HISPANIC LEADERS SPEAK OUT!


Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party. "Remember 187 (proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens) was the last gasp of white America in California."

Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. "They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They're right. We will take them over ... We are here to stay."

Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico. "The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot."

Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor. "We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country ... I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, 'I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.'"

Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton. "California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave."

Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets. "Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die ... Through love of having children, we are going to take over."

Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas. "We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population ... I love it. They are ******* in their pants with fear. I love it."

Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General. "We are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California."

Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University. "We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos ... "

Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are mainstream Mexican leaders.

The U.S. vs MEXICO: On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. Flags were held upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. Team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at the U.S. Players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. Team, Steve Sampson said, "This was the most painful experience I have ever had in this profession."


Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third world immigrants should get special, privileged status. Some examples are Exxon, Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more.

WHEN I WAS YOUNG: When I was young, I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island. They wanted to learn English. They wanted to breath free. They wanted to become Americans. Now too many immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand special privileges -- affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify their culture.

HOW CAN YOU HELP: Send copies of this letter to at least two other people, 100 would be even better. Help us get the word out.

This is just the beginning. Let them bray and prance. The end of their free ride is just about over. Real Americans are waking up and don't like what they see.


Keep up the good work get_involved!!

The Indians are waking up ?

^^^LOLOLOLOLOLOL...but I'm not liking what i've been seeing lately from the latin leaders of America. I have no problem w/ latin people or spanish people or any people for that matter trying to get into gov't offices, but threatening to take it over & trying to establish some kind of "Latin vs. The World" bullsh*t isn't going to cut it.

If you are born here you are a native American. Now go back to your coloring books before your mommy finds you playing on the computer.

Yes we are there skab head.

LOL UR AN INDIAN!!!!!!!

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I am of the Aniyunwiya (or Anniyaya) "principal people" as we once called ourselves.

AKA, in 1540 to Desoto, the Spainish blight, as “Chalaque", in Creek as, Chelokee" meaning "people of a different speech.
Also known as TSALAGI, of the Qualia Band of the ELATI Dialect.

(LOWER CHEROKEE, EASTERN CHEROKEE),

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THAT IS ALL!!

Dear get_involved:

Can you provide the source for the Hispanic leaders' quotes?

I am finding at least some of them rather incredible. They smack of a Hispanic form of white supremacy.

I would also like to re-post them to another forum I am on and want to make sure I am well-grounded.

I went to the site for the link you provide but did not see the quotes there.

I am not for illegal immigration, but we need a measure of immigration that is controlled, verified, and justified, as do most countries, based on population, labor needs, etc. and checking people out in terms of backgrounds etc.

I do not favor an open border, and the current system needs to be changed. I think the fault for the current crisis in which we find ourselves is equally shared among the illegals who cross and the businesses who want the cheap labor.

As for the ones here - and granting them amnesty - check them out, as would be done for any type of immigrant, and admit based on the country's needs in terms of skills and numbers, particularly those who have been here and have provided necessary skills and labor to our economy.

For those who are found to be otherwise undesirable - (criminal record, skills not needed, whatever) they are to go back home.

The fact that the majority of the border is open and has been all these years is no accident. Let's face it' we wanted the cheap labor. We bear a lot of the blame here. Still we can't continue in this vein. It's a different world now. I don't want Osama Bin Laden to make hs way to Mexico and saunter over the border undetected.

Anyway please provide the source site(s) for those quotes, if you can. Thanks.

Melodia

I think I voted for Jose Angel Gutierrez once. I suspect he was and is 'liberal' politically. Even if he made that remark about population changes, there's solid evidence that most White straight men are p**sing in their pants but not f***ing with what's in their pants, enough to even replace themselves. Except for yours truly, the gay man. However, Gutierrez knows that the longer that Hispanics stay in the USA, the more they use birth control, especially if they marry a non-Hispanic American.

Anyway, I don't believe the Hispanic leaders said all those things that are being attributed to them in the OP.

Excelsior is one of many daily newspapers in Mexico; the leading liberal rag is La Jornada. Without proper citation, the quotation that is supposedly from Excelsior may be taken out of context. It is absurd for any Mexican to talk about the soveign status of the USA becoming "under the jurisdiction" of Mexico City; if anything, the reverse has been true for over 160 years.

