Hello posters and lurkers

In another thread I wrote a sentence that just keeps tickling in my mind. I decided to start a thread.

Someone here who has a great deal more time on their hands than I might research a couple of subjects;

1. How many sexually abused children are "same-sex" with their abusers, (as opposed to cross gender).

2. How many female homosexuals abuse children sexually?

I have come to wonder if male homosexual/pedophiles are a biological weapon against our children. I also wonder how many male homosexual/pedophiles quietly murder children by warping basic biological development of those children thus consigning them to a nasty death.

Do we have active biological-warfare agents among us trying to kill our next generation?

Who pays those male homosexual/pedophiles?

Just some honest questions...
KenBean

Just do a google and you will find that the vast majority of child molestation cases are HETEROSEXUAL in nature, so I can only conclude that your little post is another attempt at anti-homosexual propoganda.

It would appear that homosexuals are more given to molestation than heterosexuals:

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet2.html

Why, I do not know. I have friends and family members who are homosexuals, and see no reason to believe that they are inherently given to child molestation. I find the idea that homosexuals are some sort of biological weapon prepostrous.

Paul Cameron is a right wing propogandist. I am shocked you would believe such a source! I have lost all respect for you, Ben!
It is people like you who believed German propoganda that Jews drank the blood of Aryan children. You really should be EMBARASSED for posting and believing that! Are you drunk again?

give us a research link, TQ...from a hetero ...or a non pedophile male homosexual.
Ken

http://adoption.about.com/od/gaylesbian/f/molest.htm

http://www.rtis.com/reg/bcs/pol/touchstone/april97/mueh.html

Ben, please apologize for your slanderous acceptance and promotion of the bigot's link!

I don't think a person sexual orientation has anything to do with whether or not they are a pedaphile. Certainly Gender does, statistically, but I think attempts to link homosexuality & pedophilia together is just another example of homophobia.

Exactly!
And you will find excellent examples of homophobia among some members of this board, including certain mods. Bent, please acknowledge the vileness of the link you supplied.

The only logical conclusion here is these sexual deviants will seek out children because they are not mature enough to realize what is going on and thus are not as likely to put up much resistance. Lets drop the PC bullsh!t here. Gay men are far and away the greatest majority of child molesters.

I knew nothing about him when I posted that link. He seems to be a complete loon. He was apparently banned from the American Psychological Association when he violated ethical practices while seeking to prove that homosexuals were inherently criminalistic.

Thank you Ben for your honesty.
Others take note of the aburdity of that source.

Really, so the APA banned him for investigating the patterns and behaiviors of a sexually deviant group? In my book this is a ringing endorsement of this guy. Guess he had someting to say that they just didn't want to hear. PC STRIKES AGAIN.

Theres is a difference between conducting an investigation and violating ethical practicies in presenting your findings.

I have no link to it, but the GAO (the federal auditing agency in the USA) for some reason, in the 1990's, reviewed all the available literature on the subjects raised in the original post. There are virtually NO reliable research or statistics to answer the questions of whether sex offenders were themselves victims of sexual abuse in their childhood, nor research to show that victims go on to repeat the behavior.

As to the initial question, I will indeed quote the source. The most reliable source in the entire Western world, Abigal Van Burean (Dear Abby), or her twin sister from Iowa, Ann Landers, said that 90% of all pedophilia is committed by STRAIGHT HETEROSEXUAL VAGINA-PENETRATING MACHO MEN. Well, that's not exactly her words.

Heterosexual pedophilia is well documented and disgustingly common, but what's almost disgusting, is that straight men as a group don't get labelled with it the way gay men are slandered by that label. Gays don't molest in any greater degree than straight men do.

Women pedophiles? How many crazy adult women molest teen-age boys and thereby boost the boy's image as a pus*y fuc**r?

Whenever you hear claims that gay men are predominantly pedophiles, IT IS A GOD DAMNED LIE.

Are you some sort of psyco whack job? You don't appear to use reason before opening your mouth, that much is certain. Biggoted moron.


The source

A hundred times greater? From a heterosexual? 100 times greater? And we have idots like you on here claiming this kind of ######? Maybe you should move out of the trailer park and move up into the hills where the cops can't get to you as easily. You have issues, that is certain.

TQ, you shuold have gone further in with one of your links and used the source material which I did here. It shows definative proof that biggots like Nomad will lie if the truth does not fit his agenda.

An Ken, I seriously hope this thread was satire. For someone that normally comes across as intelligent to actually consider this sort of thing is disturbing beyond belief.

Hatred of homosexuals brings out a very disgusting irrational side of a lot of people, very similar to the way Nazis used hatred of Jews.
Homosexuals lives are threatened daily in America. This is both a civil rights battle and a fight for survival battle.

TQ, it is part of a ploy. You are actually helping thier cause by ringing this bell so much. For anybody to actually believe some of what has been posted in this thread they would be mentally damaged.

In some ways a ploy. In some ways and in some individuals, the murderous hatred is real.
America will finally grow into a civilized society when homosexuals have equal rights and we have universal health care.

God KenBean, you sure are an idiot. Once again right-wingests resort to extremities.

My thanks to the gentlemen here who know how to flush excrement down the toilet.

I'm no radical gay, and one reason I live peacefully in Thailand is that the only people here who throw this vomit in our face is....homophobic western foreigners, rednecks, idiots, bigots, etc.

