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Mossad & 911 - US Becomes
Zionist Beast Of Burden
An Independent Investigation Of 911
And The War On Terrorism
By Dr. Albert D. Pastore PhD
5-26-5

The Hebrew Inscription On The Mossad Logo Reads - "By Way Of Deception Thou Shalt Do War"

We have reviewed how the Zionists used and discarded Germany. Then they used and discarded Great Britain. After World War II, it was clear that the chief remaining global power was the United States. Now the USA had never had any problem with the Arab people, and had no reason to quarrel with the Arabs. For the Zionists to maintain and expand the support they were receiving from America, it would benefit them greatly if the Arabs and the mighty US could somehow become enemies. Could the Zionists possibly stoop so low? Why not? Look at what they had already pulled off! Remember that the official motto of the Mossad (Israel's intelligence organization) is "by way of deception thou shalt do war." (1)

In 1955, one of these "false flag" operations was publicly exposed for the world to see. Israeli agents, impersonating Arab terrorists, were caught staging a series of bombings against American installations in Egypt. (2) When this conspiracy was exposed, it ultimately created such a controversy that it brought down the Israeli government. The long since forgotten scandal became known as "the Lavon Affair".

Then again during a 1967 war with the Arabs, Israeli gunboats and fighter jets deliberately attacked the USSTHE BADLY DAMAGED USS LIBERTY. A DELIBERATE ACT OF MURDER Liberty, an unarmed US communications ship. (3) Thirty five American sailors were murdered and 170 others injured in a prolonged Israeli onslaught - carried out in broad daylight and with the U.S. flag flying prominently. The intent was to kill all the Americans and then leave the Egyptians to take the blame. The Israelis finally broke off the attack when they thought that US fighters were on the way to help. Israel denied that the attack was deliberate but the chilling stories of the lucky American survivors clearly contradict that lie. To this very day, the U.S. Congress has never investigated the USS Liberty massacre.

In the 1980's, the Israelis once again succeeded in framing enemy Arabs in order to enrage America. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrosvky became so disgusted with the criminal behavior of his own government that he defected from the Mossad. Ostrovsky tried to warn America of just how evil and murderous the Mossad actually was. Ostrovsky revealed exactly how the Israelis framed Libya for the bombing of a German night club which killed American servicemen. (4) It was this frame up job that caused President Reagan to bomb Libya in 1986, killing the 4 year old daughter of Libyan leader Muamar Qadhafi.

France refused to allow US bombers to fly over their air space and bomb Libya. A wave of anti-French sentiment swept across America. I can still recall demonstrations of angry American "patriots" dumping bottles of French wine, and radio hosts urging listeners to boycott French goods. Ignoramuses throughout America (including this writer I'm ashamed to say!) shrieked: "We bailed those Frenchies out of two World Wars and this is how they thank us!" But the reason that France refused to cooperate with the deadly US bombing raid was because French intelligence knew that Libya had been framed by the Israelis.

Ostrovsky, whose 1990 tell-all book, By Way of Deception, infuriated the Mossad and made him the target of numerous death threats. (5) Among some of Ostrovosky's other amazing revelations are:

* The Mossad recruits Arab agents to carry out missions.

* Israeli agents are skilled at impersonating Arabs.

* Mossad had an elaborate plan to vilify Iraq and involve the US in a war against it.

* MOSSAD knew in advance of the 1983 Arab surprise attack on US Marines based in Lebanon. Instead of warning their American "allies", Mossad deliberately allowed more than 200 US Marines to be killed in the surprise bombing attack.

* Wealthy Zionists in America are often called upon to help carry out Mossad missions.

In 2001, the Washington Times ran a story about a 68 page research paper issued by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS). The research was compiled by 60 US Army officers as an attempt to predict the possible outcomes of deploying a US force to maintain peace between the Israel and Palestinians. Here's what SAMS had to say about the Israeli military machine:

"a 500 pound gorilla in Israel. Well armed and trained. Operates in both Gaza and the West Bank. Known to disregard international law to accomplish mission"(6)

Of Israel's Mossad, the officers issued this warning:

"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian Arab act." (7) (emphasis added)

Why does the US, which is trillions of dollars in debt, give away billons of taxpayer dollars to a foreign government whose military violates international laws and whose Mossad is capable of murdering US troops in order to frame Arabs? Have we lost our minds?

