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Gop 4 life!
LeBoutillier said the book cuts through the mainstream media’s pro-Hillary propaganda and gives readers "a look at the lying, manipulating, dishonest – and extremely dysfunctional – former first lady who has been on an inexorable march to the Oval Office for over 30 years."

I couldn't have said it better my self.

http://www.newsmax.com/adv/hillary/index.cfm?refid=1216
John L
One thing that has not been brought up yet is her sexual proclivity. It has been common knowledge within informed sources that she is a confirmed bisexual. I believe that this will also be brought up with this book.

It will be interesting to keep tuned, not because of this, but because she goes to such trouble to hide it. Now that is real hyprocrisy! wink.gif
Grizzly
QUOTE ( John L)
One thing that has not been brought up yet is her sexual proclivity. It has been common knowledge within informed sources that she is a confirmed bisexual.


Really? Do you know the sources of these informed sources, John? Please do share; inquiring minds would love to know! wink.gif
Thaiquila
Huh? I did her.
Boon Mee
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Jun 9 2005, 02:00 PM)
Huh? I did her.
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In your dreams! laugh.gif

For a good Fisking of her latest speech see HERE .
John L
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Jun 9 2005, 02:26 PM)
QUOTE ( John L)
One thing that has not been brought up yet is her sexual proclivity. It has been common knowledge within informed sources that she is a confirmed bisexual.


Really? Do you know the sources of these informed sources, John? Please do share; inquiring minds would love to know! wink.gif
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Keep your panties on Grizz. It will all come out eventually. And it has surfaced in several places. You can Google can't you?
Thaiquila
It wouldn't surprise me if she has done some lesbo playing. It is quite common in women of her class and intelligence. I don't know if that history would actually classify her as bisexual. It would probably help her with the white male vote anyway.

Whatever supposed negatives you can find on Hillary personally, bush has proven it is possible to be elected with even worse negatives (draft dodging, drug abuse, alchoholism, business failures, daddy's boy, etc etc) so happy fantasies, Pres Hillary is in the house!
John L
QUOTE ("TQ")
It is quite common in women of her class and intelligence.


Another display of elitism here TQ? Only a classy or intelligent person would consider being bisexual?

The fact that I have absolutely no sexual inclination to you or any other male must mean that I have no class or intelligence. That makes me feel better and justifys my need to be stupid.

Thank you TQ! rolleyes.gif
Grizzly
QUOTE ( John L)
Keep your panties on Grizz. It will all come out eventually. And it has surfaced in several places. You can Google can't you?


Why thank you, John! I sure did! Here is just one of my findings: rolleyes.gif

bluelemur.com

QUOTE ( bluelemur.com)
*According to a March 18, 2000, article in The Express, headlined “Hillary in Lesbian Slur,” Wheeler spread the bisexual story during Hillary Clinton’s 2000 run for the U.S. Senate. According to the newspaper, Wheeler was quoted in The National Enquirer as saying, “My sources indicate that Hillary is bisexual and fools around much more than her husband.” The newspaper identified Wheeler as a Republican party strategist and a ferocious Clinton critic.
*Underlining and boldness added by Grizzly

Well where can I start out with this? Lets see...

I wonder just how many axes Mr. Wheeler is grinding? blink.gif And that gentleman has SOURCES?! I can't wait until he names them and they give intricate details on this subject! *Seeing Hillary and Bill -- both -- rubbing hands together in anticipation!* biggrin.gif

And the National Enquirer? Yeah, I imagine most people get their conventional news from that publication. rolleyes.gif *There are not enough of these>>>>>>> rolleyes.gif*
Grizzly
QUOTE ( John L)
One thing that has not been brought up yet is her sexual proclivity. It has been common knowledge within informed sources that she is a confirmed bisexual. I believe that this will also be brought up with this book.

It will be interesting to keep tuned, not because of this, but because she goes to such trouble to hide it. Now that is real hyprocrisy!


NOTE To GOP 4 life: I was just curious as to know if you have any opinions to John's statement here.
Thaiquila
QUOTE (John L @ Jun 10 2005, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE ("TQ")
It is quite common in women of her class and intelligence.


Another display of elitism here TQ? Only a classy or intelligent person would consider being bisexual?

The fact that I have absolutely no sexual inclination to you or any other male must mean that I have no class or intelligence. That makes me feel better and justifys my need to be stupid.

