How many prayers can I say to correct what has gone wrong?
How many prayers would it take to change this vicious course of events?
What actions can I take to fix these horrible things?
A grown man walks into a school and assaults the girl children there. He then kills one and then himself with a high powered gun.
Another grown man a thousand miles away goes into a schoolhouse and attacks a room full of girl children with a high powered gun. Five are dead today. Several others are in the hospital mortally wounded.
The doctors call it being in ‘critical condition’. They say the children who have been attacked by these adults are in ‘critical condition’. That’s the medical term.
What is the human term?
If you watch professional sports why take one minute of just one game to consider how you can change things. You can’t stop what happened already.
It’s worse than a fumble or a missed pitch.
If you own a gun - why not take one minute to think about what could do to change the course of this blood-red rage for senseless violence?
If you are in business why not take one minute of one coffee break to think of a way to stop this baggage from following and permeating our society?
Girl children.
Slaughtered by men.
] For all the noise and dust kicked up about terrorists and the enemy ‘out there’ look at what happened here in the United States. Spawned from home grown hatred and misguided choices and lives that exclude hope.
A Baptist clergyman from Kansas had this to say about the slaughter of the innocents in Pennsylvania, "Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about those poor little girls — blah, blah, blah — they brought the wrath upon themselves.“ He said the Amish "don't serve God, they serve themselves."
Charles Carl Roberts IV killed these girls — Naomi Rose Ebersole, 7; Marian Fisher, 13; Mary Liz Miller, 8; and her sister Lena Miller, 7, Anna Mae Stoltzfus, 12.
Another 6 year old girl was taken off life support so that she could be taken home to die.
Dr. D. Holmes Morton who was working with the 6 year old said, "I just think at this point mostly these families want to be left alone in their grief and we ought to respect that."
Here is a man who worked with the Amish for years and still doesn’t see what is right in front of him.
The Amish don’t want to be left alone. They want you to join them in a life of peace and harmony.
The world is a harsh place as it is but the modern world is filled with things that do not need to be that cause needless sorrow and waste a lot of time.
The handguns that killed these children wasted a lot of time and have caused much sorrow.
An Amish neighbor comforted the Roberts family hours after the shooting and extended forgiveness to them.
What courage before Christ have you shown today that could even come close to matching the compassion and love that was shown here?
It went almost without notice.
Hidden in the howling mob-like news coverage.
The common human experience was nearly quenched in the riot of sound and images just as the lives of these girl children were snuffed out.
But the light shone out.
Do you see it?
What action will you take to make the world a better place? What will YOU do to make this country and God’s world a place where girl children are safe?
It’s up to you.
This happened to your neighbors. People you are bound to protect as an American and a person.
Full Version: Girl Children in America
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The handguns that killed these children wasted a lot of time and have caused much sorrow.
The gun did not kill these children. The man that pulled the trigger did. But perhaps you would feel better had they been knifed or bludgeoned to death??
At least they were spared lurid emails and chats!!!!
God blesses the Amish. They are world-famous for their absolute pacifism. The Amish have shown for almost five centuries that it works. The Quakers, Mennonites, Hutterites, and the Church of the Brethren have also shown it, but you can't notice them as easily. The Amish keep on loving, refuse to kill, refuse to hate, refuse to do anything they think the people of God should not do.
Don't say that pacifism fails. It succeeds. YOU are not going to live forever. Your country is not God. You have no excuse; the Amish have no need for an excuse.
Don't say that pacifism fails. It succeeds. YOU are not going to live forever. Your country is not God. You have no excuse; the Amish have no need for an excuse.
QUOTE (Nomad @ Oct 9 2006, 10:04 AM) 
The gun did not kill these children. The man that pulled the trigger did.
Only AMerryCan can come up with such a lame excuse.
Aren't you tired to repeat the same thing on and on ? Ad nauseam.
More guns mean more murders and accidents.
Less guns mean less murders and accidents.
In America, there's probably a gun per family (anyway much more than in any "civilized" country. That speaks volumes about your level of civilization). You also top the charts for gun related deaths among teenagers. Only countries at war are on a par with America.
Can't you see the relation ?
In France where it's almost impoosible to purchase a gun, murders are not so common. Again, can't you see the relation ?
QUOTE (adjan jb @ Oct 10 2006, 07:43 AM)
Only AMerryCan can come up with such a lame excuse.
Aren't you tired to repeat the same thing on and on ? Ad nauseam.
More guns mean more murders and accidents.
Less guns mean less murders and accidents.
