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ustrader
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55 percent of Americans in this ABC News/Washington Post poll say they'd like to see the Democrats take control of Congress in 2006. And if the election were today, registered voters would favor the Democrat in their congressional district by 52 percent to 37 percent.

That 15-point margin is numerically the biggest for the Democrats since an ABC/Post poll in September 1984 (they ultimately lost 14 seats), although about the same as a 14-point Democratic lead in one poll in 1996 (when they gained nine).

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/PollVault/story?id=1283170


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Bush Approval Ratings:

RCP Average

08/24 - 08/30

Approve 38.8%

Disapprove- 56.0%

Spread- -17.2%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/archive/?poll_id=19

Congressional Vote

RCP Average

08/22 - 08/30

Republicans-37.5%

Democrats-50.0%

Spread- -12.5%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/arc...poll_id=14#data

Direction Country Going.

RCP Average

08/10 - 08/27

Right Direction- 25.0%

Wrong Direction- 67.0%

Spread- -42.0%

Congressional Approval Ratings

RCP Average

08/17 - 08/30

Approve- 28.5%

Disapprove- 59.5%

Spread- -31.0%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/arc...poll_id=18#data


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A survey by the Wall Street Journal and NBC News in late July found that only 38% of all voters said their representative "deserves to be re-elected" -- the lowest level of support recorded by this survey so far this year.

More broadly, the June Pew survey found that nearly six in 10 (57%) said they would prefer if "most" members of Congress were defeated in November -- 20 percentage points higher than said so at this stage of the campaign four years ago.

Growing dissatisfaction crosses party lines. Fewer than half of all Republicans (43%) currently think most members of the House should be re-elected -- this despite the fact that the GOP controls the chamber. Just under a quarter of all Democrats (22%) and independents (24%) want to see most members reelected.
What a difference an unpopular war and problems on the home front have made: Four years ago, 53% of Republicans, along with nearly half of all Democrats (45%) and 36% of independents thought most Representatives should be returned to office.

http://www.pewtrusts.org/ideas/ideas_item....urvey%20Results


Yet? I ponder how accurate were the polls in 2000, 2002 and again in 2004. They showed similar outcomes as I recall.

Some insight perhaps?


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Elections projections

Senate-

Current: 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 51 GOP, 47 DEM, 2 IND

DEM +3, GOP -4, IND +1

http://www.electionprojection.com/images/SenateMap06.gif
House-

Current: 232 GOP, 202 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 225 GOP, 210 DEM, 0 IND

DEM +8, GOP -7, IND -1

http://www.electionprojection.com/images/HouseMap06.gif

Source:
http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2006.html


Would perhaps the DAMocrat’s failure to gain the House and Senate be clearly as an abstract failure as they and their media friends have so abundantly projected that Iraq and the War on Terror is?

Perhaps equally a defeat and failure if they cannot gain either the House or the Senate by a substantial margin, given their years of relentless defeatist cynicism and naysayer prognostications as to the state of the Nation and world they and their biased media polls have so purveyed for these so many years?

Would anything less than a complete thrashing of the so called war mongering Republican Neo-con Political machine be anything less than a complete dislocation and absolute confirmation of just how out of touch the DAmocrats are with the mainstream of America? Especially when all matters of news reporting goes forward in ever pounding frequencies of negativity heavily in their favor and, as intended, against any and all odds of the remotest possibilities of any Republican power retention in either house of Congress and the White House what so ever?

I ponder, given the poll data combined with the national and international perceptions, as so frequently expounded, as to the absolute failure of the US Government in all manners of activities. Could anything less than complete control of Congress by the DAMocrats not be viewed as Victorious as the fallacious Hezbollah’s claims with Israel as they stand upon the Billions of Dollars of rubble and ruins of their so called Victory?

Would a marginal gain of one house by but 1 to 2 votes or so be anything but confirming a hollow Victory for DAMocrat's against a Government so assumed to be defeated, so pronounced as inept, devoid of any success and so swallowed up in abstract failures in all manners of activities, Policies and or National and or International events?

IF I voted DAMocrat, which I have more often than not, I would expect nothing less than a rout and a complete regaining of control of both houses of Congress by substantial margins given the perceptions of this Government internally and externally.

Anything less I would consider as an absolute defeat given the world's self created perception of the US Government’s ineptness and its combined failures in its policies and practices these last 6 years.

Surely, these perceptions should assure that victory if they are indeed representative of a true perception and fact by the American people.


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Nomad
Good point Trader. The left would have everyone believe the majority of Americans are so fed up with the current state of affairs and will sweep them to power. And you are right. Based on their hyperbole and propoganda anything less than control of both houses should be objectively viewed as a failure. However they will gain control of neither. I expect a 4 or 5 seat gain in the house with the senate remaining the same. The heavy campaigning has not yet begun and as always the fence sitters will prefer the devil they know.

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Thaiquila
Bunch of bull from you pathetic LOSER neo cons.
The dems will take the house solidly. You idiots don't realize that the entire house is up, and only some seats are up in the senate. The dems will gain in the senate but will not take it.
If the dems do take the senate, that would be a huge unexpected upset.
If the dems do not take the house, that would also be a huge unexpected upset.
Nobody but idiots would believe your spin that the dems are expected to take the senate.
ustrader
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Sep 6 2006, 01:06 PM) *
Bunch of bull from you pathetic LOSER neo cons.
The dems will take the house solidly. You idiots don't realize that the entire house is up, and only some seats are up in the senate. The dems will gain in the senate but will not take it.
If the dems do take the senate, that would be a huge unexpected upset.
If the dems do not take the house, that would also be a huge unexpected upset.
Nobody but idiots would believe your spin that the dems are expected to take the senate.


By the way, the next predictor update is scheduled for September 8th.


Oh my! The value of Liberal cynicism and of low expections, hey TQ?


Yet, Let us attempt to deal with some historical presidences and recent DAMocratic and media pronouncements shall we?

Facts:

1.) The DAMocrats need only a pickup of 15 seats to gain control of the house beginning in 2007 term. ( Predictor, yet to be proven right or wrong states they as of now will only pick up 8 seats) Even if they pick up 15 will they not have only a 1 vote majority?

2.) Since the end of World War II the average midterm seat loss for the president’s party is 24 seats.

3.) Moreover, when the president’s approval rating is below 50 percent, the average midterm seat loss is 38 seats and according to data compiled by pollingreport.com, George Bush’s average approval rating in March was only 37 percent.

