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Gore_Lost
Mexicans Lower US Flag at Maywood CA Post Office and Raise Mexican Flag.
How much more will it take? Federal Property?!?! Cmon!


First a little background on Maywood, California.
The South LA area city of Maywood is an interesting anomaly. Over 95% Hispanic, the city has openly vowed to make itself a "sanctuary city" for illegal immigrants.

First, the city eliminated the Police Department's traffic division after complaints that officers unfairly targeted illegal immigrants. Then it made it much more difficult for police to tow cars whose owners didn't have driver's licenses, a practice that affected mostly undocumented people who could not obtain licenses.

In January, the City Council passed a resolution opposing a proposed federal law that would criminalize illegal immigration and make local police departments enforce immigration law. Now, some in the community are pushing to rename one of the city's elementary schools after former Mexican President Benito Juarez and debating measures to improve the lives of illegal immigrants.

The city has become a Mexican Seperatist playground.

Save Our State and the Minutemen (American's by the way) staged an organized protest there this past weekend and were met with violence and biased media coverage. we sit around and complain about the problem and these folk in Southern California are the only ones doing anything about it.
Fox news seems to have lost their way and the only one that covered this is Lou Dobbs.

VIDEO LINK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tITLjc9OwgA
MrLeft
Interesting post.

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/176057.php



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MAYWOOD, CA, 26 August 2006--Maywood handily fought off an invasion today, as the minuteman-style group Save Our State tried to force its message of rejection and hate on the small suburb on the southeast edge of Los Angeles. Five hundred people lined the barricades along the city's main street to face off against fifty SOS members behind barricades a hundred feet away.

The 28,000 residents of Maywood – a small town of just over one mile square that proudly proclaims itself 96% Hispanic – are experienced at defending themselves from oppression. The "Maywood revolution" began last fall, when residents rose up against their police chief, who routinely had used roadblocks to confiscate the vehicles of undocumented immigrants and sell the cars for public revenue. Maywoodians threw out their city council and mayor in the November elections, an election in which nearly 100% of eligible voters cast ballots, and replaced them with representatives who promptly disbanded the police traffic division, demanded an audit of LAUSD, denounced the Sensenbrenner anti-immigrant resolution, endorsed drivers licenses for all residents, and proclaimed Maywood a sanctuary city, where the police would no longer check immigration or citizenship status.

SOS members, who had declared Maywood a "lawless" city and called it "the belly of the beast," armed themselves with signs declaring immigrants "sinners" and flaunting the racist senator Tancredo for President. Like minutemen on the border who scoff at law enforcement procedures in their pursuit of immigrants, SOS proved themselves no respecters of the Maywood's electoral and legislative processes.

Maywood city council and residents began organizing three weeks ago, on the heels of the announcement of the SOS plan to invade their town, and they welcomed allies from Latino, Indigenous, socialist, anarchist, and anti-racists groups from across greater L.A. By 11:00 a.m. both sides were lined up, and the chanting and shouting had begun. Maywood residents got down to business – the business of ejecting SOS – with gritty determination. At a church nearby, the Mayor and council members signed up people to vote and file for citizenship.

The nearly all-white Save Our State group has spent the past year and a half marching into predominantly Meso-American neighborhoods and workplaces to mock Mexican, Central American, and Indigenous cultures, denounce local governments, and prevent Mexican-descent workers from working. The SOS invasion of Brown people’s territory – always with police escorts – caught media attention when they invaded the predominantly Chicano city of Baldwin Park to attack a Native American and Chicano-centered public artwork there with the stated intention of “punishing” the city financially.

Even before Saturday's protest officially began, an SOS woman strode through the heart of the Maywood group, coming up from behind them, and a cadre of twenty cops helped her through the shouting crowd. She was grabbed from behind but released by the crowd around her. For the next three hours, SOS repeatedly sent provocateurs, each time with police escorts, to invade and rile up the pro-migrant crowd. In another foray, the cops pushed a woman counter protestor to the ground, injuring her in order to allow a minutewoman to pass. Only one pair of about twenty different intruders were turned away by the police when the pro-migrant protestors intercepted them first at the back of the crowd, on the corner of Slauson and Pine Avenue. The crowd roared, "La migra, policía – la misma porquería."

SOS members routinely encourage each other to arm themselves for protests, and routinely show up with mace, pepper spray, knives, and guns. From the organization’s beginnings, its leadership has encouraged weapons and violence, going so far as to urge members to bring baseball bats to a demonstration. SOS members, including their self styled “leader” and San Bernardino school board candidate Joe Turner, have been arrested for assault more than once. In Laguna Beach they appeared with Nazi flags. One SOS scofflaw followed a car full of counter protestors in a high speed gun-waving chase. They’ve openly applauded unprovoked police violence against counter protestors.