Nah, I don't want to go back to Houston and feel that I can only admit to being gay when I'm in a gay neighborhood.

Ladies and gentlemen
I began this thread with some honest questions.....QUESTIONS.....OK?

Some pretty bright people read this forum, and for the present, my questions have been answered pretty thoroughly.

I have seen no reputable links to research that demonstrates a basis for expecting male homosexuals to be male-child molesters any more than any other sexually oriented person.

Therefore, thank each of you for peeking around in the existing literature to check it out.

As some of you know, I am a native born Houstonian. Some years ago the "Montrose" section of Houston was "flaming gay" territory with indescriminate sex trysts being discussed 24 hours a day on every street corner. There was one of my favorite restaurants down there, and I could not go there without having my hiney pinched, or being verbally propositioned.
I finally quit going there those years ago.

Recently a friend of mine told me the eatery was still there, and I made the observation I just made here.
He told me: "Don't worry about it, Ken, those folks have all gone home sick for mom to take care of...or they have died...in a very nasty way."

Well...that is very sad, but indescriminate sexual activity passes various bugs...rubbers or not.

I hope I have provoked some thought in this thread, and just perhaps put a very pointed light on some under-breath whispered rumors.

Again, thank each of you who did a little research in spite of PC bullcorn. My work-days run to 14 to 16 hours these days, and I have not had the time to do that research.
Best regards
KenBean

......your welcome....

Yes, Mr. Ken, many gays have died. But I think your info is very dated. People on the latest HIV meds are living for decades and quite often die of something else.

Thanks again, kenbean. I moved to Houston in 1989 but didn't frequent any part of the Montrose until my straight recovering alcoholic young son started selling condoms at the shop right off of Westheimer and Montrose. No, I'm not making this up; truth is stranger than fiction. The store's name was "Condoms Galore." I also used to run into my son when we went to different 12 step programs in the Montrose; he lived in the Montrose with his straight friend Butch, the lead singer of Twenty Foot Fall.

I'm gay, and maybe I'm over the hill, but when I finally starting attending those venues (like that 24 hour restaurant on Westheimers - Charlie's?), I never got my hiney pinched. I would have remembered that.

However, if you're good looking and hanging around the best-known gay neighborhood in Texas, YOU might get some friendly pinches, especially if you were sending out the wrong signals. Honestly, I don't know any lecherous gay men who sexually come on to men they think are straight. Even they are more subtle than that.

I finally moved to the Montrose when I returned in 2002. I only stayed about six months. Oh, I used to meet my straight alcoholic son at the cofeehouses in the Montrose, and he got me a one-day job in the neighborhood, too. The most that the gay couples did in public was to imitate the straight couples: holding hands, maybe even hugging or kisisng. With their clothes on, in public.

However, the neat part was that when I was sitting with my son in one of those coffeehouses or bars or nightclubs, he could say as part of the conversation, "My father is gay" and the normal response from his straight friends was "Cool, no problem with that, man."

However, back home in the New Chinatown off of West Bellaire, I lived in a straight Asian neighborhood, and my Vietnamese boyfriend (who sang in the restuaurants along that strip in the evenings) had to play straight. We went inside my favorite mechanic repair place (very multi-racial place) and the Vietnamese cashier right off said to my boyfriend, without suspecting his gender orientation, "I know you - you are songer!!

As Thaiquila mentioned, being gay in America is a matter of survival. As you may know, a gay banker left a Montrose gay venue several years ago, and was followed and killed by a group of straight teenage boys from the northern suburbs.

Dude YOURE GAY?@???!?!?!?re#?f?sdaf?!q!?!

Call your nearest Gestapoleitstellen, and have him 'removed', right?

no....I'm cool w/ TQ and he's gay. I just didn't know.....

I think KenBean is a biological weapon against common sense.

Thanks for the compliment, Haupt. Apparently I made sense to you before I admitted what straight men don't hesitate to mention: what I prefer.

Many bigots are "prejudiced" precisely because they make judgments before examining the evidence. All you straight guys know far more gay men and lesbians than you realize. They work at the next desk, they operate the convenience store, etc.

Here in Thailand, where anybody can have any preference, I had a cute little delivery boy, about 25 years old, that would bring my groceries. I was in the store with my Thai boyfriend recently, and the delivery boy spoke to us. Only then did my gay lover inform that the "boy" was a Tom, a macho lesbian. I had no idea. I made a similar mistake in Malaysia chatting up a waiter who turned out to be a short-haired hetero girl.

Jesus' advice that "By their fruit shall they know them" is that each individual should be judged by what he or she does, not "You shall know fruits because they're queer."

KenBean, if your question is, is it PLAUSIBLE that gay men might somehow be a biological warfare device?

I mean...I guess? Almost any number of things are PLAUSIBLE.

The likelihood that it is true is very minimal.

Shame on you, Bent. It is NOT plausible.

"Plausible" is not something that requires a whole lot of actual evidence. So while it might be plausible, I don't regard establishing something as plausible as being very high up on my chain of proof.

so....me having sex w/ ur mom is plausible?

Much more plausible than the original absurd hate mongering accusation.

YESSSSSSSSSS....but then again...the chances of gay people being rounded up into a capsule and launched from a cannon at an enemy in expectance to release some sort of biological gas isn't very plausible I'm assuming...