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Thaiquila
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file.../GILLENKIRK.TMP

I especially like the part of the Old Jesus vs the New Jesus.
Grizzly
Great article, Thaiquila! laugh.gif

That guy is good! Good humor! laugh.gif

Actually, I believe that money, or the promise of power, are two major reasons that a minority of Democrats swing over to the GOP! ph34r.gif
Ben-T
The Democratic Party's lack of any kind of serious party platform besides "We aren't Bush" might have something to do with it.
Thaiquila
We aren't bush is a pretty powerful message.
Ben-T
Indeed. And one that lead to a total Republican Victory in the 2004 elections, and the GOP controlling every branch of the American Government.
Thaiquila
So you got the power. Now what are you gonna do with it?
Grizzly
QUOTE (Ben-T @ May 29 2005, 04:38 PM)
Indeed. And one that lead to a total Republican Victory in the 2004 elections, and the GOP controlling every branch of the American Government.
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Ben: I especially liked this from that article:

QUOTE ( Jeff Gillenkirk )
...Bush was re-elected with the smallest electoral margin of any sitting president in history,...


How true it is! tongue.gif
Ben-T
And then do you have an answer for the Republican coup in the House of Representatives? The Republican Coup in the Senate? The Republican Coup in the US' gubernatorial seats?
Grizzly
QUOTE (Ben-T @ May 29 2005, 06:06 PM)
And then do you have an answer for the Republican coup in the House of Representatives? The Republican Coup in the Senate? The Republican Coup in the US' gubernatorial seats?
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No. But I do think that what is going on in the House and the Senate is fantastic!
GOP lawmakers are finding out that their constituents aren't completely conservative.

(My theory is that the GOP made it in because of the religious right pushing those 11 marriage admendments throughout the country.) popcorn.gif
Ben-T
Of course. Flaws in the Democratic Party platform could NEVER be the reason why they weren't elected.

But hey keep going with that if you ask me. It will result in a continuation of the long-going trend of the Democratic Party being on the losing side of elections.

Currently you are right, what is going on in Congress is "amazing" for Democrats. Mainly because people like John McCain are so willing to stab their own party in the back in order to gain a points with the media.

The democrats won and the American people were deprived of their right to have judges given an up or down vote.

It really is sad, every time the Democrats win a battle in this country we move a little farther away from being a Constitutional Republic and a little closer to operating off of a system of Benevolent Despotism in a black robe.
Grizzly
QUOTE ( Ben-T)
Currently you are right, what is going on in Congress is "amazing" for Democrats. Mainly because people like John McCain are so willing to stab their own party in the back in order to gain a points with the media.


So you think what happened to John McCain during his first run for presidency, when George Dubiya tarnished his war record, wasn't a stab in the back? blink.gif

You know something? If John McCain runs in 2008, and he wins, I would consider myself as not being too bad off because of it.

I like his Moxie! wink.gif
OsManli
QUOTE (Grizzly @ May 29 2005, 10:57 PM)
QUOTE ( Ben-T)
Currently you are right, what is going on in Congress is "amazing" for Democrats. Mainly because people like John McCain are so willing to stab their own party in the back in order to gain a points with the media.


So you think what happened to John McCain during his first run for presidency, when George Dubiya tarnished his war record, wasn't a stab in the back? blink.gif

You know something? If John McCain runs in 2008, and he wins, I would consider myself as not being too bad off because of it.

I like his Moxie! wink.gif
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To be a republican is to renounce any sort of intellect, decency, morals, credibility and logic
Ben-T
This coming from the man who is so afraid to take any cultural responsibility for any of his problems that he blames literally every problem in the Musliml on the Jews. You are a sadly pitiable figure Os.

Of course I consider what happened to McCain a stab in the back. Politics is an inherently vile business that should be reviled by all.
OsManli
QUOTE (Ben-T @ May 30 2005, 10:27 AM)
This coming from the man who is so afraid to take any cultural responsibility for any of his problems that he blames literally every problem in the Musliml on the Jews. You are a sadly pitiable figure Os.

Of course I consider what happened to McCain a stab in the back. Politics is an inherently vile business that should be reviled by all.
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Benny,

I have no problems when it comes to america, americans or any other anti-islamic people. My "culture" isn't guilty either, this is just a product of your schizophrenic tendency and ignorance of what is really happening in the world.
Ben-T
There is indeed a problem with the prevalent Islamic Culture in the Middle East.

It is not all the culture, but it is a prevalent faction of it. Islamic Conservatives are quite largely to blame for the problems the world faces today. It is of the utmost importance that Progressives win the war for Islam.
Elder of Zion
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To be a republican is to renounce any sort of intellect, decency, morals, credibility and logic


This coming from somone who believes in conspiracy theories is truly laughable.
OsManli
QUOTE (Ben-T @ May 30 2005, 02:04 PM)
There is indeed a problem with the prevalent Islamic Culture in the Middle East.

