the point of a "tyranny of the majority."

America is not a democracy, and Democrats are not pro-democracy.

Yes its hypocritical and a contradiction for them to use the name "Democrats"
Liberals would be a more accurate name. MARK

And the term liberal, is that not a contradiction & hyporcritcal?

What is so liberal about them? Nothing as far as I can see.

They're just as authortarian as the so called "conservatives".

Try this people:

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

And what is so conservative about the conservatives? Nothing! There is nothing conservative about the largest budget in the history of the world!

Well, we set a record for the "largest budget in the history of the world!" almost every year so Im not sure of your point.
And I said "more accurate" than Democratic.
Was reading up on Uzbekistan, the Communist party there is now called the People's Democratic Party. Similiar mismatch. MARK

alright, thanks for explanation. although it is still a bit murky - why won't such a developed society as world's leading nation allow such mismatches and not somehow correct it - say, use whatever laws to make them change their name - to liberals or socialists or whatever is more appropriate.

that much I've understood - that they are not real democrats. and thanks for preserving my face by saying that I'm uninformed, coz it is realy so.

yet there are some other Qs, for example: who are real democrates than, if there are any such ?

and more interestingly - would be good to know your explanation of another "mismatch", particularly based on the first part your own statement :

America is not a democracy, and Democrats are not pro-democracy.

well then, if it is not - than how it can expect, not to speak impose (let's be blunt) democracy on other nations?

I mean - it is an old motto (I was told it is sort of some english proverb): "you can talk but you can't preach untill you practice what you teach." or something like that. same like father can hardly convince his son that smoking is bad while he himself continues smoking ....

so, I think such a "mismatch" is much harder to fix than the minor one about "Democrats". coz democracy is a main agenda used for US's foreign policies nowdays and to justify many its serious actions.

You also are pretty good at running up the deficit too!

The United States is a Democratic Republic.

Democrats and Republicans are both originally descended from a party founded by Thomas Jefferson, then known as "The Democratic-Republican Party." Though Republicans of today also find strong ties to the Whig party of yesteryear.

Both parties support Democracy as a concept, neither is against it.

And for further information the United States is a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC.

The United States is a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC:

e·moc·ra·cy Audio pronunciation of "Democracy" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-mkr-s)
n. pl. de·moc·ra·cies

1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.
REPUBLIC

5 entries found for Republic.
re·pub·lic Audio pronunciation of "Republic" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-pblk)
n.

1.
1. A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president.
2. A nation that has such a political order.
2.
1. A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
2. A nation that has such a political order.
3. often Republic A specific republican government of a nation: the Fourth Republic of France.
4. An autonomous or partially autonomous political and territorial unit belonging to a sovereign federation.
5. A group of people working as equals in the same sphere or field: the republic of letters.


Democrats and Republicans are both originally descended from a party founded by Thomas Jefferson, then known as "The Democratic-Republican Party." Though Republicans of today also find strong ties to the Whig party of yesteryear.

Both parties support Democracy as a concept, neither is against it. Both parties recognize that the United States is a Democratic Republic.

Well, a democratic republic is more accurate than a democracy, but still not quite there. What America is, and what we try to set up around the world: a Constitutional Republic.

This is basically representative democracy with a muzzle. The Constitution exists to protect the minority from what the founding fathers (of America) feared most: the Tyranny of the Majority. The founding fathers knew from example that, without a constitution, democracies usually led to mob rule.

It was important that Iraq agree on a constitution so that it could not become an Islamic fundamentalist state. It may still base its laws around basic Islamic principles, but, with a good constitution, they won't be able to take advantage of non-Muslims.

One illustration of the differences that I've heard knocked around goes something like this:

Democracy: 3 wolves and 2 sheep voting on what's for dinner.
Constitutional Republic: 3 wolves and 2 sheep voting on what to eat with law protecting the sheep.

That's not exactly how it goes, but the main point isn't lost...

We have freedom of speech in America. They can call themselves anything they like. MARK