Footnotes

1. Victor Ostrovsky. By Way of Deception. Google users enter: mossad motto

2.The Gun and the Olive Branch. By David Hirst. Google users enter: lavon affair

3. Assault on Liberty. By James M Ennes Jr. Google users enter: ennes uss liberty

4. Ostrovsky. How How Mossad got America to bomb Libya and fight Iraq. Google users enter: ostrovsky how mossad got america

5. Ostrovsky. The Contrasting Media Treatment of Israeli and Islamic Death Threats. Google users enter: Ostrovsky death threats

6. The Washington Times. Army Study Suggests U.S. Force of 20,000. By Rowan Scarborough. September 10, 2001. Google users enter: army study suggests sams rowan scarborough

7. Ibid

This article also lends credence to the assertions of the above author, as well as your previous thread:

http://www.ameu.org/printer.asp?iid=36&aid=72#content

Iraq circa Late 80s to early 90s = A radically different place in terms of economic and military capabilities from Iraq circa 2003.

Israel recruits arabs to complete missions for it? What should be surprising about that, Arabs can become Israeli citizens just like anyone else.

BTW, we have a conspiracy theory forum for a reason. It's for posting theories about conspiracies.

You guys still lack probable cause OH WAIT NO! DON'T POINT OUT FLAWS IN OS' OR TRUTH'S ARGUMENT! IF YOU DO THAT MEANS YOUR BEING MEAN! CANT DO THAT NOW!

First you make a completely vague statement about Iraq that really doesn't have any point to it, then, of five bullet points, you were able to make a half-assed response to one, which totally ignored the substance of the fact. Perhaps you missed the other four:

* Israeli agents are skilled at impersonating Arabs.

* Mossad had an elaborate plan to vilify Iraq and involve the US in a war against it.

* MOSSAD knew in advance of the 1983 Arab surprise attack on US Marines based in Lebanon. Instead of warning their American "allies", Mossad deliberately allowed more than 200 US Marines to be killed in the surprise bombing attack.

* Wealthy Zionists in America are often called upon to help carry out Mossad missions.

Where is the "conspiracy theory" in either of our posts? These are articles written about people's experiences, some written by a defector Mossad agent. YOU have the THEORY that they are lies, with no evidence that can refute their claims. Just vague opinionistic assertions.

"What's that? This article is sourced and referenced? Some of the claims are made by a former Mossad agent? That's just a conspiracy theory! If it contradicts any single aspect of my teenage worldview, it must be a conspiracy theory!"

You haven't pointed out any flaws in our arguments, just your opinion of what the vague philosophical flaws would/could/should be if the official story were true, so I'm not worried.

What, exactly, is the "probable cause" for simple people living in a third world country to bring down upon them the wrath of the mightiest military on the planet? Oh, I forgot, everyone else needs to explain themselves. You just get to spout off.

The fact that they loath the United States of American and want it out of their region of the world, as it serves a block for the Islamist Revolution that they seek to bring about over the entire greater Middle East? Oh, yeah, and they think they can win. Hey, nobody ever said that they were smart.

Oh right I forgot, Osama Bin Laden declared war on the United States in the 1990s. 9/11 was not an isolated incident, it was the climax of a long string of terrorist attacks against the US, Americans abroad, and/or US interests abroad.

You don't have to prove to me that Israel has it's own interests at heart. I am not much more fond of Israel than the next guy, in fact the only nation on Earth I particuarly care about protecting is the United States of America. I simply recognize they are a valuable ally. What you do have to prove to me is that A.) The Mossad was behind 9.11 and B.) Israel was behind the 2003 War in Iraq. In 1917 the United States of America had a plan to start an improptu Naval war with Great Britain in the wake of World War I in order to secure domination of trans-atlantic trade routes. Not every plan exactly pans out.