4.) Recent national polls also show DAMocrats with a strong lead in the “generic vote” for Congress. Between September, 2005 and March, 2006 there were 37 national polls asking Americans which party they preferred in the 2006 House elections. DAMocrats led in every one of these polls with an average advantage of about 10 percentage points


5.) The old very reliable political axiom that ALL politicals are local, holds particularly true for mid-term elections, where historically the incumbents have tremendous advantages particularly in House elections. The main area of minority party gains and takeover has always been centered around OPEN SEATS whereby the incumbent is NOT running. Yet, in this 2006 mid-term, so far, only 16 House Republicans, along with 9 Democrats, have announced that they will not seek reelection in 2006. And many of those retiring Republicans represent safe. Thereby historically speaking the DAMocrats would have to take ALL 16 Republicans seats as well as retain all 9 DAMocratic seats currentkly vacant would they not?

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:olDaPp...us&ct=clnk&cd=1


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Democrats See Victory in U.S. House Races, Senate Within Reach

By Albert R. Hunt

Aug. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Chairman Charles Rangel and Chairman -- again -- John Dingell. Those titles will soon sound familiar.

Barring an unexpected and big event, Democrats will win control of the U.S. House of Representatives in November and conceivably the Senate, too. Whether it's a tsunami or just a powerful wave, the political dynamics are moving in that direction, or more accurately, against the Republicans and President George W. Bush.

Democratic insiders, who months ago thought their chances of winning a majority in the House were no better than even, and that the Senate was a lost cause, have become far more optimistic. Now, they say, winning the House is a lock, and the Senate is within reach.

``We have to go back to 1974 (during Watergate) to find such a favorable environment,'' says James Carville, who ran Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign. ``If we can't win in this environment, we have to question the whole premise of the party.''

More telling is that the smartest Republican political minds agree. ``The issue matrix and political dynamics are not good for us,'' says Representative Tom Davis, a Virginia Republican. ``Only some big national or international event before the election can change that.''

`People Are Angry'

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=was...id=aHczjrHrbtxo



In this inhospitable climate, the GOP could well get burned worse than initially expected. At this stage, the Crystal Ball is shifting its outlook from a Democratic gain of 6-8 to a Democratic gain of 12-15 seats in the House. We also believe that our original guestimate of a Democratic gain of 2 or 3 seats in the Senate is probably too low; we now expect a Democratic Senate gain of a minimum of 3 seats and a maximum of 6 seats--that's right, we know that the Democrats would take over the Senate at 6.

In early polls, the Democrats take the House

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0807/p01s02-uspo.html

FOX NEWS----

Election Prediction: Democrats Will Take Back House

This year’s election is three months from this Tuesday, so it’s time to go out on a limb and predict the outcome in the battle for control of the U.S. House of Representatives.

With the usual caveat that events could change the dynamic in the next three months, let me venture the following prediction: Democrats will capture a net of at least 25 seats and will control the next Congress by at least 10 seats.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,207347,00.html


Democrats enjoy lead

Bush's tepid ratings do not bode well for his party's odds in the coming congressional elections. Asked which party's candidate they would vote for if the elections were held today, 52 percent of respondents cited the Democratic Party's; 43 percent the GOP's.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/21/iraq.poll/


Like I said, anything less than a real A S S KICKING by the DAMocrats will be an UTTER FAILURE!!!

Yet, I ponder were everyone is getting the DAMocrats need only to pick up 15 seats to get a majority.

Currently there are 435 House members, of that 231 are REPUBLICANS and 201 are DAMocrats, with 1 being an Independent and 2 house seat currently vacant.

1 vacant seat from a predominate Republican district (Delay Tx) and the other from a DAMocratic district in New Jersey. We can assume these are likely to split as they were 1 each for each party.

So if the Republicans lost 15 seats now held and the DAmocrats gain them, the Republicans would have 216 and the Damocrats would have 216 with the two vacant house seat likely to be split, giving both 217 each with one independent representive out there.

(Benard Sanders of Vermont). It is assumed he will be a DAMocrat thereby giving the DAMocrats a 1 vote majority, truely not a strong position to be in particularly when straight party line voting to win votes are more and more harder to attain these days.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States...Representatives


http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalba...d=DNW2006080301

Next Predictor Revision September 8, 2006.

ustrader
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Elections projections Updated September 8, 2006

COUNT DOWN TO NOVEMBER 7, 2006 MIDTERM

60 DAYS--



Senate-

Current: 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 52 GOP, 45 DEM, 2 IND

DEM +3, GOP -2, IND +1



House-

Current: 232 GOP, 202 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 222 GOP, 213 DEM, 0 IND

DEM +11, GOP -10, IND -1



Source:
http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2006.html

That is all!! Это - все!
Thaiquila
That is all?
That is NOTHING

but a right wing propoganda site.
Wishes won't make it real.
The House will be democratic for sure, and even Howard Dean can't blow it. American voters are MAD AS HELL!!!!!!
ustrader
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Sep 9 2006, 11:17 AM) *
That is all?
That is NOTHING

but a right wing propoganda site.
Wishes won't make it real.
The House will be democratic for sure, and even Howard Dean can't blow it. American voters are MAD AS HELL!!!!!!


wink.gif 60 days and we will see hey!!

Anything less than an absolute and comprehensive complete DAMocrat a s s kicking and it will be the end for our TROUBLED FRIENDS here at the PIT, who snuggle in the vast space between Matter and Anti-matter, held fast, in perpetual pithiness and obtuse cynicisms, bound in captivity and forever bombarded by fantasies of conspiracy and ubiquitous blatancy... Troubled in misery and over burden in the debt of perpetual inconsequentiality.

Either way, if victory, they face, as now the responsible problem solvers and not their comfortable perpetual naysayer that are, the problems they so rant about as so abdundant.

Once again, they will have the opportunity to fiddle with cigars while 3,000 die or pehaps deal clearly and effectively with the great and deadly issues of our time far better than before perhaps...

Then again, if no substaintial victory is attained by the DAMocrats, they will be a greater force for further divison and partisianship, leading the country further towards a Mexican style disunity.

If they lose or better yet, hold a bear marginal ineffectual control of one house, I gleefully fear oblivion awaits the left wing of the DAMocratic Socialist agenda. Thusly allowing for once again the middle to conservative Democrats of old I was once so embraced, to bring balance once again to this ill centered party of socialist Rainbow of "it is all about us, leftist"...Hopefully for evermore...

