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cranston36
9.23.2006

Dear Ms. Rice,
I read recently how you defined the situation in the Darfur section of Sudan as ‘getting worse’.
I have been trying to follow your career during the time you have served as Secretary of State and I have to say I am not seeing anything that I expected.
You have achieved the position of Secretary of State and are the first, black female Secretary of State of the United States of America but that is just a title.
Your work in Iraq and the Middle East does not stand out. Iraq is an occupied nation and even thought the security situation in Occupied Iraq is terrible because of mismanagement its not really any of your responsibility just as Occupied Okinawa did not and still does not require much attention from your office.
I can understand that if you stood up and spoke out evenly and with the force that God obviously gave you that you would be attacked by some or all of the hyenas that you serve with. At the same time those good people that you serve our nation with might find the courage to back you up though I have to tell you I doubt that would be the case.
As for Darfur in Sudan. I have been following that more closely than I have been following your career. In a related matter, I think it was within the past year and a half, some French citizens were murdered in a West African nation. I don’t think the number was more than ten French citizens. In response France destroyed the entire air force of that nation.
I suspect that what you will do about the situation in Darfur in Sudan will be nothing more than what you have done already. Your actions as Secretary of State and your simple remark about the horror and destruction taking place in that North African nation caused me to believe that you may be filling the position of Secretary of State acting as a highly paid, dandified secretary.
You have an opportunity to save lives and make a difference.
I am not concerned with your history or how you rose up to prominence by going from university to university or that your grandfather or great-grandfather was a slave who was sent to become a minister because of his fine mind. I am concerned about the women and children and men and society of the people who have lived in that part of Africa for a very long time and who are now being savaged by a bunch of ignorant, perverted madmen in and around the government of Sudan.
I won’t waste your time or my time urging you to take action. I will, however, finally get to the point. If I were Secretary of State I would pitch a fit about what is going on in Sudan, hold press conferences and use the wonders of the internet, television, radio, newspapers, magazines and my own pen to save those people in Darfur from the savage, greedy and ignorant men that are killing, raping and terrorizing them.
If I could not get the hyenas you work with to assist I would ply my trade as Secretary of State with every nation on earth until I could find one that would send the heroes to put an end to the bloodletting and set the people of Southern Sudan free.
Sudan was drawn from the dying fires of the European Empires. The fact that the northern cities are on the Mediterranean and filled with friends of Osama Bin Laden and the Saudi King should not stop all of us as humans from doing what is right.
Your decision is to decide who you are. Are you making the mistake of believing that you are what you do and as Secretary of State you cannot act with human kindness and compassion and help to bring the power of the United States of America to the aid and assistance of the weak and afflicted?
If it were in my power I know what I would do.
I would do it even if I were dismissed by the President or attacked by some of the hyenas you work with.
I have no idea what you would do. During your entire term since you took over from Colin Powell I have not been able to discern a human being directing the activities of the office of Secretary of State of the United States of America.
Your observation that it is getting worse in Darfur is a message God sent to you.
The world is not waiting to see what you will do about it because it is painfully apparent that you probably won’t do anything at all. Your job should be hard and you have been making it look easy, Ms. Rice, I fear, because you have been taking it easy.






Nomad
Darfur is not our problem. We are concentrating on fighting the WOT. We've done enough for this world in the last 100 years. Time for the UN to step up to the plate without the US. Course that will never happen. This is tribal warfare. Been going on in Africa since day one. The US can not take or should take responsibility for the actions of uncivilized societies. If this bothers you Cranston better take your cause elsewhere. The US ain't biting.

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sea_of_red
Nomad, Cranston suffers from BDS, so the most you can expect is crayons, unless of course, he finds a spray can while dumpster diving.
The Sudan is very much a part of the WoT. Why do you suppose the Muslims are slaughtering thousands of Christians in Sudan? It is the same old Koran or sword act the Muslims have been doing for centuries. The MSM isn't pointing out that those being slaughtered are Infidals, while those doing the slaughter are Muslims. I'm not sure why the MSM is sitting on that fact. Maybe you should ask them. Maybe Cranston should ask them.
Fit2BThaied
I'm willing to give the lady a break. Those hyenas do keep her busy; it's like a jungle in the Oval Office. She has 178 or more countries to keep track of. I think doctorate was earned in Cold War studies. But she's a smart person, a quick learner, a hard worker, and she supposedly has her boss's attention. But she likes to speak 198 word sentences, incessantly.

