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Gore_Lost
Number two Al-Qeada Leader caught in Iraq. This definitely illuminates the purpose for being in Iraq, it is like a buglight for the terror ilk. The beauty is that he was caught alive, the down side is that the left will want him to go free.

ARTICLE LINK:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headli...ld/4161292.html

ARTICLE EXERPT:
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Sept. 3, 2006, 11:07PM
SHRINE ATTACK PLANNER CAUGHT IN IRAQ
Seen by some as No. 2 al-Qaida leader, he led act that set off wave of sectarian strife

By RICHARD A. OPPEL JR.
New York Times

BAGHDAD, IRAQ - American and Iraqi troops have captured the man who supervised the bombers of a revered Shiite shrine in Samarra last February, an act that set off a wave of brutal sectarian violence, the Iraqi national security adviser, Mouwafak al-Rubaie, said Sunday.

In a statement broadcast on national television, al-Rubaie said the second-ranking leader of al-Qaida in Mesopotamia, Hamid Juma Faris Jouri al-Saeedi, was captured several days ago as he hid among Iraqi families in a residential building. He said that al-Saeedi was operating near Baqouba, north of Baghdad, in the area where Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian-born leader of the terror organization, had sought refuge before he was killed in an American airstrike three months ago.

Al-Rubaie described al-Saeedi as al
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BlackViper
This is good news. It means that #3 got promoted

How long can the US keep playing that silly game ? not long for sure
Grizzly
QUOTE (BlackViper @ Sep 4 2006, 10:16 AM) *
This is good news. It means that #3 got promoted

How long can the US keep playing that silly game ? not long for sure

What the right fails to understand, BV, is that there are a ton of terrorists in Iraq right now that will continue on! This is almost like a knight that is out to kill a dragon coming back to show the people a toenail instaed of a head. rolleyes.gif
Gore_Lost
No, the point is your kind were clamoring that there was never any connection between Al-Qaida and Saddam. That Bush wanted to go into Iraq because of oil.
Grizzly
QUOTE (Gore_Lost @ Sep 4 2006, 01:59 PM) *
No, the point is your kind were clamoring that there was never any connection between Al-Qaida and Saddam. That Bush wanted to go into Iraq because of oil.

Sheesh! You guys are still thinking that?! Its been proven that Saddam, or Iraq, had nothing to do with 911!

BTY: Love your civil war that the conservatives say doesn't exist.
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Ben-T
What the left fails to understand, Grizzly, is that the terrorists in Iraq have no possible course of action left open to them that results in a negative impact on the USA's position in the region and a positive impact on their own. It doesn't matter how long they continue for. They can continue forever if they like. They are not actually making any strategic gains from their car bombs. Their entire strategy in Iraq is to inflict enough casualties to force a draft (And thus creating the necessary political backlash at home to force the USA to abandon Iraq). They have shown themselves however, to be incapable of inflicting nearly enough casualties to even come close to making a draft necessary.

For such an allegedly hopeless situation, it is surprising that civilian casualties in Iraq dropped by 46 percent from July to August;
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_..._violent_deaths

So how about the failure of that Baghdad security crackdown we always hear about? I guess the MSM thinks a 46 percent drop in civilian casualties in a single month constitutes a failing policy.
MrLeft
QUOTE (Gore_Lost @ Sep 4 2006, 12:59 AM) *
Number two Al-Qeada Leader caught in Iraq. This definitely illuminates the purpose for being in Iraq, it is like a buglight for the terror ilk. The beauty is that he was caught alive, the down side is that the left will want him to go free.

ARTICLE LINK:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headli...ld/4161292.html

ARTICLE EXERPT:



New Rule according to Bill Maher. "YOu can only catch the Al Qaida #2 guy once." 002.gif
dixon76710
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Sep 4 2006, 03:26 PM) *
[font=Palatino Linotype]Sheesh! You guys are still thinking that?! Its been proven that Saddam, or Iraq, had nothing to do with 911!


It has???? Who did that? Or is absence of proof, proof of absence according to your logic? MARK
MrLeft
QUOTE (Ben-T @ Sep 4 2006, 04:16 PM) *
What the left fails to understand, Grizzly, is that the terrorists in Iraq have no possible course of action left open to them that results in a negative impact on the USA's position in the region and a positive impact on their own. It doesn't matter how long they continue for. They can continue forever if they like. They are not actually making any strategic gains from their car bombs. Their entire strategy in Iraq is to inflict enough casualties to force a draft (And thus creating the necessary political backlash at home to force the USA to abandon Iraq). They have shown themselves however, to be incapable of inflicting nearly enough casualties to even come close to making a draft necessary.

For such an allegedly hopeless situation, it is surprising that civilian casualties in Iraq dropped by 46 percent from July to August;
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_..._violent_deaths

So how about the failure of that Baghdad security crackdown we always hear about? I guess the MSM thinks a 46 percent drop in civilian casualties in a single month constitutes a failing policy.


