This independant group is petitionning the release of John Kerry's military records because they know the truth and they know a rat when they see one.



http://www.swiftvets.com/

Excellent, lets show ALL of America how horrid he truly is.

Had a look and once again this seems to be a group invented purely to give Kerry a hard time. Their forum consists of the usual GWB is ok and also some odd denials about the Bush family fortune. It's on record that Bush Snr, the former presidents father made a fortune doing deals with the Nazi's. This included interest in coal mines which used Slave Labor from conquored countries.

A whole lot of denial going on.

I have to assume that you are in the process of providing us with proof to back up your gratuitous assertion here? So please elaborate.........with respected links, and persuasive points. Surely, you are not going to lead us to believe that you are a disreputable and scurrilous twister of the truth. Are you?

Because, if you do, there are those of us who will most assuridly label you as an UNSCRUPULOUS MODIFIER!

Why would anybody question lamphun's motives?

A quick review of the facts is provided at this link. Perhaps the sins of the grandfather shouldn't be passed to GWB, however his money did come from this source as he' no businessman.

Why would anyone believe Drahiem jr.? While trying to make his point he cant even hold back from making slurs against GWB, not very convincing I must say.


anyway this thread is about the 200 or so servicemen, many who served directly with John Kerry have banded together to request that the senator release the truth about his military record.
Is that so unreasonable?
These 200 men claim that Kerry lied before the congress in 1971. That his allegations where unsubstanciated and unwarranted.
They claim that Kerry is currently lying about his military record. They want Kerry to release that record. If he is'nt lying should'nt be a problem right.

By the way this group of servicemen are completely independant. The are funded out of thier own pockets

Lamphun~

Because, if you do, there are those of us who will most assuridly label you as an UNSCRUPULOUS MODIFIER

'Bout says it all...

So you didn't bother checking out the link. It's fairly common knowledge and I notice that nobody is denying it. You seem to want to shoot the messenger.

Lampshade you having little trouble focusing. The changing the subject tactic is lame.

Kerry's military records are the topic of this particular thread. I say he wont be releasing them for public scrutiny because they will prove him to be a liar.

Lampshade are you capable of facing the truth?

John Kerry is one of the worst presidential candidates to ever come along.
Even Bill Clinton is turning away from him. That may be the kiss of death.
Or maybe the screechings of wild eyed Al Gore.

We are American. We don't really care all that much what someone's grandfather did way back when, however, if John Kerry lied about his military record, that is news.

Bobby

I didn't change the subject. I checked out your website. A bit of a joke and all sponsored from their own pockets ha ha ha. I pointed out their denial of historic fact. That's where this discussion of the Bush family fortune originated from. I can only assume that their other factoids are bit suspect as well.

Your hatred of Kerry seems to be a bit personal.

Lampshade is behaving in true Kerry supporter fashion. When you bring up an issue which brings an unfavorable light on Kerry they immediately attack GWB.

The favorite is to attack GWB's guard service.

They are trying to maintain that John Kerry's 4 months in vietnam and his 3 purple hearts for minor injuries make him a war hero. Baloney!

Maybe personal but probably because I just dislike phonies.

but a man who met with north vietnamese officials, oganized rallies and marched under the north vietnamese flag while we had soldiers in harms way in vietnam has absolutely no business being commander and chief.

Blobby

I didn't mention GWB non attendance in the Texas Airforce. Perhaps some other poster would like to bring this up.

Skipping a few week-end meetings of The National Guard is hardly in the same category, MR. limp-et.

As I said I didn't mention it. So what's you're point ?

You did mention it, and I did answer you; You are a little slow my friend.

No, this subject was brought up by Bob. As for being your friend LOL, you've got plenty of friends you don't need me thank goodness.

Oh is there some evidence to support that claim?
To my knowledge there is none. Do the words "unsubstanciated innuendo" carry any meaning to you?

It's fairly well documented Bob.

You're right, I don't need any slow ones.

Thought you had to fly ?

Problem with your broom-stick ?

The good Senator will most likely never open his military medical records...the truth may cause him too much harm.

Has someone asked for his medical records ?

I doubt anybody would want to release theitr medical records, politician or not.

As for Kerry's military records I doubt there's anything to hide. Kerry has been touting his military experience to the voters already. He wouldn't do that if there was a problem. It's not as if he went AWOL or anything like that. He served his country in war and suffered injuries.

lampy glad you finally figured out what the thread is about.
Yes this group of about 200 of Kerry's fellow sevicemen are calling him a liar.
Saying his military service was a sham. He left after serving only 4 months by virtue of applying for purple hearts for very minor injuries (with 2 of his purple heart she was treated with a band aid and released). They also say that he lied in front of congress upon his return. Kerry is a real freaking hero!

LOL

once again, eberyone on both sides calling eachother liars...

truth is, since no one in here can actually substantiate their claims - and no one seems to understand why it is that they cant - we are all liars...

even you Bob, yes, even you - only problem is, you're not smart enough to realize it - at least I am...

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

I would personally like to see the mans records....3 PH in 4 months ,and he seems to be moving okay seems interesting...and there have been claims that his "medical treatment" was rather superficial, at least in some instances...

Smythie this is exactly why we should all want to see these records so there can be no doubt to the fact that John Kerry is an honest straight shooting standup guy. heheheh. You have no doubts about his honesty and integrity do you Smythie?

This has been the most entertaining group of postings I have seen yet. I think JFKerry modeled himself after JFKennedy, even though the name was not origionally Kerry in Europe. If he was true to his mission, he would have served his tour, returned home. and kept his mouth shut, regardless of his feelings. To throw those medals on the ground, including the purple hearts (I presume), he spit in the face of his fellow servicemen. That plus his testamony is why they hate him so. I am almost positive that JFKennedy would not have done what he did, and as a student of history, he should have known better.

I agree that JFKerry should release medical records. The issue is the gravity of the injuries which warrented the purple hearts. The problem is the purple heart can mean anything from a band aid to DEATH. Obviously, it seems to be to many an insult to those who died for them to take them for anything other than an INJURY. It seems that Kerry was smart enough to know the rules, and in a position to use them to skate through. I think taken as a whole, Kerry's Viet Nam record is far more damning than useful.

[QUOTEI think taken as a whole, Kerry's Viet Nam record is far more damning than useful.[/QUOTE]

Thats why we probably wont ever see them. Funny how this group of 200 servicemen funded out of their own pockets calling Kerry a liar is'nt getting much media attention.