SOS instigated the apartheid-style "Anti-Illegal Immigration Ordinance" that has claimed a foothold in a few small towns in Pennsylvania and New Jersey, and in Escondido, California. The ordinance declares that the presence of undocumented people "leads to higher crime rates, contributes to overcrowded classrooms and failing schools, . . . and destroys our neighborhoods and diminishes our overall quality of life," and proclaims such people "public nuisances."

The latest target in their catalog of violence has been school children at the Chicano-Indigenous Academia Semillas del Pueblo, whom at least one SOS member threatened to bomb as SOS prepared to demonstrate against the school. When the parents in the El Sereno neighborhood organized to defend the school, SOS decided to stay home and cancelled their protest.

It took only about 45 minutes of shouting, accompanied by snare drums and a mariachi band, before the pro-migrant protestors determined to confront Save Our State. About twenty-five Chicanos, Blacks, and whites had gone around the block and returned to urge the protestors to meet up with SOS around the corner. Women pushing strollers, grandparents, bikers, college students, workers, and kids giving up their Saturday joined with ANSWER-LA and marched south on Pine Avenue, intending to come up behind the SOS location on Slauson and Flora Avenue. They chanted "La lucha de obrera no tiene fronteras." Neighbors and children with Mexican flags cheered them on.

But police from Maywood, Bell Gardens, and a contingent from Huntington Park in full riot gear, decked out like a squadron of Marines, moved the barricades and turned back the marchers at Flora and East 50th Avenue. Included in the police presence along Slauson was a lone Victorville officer in uniform who was also identified as a minuteman. When one protestor asked an officer why the police had determined to face their residents and keep their backs to the intruders, the officer accused the protestor of turning a "nice" conversation "hostile" and evaded the question when it was repeated. On the way back, the protestors noisily reminded the recently-reprimanded Maywood police, "Whose streets? Our streets!"

Tempers rose with the temperature. The nearly all-white SOS rowdies continued their taunts and catcalls, and the Maywood defenders responded with "¡Fuera racistas!" SOS waved half a dozen large U.S. flags as they shouted that Maywood was "lawless" and "un-American," and insinuated that SOS were the true U.S. patriots. One SOSer waved a placard declaring the people of Maywood "traitors."

It took only a moment, a quick dash to the flagpole at the post office, and then a cheer went up from the crowd. A Mexican flag was flying from the previously empty flag pole. The crowd turned north to face it, some people cheering, some shocked. When a socialist group objected to the flag, a fight nearly broke out, but the parties were separated to shouts of "¡Unidad!" If SOS were "patriots," Maywood protestors were having none of it.

Twenty police swarmed the flag pole, splaying the "perpetrator" who'd raised the flag against the wall and beating him on the back of the legs with a baton. Then they set to work to bring down the flag. The crowd quieted with disappointment. But the ropes twisted, the flag wrapped itself in the cords. A Corporal Serrota tried to spin it loose, but the ropes only knotted up further, above and below the flag. The flag had freed itself and was holding on by a single clip, fluttering in the wind. Someone in the crowd shouted, "How many Maywood cops does it take to lower a flag?" and the laughter began. There the flag waved, about a quarter of the way down the pole, as the cops fumed and called in superiors. A custodial worker from the post office reached through a barely opened-door to hand the cops some keys, but they were no help. The cops gave up and took positions protecting the waving Mexican flag. Finally, the cops gave up and retreated, walking backward in lockstep, batons raised in self-defense, squeezing out and away from the hostile crowd to the other side of the barricade. One protestor looked up toward the still-waving flag and called it "magic."

Meanwhile, SOS had raised a U.S. flag on an empty city flag pole at their end of Slauson without police interference.

The person who raised the Mexican flag commented that "both the flag and I got beaten, but we're both still flying. I just dived at the flag pole, took my flag off its stick, and pulled it up the pole. The police grabbed me, splayed me out . . . " Here he demonstrated the requisite pose and yanked up the back of his shorts. " . . . and [Officer] Inouye hit me with his baton." The red welt was obvious to the small group around him. "But I didn't get arrested. The flag and I are free." He still held the flag's stick in his hands.

At 2:00 p.m., the police escorted SOS to their cars, although protestors had gotten no closer than forty feet to them. Meanwhile, Maywood citizens and their supporters were left to walk through areas the minutemen had invaded to make their way to their cars. The protestors shouted out, "Que viva la raza! We're not criminals, we're not terrorists! We're going to fight for our rights, we're going to fight against racism" and, to the retreating minutemen, "Fuera chicken!" They raised a chorus of "Ay, ay, ay, ay, canta y no llores . . . " as the last SOSers headed west with their police protection.