Thank you TQ! rolleyes.gif
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I was talking about the LADIES, John.
In my experience with the elite ladies (I used to hang out at Smith College) a lot more than you would think are into each other, so I made the jump that it was more aceeptable and common in the elite. They have read Kinsey, don't you know, and have not been brainwashed by bible belt tripe.

From your descriptions of yourself, the gay male world breathes a sigh of relief at your disinterest, though there are many stunning young men in Thailand who would consider you a very handsome man indeed!
Ben-T
Why the HELL should we care what Hillary's sexual orientation is?

Why the freaking HELL does anybody care about ANYBODY'S sexual orientation, except insofar as they want to know whether or not they can F U C K said person?

Freakin Caveman s h i t, I swear!
Thaiquila
Well, I can answer that.
Because it does indeed affect a candidate's chances of being elected.
Barney Frank can be elected congressman in liberal Massachusetts, but would find it hard to be a dogcatcher in Virginia, and is automatically disqualified from being president because he is gay.
So back to realpolitik, it does matter.
If Hillary was a lesbian and it could be documented, she would not have a chance.
If as I suspect, all you have is a bunch of rumors that she might have played around with women on occasion, this is of much less significant political importance.
Ben-T
I understand TQ, that it matters in the world.

I am not questioning WHETHER OR NOT people care. They do. I am however, at a loss as to WHY they care.

Even from the Religious standpoint, The Religious case against Homosexuality is ONE FREAKING LINE from Laviticus!

one line!

It's mind-boggling.

What do you mean what "I" have about Hillary being a lesbian?

I don't give a rat's arse if she is a lesbian. If I wanted to have sex with her I would care. I do not however, desire to have sex with her.

And no I am not opposed to gay marriage. I am very much for it.
Gop 4 life!
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Jun 10 2005, 03:17 PM)
QUOTE ( John L)
One thing that has not been brought up yet is her sexual proclivity. It has been common knowledge within informed sources that she is a confirmed bisexual. I believe that this will also be brought up with this book.

It will be interesting to keep tuned, not because of this, but because she goes to such trouble to hide it. Now that is real hyprocrisy!


NOTE To GOP 4 life: I was just curious as to know if you have any opinions to John's statement here.
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Looks fine to me.
Gop 4 life!
QUOTE (Ben-T @ Jun 11 2005, 02:59 AM)
Why the HELL should we care what Hillary's sexual orientation is?

Why the freaking HELL does anybody care about ANYBODY'S sexual orientation, except insofar as they want to know whether or not they can F U C K said person?

Freakin Caveman s h i t, I swear!
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I'm open with mine to show the left that we are just one of the many minorities that will soon start leaving them in droves.
Grizzly
QUOTE (Gop 4 life! @ Jun 11 2005, 02:19 AM)
I'm open with mine to show the left that we are just one of the many minorities that will soon start leaving them in droves.
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You never have given adequate reasons for it, either. cool.gif
Ben-T
Because the Republican Party is closer to his ideological roots?

It isn't as if the DNC is beating down the door to legalize Gay Marriage.
Grizzly
QUOTE (Ben-T @ Jun 12 2005, 08:35 PM)
It isn't as if the DNC is beating down the door to legalize Gay Marriage.
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True. But they aren't trying to judge it either. popcorn.gif *And I am still waiting for a reply from GOP 4 life on how he thinks that the present GOP will help him obtain his goals.*
Nomad
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Jun 9 2005, 01:00 PM)
Huh? I did her.
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If that scag were the last woman on earth any remaining men would turn gay. 004.gif
Nomad
Read it and weep libbys. And this is just the start..........................



XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN JUNE 12, 2005 20:02:25 ET XXXXX

RAGE AT AUTHOR AFTER CLAIM: BILL RAPED HILLARY, CONCEIVED CHELSEA

**Exclusive**

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton turned furious and considered legal action after learning bestselling author Ed Klein would allege in a new book: Bill Clinton raped her -- resulting in the conception of daughter Chelsea Clinton!

"[Author] Klein is going to rot in hell for this," a well-placed source close to Hillary said over the weekend.

The explosive charge comes in THE TRUTH ABOUT HILLARY: WHAT SHE KNEW, WHEN SHE KNEW IT, AND HOW FAR SHE'LL GO TO BECOME PRESIDENT -- set for release next week.

[The book ranked #198 on AMAZON.COM's hourly sale chart late Sunday.]

MORE

"I'm going back to my cottage to rape my wife," Klein quotes Bill Clinton as saying during a Bermuda getaway in 1979.