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Thaiquila
Bunch of crap from you as usual.
The dems will take the house.
The porkers will keep the senate.
bush will be 100 percent lame duck.
The following two years will be all about further exposure of bush as a liar, war criminal, and enemy of our beloved constitution.
Then the total pendulum change in 2008. Can't happen in 06, wait till 08.
ustrader
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Sep 9 2006, 12:59 PM) *
Bunch of crap from you as usual.
The dems will take the house.
The porkers will keep the senate.
bush will be 100 percent lame duck.
The following two years will be all about further exposure of bush as a liar, war criminal, and enemy of our beloved constitution.
Then the total pendulum change in 2008. Can't happen in 06, wait till 08.

ustrader


November 7, 2006 52 Days from now

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Elections projections ( September 15 2006 update)

Senate-

Current: 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 52 GOP, 46 DEM, 2 IND

DEM +3, GOP -2, IND +1

http://www.electionprojection.com/images/SenateMap06.gif

House-

Current: 232 GOP, 202 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 222 GOP, 213 DEM, 0 IND

DEM +11, GOP -10, IND -1

http://www.electionprojection.com/images/HouseMap06.gif

http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2006.html

Next up date September 22, 2006


Another projection site

Balance of power Score Card as of September 13, 2006

House

Currently

Democratic –202

Dem-Safe- 184 Dem-Favored- 8 Dem-Leaning-11 Projected-203

Republican – 231

Rep-Safe- 174 Rep-Favored- 26 Rep-Leaning- 20 Projected-220

No clear favorite undecided- 12

If the Damocrats take ALL 12 undecided, they would have only 218 to 220 seats verses the Republicans if these projection prove correct.


Senate

Democratic- 45

Dem-Safe- 9 Dem-Favored- 4 Dem-Leaning- 5 Projected-45

Republican - 55

Rep-Safe- 7 Rep-Favored- 2 Rep-Leaning- 3 Projected-52

No clear favorite undecided- 3

If Damocrats take ALL 3 undecided, they would have only 48 to 52 Republican Senate seats, if these projections prove correct.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/06map.html

Noting oddly and suprisingly the correlation between the two different sites predictions....SURELY, with the nation going to hell in a Neofacist hand basket, as is so effervesent,as the DAMocrats so often say, there will be a a New DAMnation of America in a landside come November 7th??? ohmy.gif ohmy.gif unsure.gif

Next Update September 22, 2006
sea_of_red
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Sep 6 2006, 01:06 AM) *
Bunch of bull from you pathetic LOSER neo cons.
The dems will take the house solidly. You idiots don't realize that the entire house is up, and only some seats are up in the senate. The dems will gain in the senate but will not take it.
If the dems do take the senate, that would be a huge unexpected upset.
If the dems do not take the house, that would also be a huge unexpected upset.
Nobody but idiots would believe your spin that the dems are expected to take the senate.


Evidence? Starting every spring in an election year, the polls show the Dems winning, then as the summer fades into august, the slow slide into defeat begins.
The USA has a historical cycle of about 60 years of bouncing between the Left and the Right. The Left took over post depression ( the 30's) and lost out in the 90's. It will be about 2045 before the Left takes control of both elected branches of government.
That's if the Iranian don't use nuclear weapons to trigger the Canary Islands fault and destroy the east coast of America. That might be enough to change the cycle.
ustrader
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Elections projections ( September 25 2006 update)

42 Days till November 7, 2006

Senate-

Current: 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 52 GOP, 46 DEM, 2 IND

DEM +3, GOP -3, IND +1



House-

Current: 232 GOP, 202 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 222 GOP, 213 DEM, 0 IND

DEM +11, GOP -10, IND -1



http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2006.html

Next up date September 29, 2006


Another projection site

Balance of power Score Card as of September 26, 2006

House

Democratic –202 Dem-Safe- 184 Dem-Favored- 8 Dem-Leaning-11 Projected-203

Republican – 231 Rep-Safe- 173 Rep-Favored- 27 Rep-Leaning- 20 Projected-220

No clear favorite undecided- 12

If Damocrats take ALL 12 undecided they would have only 218 to 220 Republican House seats.

Senate

Democratic- 45 Dem-Safe- 9 Dem-Favored- 4 Dem-Leaning- 4 Projected-44

Republican - 55 Rep-Safe- 7 Rep-Favored- 1 Rep-Leaning- 3 Projected-51

No clear favorite undecided- 5

If Damocrats take ALL 4 undecided, they would have only 49 to 51 Republic House seats..

http://www.cqpolitics.com/06map.html


A Third projection site

Senate

Damocrats—50 Republicans--50

HOUSE

Damocrats – 216 Republicans—218 1---Tied



http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/

Perhaps a dominating slam Dunk for the Damocrats. If not now, as in no better time ever, yet another utter and complete failure if not.
ustrader


Elections projections ( September 30 2006 update)

39 Days till November 7, 2006

Senate-

Current: 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 52 GOP, 46 DEM, 2 IND

DEM +2, GOP -3, IND +1



House-

Current: 232 GOP, 202 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 221 GOP, 214 DEM, 0 IND

DEM +12, GOP -11, IND -1



http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2006.html

Next up date October 6, 2006

Another projection site

Balance of power Score Card as of September 29, 2006

House

Democratic –202 Dem-Safe- 184 Dem-Favored- 8 Dem-Leaning-11 Projected-203

Republican – 231 Rep-Safe- 172 Rep-Favored- 26 Rep-Leaning- 21 Projected-219

No clear favorite undecided- 13

If Damocrats take ALL 13 undecided, they would have only 216 to 219 Republican House seats.

Senate

Democratic- 45 Dem-Safe- 9 Dem-Favored- 4 Dem-Leaning- 4 Projected-44

Republican - 55 Rep-Safe- 7 Rep-Favored- 1 Rep-Leaning- 1 Projected-49

No clear favorite undecided- 7

If Damocrats take ALL 7 undecided, they would have only 51 to 49 Republican Senate seats..

http://www.cqpolitics.com/06map.html

A Third projection site

Senate

Damocrats—48 Republicans—51 1 tie

HOUSE

Damocrats – 215 Republicans—220 1---Tied

http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/

ustrader


IF NOT NOW, THEN WHEN, IF EVER???

Elections projections ( October 8 2006 update)

29 Days till November 7, 2006

Senate-

Current: 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 49 GOP, 49 DEM, 2 IND


DEM +5, GOP -6, IND +1



House-

Current: 232 GOP, 202 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 220 GOP, 215 DEM, 0 IND

DEM +13, GOP -12, IND -1



http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2006.html

Next up date October 14, 2006

Another projection site

Balance of power Score Card as of October 8, 2006

House

Democratic –202
Dem-Safe- 184
Dem-Favored-9
Dem-Leaning-12

Projected-205

Republican – 230
Rep-Safe- 168
Rep-Favored- 27
Rep-Leaning- 21

Projected-216

No clear favorite undecided- 14

If Damocrats take ALL 14 undecided, they would have 219 to 216 Republican House seats.