But Maywood upped the stakes for SOS, and the raising of the flag a new level of resistance against SOS's brand of in-your-face, violent racism. SOS, which had promised its members security for their vehicles, found their tires slashed, cars spray painted, and one car's rear window broken out. This time, in the tiny sanctuary enclave of Maywood, SOS's violence was met with violence. One protestor concluded the confrontation: "I don't think they'll be coming back to Maywood."
MrLeft
I checked out these SOS people.

Wow - the are FU&*% in the head something fierce.



Besides some people wanting to provoke in Mayfield and discussion about coming armed and ready to use. Besides one jamoke saying he's not afraifd of anyone and wants to get things riled. Beised all sorts of racists comments and a very screwed up agenda I saw this quote from one member:

I hate to say it, but I think our movement needs a few martyrs (remember the Alamo!) I'm not volunteering for martyrdom, but I'm doing this because I firmly believe that it is my duty as a parent to protect my children's birthright. I hope it doesn't come to that, but this is a cause that I'm willing to kill and die for. Now that I've freaked everyone out, is anyone goin from San Diego county? I'm in La Mesa (just E. of San Diego). I'm still tentative, but I'm gonna try like hell to be there.


Another wote: Maybe we should bring a fire hose

An ***** thinks he's going to war: Dont let your gaurd down for a second! Watch each others backs like you are in a combat zone. Some of you are playing down the danger to aviod frightening people; this is a bad idea you will be much better
off to know what your enemy is capable of and to organize to prevent them from Utilizing their tactics.
go out there with a clear head and a plan, do not let anyone get behind you, eyeball anyone within
20 feet of you look them in the eye, look at their hands. Dont let these A-holes suprise you!





Holy schnit - hate is alive and well!
MrRight
This is scary. The mexican government encourages their citizens to do this too. They do it in the hope to divide us, and to eventually get their own representation into government offices, and then open up more doors for more and more illegals to come in.

Mexico is not too secret even about it's desire to almost reclaim parts of the south west.

This needs to met with the national guard, and fast. I fear for the children of our nation and for their children who will be brought up by their parents knowing something and having to live their lives with so much change. It will then beextrememly different because we would become over 50% hispanic, a non english speaking nation, with no desire to assimilate, with this new part of the population that would gain government control in much the nation.

Many of these people do not pay taxes and don't spend money here now either.

Mow your own freakin lawns people and paint your own homes!

We need to halt this and now.
MrLeft
Let's send all the AMERICANS to France. You know those Americans that burn the American Flag. Send all the Race Haters to their own island so they can live with only their people.

Americans do much worse to their own country then immigrants do. Yet here you guys are crying because they put up a flag.

Don't get me wrong I don't agree with nor do I think they should be allowed to fly it. Let's be honest though. This would not happen if America would stop being hypocrites and start following the LAW themselves.......Hypocrisy will always cause division if maericans as a WHOLE cared so much. Things like this would not happen.

You don't need to fear Mexico you need to fear America Land of the hypocrites and Home of the Rich. Mexico will not War with America. Let's try and get Americans off of welfare and make them work then maybe Immigrants will not have to be hired to do the jobs AMERICANS don't want.

I know plenty of trailer trash of all races that sit and do nothing. While I don't agree with Illegal Immigrants and agree that the problem needs to be fixed. I also see that there are immigrants of many races that do not work as hard as the illegal immigrants from Mexico. It is racist when you point out one race. Illegal immigrants are not just Mexican they are from all over.......Wake up people
dkward2
If I was going to rephrase MrLeft's arguments, I would do so this way:

"Anyone who disagrees with open borders is a racist."
"It is America's fault that this is happening."

Hmm. Playing the race card: Check. Member of the "blame America first crowd:" Check.

Perhaps, MrLeft, since you seem to be so bent on NOT enforcing our laws, we should stop enforcing the laws that protect your rights? If you can so arrogantly ignore the law, why can't others?

I hope you NEVER say that anything violates your rights again, not even being thrown in prison without cause. If you won’t enforce the law, you won’t have any rights. You are a hypocrite.

QUOTE (Left)
You don't need to fear Mexico you need to fear America Land of the hypocrites and Home of the Rich. Mexico will not War with America. Let's try and get Americans off of welfare and make them work then maybe Immigrants will not have to be hired to do the jobs AMERICANS don't want.
This paragraph in particular shoes what a vile ideology we are dealing with. "America the Rich" is an accusation, because he hates rich people (jealousy). Then, the tired old argument that Americans won't do job x is brought out. Soooo, Mr Left is saying that Americans are both Rich and Lazy.