In the morning, the Clintons' room "looked like World War III. There are pillows and busted-up furniture all over the place," an unnamed source tells Klein.

Klein source claims Bill later learned Hillary was pregnant reading about it in the ARKANSAS GAZETTE.

"The fact that his wife didn't tell him that she was pregnant before she told a reporter doesn't seem to phase him one bit, because he says, 'Do you know what night that happened?"

"'No,' I say. 'When?"

"'It was Bermuda,' he says, 'And you were there!'"

MORE

The rape claim is just the beginning of Klein's alleged revelations, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

TRUTH ABOUT HILLARY marks the most aggressive attempt yet to investigate Hillary.

The former first lady turned senator fumed as a close aide offered details of the book, an insider explains.

"Mrs. Clinton told me she would considering suing him for outright libel," the top Hillary source explains. "This is the right wing attack machine on crack!"

MORE

But Hillary and her camp may have a hard time typecasting Ed Klein as a Clinton-crazed right-winger. Klein is the former foreign editor of NEWSWEEK and former editor in chief of the NEW YORK TIMES MAGAZINE. He is a frequent contributor to VANITY FAIR and PARADE.

He is also the author of THE KENNEDY CURSE; FAREWELL, JACKIE; and several other NEW YORK TIMES bestsellers.

VANITY FAIR has already commissioned an excerpt of the embargoed Hillary book, exploring Hillary's senate runs.

Developing...

Link


With the ammo Hillary has provided over the course of her career? the Swift Boat Vets are gonna look like rank amatures compared to the truth that gonna hit this rotten b i t c h . Looking forward to it. laugh.gif laugh.gif popcorn.gif
Grizzly
QUOTE ( Nomad)
Read it and weep libbys. And this is just the start..........................
Look someone wrote something and Nomad says its true; thats typical for him to believe that!

QUOTE ( Nomad's lazy quote)
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton turned furious and considered legal action after learning bestselling author Ed Klein would allege in a new book: Bill Clinton raped her -- resulting in the conception of daughter Chelsea Clinton!
If Klein comes out with that I hope she does!

QUOTE ( even more of Nomad's lazy quote)
Klein is the *former foreign editor of NEWSWEEK and *former editor in chief of the NEW YORK TIMES MAGAZINE. He is a *frequent contributor to VANITY FAIR and PARADE.
*Underlining by Grizzly

Oh look at how many formers we have here! *Maybe Mr. Klein should be called Nomad instead of you, Nomad!* wink.gif laugh.gif

Frequent? Well... because one does need to eat, by all means, right? wink.gif laugh.gif
Mr. McCain
Although I am a Democrat who voted for Bush in '04 (starting to wonder why) I believe that Hillary's "sexual proclivities" do not matter.

Like or hate her, its hard to argue she is not a smart woman. My own political analysis aside, I see her as a formidable candidate in '08.

Personally however, I am taking a look at Evan Bayh. With much more research to do, intially, I like this guy and may consider supporting him.


(Good to see you again John L).
Gop 4 life!
QUOTE (Ben-T @ Jun 13 2005, 12:35 AM)
Because the Republican Party is closer to his ideological roots?

It isn't as if the DNC is beating down the door to legalize Gay Marriage.
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Duh! Thanks Ben.
Ben-T
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Jun 12 2005, 05:48 PM)
True. But they aren't trying to judge it either. popcorn.gif *And I am still waiting for a reply from GOP 4 life on how he thinks that the present GOP will help him obtain his goals.*
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Oh I dunno, maybe he has more goals than simply legalizing Gay Marriage?

Maybe he's even just tired of CERTAIN DEMOCRATS who can't look at him as more than "The Gay Vote"?

I don't know, but I do know that if I was in a minority I would be pretty pissed at condescending dems.

For more on this, one might check out the fine book "They Think You're Stupid" By Herman Cain
Grizzly
QUOTE ( Ben-T)
I don't know, but I do know that if I was in a minority I would be pretty pissed at condescending dems.
Really, Ben? Maybe you can tell me what we have done to piss off the Gay vote?

I wasn't aware that progressives wanted those 11 marriage amendments to pass in 2004. popcorn.gif
Ben-T
Oh don't catch me wrong. If I was gay I would be no fan of the way the GOP was treating me either. I would find the attitudes of both parties repugnant.