In America, there's probably a gun per family (anyway much more than in any "civilized" country. That speaks volumes about your level of civilization). You also top the charts for gun related deaths among teenagers. Only countries at war are on a par with America.
Can't you see the relation ?
In France where it's almost impoosible to purchase a gun, murders are not so common. Again, can't you see the relation ?
Aren't you tired to repeat the same thing on and on ? Ad nauseam.
More guns mean more murders and accidents.
Less guns mean less murders and accidents.
In America, there's probably a gun per family (anyway much more than in any "civilized" country. That speaks volumes about your level of civilization). You also top the charts for gun related deaths among teenagers. Only countries at war are on a par with America.
Can't you see the relation ?
In France where it's almost impoosible to purchase a gun, murders are not so common. Again, can't you see the relation ?
USA-0.042802 per 1,000 people verses France 0.0173272 per 1,000 people
Yet, comparatively, in the USA, with its estimated 200 + million individual weapons, excluding all military and police weaponry, there are only 2.4702 per 1000 Homicides per every 1 homicide in France per 1000.
Yet, oddly, in terms of opportunity probability, given the Population of United States is 4.8947 times that of France and has some 200 million non-military and police weapons dispersed among its citizens.
You would expect its murder rate, as compared to that of France, to be far more, given the French have “NO access ” wink, wink” to weapons, has nearly 5 times less the population and of course has this historical propensity to surrender at the slightest turn of ill fortune?
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/information/population/
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_...per-capita#rest
QUOTE (adjan jb @ Oct 9 2006, 05:43 PM)
Only AMerryCan can come up with such a lame excuse.
Aren't you tired to repeat the same thing on and on ? Ad nauseam.
More guns mean more murders and accidents.
Less guns mean less murders and accidents.
In America, there's probably a gun per family (anyway much more than in any "civilized" country. That speaks volumes about your level of civilization). You also top the charts for gun related deaths among teenagers. Only countries at war are on a par with America.
Can't you see the relation ?
In France where it's almost impoosible to purchase a gun, murders are not so common. Again, can't you see the relation ?
Aren't you tired to repeat the same thing on and on ? Ad nauseam.
More guns mean more murders and accidents.
Less guns mean less murders and accidents.
In America, there's probably a gun per family (anyway much more than in any "civilized" country. That speaks volumes about your level of civilization). You also top the charts for gun related deaths among teenagers. Only countries at war are on a par with America.
Can't you see the relation ?
In France where it's almost impoosible to purchase a gun, murders are not so common. Again, can't you see the relation ?
Wrong again AJ. Your simple statistics are just that...simple. You will find that the greatest rate of gun crimes occur in the areas that have the strictest gun control laws. Conversely you will find the lowest rate of gun crimes in areas with little or no restrictions on gun ownership.
Teenage gun deaths? That stat could be right. But you will find here this is the result of black gang bangers killing for drugs and respect. No biggie here. They are just doing us a favor by killing each other off. Saves the taxpayer from having to incarcerate them for the rest of their lives.
We Americans like our guns. NO ONE will take them away from us. This is why we will never be invaded. As the Japs said in WWII...... "We can not invade America. There is a rifle behind every blade of grass".
If I were you AJ I'd buy a 12ga pump and load up on 00 buck. Your muslims will rise again and may not be content with burning cars next time..............................................................
QUOTE (ustrader @ Oct 10 2006, 09:45 AM)
Yet, comparatively, in the USA, with its estimated 200 + million individual weapons, excluding all military and police weaponry, there are only 2.4702 per 1000 Homicides per every 1 homicide in France per 1000.
Let's take a look at your stats first:
- 2.47 homicides per 1000 in the USA
- 1 homicide per 1000 in France
That's almost 150 % more homicides in your country than in mine !
Then to minimize these terrible numbers, you came up with a concept that's unknown to the mathematicians I've talked to : "opportunity probability". Could you elaborate ?
Some more stats :
- In 2002, 10 801 homicides in the States (total population : 275 millions)
- In 2002, 1 260 homicides in the European Union (total population : 376 millions)
= 12 times more.
And I haven't mention accidents and suicides.
QUOTE (Nomad @ Oct 10 2006, 10:52 AM)
you will find the lowest rate of gun crimes in areas with little or no restrictions on gun ownership.
this is the result of black gang bangers killing for drugs and respect. No biggie here. They are just doing us a favor by killing each other off. Saves the taxpayer from having to incarcerate them for the rest of their lives.