Senate

Democratic- 45
Dem-Safe- 9
Dem-Favored- 5
Dem-Leaning- 4

Projected-45

Republican - 55
Rep-Safe- 7
Rep-Favored- 1
Rep-Leaning- 1

Projected-49

No clear favorite undecided- 6

If Damocrats take ALL 6 undecided, they would have only 51 to 49 Republican Senate seats..

http://www.cqpolitics.com/06map.html

A Third projection site

Senate

Damocrats—50 Republicans—49-- 1 tie

HOUSE

Damocrats – 219 Republicans—215 1---Tied

http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/Sep26.png

http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/

AND THE BEAT GOES ON!!
ustrader


IF NOT NOW, THEN WHEN, IF EVER???

Elections projections ( October 14 2006 update)

23 Days till November 7, 2006

Senate-

Current: 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 50 GOP, 48 DEM, 2 IND

DEM +4, GOP -5, IND +1



House-
Current: 232 GOP, 202 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 213 GOP, 220 DEM, 1 IND

DEM +20, GOP -19, IND -1



http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2006.html
Next up date October 21, 2006

Another projection site

Balance of power Score Card as of October 14, 2006

House

Democratic –202
Dem-Safe- 183
Dem-Favored-12
Dem-Leaning-13

Projected-208

Republican – 230
Rep-Safe- 166
Rep-Favored- 26
Rep-Leaning- 17

Projected-209

No clear favorite undecided- 18

If Damocrats take ALL 18 undecided, they would have 226 to 209 Republican House seats.

Senate

Democratic- 45
Dem-Safe- 9
Dem-Favored- 5
Dem-Leaning- 5

Projected-46

Republican - 55
Rep-Safe- 7
Rep-Favored- 1
Rep-Leaning- 1

Projected-49

No clear favorite undecided- 5

If Damocrats take ALL 5 undecided, they would have only 51 to 49 Republican Senate seats..

http://www.cqpolitics.com/06map.html

A Third projection site

Senate

Damocrats—50 Republicans—49-- 1 tie

HOUSE

Damocrats – 226 Republicans—205 -4---Tied

http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/Sep26.png

http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/

AND THE BEAT GOES ON!!!
ustrader

IF NOT NOW, THEN WHEN, IF EVER???

Elections projections ( October 21 2006 update)

16 Days till November 7, 2006

Senate-

Current: 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 50 GOP, 48 DEM, 2 IND

DEM +4, GOP -5, IND +1



House-

Current: 232 GOP, 202 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 213 GOP, 220 DEM, 1 IND

DEM +20, GOP -19, IND -1



http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2006.html

Next up date October 28, 2006

Another projection site

Balance of power Score Card as of October 22, 2006

House

Democratic –202
Dem-Safe- 183
Dem-Favored-13
Dem-Leaning-13

Projected-209

Republican – 230
Rep-Safe- 162
Rep-Favored- 26
Rep-Leaning- 19

Projected-207

No clear favorite undecided- 18

If Damocrats take ALL 18 undecided, they would have 227 to 207 Republican House seats.

Senate
Democratic- 45
Dem-Safe- 9
Dem-Favored- 5
Dem-Leaning- 6

Projected-47

Republican - 55
Rep-Safe- 7
Rep-Favored- 1
Rep-Leaning- 1

Projected-49

No clear favorite undecided- 4

If Damocrats take ALL 4 undecided, they would have only 51 to 49 Republican Senate seats..

http://www.cqpolitics.com/06map.html

A Third projection site

Senate

Damocrats—50 Republicans—50-- 0 tie

HOUSE

Damocrats – 227 Republicans—206 2---Tied

http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/Sep26.png

http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/

AND THE BEAT GOES ON!!!

ustrader

IF NOT NOW, THEN WHEN, IF EVER???

Elections projections (October 29 2006 update)

9 Days till November 7, 2006

Senate-

Current: 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 51 GOP, 47 DEM, 2 IND

DEM +4, GOP -5, IND +1

Projection changes +1 Republican, -1 Damocrats,




House-

Current: 232 GOP, 202 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 216 GOP, 219 DEM, 0 IND

DEM +17, GOP -16, IND -1

Projections changes - +3 Republicans, -2 Damocrats, -1 Independent



http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2006.html


Next up date November 6, 2006

Another projection site

Balance of power Score Card as of October 29, 2006

House

Democratic –202
Dem-Safe- 183
Dem-Favored-15
Dem-Leaning-12


Projected-210

Republican – 230
Rep-Safe- 160
Rep-Favored- 25
Rep-Leaning- 22

Projected-207

Projection changes- +1 Damocrats, -1 undecided or to close to call

No clear favorite undecided- 18

If Damocrats take ALL 18 undecided, they would have 228 to 207 Republican House seats.

If Damocrats take ONLY half of 18 undecided,or 9, they would have 219 to 216 Republican House seats.

If Damocrats take only 45% (rounded)of the 18 undecided or 8, they would have 218 to 217 Republican House seats\

If Damocrats take Only 40% (rounded) of the 18 undecided or 7, they would have 217 to 218 Republican House seats.


Therefore, of the 18 yet undecided seats in the House that are to close to call, the Damocrats MUST TAKE NO LESS THAN 45% or 8 of the remaining 18 to take a 1 seat majority in the house.

Senate
Democratic- 45
Dem-Safe- 9
Dem-Favored- 5
Dem-Leaning- 7

Projected-48

Republican - 55
Rep-Safe- 7
Rep-Favored- 1
Rep-Leaning- 1

Projected-49

Projection Changes- +1 Damocrats -1 Undecided or to close to call

No clear favorite to close or undecided- 3 ( Mo, TN and NJ)

If Damocrats take ALL 3 undecided, they would have only 51 to 49 Republican Senate seats..

If Damocrats take two(2) of the 3 undecided, they would have only 50 to 50 Republican Senate seats..

If Damocrats take one (1) of the 3 undecided, they would have only 49 to 51 Republican Senate seats..

Therefore, the Damocrats MUST TAKE ALL THREE OF THE UNDECIDED TO TAKE THE SENATE…

http://www.cqpolitics.com/06map.html


A Third projection site Thru October 27, 2006

Senate
Damocrats—48 Republicans—51-- 1 Independent Change +1 Republican, -1 Damocrats +1 Independ

HOUSE
Damocrats – 226 Republicans—207-- 2---Tied Change -1 Damocrats + 1 Republicans

http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/Sep26.png

http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/


And the Beat Goes on!!!
ustrader


IF NOT NOW, THEN WHEN, IF EVER???