Condi Rice has been tough on the Burmese generals who control Myanmar, and that's a humanitarian position she could have ignored. She even felt obliged to remind General Sonthi and his fellow generals that Thailand should return to democratic processes, although she should have more clearly criticized the man who destroyed the fragile democracy of Thailand.

I agree that many places in the world should have their genocide problems solved by the United Nations.

Condi Rice's main problem may be that her colleagues and boss only have one, overly simplistic agenda.
sea_of_red
QUOTE (Fit2BThaied @ Sep 27 2006, 03:41 AM) *
I'm willing to give the lady a break. Those hyenas do keep her busy; it's like a jungle in the Oval Office. She has 178 or more countries to keep track of. I think doctorate was earned in Cold War studies. But she's a smart person, a quick learner, a hard worker, and she supposedly has her boss's attention. But she likes to speak 198 word sentences, incessantly.

Condi Rice has been tough on the Burmese generals who control Myanmar, and that's a humanitarian position she could have ignored. She even felt obliged to remind General Sonthi and his fellow generals that Thailand should return to democratic processes, although she should have more clearly criticized the man who destroyed the fragile democracy of Thailand.

I agree that many places in the world should have their genocide problems solved by the United Nations.

Condi Rice's main problem may be that her colleagues and boss only have one, overly simplistic agenda.


That shows you have a basic misunderstanding of how the American Political system works. PRESIDENT Bush, is President. He is NOT a tryant or dictator. As the saying goes, the President proposes, Congress disposes.
Do you really think PRESIDENT Bush wanted to halt waterboarding, which is a valuable tool for interogating Terrorists?
Don't you think that PRESIDENT Bush would get rid of the leakers at the CIA and State if he could? The N.Y> Times and the Washington Post are aiding and abbetting terrorists. Don't you think President Bush would put an end to that if he could?
Even as a majority the Demonrats are able to obstruct this Presidents ability to fight a war. If the Demonrats had gotten on board and helped, this War would be mostly finished now.
galloway
QUOTE (sea_of_red @ Sep 27 2006, 06:48 AM) *
That shows you have a basic misunderstanding of how the American Political system works. PRESIDENT Bush, is President. He is NOT a tryant or dictator. As the saying goes, the President proposes, Congress disposes.
Do you really think PRESIDENT Bush wanted to halt waterboarding, which is a valuable tool for interogating Terrorists?
Don't you think that PRESIDENT Bush would get rid of the leakers at the CIA and State if he could? The N.Y> Times and the Washington Post are aiding and abbetting terrorists. Don't you think President Bush would put an end to that if he could?
Even as a majority the Demonrats are able to obstruct this Presidents ability to fight a war. If the Demonrats had gotten on board and helped, this War would be mostly finished now.



Not a tyrant or dictator??

Not according to the rest of the world!

Dubya is that plus STUPID.
Fit2BThaied
Bush is the Commander in Chief of the military forces of the world's only rapidly declining superpenis. Bush has just been given additional executive powers, short of actual torture. Habeas corpus and the 4th amendment are going down the toilet.

Condi Rice is a better secretary of state, as far as qualifications, then Colin Powell was. However, she still must take orders from the chief.
sea_of_red
Evidence please! I see a lot of wild claims but NO EVIDENCE that the USA is declining in any way. Where is your evidence? As far as the rest of the world's attitude toward the USA, the rest of the world all have one thing in common, the desire for a Green Card. So you claim one thing, yet the evidence says another.
I think I'll stick with the facts.
The USA is still the worlds greatest economy, our Military power is INCREASING in regards to the rest of the world, and the rest of the world still wants to 'be like mike' which is a cultural power no other nation can touch.
galloway
QUOTE (sea_of_red @ Oct 1 2006, 08:29 AM) *
Evidence please! I see a lot of wild claims but NO EVIDENCE that the USA is declining in any way. Where is your evidence? As far as the rest of the world's attitude toward the USA, the rest of the world all have one thing in common, the desire for a Green Card. So you claim one thing, yet the evidence says another.
I think I'll stick with the facts.
The USA is still the worlds greatest economy, our Military power is INCREASING in regards to the rest of the world, and the rest of the world still wants to 'be like mike' which is a cultural power no other nation can touch.