If the quote from Mario Obledo is correct, he may be saying it in the context, "demographically, this state is becoming predominantly Hispanic, and if some Californians can't tolerate that, they can emigrate out of here," which includes racists and bigots.

Speaking of whom, the racists and bigots are being given too much ammunition for their backlash, and the Mexican leadership does need to be using clever uses of non-violent methods, such as having the parade protestors wave American flags instead of Mexican flags.

LOLOLOL

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/hispanic.asp

THanks

I knew something was fishy

it just sounded a bit too propagandized

Melodia

The majority of the quotes are accurate. A couple of them cannot be verified. One is out of context and misleading, seeming to talk about hispanics, but in fact refering to Vietmanese. MARK

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THAT IS ALL!!

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But not made recently with respect to the recent immigration issue

mOST are dated

Mel

But not made recently with respect to the recent immigration issue

Note though, they are ALL Mexicans. Please don't assign these to all HISPANICS. We are not all the same - our agendas are not all the same!

Puerto Rican Americans - as I am - aren't interested in taking over land - Mexicans seem to have that in their agenda - not sure why.

Getting citizenship is a huge push for them - not at all an issue for us. Nor for Cubans with the Wet Foot Dry Foot act.

Most of our issues are very different yet we get lumped together. Food, music, even ethnic stock is almost completely different. Temperaments are very different. Little connects us really except language and some things that matter only when we are in the states.

Also look below - comments made by Black leaders and other leaders - all throughout recent - and non-recent history. So what's new? Why pick on Mexican American leadedrs for making horrible racist statements?

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SONNY CARSON (black activist in New York, when asked if he was anti-Semitic) "I am anti-white. I don't limit my 'anti' to just one group of people." [Mark Mooney, "Ex-Dinkins Organizer Boasts He's 'AntiWhite'" New York Post, October 21, 1989, p. 3.]

MILES DAVIS (black jazz musician) "If somebody told me I had only one hour to live, I'd spend it choking a white man. I'd do it nice and slow." ["Miles Davis Can't Shake Boyhood Racial Abuse," Jet, March 25, 1985.]

ELDRIDGE CLEAVER (former Black Panther leader on why he raped white women) "Rape was an insurrectionary act. It delighted me that I was defying and trampling upon the white man's law, upon his system of values, and that I was defiling his women." [Eldridge Cleaver, Soul on Ice, McGraw-Hill, 1968, p.14.]

GUS SAVAGE (former U.S. Representative from Chicago to a white member of the press) "I don't talk to you white motherf— .… You ##### motherf— in the white press…. F— you, you motherf—ing assh— … white devils." [Marilyn Rauber, "Reporter Says Black Rep Hurled Racial Slurs," New York Post, June 27, 1991, p. 18.]

CHINO WILSON (in an editorial in the Daily Collegian, campus newspaper at Penn State University) "After looking at all the evidence there is only one conclusion: white people are devils…. I believe that we must secure our freedom and independence from these devils by any means necessary, including violence…. To protect ourselves we should bear arms (three handguns and two rifles, maybe an M-16) immediately and form a militia. …. So black people, let us unite, organize, and execute." [Chino Wilson, "African American Students Should Not Trust 'Devilish' White People," The Daily Collegian, Penn State University, January 28, 1992.]

KHALID ABDUL MUHAMMED (former assistant to Louis Farrakhan—current leader of the New Black Panther Party) "Hollywood is owned by these so-called Jews. Look at the movies they make about us, black people killing black people. Let's make some revolutionary movies where we kill white people in the movie. Kill 'em so hard you have to cover up your popcorn from the blood spraying out of the screen." [Speech at San Francisco State University, May 21, 1997.]

KHALID ABDUL MUHAMMED (on what South African blacks should do to any whites who refuse to leave South Africa): "We kill the women. We kill the babies. We kill the blind. We kill the cripples. We kill them all…. When you get through killing them all, go to the goddamn graveyard and kill them a-goddamn-gain because they didn't die hard enough."[November 29, 1993 speech at Kean College in Union, New Jersey.]

