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Grizzly
Boy the pachyderm MSM really came out to yell, when Hillary Rodham Clinton made that 'plantation' statement. This includes Ann Coulter cutting down on Senator Clinton.

Unfortunately, it seems that Ann forgot about her own entanglement with the word 'plantation'!

But Media Matters did not!

Denouncing Sen. Clinton, Coulter ignored her own "plantation" remarks

Summary: Ann Coulter attacked Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for her remarks in which she said that Republicans had run the House of Representatives "like a plantation," even though Coulter had previously used the same metaphor to attack liberals.

On the January 17 edition of Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter assailed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) for her January 16 remarks to a predominantly black audience, in which she said that Republicans had run the House of Representatives "like a plantation." But Coulter herself has previously used a "plantation" metaphor to attack liberals.

When host Neil Cavuto asked Coulter to comment on Clinton's January 16 remarks, she replied: "What a surprise that Hillary would be mentioning plantations on Martin Luther King Day in a black church. It's a crazy coincidence." Coulter called Clinton's comments "moronic," asking rhetorically, "Is that the one thing plantations were missing? A cloture vote?" She later asserted that Clinton's statements were "just the same old cliché. It's just Democrats once again running to the blacks whenever they're in trouble. You know, race-baiting on Martin Luther King Day. I think people are getting sick of it."

But as Media Matters for America previously noted, Coulter has a history of making racially charged remarks, including an attack on liberals that featured a "plantation" metaphor. On the December 8, 2004, edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, Coulter said that because liberals "feel like they have blacks on the plantation, they can say whatever they like" about black conservatives:

COULTER: They [liberals] feel like they have blacks on the plantation, they can say whatever they like. And, interestingly, you don't even hear Hispanic conservatives attacked in the same way that people like [Secretary of State] Condoleezza Rice and [Supreme Court Justice] Clarence Thomas are, and -- and, I mean, just look at it. Look at what the Democrats' minority leader in the Senate said this weekend. He praises [Supreme Court Justice Antonin] Scalia as "Oh, he's one smart guy, and his opinions, can't dispute the logic, though I disagree with them," and then he says of Clarence Thomas "He's an embarrassment. His opinions -- they're just poorly written."

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O'REILLY: Isn't it loathsome, though, to use bias attacks to try to demean people with whom you disagree with politically? That's just loathsome, isn't it?[/i]

COULTER: Yes, although I will note -- I mean, I haven't particularly gone after the political cartoons. I think political cartoons are different. What I'm saying is that the serious thinkers, the political consultants, the people -- the pundits on TV, their attacks -- and the Democratic senators and representatives -- their attacks on black conservatives are instantly to revert to the most old-fashioned racist attacks. "Oh, yes, dummy." "Black chick. She's a dummy."

From the January 17 edition of Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto:

CAVUTO: Ann, to you first. What do you make of these remarks?

COULTER: What a surprise that Hillary would be mentioning plantations on Martin Luther King Day in a black church. It's a crazy coincidence.

CAVUTO: Was it insensitive?

COULTER: I think it's moronic more than insensitive. I mean, is that the one thing plantations were missing? A cloture vote? This is how, you know, seventh-graders argue because they have a limited repertoire at that age. You know, you don't go around comparing everything to a plantation.

[...]

CAVUTO: You know, Ann, am I crazy to think that maybe Hillary Clinton was crazy like a fox? That, you know, there were some in her base -- liberal base who were getting ticked off by this moderate move or whatever you want to call it, and maybe by making the statement she did, that was a calculated move to sort of reassure the base.

COULTER: I don't think that's really a sign of Democratic or liberal muscularity. It's just the same old cliché. It's just Democrats once again running to the blacks whenever they're in trouble. You know, race-baiting on Martin Luther King Day. I think people are getting sick of it. And I would think most of all -- well not most of all, I think everyone is getting sick of this watering down of what slavery and what plantations were. They didn't have enough representatives on congressional committees in slavery days? Was that the problem with slavery?
SkiGuy
Man, my 2 dogs sure take a lot of "Ann Coulters" in the yard.
John L
My first impression here is, "Golly Gee", this is taking stuttering to the "Nth" degree here. I counted one, no two, no three, wait a minute four. That's right four paragraphs to finally spit out what Ann Coulter had to say.

Again, my first impression is, "Holy Cow", they had to use that much repetition to "fill in" the article. That really is impressive.

And my Second impression is "Man Alive", these folks make it even more expansive by simply using an interview that really doesn't further their point.

What is going on here? This Media Matters place, do they fluff everything up like they did this one? And just who is "brilliant" enough to fall for this "compressing one paragraph into an entire page"? Obviously someone who has more time ,than common sense, on their hands.

Thank you for this cogent article Grizz. I'm learning more about your thinking, or lack thereof, every day. wink.gif
Grizzly
QUOTE ("John L")
Thank you for this cogent article Grizz. I'm learning more about your thinking, or lack thereof, every day.  wink.gif


Ouch! Would have sufficed, John. tongue.gif
John L
Unfortunately I am stating the truth here Grizz. If you go back and read this article, it is like the pitcher who starts the wind up. You have four wind ups, before the ball is released. That is called a "Balk". Three batters have already been advanced to the next base. The bases are loaded.

And what makes it worse, is that the pitcher continues to wind up, even after the pitch has been made.

Whoever wrote that one should take some classes on how to present an argument.

Don't you agree? Or is this also the way that you process information?
John L
Oh, and one other reason why this fellow, or gal-whichever, needs to take some English composition. He/she needs to know the difference between a analogy, and a plain statement.

Ms Coulter was using the "plantation" word as an analogy there. Hillary was making a straigh forward accusation, no alalogy.

Surely you are able to differentuate the two Grizz?
bob
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Jan 19 2006, 11:42 PM)
QUOTE ("John L")
Thank you for this cogent article Grizz. I'm learning more about your thinking, or lack thereof, every day.  wink.gif


Ouch! Would have sufficed, John. tongue.gif
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So are you going to cancel your ACLU membership and join the NRA(the true civil libertarians)?
That would be the proper thing once you take you foot out of your mouth!
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Grizzly
QUOTE ("John L")
Unfortunately I am stating the truth here Grizz. If you go back and read this article, it is like the pitcher who starts the wind up. You have four wind ups, before the ball is released. That is called a "Balk". Three batters have already been advanced to the next base. The bases are loaded.

And what makes it worse, is that the pitcher continues to wind up, even after the pitch has been made.


Well it is like a ball game, John; Ann Coulter tried to steal a base and was nabbed!
John L
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Jan 19 2006, 06:54 PM)
QUOTE ("John L")
Unfortunately I am stating the truth here Grizz. If you go back and read this article, it is like the pitcher who starts the wind up. You have four wind ups, before the ball is released. That is called a "Balk". Three batters have already been advanced to the next base. The bases are loaded.

And what makes it worse, is that the pitcher continues to wind up, even after the pitch has been made.


Well it is like a ball game, John; Ann Coulter tried to steal a base and was nabbed!
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Hey, if that "cranks your rod", then have at it Grizz. I don't read Ms Ann, so I wouldn't know if she was trying to steal a base, make a "sacrifice fly", or whatever, or rub the left's nose in their own excrement. As long as you enjoy your bliss, all is fine with me.

BTY: cute little Smiley faces. Are you and Solo having a "smiley urinating contest" here?
John L
Oh, and speaking of the Hilldabeast and "Plantations"

Grizzly
Thats good John, but here is a better one!

John L
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