USA is in decline, it is monetarily bankrupt.... the government and national debt is about ready to come home to roost...China and other creditors will get pretty tired funding Dubya's mid-east tirades very shortly.

What's worse, USA will be unable to recover as Washington has sold the entire manufacturing abilities over seas..... You just need to look at the auto industry and the supporter "tool and die" sector..... its finished,,, in 5 years.... most of the "big three" will buy chinese cars and re badge them as Chevy, Dodge, etc.... Ford will probably go under in the next 3 years......

USA have given up millions of high paying manufacturing jobs.... and created low paid service sector jobs... health care will further bankrupt people with no insurance.

From a policy standpoint, USA has lost all credibility in the world..... Americans are not look upon well in ANY nation.... USA has less diplomatic power and as a result, American foreign investment will dry up

Sorry to bust your bubble.... by USA is in big trouble.......
Fit2BThaied
I generally agree with those points, Galloway, but the new economists (who perhaps are very old-fashioned) insist that the USA doesn't need all those manufacturing jobs anyway, and we have all these high tech jobs now, and that it doesn't matter that the proper accounting would show a 29 trillion dollar national debt instead of 9 trillion dollars - because of truly "voodoo economics" or false accounting.

I would add, related to the political standpoint, that the USA is morally bankrupt. The Vietnam war was stupid; Korean war ended in stalemate; Iran-Contra proved that Reagan and his staff were ruining us further. Then Afghanistan, then Iraq, next Iraq, - what's next, France and the UK?

But it's also the only superpower, militarily strong, economically powerful until the house of cards tumble and we realize that Alan Greenspan was the world's longest reigning naked emperor. Americans are great people, generally, but they often vote for the wrong candidate because the electoral process is in the ICU ward. Aliens want to escape worse poverty and worse dictatorships than what they have in their home country.

That's decline, and I'm willing to speak the truth as I understand it, because I still love my country.
Nomad
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Dow Jones nears all-time record high
By ELLEN SIMON, AP Business Writer

NEW YORK -- The Dow Jones industrial average reached a milestone Thursday in Wall Street's nearly seven-year recovery from corporate upheaval, economic recession and terrorism, briefly trading above its record high close of 11,722.98 set on Jan. 14, 2000.

The index of 30 blue chip stocks surpassed its record, rising to a high of 11,728.46 in early morning trading. Stocks closed only modestly higher amid a dearth of news that could motivate investors; still, it was the market's fourth straight advance.

"These numbers sometimes tend to act as magnets and the market is sometimes pulled up toward it," said Russ Koesterich, senior portfolio manager at Barclays Global Investments in San Francisco.

The Dow rose 29.21, or 0.25 percent, to 11,718.45. It has yet to reach its all-time trading high of 11,750.28, also set Jan. 14, 2000.

The broader Standard & Poor's 500 and Nasdaq composite indexes are far off their all-time highs, although their records were reached around the same time.

The S&P, which gained 2.56, or 0.19 percent, to close at 1,339.15, is still about 188 points below its closing high of 1,527.46, but is at a 5 1/2-year high. The Nasdaq, which rose 6.63, or 0.29 percent, to 2,270.02, is not expected to approach its high close of 5,048.62 any time soon.

The last time the Dow stood at these levels, Wall Street was propelled by wide-eyed investors eager for a slice of the wealth being generated by the dot-com and housing booms. Traders raced to buy any stocks that looked remotely promising, catapulting the major indexes sharply higher.

But after early 2000, the market began to crumble as doubts about the high-tech boom set in. Signs of recession accelerated the decline, and then the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and their aftermath sent stocks plunging.

It didn't stop there -- corporate scandals including the collapse of Enron Corp. and WorldCom Inc. also shook Wall Street.


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Nomad
QUOTE (Fit2BThaied @ Oct 2 2006, 07:56 AM) *
I would add, related to the political standpoint, that the USA is morally bankrupt. The Vietnam war was stupid; Korean war ended in stalemate; Iran-Contra proved that Reagan and his staff were ruining us further. Then Afghanistan, then Iraq, next Iraq, - what's next, France and the UK?

Of course. JESUS frowned on all these actions. All these actions that were taken to keep people free from tyranny. And, of course, JESUS disapproves of the free world warring against the muslim swine. The muslim swine that would burn every Bible and cut the throats of those that would not renounce JESUS. Nice fantasy world you live in. However JESUS does not partake in your fantasy.