We Americans like our guns. NO ONE will take them away from us. This is why we will never be invaded. As the Japs said in WWII...... "We can not invade America. There is a rifle behind every blade of grass".
this is the result of black gang bangers killing for drugs and respect. No biggie here. They are just doing us a favor by killing each other off. Saves the taxpayer from having to incarcerate them for the rest of their lives.
We Americans like our guns. NO ONE will take them away from us. This is why we will never be invaded. As the Japs said in WWII...... "We can not invade America. There is a rifle behind every blade of grass".
Take a look at the stats about USA and EU : you are wrong.
Your second sentence is just plain racist. Moreover it just shows that you don't care about children and innocent people caught in the middle of a shoot out.
It seems that now anyone can invade you : They just have to board a commercial flight.
And also, I prefer a country where there's some Zig Zag or Riz La + behind every blade of grass.
QUOTE (adjan)
And also, I prefer a country where there's some Zig Zag or Riz La + behind every blade of grass.
QUOTE (adjan jb @ Oct 10 2006, 02:03 PM)
Let's take a look at your stats first:
- 2.47 homicides per 1000 in the USA
- 1 homicide per 1000 in France
That's almost 150 % more homicides in your country than in mine !
Then to minimize these terrible numbers, you came up with a concept that's unknown to the mathematicians I've talked to : "opportunity probability". Could you elaborate ?
Some more stats :
- In 2002, 10 801 homicides in the States (total population : 275 millions)
- In 2002, 1 260 homicides in the European Union (total population : 376 millions)
= 12 times more.
And I haven't mention accidents and suicides.
Yes, I see, another THC fog of selective reasoning as usual. Though, as usual, you give no source of these fog lamented statistics that are a tad askew in the THC fog that surrounds you.
So the learned mathematicians you smoke with comes up with the rate of Murders per 1000 as only 150% more in the USA than France, who have no guns, wink, wink.
Obviously, the mathematicians you are acquainted with have a sever deficiency in calculation capability. The rate is 247% higher in the USA than France per 1000 people there, Mr. THC. (2.47 divided by 1) wink, wink.
Yet, the USA with its 200 million individually owned weapons is 489.47% larger than France. (297,991,311 divided by 60,887,490).
You say your confused about the term {I}Opportunity probability[/I] whereby simply put it is with a population of 489.47X there exists, in probabilty, a higher likeihood of some event occurring than that within a 1X size population. Perhaps the fog has not risen from that 10 cent bag eh pepsi!!
Similarly, if France has a population of 60,887,490 and a Murder rate per 1000 of ,0173272 ,then in France without guns, mind you, 60,887,490 divided by 1000= 60887.49 X ,0173272 =1,055 murders alone. Now in THC fog of math you say in all of Europe there was only 1261 murders. If France has 1055 of those that leaves the rest of Europe only 205.99 murders. Man is that a Fog of THC delusion.
Monsieur and I have debated this issue and mutually agreed a long time ago that there is no question the USA is a more violent place than Europe as the facts support.
Yet your point in this thread in argument was far different wasn’t it, my Franco eccentric pot head. I am sure once the 10 cent bag is gone and THC fog lifts you will recognize you were arguing about GUNS, France and the USA NOT GUNS, Europe and the USA. Eh pepsi!!
By the way, the EU 25 population is 456.8 million as of 1 January 2004.
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:rLn5Sx...us&ct=clnk&cd=3
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur-crime-murders
I just could not resist.
That comments and its implied substances as to you as a ceditable person actually comes as no real surprise in this perspective of “the THC fog” view of things.
So, in fact, what you are really saying here, assuming you have any memory of it, is, you prefer the USA above all other countries, given the USA is by far the highest users of this genre of rolling “A better cigarette (wink, wink)”.
I ponder by this, whose view of the world is obviously clouded by this THC fog, eh, pepsi??...
Take a look at the stats about USA and EU : you are wrong.
Your second sentence is just plain racist. Moreover it just shows that you don't care about children and innocent people caught in the middle of a shoot out.
It seems that now anyone can invade you : They just have to board a commercial flight.
And also, I prefer a country where there's some Zig Zag or Riz La + behind every blade of grass.
- 2.47 homicides per 1000 in the USA
- 1 homicide per 1000 in France
That's almost 150 % more homicides in your country than in mine !
Then to minimize these terrible numbers, you came up with a concept that's unknown to the mathematicians I've talked to : "opportunity probability". Could you elaborate ?