Elections projections (November 4 2006 update)

3 Days till November 7, 2006

Senate-

Current: 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 51 GOP, 47 DEM, 2 IND

DEM +3, GOP -4, IND +1

+1 Republican, -1 Damocrats,




House-

Current: 232 GOP, 202 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 216 GOP, 219 DEM, 0 IND

DEM +17, GOP -16, IND -1

Projections changes - +3 Republicans, -1 Damocrats, -1 Independent



http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2006.html

Next up date November 6, 2006

Another projection site

Balance of power Score Card as of November 4, 2006

House

Democratic –202

Dem-Safe- 183 (-1)
Dem-Favored-17 (+2)
Dem-Leaning-13 )(+1)

Projected-212

Republican – 230

Rep-Safe- 157 (-3)
Rep-Favored- 24 (-1)
Rep-Leaning- 21 (-1)

Projected-202 (-5)

Projection changes- +5 Damocrats, 0 undecided or to close to call

No clear favorite undecided- 21 (+3)

If Damocrats take ALL 21 undecided, they would have 231 to 202 Republican House seats.

If Damocrats take ONLY half of 21 (Rounded)undecided,or 11, they would have 222 to 212 Republican House seats.

If Damocrats take only 40% (rounded)of the 21 undecided or 8, they would have 220 to 215 Republican House seats.

If Damocrats take Only 30% (rounded) of the 21 undecided or 6, they would have 218 to 217 Republican House seats.

Therefore, assuming all else in this project is correct of the 21 yet undecided seats in the House that are to close to call, the Damocrats NEED ONLY TAKE 30% or 6 of the remaining 21 [B]to take a 1 seat majority in the house.

Senate

Democratic- 45
Dem-Safe- 10 (+1)
Dem-Favored- 4 (-1)
Dem-Leaning- 7 (0)

Projected-48

Republican - 55
Rep-Safe- 7 (0)
Rep-Favored- 1 (0)
Rep-Leaning- 1 (-1)

Projected-48 (-1)

Projection Changes- +1 Damocrats 0 Undecided or to close to call

No clear favorite to close or undecided- 4( Mo, TN, VA and NJ)

If Damocrats take ALL 4 undecided, they would have only 52 to 48 Republican Senate seats..

If Damocrats take 3 of the 4 undecided, they would have only 51 to 49 Republican Senate seats..

If Damocrats take two(2) of the 4 undecided, they would have only 50 to 50 Republican Senate seats.. ** VP decides a tie***

If Damocrats take one (1) of the 4 undecided, they would have only 49 to 51 Republican Senate seats..

Therefore, the Damocrats MUST TAKE THREE OF THE UNDECIDED TO TAKE THE SENATE * the VP decides a TIE…

http://www.cqpolitics.com/06map.html

A Third projection site Thru November 4, 2006

Note site projected Kerry and a house majority of Damocrats by votes and electorial college in th elast election

Senate

Damocrats—51 Republicans—49-- 0 tied Change +3 Republican, +3 Damocrats 0 Independents

HOUSE

Damocrats – 240 Republicans—195-- 0---Tied Change +13 Damocrats -12 Republicans

http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/

And the beat goes on!!! laugh.gif
Nomad
Looks like the chickens were counted too soon......................

QUOTE
Summary of Findings

A nationwide Pew Research Center survey finds voting intentions shifting in the direction of Republican congressional candidates in the final days of the 2006 midterm campaign. The new survey finds a growing percentage of likely voters saying they will vote for GOP candidates. However, the Democrats still hold a 48% to 40% lead among registered voters, and a modest lead of 47%-43% among likely voters.

The narrowing of the Democratic lead raises questions about whether the party will win a large enough share of the popular vote to recapture control of the House of Representatives. The relationship between a party's share of the popular vote and the number of seats it wins is less certain than it once was, in large part because of the increasing prevalence of safe seat redistricting. As a result, forecasting seat gains from national surveys has become more difficult.

The survey suggests that the judgment of undecided voters will be crucial to the outcome of many congressional races this year. As many as 19% of voters now only lean to a candidate or are flatly undecided. The Democrats hold a 44% to 35% lead among committed voters. But the race is more even among voters who are less strongly committed to a candidate; those who only lean to a candidate divide almost evenly between Republicans and Democrats (5% lean Republican/4% lean Democrat).

Republican gains in the new poll reflect a number of late-breaking trends. First, Republicans have become more engaged and enthused in the election than they had been in September and October. While Democrats continue to express greater enthusiasm about voting than do Republicans, as many Republican voters (64%) as Democratic voters (62%) now say they are giving quite a lot of thought to the election. About a month ago, Democratic voters were considerably more likely than GOP voters to say they were giving a lot of thought to the election (by 59%-50%). As a result, Republicans now register a greater likelihood of voting than do Democrats, as is typical in mid-term elections.

The Republicans also have made major gains, in a relatively short time period, among independent voters. Since early this year, the Democratic advantage in the generic House ballot has been built largely on a solid lead among independents. As recently as mid-October, 47% of independent voters said they were voting for the Democratic candidate in their district, compared with 29% who favored the Republican. Currently, Democrats lead by 44%-33% among independent voters.

Notably, President Bush's political standing has improved in the final week before the election. Bush's job approval rating among registered voters has risen from 37% in early October, to 41% in the current survey. Mirroring the GOP's gains among independent voters, Bush's rating among this crucial group of swing voters now stands at 35%, its highest point this year.

The final pre-election survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted among 2,369 registered voters from Nov. 1-4, finds that voter appraisals of the national economy also have improved. In the current poll, 44% rate it as excellent or good, compared with 36% who held that view in mid-October. Republicans and independents have a much better view of the economy than they did just a few weeks ago. Among independent voters, 41% rate the economy as good or excellent, compared with 29% in mid-October.

In addition, Sen. John Kerry's "botched joke" about the war in Iraq attracted enormous attention. Fully 84% of voters say they have heard a lot or a little about Kerry's remarks ­ with 60% saying they have heard a lot. By comparison, just 26% say they have heard a lot about President Bush's statement that he will keep Donald Rumsfeld as secretary of defense until he leaves office in 2009. Most voters say Kerry's statement is not a serious consideration in their vote, but 18% of independent voters say it did raise serious doubts about voting for a Democratic candidate.

Link


Looks like independants and undecideds are breaking GOP. But then I never believed in the dem strength in the first place. All this was MSM hype, lies and spin. But true to form expect these whiney little dems to scream election fraud as soon as their loss is apparent.................................

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ustrader


Summary of party control of the HOUSE, SENATE, and PRESIDENCY since the 34th Congress in 1855….

Controlled by;

HOUSE---Damocrats (47 times)---SENATE—Damocrats (32 times)----Damocratic PRESIDENCY--(28)

HOUSE---RepuGlicans-(30 Times)--SENATE---RepuGlicans-(44 Times)----Republican PRESIDENCY—(25)

HOUSE-Tied—(1)---SENATE-Tied---(0)

Same Party Controlling it ALL the HOUSE, SENATE and PRESIDENCY.

