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Thaiquila
This is nothing short of genocide of poor Americans citizens:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6062902093.html

This regime has declared war on the poor of America. They want them dead. Dead as cannon fodder in Iraq. And if old and infirm, dead for lack of health care.

You voted for this man?
Mobster989
There is a way to solve this, it's called a background check. If the citizenship of an individual is in question then you just have the FBI do a quick run down of their history. And before you start saying something about their privacy rights all the FBI does it ask is use already legal methods. It has nothing to do with wiretaps or bugging houses. It's simply detective work, you know like asking questions.

There is an even simpler way to solve this. Build the great wall of america and deport the illegals. Or if that's too much concrete just eliminate socialist programs like medicare.
Thaiquila
Eliminate Medicare and Medicaid?
Why not just shoot millions of people in the head then to put them out of their misery.
It is the outrageous murderous greed and selfishness of right wing necons that is about to cause the biggest pendulum shift to the left in US history.

You guy claim to be pro life. Very cynical of you. You are actually RADICALLY PRO DEATH and murder, directly or indirectly, of poor, mostly colored people, abroad AND at home. Don't deny it, it is you.

Thank you jagoffs.
Haupt
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Jun 30 2006, 12:31 PM) *
You guy claim to be pro life. Very cynical of you. You are actually RADICALLY PRO DEATH and murder, directly or indirectly, of poor, mostly colored people, abroad AND at home. Don't deny it, it is you.

Thank you jagoffs.

Hey, man....I don't agree w/ 99% of what stealth, Mr. Left, and the rest of the lot say, but you can't deny that they all have the best intentions for people in mind.
Thaiquila
QUOTE (Haupt @ Jun 30 2006, 06:22 PM) *
Hey, man....I don't agree w/ 99% of what stealth, Mr. Left, and the rest of the lot say, but you can't deny that they all have the best intentions for people in mind.

Throwing 90 year old poor black US citizen stroke victims in nursing homes out on the street is the BEST INTENTIONS? No, it is not. It is shamless murder.
Haupt
but they didn't do that personally....and I don't even know if ANYONE did that? I didn't see it myself....You can't look at them and think of them as a group....you can see what group they support, but in the end, let each individual be judged by what he himself has done...
Thaiquila
QUOTE (Haupt @ Jun 30 2006, 06:50 PM) *
but they didn't do that personally....and I don't even know if ANYONE did that? I didn't see it myself....You can't look at them and think of them as a group....you can see what group they support, but in the end, let each individual be judged by what he himself has done...

HUH???
If you support ending Medicaid, you support throwing millions of Americans on the street to die. CONSEQUENCES. Bush orders bombing. He did this PERSONALLY as much as the bomber.
Haupt
Ya, but I doubt Stealth threw a 90 yr old lady out of a nursing home...and I also doubt he supports it...same w/ Mr. Left.....I think we're talking about generally good people here.....just we all have different ideas about things..
Thaiquila
QUOTE (Haupt @ Jun 30 2006, 06:58 PM) *
Ya, but I doubt Stealth threw a 90 yr old lady out of a nursing home...and I also doubt he supports it...same w/ Mr. Left.....I think we're talking about generally good people here.....just we all have different ideas about things..

I don't understand your though processes.
If you CUT off MEDICAID for millions of people, then many of them DIE.
If you are actively supporting ENDING Medicaid, and you have nothing else to replace it, you are advocating letting PEOPLE DIE. Got it, now?
Fit2BThaied
If we're going to save money and balance the federal budget and start paying down the incredibly unpayable national debt, then throw out all the neocons who are terrible spenders. I'd like to call them "tax and spend" neocons, but they reduce taxes and increase spending.

Our country does not need the world's largest police force. We could spend half as much on defense and still ensure the security of the "Americans" who live in "America."

Let's not lump Medicare (for senior folks) with Medicaid (for not-senior folks). It's not even as simple as I wrote it in the last sentence.
John L
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Jun 30 2006, 11:38 AM) *
This is nothing short of genocide of poor Americans citizens:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6062902093.html

This regime has declared war on the poor of America. They want them dead. Dead as cannon fodder in Iraq. And if old and infirm, dead for lack of health care.

You voted for this man?


I thought we were trying to keep from wasting money by taking care of all the illegal aliens who should be using their own country, as in Mexico, to fund their welfare? Are you serious, or just playing the Court Fool TQ?


QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Jun 30 2006, 02:53 PM) *
HUH???
If you support ending Medicaid, you support throwing millions of Americans on the street to die. CONSEQUENCES. Bush orders bombing. He did this PERSONALLY as much as the bomber.


Why would requiring nothing but proof of citizenship be such a terrible thing for American citizens? That would be quite easy, I should think. Are you full in your senses TQ? I realize that you are great advertisement for this site and tend to draw HUGE response, but are you not using a bit too much liscense here?
Thaiquila
I am all for cutting off illegals. The true bush evil agenda is to also cut off poor American citizens who cannot prove their citizenship. READ the article.
John L
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Jun 30 2006, 04:48 PM) *
I don't understand your though processes.
If you CUT off MEDICAID for millions of people, then many of them DIE.
If you are actively supporting ENDING Medicaid, and you have nothing else to replace it, you are advocating letting PEOPLE DIE. Got it, now?


Actually, the average person finds it hard to understand YOUR thought processes. Do you take "shock theorapy" to go with your depression? No?

Again, I thought this was all about proving citizenship so as to qualify for it's funding. Based upon your thesis, if ALL the world's population, what is it now, 7-8 billion? If they all decided to partake of our system and crowded here, would you believe that we should appease them by giving them access to what our citizens enjoy? Are you aware of the costs? Are you sane?
Thaiquila
Read the article. Many poor rural Americans, who are clearly citizens, do not have access to the paperwork to prove it!!!!!!
John L
QUOTE (Fit2BThaied @ Jun 30 2006, 11:42 PM) *
If we're going to save money and balance the federal budget and start paying down the incredibly unpayable national debt, then throw out all the neocons who are terrible spenders. I'd like to call them "tax and spend" neocons, but they reduce taxes and increase spending.


I will agree with you here Fit'. Those who are fiscally irresponsible are worthy of getting the boot. However, who will replace them? Jackasses? In case you are not into history, the Jackasses were even WORSE! The Republicans, who commit this outrage, are just Jackass Lite.

Further, you are confusing irresponsible fiscal discipline with income generation. Lowering certain tax rates are highly conducive to tax generation. I realize that the Kook Left Fringe refuses to see the logic in this, but I would have thought that by now, with all the links I have provided, you would finally realize that lower taxes on investment stimulate MORE investment and generate higer revenue rates. I guess I was wrong.

QUOTE
Our country does not need the world's largest police force. We could spend half as much on defense and still ensure the security of the "Americans" who live in "America."


That is correct. Unfortunately, if we are going to enjoy a world trade situation, in which many other countries gain, we are IT via default. There is simply no one else left to assume the role. And before you say "UN", forget it. They are corrupt, and unable to do anything short of holding conferences, using harsh language, and acheiving no real lasting results. Other than having a place to vent one's spleen, and bash the US, they are of no value.

QUOTE
Let's not lump Medicare (for senior folks) with Medicaid (for not-senior folks). It's not even as simple as I wrote it in the last sentence.


Correct, but was this thread not about proving citizenship and how the Bush Administration was committing genocide?


QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Jul 1 2006, 12:28 PM) *
I am all for cutting off illegals. The true bush evil agenda is to also cut off poor American citizens who cannot prove their citizenship. READ the article.


My G-d!, I can't realize which is greater: your overly complex brain, or your overly simplistic ability to reason.
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