Some more stats :
- In 2002, 10 801 homicides in the States (total population : 275 millions)
- In 2002, 1 260 homicides in the European Union (total population : 376 millions)
= 12 times more.
And I haven't mention accidents and suicides.
Yes, I see, another THC fog of selective reasoning as usual. Though, as usual, you give no source of these fog lamented statistics that are a tad askew in the THC fog that surrounds you.
So the learned mathematicians you smoke with comes up with the rate of Murders per 1000 as only 150% more in the USA than France, who have no guns, wink, wink.
Obviously, the mathematicians you are acquainted with have a sever deficiency in calculation capability. The rate is 247% higher in the USA than France per 1000 people there, Mr. THC. (2.47 divided by 1) wink, wink.
Yet, the USA with its 200 million individually owned weapons is 489.47% larger than France. (297,991,311 divided by 60,887,490).
You say your confused about the term {I}Opportunity probability[/I] whereby simply put it is with a population of 489.47X there exists, in probabilty, a higher likeihood of some event occurring than that within a 1X size population. Perhaps the fog has not risen from that 10 cent bag eh pepsi!!
Similarly, if France has a population of 60,887,490 and a Murder rate per 1000 of ,0173272 ,then in France without guns, mind you, 60,887,490 divided by 1000= 60887.49 X ,0173272 =1,055 murders alone. Now in THC fog of math you say in all of Europe there was only 1261 murders. If France has 1055 of those that leaves the rest of Europe only 205.99 murders. Man is that a Fog of THC delusion.
Monsieur and I have debated this issue and mutually agreed a long time ago that there is no question the USA is a more violent place than Europe as the facts support.
Yet your point in this thread in argument was far different wasn’t it, my Franco eccentric pot head. I am sure once the 10 cent bag is gone and THC fog lifts you will recognize you were arguing about GUNS, France and the USA NOT GUNS, Europe and the USA. Eh pepsi!!
By the way, the EU 25 population is 456.8 million as of 1 January 2004.
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:rLn5Sx...us&ct=clnk&cd=3
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur-crime-murders
QUOTE
And also, I prefer a country where there's some Zig Zag or Riz La + behind every blade of grass..
I just could not resist.
That comments and its implied substances as to you as a ceditable person actually comes as no real surprise in this perspective of “the THC fog” view of things.
So, in fact, what you are really saying here, assuming you have any memory of it, is, you prefer the USA above all other countries, given the USA is by far the highest users of this genre of rolling “A better cigarette (wink, wink)”.
I ponder by this, whose view of the world is obviously clouded by this THC fog, eh, pepsi??...
Take a look at the stats about USA and EU : you are wrong.
Your second sentence is just plain racist. Moreover it just shows that you don't care about children and innocent people caught in the middle of a shoot out.
It seems that now anyone can invade you : They just have to board a commercial flight.
And also, I prefer a country where there's some Zig Zag or Riz La + behind every blade of grass.
Quote :
Obviously, the mathematicians you are acquainted with have a sever deficiency in calculation capability. The rate is 247% higher in the USA than France per 1000 people there, Mr. THC. (2.47 divided by 1).
Ustrader
1 homicide per 1 000 in France.
2.5 homicides per 1 000 in the US.
The rate is 150 % higher in the USA. (1 + 1.5 [150 %] = 2.5)
So much for the severe defiency.
Quote:
So, in fact, what you are really saying here, assuming you have any memory of it, is, you prefer the USA above all other countries, given the USA is by far the highest users of this genre of rolling “A better cigarette”.
Ustrader
Any source to back these stats : "USA is by far the biggest users" ?
Remember that you told me to always provide reliable sources ?
Actually I prefer Thailand but I admit that I love bob Dylan, the Grateful Dead, TC Boyle and John Irving among others.
Obviously, the mathematicians you are acquainted with have a sever deficiency in calculation capability. The rate is 247% higher in the USA than France per 1000 people there, Mr. THC. (2.47 divided by 1).
Ustrader
1 homicide per 1 000 in France.
2.5 homicides per 1 000 in the US.
The rate is 150 % higher in the USA. (1 + 1.5 [150 %] = 2.5)
So much for the severe defiency.
Quote:
So, in fact, what you are really saying here, assuming you have any memory of it, is, you prefer the USA above all other countries, given the USA is by far the highest users of this genre of rolling “A better cigarette”.
Ustrader
Any source to back these stats : "USA is by far the biggest users" ?
Remember that you told me to always provide reliable sources ?
Actually I prefer Thailand but I admit that I love bob Dylan, the Grateful Dead, TC Boyle and John Irving among others.