What Righties don't get is that this country has been at war almost continuosly since WWII. Curious isn't it?

If somehow we do manage to kill every single person that hates us killing their families behind bs, or stealing their resources, or whatever, then we'll (the powers that be)just invent some more people that seem to hate us for some reason and are out to get us.

This thing in Iraq is just the latest example of this country's warmongering.

You can't clean that up, no matter how hard you try, no matter how much propoganda you spew.
LooseCannon
QUOTE (Gore_Lost @ Sep 4 2006, 12:59 PM) *
No, the point is your kind were clamoring that there was never any connection between Al-Qaida and Saddam. That Bush wanted to go into Iraq because of oil.


Does this mean that we're turning yet another corner in Iraq?
Nomad
QUOTE (MrLeft @ Sep 5 2006, 08:25 PM) *
What Righties don't get is that this country has been at war almost continuosly since WWII. Curious isn't it?

If somehow we do manage to kill every single person that hates us killing their families behind bs, or stealing their resources, or whatever, then we'll (the powers that be)just invent some more people that seem to hate us for some reason and are out to get us.

This thing in Iraq is just the latest example of this country's warmongering.

You can't clean that up, no matter how hard you try, no matter how much propoganda you spew.


Never before in the history of this planet has a country with the wealth and power of the US done so little to abuse that wealth and power and done so much for the rest of the world. Had the Germans, Japanese, Russians or Muslims developed the A Bomb first you would not be able to spew the vile bile that you do now.
You can't deny that, no matter how hard you try, no matter how much propoganda you spew.

Tell you what Lefty. Since you hate the freedoms and opportunities this country has to offer why don't you grow a beard, not bathe for 6 months and wrap a well used unwashed diaper around your head. The Muslims will welcome you with open arms.

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LooseCannon
QUOTE (Nomad @ Sep 5 2006, 09:00 PM) *
Never before in the history of this planet has a country with the wealth and power of the US done so little to abuse that wealth and power and done so much for the rest of the world. Had the Germans, Japanese, Russians or Muslims developed the A Bomb first you would not be able to spew the vile bile that you do now.
You can't deny that, no matter how hard you try, no matter how much propoganda you spew.

Tell you what Lefty. Since you hate the freedoms and opportunities this country has to offer why don't you grow a beard, not bathe for 6 months and wrap a well used unwashed diaper around your head. The Muslims will welcome you with open arms.

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God dang, you are one racist prick.
Nomad
QUOTE (LooseCannon @ Sep 5 2006, 09:37 PM) *
God dang, you are one racist prick.


Islam is not a race. Are there no bounds to your ignorance???


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LooseCannon
QUOTE (Nomad @ Sep 5 2006, 09:44 PM) *
Islam is not a race. Are there no bounds to your ignorance???
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It's quite obvious who and what you were referencing, racist.

Yeah yeah yeah, I hate my freedoms...THAT'S JUST STOOPID!!

We haven't been as bad as others might have been so, just ignore the bad that we have been?

And big friggin' deal!

So what they caught No. 2!

There's hundreds more lining up behind him. For every young Muslim man we kill, his brothers, cousins, uncles, etc. will continue to take up arms against us.

It's such as shame that we haven't learned anything from history. Islam cannot be defeated. It is a religion, a belief and people are more than willing to die for a belief.

Not many are willing to die fighting for a country they believe is fighting a wrong war...

BTW...Did you guys see how Afghanistan is spinning out of control and the Taliban has reasserted itself across the south of the country...???
Ben-T
QUOTE (MrLeft @ Sep 5 2006, 08:25 PM) *
What Righties don't get is that this country has been at war almost continuosly since WWII. Curious isn't it?

If somehow we do manage to kill every single person that hates us killing their families behind bs, or stealing their resources, or whatever, then we'll (the powers that be)just invent some more people that seem to hate us for some reason and are out to get us.

This thing in Iraq is just the latest example of this country's warmongering.

You can't clean that up, no matter how hard you try, no matter how much propoganda you spew.


Nothing to clean up, its impossible to prove a negative. The burden of proof is on your shoulders, you having made the statement of value, and your case there is pathetically unconvincing.
dkward2
So there is no evidence that Saddam helped with 9/11.

....and...

what is your point?

Do we have to wait until someone kills some of us before we can act? Is that your litmus test? What if someone is helping to kill our friends? Saddam was subsidizing suicide bombers in Israel. $25,000 to the family of each filthy pig.

BTW, his connections to Al-Qaeda are now a fact. True, nothing has shown that he had anything to do with 9/11, but that point is moot.
Fox.
the iraqi resistence will continue the good figt no mattr how much it costs. they will defeat u murdururz.
dixon76710
QUOTE (Fox. @ Sep 23 2006, 12:18 PM) *
the iraqi resistence will continue the good figt no mattr how much it costs. they will defeat u murdururz.


We already won. The Iraqis are taking out their frustrations with defeat on each other. MARK
Fox.
which is all ur falt. MURDURURR!!1111
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