ESPECIALLY considering the fact that though Iraq posed a serious danger to Israel in the late 80s and early 90s, it posed no such danger in 2003. Maybe Israel was behind Operation: Desert Storm? Oh, oh, I know! Saddam Hussein is one of them sneaky Jews, he just took on the roll of the head of Iraq so that he could invade Kuwait and involve the US in a war against Iraq, so that..um...CUZ THEIR JEWS AND THEIR SNEAKY LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!

All any of the rest of you're points prove is that the Mossad is a competent intelligence agency.

* MOSSAD knew in advance of the 1983 Arab surprise attack on US Marines based in Lebanon. Instead of warning their American "allies", Mossad deliberately allowed more than 200 US Marines to be killed in the surprise bombing attack.

Yes they did. They support Israeli interests, not American ones. However we both still mutually benefit from being allies, so we should continue being allies.

Make no mistake that when I say "Allies" I do not mean "Friends" I mean a Mutually beneficial relationship.

* MOSSAD knew in advance of the 1983 Arab surprise attack on US Marines based in Lebanon. Instead of warning their American "allies", Mossad deliberately allowed more than 200 US Marines to be killed in the surprise bombing attack.

: I have been looking into Mr Ovstrovsky, and he is more than a little supsicious. At this point, and I havent done enough research to come to a final conclusion yet, he seems to just be one rogue ex-Mossad agent running around making claims he can't corraberate about a world Jewish conspiracy to further the interests of Israel. Sorry but, what exactly is he evidencing to make these claims other than his own personal testimonials?I mean just the basic supposition that there is a network of Jews all over the world standing ready to do the bidding of Israel smacks of the kind of stuff you would read in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. As far as death threats against him, the only group I could find corroberating that claim was station called "Radio Islam"

Do you by any chance have some sites I could read up on to check this stuff out? Sites that were NOT made for the express audience of those who already believe in the theories they are pushing?

For a man who purports himself to love Israel, Mr Ovstrovsky sure does say some odd things about her, describing her as :

"A nightmare of prejudice, wallowing in racism and waving the white and blue flag of repression."

"Where no counsel is, the people fell, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety."
Proverbs XI/14





Yo, My constipation-ist fellows, Taste of Derision and the imaginary Ottoman artiste jester, here is a link just for you.

https://www.mossad.gov.il/Mohr/MohrTopNav/M...pplicationForm/





That is all!

Aw... whatsa matter? Can't find a "debunker" site?

No actually I was looking for things to CORRABERATE his claims, not debunk them.

So far I have been unsuccesfull. But at this point I shouldn't be surprised that you immediately leap to the defensive whenever the most basic questions are asked about you're viewpoints. It seems to throw a monkey wrench into your whole system really.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Basic questions throw a monkey wrentch into my system, and you still can't tell me what EO199i is.

You can't establish probable cause.

You operate based on a logical fallacy. Just because a hypothesis cannot be disproven does not mean that the hypothesis is true. Burden of proof is on you, that means it is up to you to prove your hypothesis, not up to me to disprove it.

And you refuse to take even the first step towards doing that.

OBL did not "declare war on the US", he declared war on US military targets inside the Holy Land (Saudi Arabia), rightly so, USA has NO BUSINESS on Saudi soil (sand). So did OBL do Kobar? maybe, Cole? less likely, African Embassies? NO, there is no motive, 9/11? ABSOLUTELY NOT, first off, it would not serve anyone's interests except israel and the USA to attack the muslim world, second, he has no capability.

The right wing myth that "islamists" have been waging war since "the 70's" is a myth of grand proportion. Muslims only want to be left alone, the sad story is the the zionists and americans have other plans!

That is all!

Double post.

Muslims only want to be left alone, haha, funny. Good one. Dating back to the life of Mohammed and continuing onward The Islamic Establishment has been fiercely expansionistic.

Muslim's don't want to be "left alone" They are just pissed off that Europe industrialized early and that they lost.

Or maybe you could tell the people of Spain that Muslims just want to be left alone? After all, the Islamic Moors ruled them for centuries.

Maybe the people of France? The Moors tried to take them under their wing as well, though everyone's favirote Frank, Charles Martel, stopped that from happening.