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Fit2BThaied
Okay, let's talk about the DJIA and the S&P500 indexes reaching 7 year and 5.5 year highs, respectively, as if that proves the USA is not declining. Those big highs mean that if you had invested in those stock market guages at that time, you would now be drawing even, with no profits to show, only miniscule dividends from some of the stocks, not making up for the increases in living costs. In other words, with the purchase of a fresh bond, you'd be way ahead the stock market.

Two major components of those two indexes have been General Motors and Ford, each of which bled BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in domestic red ink in recent years. What percentage of the DJIA or S&P500 profits and underlying stock value, is propped up by foreign workers and foreign consumers? Well, it's nice for the USA corporations to give jobs to folks all over the world, but the economical juggernaut that once was (America's manufacturing) is dying.

Yes, morally bankrupt.
Nomad
QUOTE (Fit2BThaied @ Oct 3 2006, 01:02 AM) *
Okay, let's talk about the DJIA and the S&P500 indexes reaching 7 year and 5.5 year highs, respectively, as if that proves the USA is not declining. Those big highs mean that if you had invested in those stock market guages at that time, you would now be drawing even, with no profits to show, only miniscule dividends from some of the stocks, not making up for the increases in living costs. In other words, with the purchase of a fresh bond, you'd be way ahead the stock market.

Two major components of those two indexes have been General Motors and Ford, each of which bled BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in domestic red ink in recent years. What percentage of the DJIA or S&P500 profits and underlying stock value, is propped up by foreign workers and foreign consumers? Well, it's nice for the USA corporations to give jobs to folks all over the world, but the economical juggernaut that once was (America's manufacturing) is dying.

Yes, morally bankrupt.


Of course. And that is what people like you said when the buggy whip industry went downhill. Ever hear of a company called Google? Yahoo? They are cash cows yet manufacture nothing. The times they are a'changing.

Regarding the auto industry....... You are old enough to remember the convulsions within that industry in the 70's. Nothing new here. Just a retrenchment and consolidation. GM and Ford will survive and come back stronger then ever, despite union interference.

Regarding the stock market........... 10K wisely invested in the stock market in 1970 would be worth over 1 million today. The stock market is investing for the long haul. Those that got in at the top in 2000 still have 36 years to go. No other investment has out performed stocks in the long run. Dividends? I make 9% average on these stocks. Not miniscule in my book.

Fit, you are a defeatist. To you the glass is allways half empty. To me the glass is always half full.

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Fit2BThaied
I just checked these figures off of Yahoo finance:

1/2/1970 DJIA - 800
10/02/2006 - 11,727

That's a ratio of 14.66 to 1. If you had invested $10,000 on the first trading day of 1970 in the DJIA, you would now only have $146,587. Your figures are off by a multiple of 7, if they were based on the Dow-Jones, which obviously they can't be. I see the glass as full, and you see it as 7 glasses full.
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According to my Excel spreadsheet, a factor of 14.66 requires an interest rate for 35.75 years, to yield a compounded interest rate of 7.8%. Your mis-statement would require 21.32% compounded interest. If you could actually invest that wisely, you'd be up there with folks like Warren Buffet, George Soros, and Peter Lynch. Are you?

Actually, I've been averaging about 7.8% myself, using a socially responsible mutual fund (and prior to that, a S&P index fund). But, it took 6 years and nine months to return to where we were at the high in January, 2000.

Maybe you need to go see an ophthalmologist or oculist.

Anyway, back on topic, that doesn't prove much. Besides, Yahoo!!! doesn't make up for the manufacturing losses, even with extra ex!clama!tion marks.
Nomad
Fit, note I said "wisely" invested. Mutual funds are not a wise investment. You get some of the profits but take all of the losses. That's simply the way they work. The point of my post was that as the US economy keeps expanding the opportunity to make money in INDIVIDUAL stocks expands as well. The stock market has been providing the greatest return on money IN THE LONG HAUL. Reread my post.

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Anyway, back on topic, that doesn't prove much. Besides, Yahoo!!! doesn't make up for the manufacturing losses, even with extra ex!clama!tion marks.


Point here is we have shifted from a manufacturing economy to a service and information economy. Much the same way we did many years ago when we went from an agricultural economy to a manufacturing economy.

Your glass is still half empty....................................

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