MARY FRANCES BERRY (current head of U.S. Commission on Civil Rights)—"Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them." [Civil Rights Under Reagan, San Francisco, ICS Press, 1991, p. 141.]

AUGUSTIN CEBADA (Head of the Brown Berets, a Hispanic activist organization at a July 4, 1996 rally)—"We're here today to show L.A., show the minority people here, the Anglo-Saxons, that we are here, the majority, we're here to stay. We do the work in this city, we take care of the spoiled brat children…. we are the majority here and we are not going to be pushed around."

AUGUSTIN CEBADA "Go back to Simi Valley, you skunks! Go back to Woodland Hills! Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people, it is your duty to die." [Quoted in Barbara Coe, Reconquista, The Takeover of America, California Coalition for Immigration Reform, 1998, p. 20.]

PROF. JOSE ANGEL GUTIERREZ (University of Texas, Arlington) "We have an aging white America. They are dying. They are sh—ing in their pants with fear!… I love it!"—[Speech of Jan. 1995, quoted in Coe, Reconquista, p. 16.]

SUPREME COURT JUSTICE THURGOOD MARSHALL (in a conversation with Justice William Douglas about racial preferences) "You guys have been practicing discrimination for years. Now it is our turn." [William O. Douglas, The Court Years 1939-1975, New York, Random House, 1980.]

BELL HOOKS (black professor of English at City College of New York) "I am writing this essay sitting beside an anonymous white male that I long to murder." [From her book A Killing Rage, quoted by David Horowitz in Hating Whitey, Spence Publishing, 1999, p. 31.]

SISTER SOULJAH (rap artist and black activist) "If black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people." [R.W. Apple "Jackson Sees 'Character Flaw' in Clinton's Remarks on Racism, New York Times, June 19, 1992.]

ICE CUBE (black rapper and actor, on the anti-Korean album Death Certificate) "So don't follow me up and down your market. or your little chop suey ##### will be a target. So pay your respects to the black fist or we'll burn your store right down to a crisp." [Eric Briendel, "Rap Star to Koreans: 'We'll Burn Your Stores,' " New York Post, Dec. 5, 1991, p. 29.]

AMIRI BARAKA (black poet and writer) "You cant steal nothin from a white man, he's already stole it he owes you anything you want, even his life. All the stores will open up if you will say the magic words. The magic words are: Up against the wall motherf— this is a stick up!" [Quoted in Anne Wortham, The Other Side of Racism, Ohio State University Press, 1981, p. 257.]

MARIO OBLEDO—(1998 Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient and former head of Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund—MALDEF) "California is going to be a Mexican state, we are going to control all the institutions. If people don't like it they should leave." [Tom Leykis Radio Show, June 7, 1998.]

MALCOLM X—"The death of over 120 white people is a very beautiful thing." [Speech in Los Angeles on June 3, 1962 upon learning of a plane crash. He also said on numerous occasions, "The white man is the devil."]

REV. JAMES CONE—"What we need is the destruction of whiteness, which is the source of human misery in the world." [Quoted in David Horowitz, Hating Whitey, Spence Publishing, 1999, p. 44.]

ART TORRES (former chairman, California Democratic Party)—"Remember, [Proposition] 187 [the measure to cut public benefits to illegal aliens] is the last gasp of white America." [The Social Contact, Summer 1998, p. 290.]

WILLIE BROWN (Mayor of San Francisco, to a white parent complaining that affirmative action would penalize his children) "I don't care about your idiot children." [The Social Contract, Summer 1998, p. 290.]

Mel

absolutely not. I wouldn't dare generalize an entire population for one group of people. You have that promise from me. I wouldn't want anyone to generalize Americans, as I am not of the normal American.

Me neither - I am not of the "average" American - I think I've had a rather different life than that that is stereotyped in the media

When I travel abroad I constantly have to field these silly stereotypes about Americans from the natives of other countries - telling them they don't apply to me as a second generation American (of Puerto Rican descent - I also have some Irish in there and a bit of English - might have a little Cherokee too)

Mel