It is not all the culture, but it is a prevalent faction of it. Islamic Conservatives are quite largely to blame for the problems the world faces today. It is of the utmost importance that Progressives win the war for Islam.
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Benny,

This is why you are a zionist, because you morons are desperately trying make terrorism exclusive to "radical islam" which is an "off shoot" of "conservative islam", which is an off shoot of "moderate islam"... so islam needs "reform" because of what 19 pervert playboy arabs supposedly did on 9-11..... This type of brainwashing is a product of american right-wing christians many of whom are rabid zionists. You see, the only thing in the way of USraeli domination is Islam and the real possibilty of unification in the near future. USrael understands that the current left -over British puppet tyrants will not last, and REAL LEADERS will emerge from muslim country, like Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey. USA is completely stressed out that a few more will emerge making life very difficult of the right wing nut jobs and their zionist masters.....


Islam has not changed for centuries and will not change now. There is no "islamic terrorist conspiracy"... these are 100% fabricated lies! Not one person was convicted of the 9/11 terror plot or other "terror plots" from "sleeper cells" that Jesus freak Ashcroft produced. The terrorists are undercover Mossad agents, protected by the highest levels of gov't due to power the zionists have gained within the US gov't. 9/11 was no simple job a cave man could have done.
Ben-T
Of course Os. Everything that you don't like hearing is a Jewish Conspiracy Lie.

God, talking to you is like trying to teach a down syndrome victim Physics.

You can whine about how Islam will not change all you want, the fact of the matter is that Islam becomes more and more progessive, not less and less so, every day. You are part of a band of xenophobic, racist, ultra-conservative, and ultimately stupid band of Islamic Conservatives that is even now being consigned the ashbin of history.

In this world Os, only those who are fit survive. You, and you're brand of Radical Islam, are both unfit.
Ben-T
Actually Os, you know what? You are right, you have been all along. Nothing gives me greater glee than the slaughter of Arabs. 9/11 was a fake, pretty, much every NeoCon knows about that. We have no higher priority in life than the expansion of Israel and the service of our Zionist masters.

I have no other priority in life than finding out how best to benefit Israel and how best to cheat Islamic Arabs out of their rightful role in life.
Boon Mee
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ May 29 2005, 02:45 PM)
So you got the power. Now what are you gonna do with it?
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We're gonna stomp out all *spit*, "Progressives" *spit* ! laugh.gif
Nomad
QUOTE (OsManli @ May 30 2005, 07:06 PM)
Islam has not changed for centuries and will not change now.
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No it has not. And that is precisly the problem with Islam. 037.gif
Boh Bpen Yang
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Islam has not changed for centuries and will not change now.


You are right 100%, but Muslims have, and continue to change. They are not all changing in the same way. The currents of their righteous belief, or in some cases, their greed for power and domination, are floating them in different directions. Some will drift to lands of peace and prosperity in a life based on virtuous harmony, and others will drift aimlessly in a sea of dispair for ever and ever. Are you in the right boat Os?
OsManli
QUOTE (Boh Bpen Yang @ May 31 2005, 06:16 AM)
You are right 100%, but Muslims have, and continue to change.  They are not all changing in the same way.  The currents of their righteous belief, or in some cases, their greed for power and domination, are floating them in different directions.  Some will drift to lands of peace and prosperity in a life based on virtuous harmony, and others will drift aimlessly in a sea of dispair for ever and ever.  Are you in the right boat Os?
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I am not concerned about Islam's future because it is a beacon for all who want to benefit from it. The problem is the genuine war on islam created by the zionist jews.
OsManli
....and they call me an "extremist".

Here is 100% proof of the utter contempt and hatred zionist jews have against, because we are muslims and nothing else. Zionist jews gave birth to terror, and they will be severely punished for it from the Creator Himself, if not in this world, it will be in the hereafter.
Thaiquila
Like I always say, ZIONISM, its not just for breakfast anymore.

Sorry, couldn't resist.
Grizzly
QUOTE (Boon Mee @ May 30 2005, 11:24 PM)
We're gonna stomp out all *spit*, "Progressives" *spit* ! laugh.gif
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With what has been going on here lately on the "Hill"? You had better start working a tad bit harder! huh.gif
Elder of Zion
QUOTE (OsManli @ May 31 2005, 05:57 AM)
....and they call me an "extremist".

Here is 100% proof of the utter contempt and hatred zionist jews have against, because we are muslims and nothing else. Zionist jews gave birth to terror, and they will be severely punished for it from the Creator Himself, if not in this world, it will be in the hereafter.
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Exactly! Because people who have their kid's buses blow up by peaceful muslim homocide bombers are not the real terrorists.

Does killing Jews up your chances of getting virgins in your false heaven, os?
Boh Bpen Yang
QUOTE (OsManli @ May 31 2005, 10:57 AM)
....and they call me an "extremist".

Here is 100% proof of the utter contempt and hatred zionist jews have against, because we are muslims and nothing else. Zionist jews gave birth to terror, and they will be severely punished for it from the Creator Himself, if not in this world, it will be in the hereafter.
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Then so be it.

He is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful and He is the swiftest in taking account. He declares the truth, and He is the best of judges.

Those other guys need to stay out of it.
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