Damocrats—21 times-------RepuGlicans—18 times

Same Party Controlling HOUSE and SENATE not PRESIDENCY

Damocrats—12 times---Republicans—11 times

Split Party, one Controlling HOUSE and other the SENATE---13 times

Spilt party control With a Damocratic PRESIDENT—5

Split party control With RepuGlican PRESIDENT--8


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34th--------1855–1857—(Split) HOUSE---Dems SENATE—Reps---PRES-Dems
35th--------1857–1859---HOUSE---Dems—SENATE---Dems–--PRES---Dems
36th-------1859–1861----(Split) HOUSE---Dems ---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Dems
37th--------1861–1863----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps ( At WAR-Civil War)
38th--------1863–1865----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps ---PRES---Reps (At WAR-Civil War)
39th--------1865–1867----HOUSE—Reps---SENATE—Reps---PRES---Dems
40th--------1867–1869----HOUSE—Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Dems
41st---------1869–1871----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
42nd--------1871–1873----HOUSE---Reps—SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
43rd--------1873–1875----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
44th--------1875–1877----(Split) HOUSE-Dems---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
45th--------1877–1879----(SPLIT) HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Reps---PRES--Reps
46th--------1879–1881----HOUSE---Dems----SENATE---Dems---PRES--Reps
47th--------1881–1883----(Split)HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems & Reps Tied 2 others---PRES-Reps
48th--------1883–1885----(Split)HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
49th--------1885–1887----(Split)HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Dems
50th--------1887–1889----(Split)HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Reps---PRES--Dems
51st--------1889–1891----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
52nd-------1891–1893----(Split)HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
53rd-------1893–1895----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES---Reps
54th-------1895–1897----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
55th-------1897–1899----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps (At War Spanish-American)
56th------1899–1901-----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
57th------1901–1903---HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
58th------1903–1905---HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
59th------1905–1907----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES--Reps
60th------1907–1909----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
61st------1909–1911----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
62nd-----1911–1913----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
63rd-----1913–1915-----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems
64th-----1915–1917-----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES---Dems (At War-WWI)
65th-----1917–1919-----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---DEMS ---PRES---Dems( At War WWI)
66th-----1919–1921-----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Dems
67th-----1921–1923-----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Reps
68th-----1923–1925-----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Dems
69th-----1925–1927-----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Dems
70th----1927–1929------HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Dems
71st---1929–1931-------HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Dems
72nd--1931–1933-----(Split)-HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Reps---PRES—Dems (Great Depression)
73rd---1933–1935-----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems
74th---1935–1937-----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems
75th---1937–1939-----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems
76th---1939–1941-----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems ( At War-WWII)
77th---1941–1943-----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems ( At War-WWII)
78th---1943–1945-----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems ( At War-WWII)
79th---1945–1947-----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems
80th---1947–1949----HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES--Dems
81st---1949–1951----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems ( At War Korea)
82nd---1951–1953----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems ( Ar War-Korea)
83rd---1953–1955---HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES--Reps
84th---1955–1957---HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Reps
85th--1957–1959----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Reps
86th--1959–1961----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Reps
87th--1961–1963----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems
88th--1963–1965----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems (At War-Vietnam)
89th--1965–1967----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems ( At War Vietnam)
90th--1967–1969----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems (At War Vietnam)
91st--1969–1971----HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Reps (At War Vietnam)
92nd--1971–1973---HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Reps (At War Vietnam)
93rd--1973–1975---HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Reps (At War Vietnam)
94th--1975–1977---HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Reps
95th--1977–1979---HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems
96th--1979–1981---HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Dems
97th--1981–1983---(Split) HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Reps---PRES--Reps
98th--1983–1985---(Split) HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Reps---PRES--Reps
99th--1985–1987---(Split) HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Reps---PRES--Reps
100th--1987–1989—HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Reps
101st--1989–1991---HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Reps (At War Gulf War)
102nd--1991–1993---HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES--Reps
103rd--1993–1995---HOUSE---Dems---SENATE---Dems---PRES-Dems
104th--1995–1997---HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES--Dems
105th--1997–1999---HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES—Dems ( At War Kosovo)
106th--1999–2001---HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES---Dems
107th--2001–2003---HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES--Reps
108th--2003–2005---HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps---PRES-Reps
109th--2005–2006---HOUSE---Reps---SENATE---Reps—PRES--Reps
110th—2006-2008---HOUSE---???---SENATE---???---PRES—Reps

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VOTE!!! or shut the hell up!!!

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html
ustrader



IF NOT NOW, THEN WHEN, IF EVER???

Elections projections (November 6 2006 update)

TOMORROW November 7, 2006

Senate-

Current: 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 49 GOP, 49 DEM, 2 IND




House-

Current: 232 GOP, 202 DEM, 1 IND

Projected: 216 GOP, 219 DEM, 0 IND



http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2006.html

VOTE!!!

Another projection site

Balance of power Score Card as of November 6, 2006

House

Democratic –202
Dem-Safe- 182
Dem-Favored-17
Dem-Leaning-14 )

Projected-213

Republican – 229
Rep-Safe- 157 (0)
Rep-Favored- 23
Rep-Leaning- 19

Projected-199

No clear favorite undecided- 23

Assuming all other projections are correct???

For RepuGlicans to maintain the majority in the HOUSE they must take a minimum of 19 of the 23 undecided or to close to call seats, to have 1 seat majority of 218 to 217 Damocrats House seats.
Anything less than 19 and they loss the HOUSE majority.

Senate

Democratic- 45
Dem-Safe- 10
Dem-Favored- 4
Dem-Leaning- 7

Projected-48

Republican - 55
Rep-Safe- 7
Rep-Favored- 1
Rep-Leaning- 0

[B]Projected-48 [/B]

No clear favorite to close or undecided- 4( Mo, TN, VA and NJ)

Again assuming all other projections are correct???

If either party only gets 2 of the 4 undecided and or to close to call Senate seats, the Republicans maintain a majority in the Senate assuming ALL independents vote Democratic for the majority with the VP deciding the issue of control.

For the Damocrats to take the Senate they must take 3 of the 4 undecided and or to close to call Senate seats to gain control of the Senate. Anything less and the Republicans maintain control of the Senate
http://www.cqpolitics.com/06map.html

A Third projection site Thru November 6, 2006

Note site projected Kerry and a House majority of Damocrats by votes and electorial college in the last election. THEY WERE WRONG BY SIGNIFICANT MARGIN!!!

Senate

Damocrats—50 Republicans—49-- 1 tied

HOUSE

Damocrats – 239 Republicans—196-- 0---Tied

http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/

Now a 4th reputable site Real Clear Politics!!