How about the people of Jerusalem who had been living as they had for centuries, peacefully, under the rule of the Byzantine Emperor, until the Islamic Empire swept in to conquer them, thus beginning centuries of war between Christendom and the Islamic Empire.

Maybe the Arabs of the world will tell you how the Islamic Ottoman Turks rode out from Constantinople to conquer and subjugate them for centuries.

Muslims want to be left alone? Don't make me laugh. The Islamic World was a power just as fierce, imperialistic, and expansionistic as the western one up until The Ottoman's involvement in World War I saw the fall of their dynasty once and for all.

I've repeatedly pointed you to one of the single best examples that unequivocally establishes "probable cause", but you repeatedly ignore it or dismiss the organization, whose founding members were Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and Jeb Bush. It's membership has also included Zalmay Kahlilzad (Special Envoy to Afghanistan and Iraq), Douglas Feith (Under Sec. of Defense for Policy), Richard Armitiage (Deputy Sec. of State), Lewis Libby (Chief of Staff to VP Cheney), John Bolton (Under Sec. for Arms Conrol & Int’l Security, and possible ambassador to the UN), James Woolsey (member, Pentagon Defense Policy Board), Richard Perle (former member, Defense Policy Advisory Board), and Elliot Abrams (Special Asst. to the President). Remember, these are the folks you said don't have control over US foreign policy.

Here's what PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses" document had to say in the year 2000:

This then could be evidence that 9/11 was masterminded by The Project for The New American Century.

Or it could be evidence that they quite simply were right in prophesizing that Clintonesque non-interventionism would lead to something such as 9/11. Especially considering that the chain of events that followed OBL's declaration of war on America, manifested by his attacks, each of ever growing magnitude, would eventually lead to a strike on a scale comperable to 9/11.

In the NeoCon Reader, in an essay written by, William Kristol and Robert Kagan predict accurately nearly every major event on the foreign stage that has developed in the 21st century.

Quoting:

"In the face of the moral and strategic challenges confronting it, the United States engaged in a gradual but steady moral and strategic disarmament. Rather than seek to unseat the dangerous dictatorships in Baghdad and Belgrade, The Clinton Administration combined empty threats and ineffectual military operations with diplomatic accomodation. Rather than press hard for changes of regime in Pyongyand and Beijing, The Clinton Administration-and in the case of China, the Bush administration before it-tried to purchase better behavior through "engagement". Rather than confronting the moral and strategic challenges presented by these evil regimes, the United States tried to do business with them in pursuit of "stability". Rather than squarely facing our world responsibilities, American political leaders chose drift and evasion.

In the meantime, the United States has allowed it's military capabilities to drift to the point where it's ability to defend its interests and deter future threats is now in doubt. From 1989 to 1999, the defense budget and the size of the Armed Forces were cut by a third; The share of America's GNP devoted to defense spending was halved, from nearly six to around three percent; and the amount of money spent on weapons procurement and research and development declined about fifty per cent. There was indeed a "peace dividend", and as a result, by the end of the decade, the US militar was inadequatly equipped and stretched to the point of exhaustion. And while defense experts spend the 1990s debating whether it was more important to maintain current readiness or sacrifice present capabilities in order to prepare for future challenges, the United States, under the strain of excessive budget cuts, did neither.

Yet ten years from now, and perhaps a good deal sooner, we will likely be living in a world in which Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and China all possess the ability to strike the continental United States with nuclear weapons. Within the next decade we may have to decide whether to defend Taiwan against Chinese attack. We could face another attempt by a rearmed Saddam Hussein to seize Kuwait's oil fields. An authoritarian regime in Russia could move to reclaim some of what it lost in 1991."

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The fact of the matter remains that 9/11 was no isolated and mysterious prediction that the NeoCons were suspiciously right about. Neoconservatives have been correct about nearly every major foreign policy development for the last 2.5 decades, and for a period of time not much shorter than that, every serious Foreign Policy analyst in the United States whose last name isn't Chomsky has realized that Neoconservatives are right and have long been right about the workings of US foreign policy.

Suspicious prophecy or only one, and certainly not the first, in a long line of accurate Foreign Policy predictions made by Neoconservatives?

I say the latter.