Peddle your ignorance else where. Try telling it to the white men who died a short while back in the coal mines. Try telling it to the 74% of agricultural workers who are AMERICANS. AT LEAST you are for kicking people off welfare. I was thinking you were a complete nut. Kudos.
Poetic_Terrorist
all those involved that are employed at this postal office should be let go immediately and indefinitely and arrested as well as any supporter of such an action should also be arrested, charged and tried for treason and if found guilty be hung or deported.
Fit2BThaied
QUOTE (dkward2 @ Aug 31 2006, 02:26 AM) *
If I was going to rephrase MrLeft's arguments, I would do so this way:

"Anyone who disagrees with open borders is a racist."
"It is America's fault that this is happening."

Hmm. Playing the race card: Check. Member of the "blame America first crowd:" Check.

Let's not be absurd. I don't agree with open borders, and wouldn't accuse somebody of racism if that's all they said. I conclude, though, based on continued posts in this forum and elsewhere, that folks like Gore Lost/MH posts exactly like a racist who hates Hispanics, has nothing positive to say about them, continually posts half-truths and lies against them, keeps mentioning only the criminals against them, etc.
MrLeft
QUOTE (dkward2 @ Aug 30 2006, 12:26 PM) *
If I was going to rephrase MrLeft's arguments, I would do so this way:

"Anyone who disagrees with open borders is a racist."
"It is America's fault that this is happening."

Hmm. Playing the race card: Check. Member of the "blame America first crowd:" Check.

Perhaps, MrLeft, since you seem to be so bent on NOT enforcing our laws, we should stop enforcing the laws that protect your rights? If you can so arrogantly ignore the law, why can't others?

I hope you NEVER say that anything violates your rights again, not even being thrown in prison without cause. If you won’t enforce the law, you won’t have any rights. You are a hypocrite.

This paragraph in particular shoes what a vile ideology we are dealing with. "America the Rich" is an accusation, because he hates rich people (jealousy). Then, the tired old argument that Americans won't do job x is brought out. Soooo, Mr Left is saying that Americans are both Rich and Lazy.

Peddle your ignorance else where. Try telling it to the white men who died a short while back in the coal mines. Try telling it to the 74% of agricultural workers who are AMERICANS. AT LEAST you are for kicking people off welfare. I was thinking you were a complete nut. Kudos.


You are obviously the most narrow minded individual alive.....You read nothing that I say. You take a glance and just see YOUR view......If you don't want to hear the ideas or OPINIONS of others then what case are you trying to make. Find a forum that agrees with you so you can all hate the world together.

Disagreeing with open borders??? I agree that the borders need to be handled correctly. It is America's fault because they obviously have not fixed the ptoblem which is why it is so easy to cross the border! You have probably never been poor which is why you do not understand why these people long for a decent life in America. I don't agree but I can have compassion and understanding.

First of all I have no authority to enforce laws that is left to our Law Enforcement and Judicial System.

Second I am not saying that the laws should not be enforced. I am saying IF you are going to enforce laws on Illegals it needs to start with the Americans. If every American would not hire an illegal immigrant where would they find work. If every immigrant was then turned away there would be no need for them to want to come here because they would be just as poor. That is something that I do not see happening. Thus you will continue to have the masses of poor people striving for the better life of America.

Wake up buddy blame is on everyone even your beloved CORRUPT AMERICA. Sooner you open your eyes the less ignorant you will be.
TheMatrix
This is all staged by our government as it secretly prepares the formation of the North American Union.
Poetic_Terrorist
QUOTE (TheMatrix @ Sep 1 2006, 05:36 AM) *
This is all staged by our government as it secretly prepares the formation of the North American Union.


It wont go over nicely... that will be the start of a new civil war, liberal left wing pansies might welcome it, but true conservative patriotic americans will NOT! even those who support Bush right now..

if anything...

a democrat will win the white house and welcome the NAU into existance making the GOP look like angels... it might be all part of the NeoCon plan.
dkward2
Left, you jumped off the deep end accusing the Minute Men and S.O.S. of being hate groups.

Furthermore, if it was a bunch of rich Mexicans coming over the border to exploit American workers, you wouldn't be blaming America. You are blaming America because you refuse to assign any blame to the poor Mexicans.

The people in Maywood are responsible for what they did. Each individual, whether poor or rich, is responsible for their actions. The Minute Men are right to be pissed off at what they have done. Eliminating traffic cops and working to make your city a haven for illegals? I'm pissed too, and I don't even live in the area.

America has laws on the books like what you are talking about. I agree that punishing the hiring of illegals is an important part of the solution. It needs to be enforced. I also believe that when the jobs dry up, the illegals would leave or starve. There would also be no incentive to come in the first place.

However, it isn't hate for people to be mad at others for breaking the law, regardless of their race. We are supposed to be understanding when a group of foreigners comes into our country illegally and raises their flag? What other word is there than invasion?
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