Senate:

Likely Damocrat- +4
Leans Damocrat - +2

Likely RepuGlican- 0
Leans RepuGlican- +2

Net Likely and leans- +4 Damocrats

Tossup’s SENATE

Missouri—Last poll--
Rasmussen 11/05 - 11/05 500 LV 49 48 2 ( R)Talent +1.0

Montana—Last poll
Rasmussen 11/04 - 11/04 500 LV 48 50 2 (D)Tester +2.0

Virginia—Last Poll
SurveyUSA 11/03 - 11/05 741 LV 44 52 1 ( D )Webb +8.0

Maryland—Last Poll
SurveyUSA 11/03 - 11/05 663 LV 46 49 2 (D )Cardin +3.0

Rhode Island—Last Poll
USA Today/Gallup 11/01 - 11/04 880 LV 45 48 7 (D)Whitehouse +3.0

If polls hold true DAMocrats will gain 4 of 5 tossup Senate seats, summarized if all polling is correct into 8 seat Senate gain for DAMocrats and control of the SENATE!!!

HOUSE

Leans Damocratic--+13
Leans RepuGlican--+21

Net Leans summary--+8 RepuGlicans

Tossup’s ( 14 )

[UNew Hampshire 2nd—Last poll[/U]
University of New Hampshire 11/02 - 11/05 312 LV 39 48Undecided-10% {D) Hodes +9.0

Indiana 2nd-Last Poll
Research 2000 10/30 - 10/31 400 LV 47 50 Undecided –3% (D) Donnelly +3.0

Florida 13th—Last Poll
RT Strategies/CD 10/24 – 10/26 1005 LV 47 49 Undecided –5% (D) Jennings +2.0

New Mexico 1st—Last poll
SurveyUSA 11/03 - 11/05 688 LV 48 50 Undecided –2% (D) Madrid +2.0

Ohio 1st—Last poll
RT Strategies/CD 10/24 - 10/26 999 LV 46 48 Undecided –7% (D) Cranley +2.0

Connecticut 4th-Last Poll
Reuters/Zogby 10/24 - 10/29 500 LV 44 51 Undecided –4% (D) Farrell +7.0

Indiana 9th—Last poll
SurveyUSA 10/31 - 11/02 538 LV 46 44 Undecided –4% ( R ) Sodrel +2.0

Illinois 6th—Last Poll
Reuters/Zogby 10/24 - 10/29 500 LV 40 54 Undecided –4% (D) Duckworth +14.0

Pennsylvania 6th—Last Poll
Reuters/Zogby 10/24 - 10/29 500 LV 44 49 Undecided –7% (D) Murphy +5.0

Arizona 5th-Last poll
SurveyUSA 10/29 - 10/31 643 LV 46 48 Undecided –2% ( D )Mitchell +2.0

Connecticut 5th-Last Poll
Research 2000 10/27 - 10/29 600 LV 43 46 U]Undecided –11%[/U] (D) Murphy +3.0

California 11th—Last poll
RT Strategies/CD 10/24 – 10/26 983 LV 46 48 Undecided –6% (D) McNerney +2.0

Ohio 2nd-Last Poll
SurveyUSA 10/29 - 10/31 618 LV 45 48 Undecided –7% (D)Wulsin +3.0

Kentucky 5th-Last Poll
SurveyUSA 11/03 - 11/05 485 LV 45 50 (D)Yarmuth +5.0

House summary, going in the Republicans have a +8 lead in the leaning category. The Damocrats are leading in 13 of 14 tossup house seats yet only in 2 seats by margins above the undecided percentages. Thusly, they must win nearly all of the tossup House seats to perhaps gain control of the Congress if real politics projections are correct??




And the beat goes on!!! laugh.gif
Nomad
QUOTE
Arizona 5th-Last poll
SurveyUSA 10/29 - 10/31 643 LV 46 48 Undecided –2% ( D )Mitchell +2.0


J.D. Hayworth will not lose here. I know. I live in the 5th. And I still say the GOP will hold congress, both houses. Fk the MSM polls.......................................

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ustrader
I do not post this to prognosticate but to compare just how the media and the Damocratic pundits drum beat VICTORY as "already a done deal " while the battle still rages...

I voted weeks ago...


QUOTE

Defeat in battle as victory carries no ill self-concept, as both have the same efficient endeavors yet different outcomes. Only to be delayed a while to be recycled once again in the next battle...TRADER

Out of sighted light is but concealed darkness, yet, in the light, is darkness espied!!! -TRADER...
expat
waiting for Virginia and Montana for the Senate - Dems leading in both races.... the House is long gone....
ustrader
In a hope for a better America, it is, in the end, but an echo, asking a shadow to dance.

NOW LET THE GAMES BEGIN!! smile.gif laugh.gif

expat
Apparantly Bush is taking it more seriously - as Rummy is gone. he is inditable and they need the extra time to push through Bob Gates...
IvyLeagueElitist
How did this thread get lost? How did the thread where the Repugs were chest-thumping eachother pre-election not have anything post election?

I mean, c'mon, like any good Repug, ustrader and Nomad were completely and utterly wrong. How's J.D. Hayworth working for ya, Nomad?

gg no rm
ustrader
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Feb 14 2007, 03:19 PM) *
How did this thread get lost? How did the thread where the Repugs were chest-thumping eachother pre-election not have anything post election?

I mean, c'mon, like any good Repug, ustrader and Nomad were completely and utterly wrong. How's J.D. Hayworth working for ya, Nomad?

gg no rm


Wrong is relative as being, some are right yet not relative, some are wrong yet relative.

To be wrong one must first set the contextual standard that makes them wrong, as in incorrect: not correct; not in conformity with fact or truth,contrary to, unsuitable, in error, causing any harm or injury,ill-timed: badly timed.

Perhaps a contextual elite is in order as in the select, the best as in determined by or in context.

CLEAN Biden sizzles!!

WASTED Old home Obama, slups..



IRAQVOTE Hidabeast studders, stutters and Huh! Huh's and O's the crowd of New Hampshire's Inquirying Minds!!...

IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (ustrader @ Feb 14 2007, 11:08 PM) *
Wrong is relative as being, some are right yet not relative, some are wrong yet relative.

To be wrong one must first set the contextual standard that makes them wrong, as in incorrect: not correct; not in conformity with fact or truth,contrary to, unsuitable, in error, causing any harm or injury,ill-timed: badly timed.

Perhaps a contextual elite is in order as in the select, the best as in determined by or in context.

CLEAN Biden sizzles!!

WASTED Old home Obama, slups..



IRAQVOTE Hidabeast studders, stutters and Huh! Huh's and O's the crowd of New Hampshire's Inquirying Minds!!...



Wow.

You were wrong.


Abosolutely, horribly, wrong. No thesaurus has enough words to describe how wrong you and Nomad were.

The word for the year- Wrong.
ustrader
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Feb 16 2007, 05:28 AM) *
Wow.