Now for me, given the chance, I would immediately legalize Gay marriage, as I am a Social Libertarian.
Boh Bpen Yang




Grizzly
Forget the jpgs and gifs! I can't wait for the book and the author's sources finally revealed! wink.gif laugh.gif
dixon76710
QUOTE (Ben-T @ Jun 16 2005, 07:27 PM)
Oh don't catch me wrong. If I was gay I would be no fan of the way the GOP was treating me either. I would find the attitudes of both parties repugnant.

Now for me, given the chance, I would immediately legalize Gay marriage, as I am a Social Libertarian.
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I would argue thay gay marriage is perfectly legal in America. Even here deep in the heart of Central Texas we have a local Unitarian church that hitches them together all the time. Of course, just down the street at the Baptist church they wouldnt hear of such a thing. Certainly as a Liberterian you wouldnt advocate procedures to compell that Baptist preacher to do so, would you? Assuming not, and assuming that what you really mean is that you want a license for gays, how do you rationalize, as a liberterian, that the government MUST step in and license this personal relationship? The governments arguement for the need for licensing men and women is tenuous as it is? Seems the need for licensing gay couples is non existant. MARK
Ben-T
It is my belief that the government should have no legistlation over any marriage of ANY type in the first place. But if the government is going to jurisdict on marriage, gays should be allowed to get marriage licenses. But yes given total control over the issue I would simply abolish government involvement in marriage.

However no, I would very much oppose the government ever stepping in and forcing religious institutions to hold gay marriages against their will.
Fit2BThaied
There appear to be huge differences in perception (among SOME American men) between an exclusively gay man, a bisexually active man, an exclusively lesbian woman, and a bisexual woman. Some men (secretly or openly) consider bisexual women to be sexier than an exclusively heterosexual woman. The converse or inverse does not apply to male sex behavior. It's a double standard.

I don't understand it, exxcept that somebody explained "Hey, when you see two naked ladies together, that's sexy - but two naked men - no way!".

Hilary gave birth to Chelsea; that proves her heterosexual behavior. If she had female partners, that may not matter to many voters. Nevertheless, the Republicans will have a field day.

The rich Republicans were so incensed at having lost the White House in 1932 that they said terribly vicious things about Eleanor Roosevelt, including lesbian and bestiality, as they sipped their brandy in the private clubs.
Fit2BThaied
QUOTE (Ben-T @ Jun 17 2005, 06:34 PM)
It is my belief that the government should have no legistlation over any marriage of ANY type in the first place. But if the government is going to jurisdict on marriage, gays should be allowed to get marriage licenses. But yes given total control over the issue I would simply abolish government involvement in marriage.

However no, I would very much oppose the government ever stepping in and forcing religious institutions to hold gay marriages against their will.
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Agree completely.

See, Ben, there are points on which we agree! dry.gif
Ben-T
QUOTE (Fit2BThaied @ Jun 18 2005, 07:38 PM)
There appear to be huge differences in perception (among SOME American men) between an exclusively gay man, a bisexually active man, an exclusively lesbian woman, and a bisexual woman.  Some men (secretly or openly) consider bisexual women to be sexier than an exclusively heterosexual woman.  The converse or inverse does not apply to male sex behavior.  It's a double standard.

I don't understand it, exxcept that somebody explained "Hey, when you see two naked ladies together, that's sexy - but two naked men - no way!". 

Hilary gave birth to Chelsea; that proves her heterosexual behavior.  If she had female partners, that may not matter to many voters.  Nevertheless, the Republicans will have a field day.

The rich Republicans were so incensed at having lost the White House in 1932 that they said terribly vicious things about Eleanor Roosevelt, including lesbian and bestiality, as they sipped their brandy in the private clubs.
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Um....yeah, FDR wasn't exactly a "Man of the people" when it came to his wealth. He lived in a lap of luxury that would rival any Republican. Nevermind the fact that it was the very same type of Socialist policies that he advocated that drove the Economic Barons out of the market and caused the crash in the first place!
Gop 4 life!
QUOTE (Ben-T @ Jun 17 2005, 02:27 AM)
Oh don't catch me wrong. If I was gay I would be no fan of the way the GOP was treating me either. I would find the attitudes of both parties repugnant.

Now for me, given the chance, I would immediately legalize Gay marriage, as I am a Social Libertarian.
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Both parties remain staunchly oppossed to gay marriage, so that's null and void when I compare the two.

I agree with the GOP on the vast majority of the issues, so that's how I vote.

I don't have a problem with gay marriage either, so long as it's VOLUNTARLY inacted by voters in the states.
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