You were wrong.
Abosolutely, horribly, wrong. No thesaurus has enough words to describe how wrong you and Nomad were.

The word for the year- Wrong.



Yet, in clarity, as to what, pray tell?

Perhaps in the mantle of the following, is your clarity?

QUOTE
It takes less time to do a thing right, than it does to explain why “it was done wrong”.
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow


Obviously, a wisdom, those thinking their right, who where really wrong before, have yet to learn, that in leadership, the present and the morrow, has far more to do with "doing a thing right", than the past’s reliance on explaining what was done wrong. Then leadership is not what is proven very right now is it?

In being wrong, is it as to the party who in pretense hides in the shadows from the responsibilities of consequences of leadership. Which, as to some false deniability, to rant, “always wrong,” pointing to those that lead, whom they are now a part of, but far from the real leadership, they think they are.

Is being wrong, any more than being accountable as to those who directly voted for all that is wrong, who now deny it all, in reinventions of, I ,did not know or do, now, what I, did not know or do, before?

Is being wrong as to who now cannot hide from the consequences of every decision they cause in partial leadership responsibility?

If that is wrong, I for one gladly, except that mantle proudly. If it is wrong to bring the roaches of nay from out from behind their toilets of defunct Air-America-ism, into the light of the day’s responsibilities for consequences, then that is a wrong, well worth while.

If being wrong is to note how they hide, as fowl weather sailors, when the winds are against them, as if not equally responsible for all that they say, is political wrong, then this is a wrong that is good.

If being right about those who now, having been brought into the light of day responsible for the consequences of all that is done, now unable to hide in shadows of denial, even as reinvented fair weather sailors catching the shifting winds blown by their own denial of responsibility, can not be right, when they were equally wrong any more.

If that is wrong, to the wrong goes the victory and to the right goes away the stealth from outcome in the responsibilities for consequences.


Tibi seris, tibi metis.
IvyLeagueElitist
The many instances of wrong:


You:
"I do not post this to prognosticate but to compare just how the media and the Damocratic pundits drum beat VICTORY as "already a done deal " while the battle still rages..."

Victory was assured.

Nomad:
"J.D. Hayworth will not lose here. I know. I live in the 5th. And I still say the GOP will hold congress, both houses. Fk the MSM polls......................................."

Hayworth lost and the GOP lost both Congressional chambers.

Nomad part duex:
"The left would have everyone believe the majority of Americans are so fed up with the current state of affairs and will sweep them to power. "

And the majority of Americans were.

Nomad III:
"I expect a 4 or 5 seat gain in the house with the senate remaining the same."

25+ seat gain with Democrats winning the Senate.

Sea Of Red:
"It will be about 2045 before the Left takes control of both elected branches of government. "

Nope, onlly 12 years after losing our beloved People's Chamber and four years after losing the Senate.

Hey its Pit's favorite Republican, Nomad:
"Looks like independants and undecideds are breaking GOP. But then I never believed in the dem strength in the first place. All this was MSM hype, lies and spin. But true to form expect these whiney little dems to scream election fraud as soon as their loss is apparent................................."

Nope, completely opposite, actually.



That's just page one, shall I go on?
Nomad
Yup we did lose as did all real Americans. What bemuses here is your total fascination with me. You blow onto the board and the immediatly choose me as a target for your emotional venom. This pleases me no end....
I got to you.... Your hatred of me proves this. Tell me, do you lie awake at night thinking about Nomad? When a car cuts you off in traffic do you assume it's Nomad? When you get fired from your next minimum wage job was it Nomad that did it? Or was it Nomad that stole your last girl?

Nomad is everywhere. Nomad knows every move you make. Nomad is watching you..........................

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IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (Nomad @ Feb 15 2007, 08:22 PM) *
Yup we did lose as did all real Americans. What bemuses here is your total fascination with me. You blow onto the board and the immediatly choose me as a target for your emotional venom. This pleases me no end....
I got to you.... Your hatred of me proves this. Tell me, do you lie awake at night thinking about Nomad? When a car cuts you off in traffic do you assume it's Nomad? When you get fired from your next minimum wage job was it Nomad that did it? Or was it Nomad that stole your last girl?

Nomad is everywhere. Nomad knows every move you make. Nomad is watching you..........................

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I don't hate you, you're just the loudest on the forums and hardly anyone is willing to showcase how utterly wrong you are.

Also did real Americans vote Democrats into power on November 7th, or not?

If not, why do you hate America so very much? Just move to France you cowardly anti-American scum!

(See, this is called parody, as everytime the slightest hint of criticism of America is seen you guys engage in a knee-jerk jinoistic reaction.)
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QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Feb 16 2007, 09:29 AM) *
The many instances of wrong:
You:
"I do not post this to prognosticate but to compare just how the media and the Damocratic pundits drum beat VICTORY as "already a done deal " while the battle still rages..."

Victory was assured.

Yet, was that wrong at that moment and at that time. No, it was not and you are just plain lying to say you had any idea for sure there was any assurance what so ever of anything at that very time and at the moment of my post...

So, what we have is the idea of right from hindsight, with an emphasis on the hind in sight in the usual Moonbattery.

Yet, I ask again, what has been won and or lost, that is wrong? Is having to be responsible for a change in the consequences of what is done, is that so wrong or is it right?

What do you think will be done that is as not as wrong as it is right. Especially with this lack of abilty to overcome a veto without compromise and no ability to get much more done without compromise in either house chamber.

Is there any real assuredness in all of that? That is not wrong, that is right for America, not enough power anywhere to do anything without help, now that is the ticket I like... accountable compromise, where all must be responsible for the consequences of all they do none able to hide as roaches of nay and denial as before...


Nomad:
"J.D. Hayworth will not lose here. I know. I live in the 5th. And I still say the GOP will hold congress, both houses. Fk the MSM polls......................................."

Hayworth lost and the GOP lost both Congressional chambers.

Nomad part duex:
"The left would have everyone believe the majority of Americans are so fed up with the current state of affairs and will sweep them to power. "

And the majority of Americans were.

Nomad III:
"I expect a 4 or 5 seat gain in the house with the senate remaining the same."

25+ seat gain with Democrats winning the Senate.

Sea Of Red:
"It will be about 2045 before the Left takes control of both elected branches of government. "

Nope, onlly 12 years after losing our beloved People's Chamber and four years after losing the Senate.

Hey its Pit's favorite Republican, Nomad:
"Looks like independants and undecideds are breaking GOP. But then I never believed in the dem strength in the first place. All this was MSM hype, lies and spin. But true to form expect these whiney little dems to scream election fraud as soon as their loss is apparent................................."

Nope, completely opposite, actually.
That's just page one, shall I go on?
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I do like me some gridlock.
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