QUOTE
Take a look at the stats about USA and EU : you are wrong.
Really? As I recall everyone in Switzerland is required to own a gun and they have almost no gun crimes.
Your second sentence is just plain racist. Moreover it just shows that you don't care about children and innocent people caught in the middle of a shoot out.
Nothing racist about it. I would feel the same way if it were a bunch of white gang bangers.
It seems that now anyone can invade you : They just have to board a commercial flight.
Well I can understand how a Frenchman does not know the difference between an invasion and an attack.
Let me explain it for you. Pearl Harbor and 911 were attacks. No land was captured by the enemy. An invasion is what occured to France in WWII when the Germans captured and occupied your country. And, I might add, they did so as a hot knife goes through butter. Perhaps if every Frenchman had possessed a firearm and a spine this invasion may not have occured.
Really? As I recall everyone in Switzerland is required to own a gun and they have almost no gun crimes.
Your second sentence is just plain racist. Moreover it just shows that you don't care about children and innocent people caught in the middle of a shoot out.
Nothing racist about it. I would feel the same way if it were a bunch of white gang bangers.
It seems that now anyone can invade you : They just have to board a commercial flight.
Well I can understand how a Frenchman does not know the difference between an invasion and an attack.
Let me explain it for you. Pearl Harbor and 911 were attacks. No land was captured by the enemy. An invasion is what occured to France in WWII when the Germans captured and occupied your country. And, I might add, they did so as a hot knife goes through butter. Perhaps if every Frenchman had possessed a firearm and a spine this invasion may not have occured.
Quote:Take a look at the stats about USA and EU : you are wrong. [Adjan Jb]
Quote:Really? As I recall everyone in Switzerland is required to own a gun and they have almost no gun crimes. [Nomad].
As I recall Switzerland is not in the EU.
So after all it's not a cliche that Americans don't know much about geography.
Quote: It seems that now anyone can invade you : They just have to board a commercial flight.[Adjan Jb]
Quote: Well I can understand how a Frenchman does not know the difference between an invasion and an attack. [Nomad]
Well I can't understand how an American does not know the difference between a joke and a serious statement.
Now go out and buy an atlas.
Quote:Really? As I recall everyone in Switzerland is required to own a gun and they have almost no gun crimes. [Nomad].
As I recall Switzerland is not in the EU.
So after all it's not a cliche that Americans don't know much about geography.
Quote: It seems that now anyone can invade you : They just have to board a commercial flight.[Adjan Jb]
Quote: Well I can understand how a Frenchman does not know the difference between an invasion and an attack. [Nomad]
Well I can't understand how an American does not know the difference between a joke and a serious statement.
Now go out and buy an atlas.
QUOTE
As I recall Switzerland is not in the EU.
That is not the point and you know it. Why is it you libs always attempt to obfuscate that subject being discussed?? It is because you are always defeated with logic and in a vain attempt to assuage your fragile little egos you resort to this tactic.
Now how bout replying to my point about Switzerland???
QUOTE (adjan jb @ Oct 11 2006, 09:09 AM)
Quote :
Obviously, the mathematicians you are acquainted with have a sever deficiency in calculation capability. The rate is 247% higher in the USA than France per 1000 people there, Mr. THC. (2.47 divided by 1).
Ustrader
1 homicide per 1 000 in France.
2.5 homicides per 1 000 in the US.
The rate is 150 % higher in the USA. (1 + 1.5 [150 %] = 2.5)
So much for the severe defiency.
Again, if x=100% and x*y=2.47, then (x(100%) * Y (2.47))=247%
what pray tell is 150% of 1 ( 1*1.50=1.50)
What pray tell is 247% of 1 ( 1*2.47=2.47)
Enough said!! Fuzzy Pepsi math indeed....
Quote:
So, in fact, what you are really saying here, assuming you have any memory of it, is, you prefer the USA above all other countries, given the USA is by far the highest users of this genre of rolling “A better cigarette”.
Ustrader
Any source to back these stats : "USA is by far the biggest users" ?
Remember that you told me to always provide reliable sources ?
That is what I defame the most about you ranting loons on the left side of nowhere, is that disabling attention span mimicking that of the live span of a coral reef pygmy goby**. Not to mention an even lesser capability of either buffoon-ism and or overwhelming laziness, so pungent as to disable your abilty or willingness to apply efforts of the slightest to deduce and research facts beyond the plagiarized rants of yet another ill informed buffoon......
Diverse global markets
Cannabis is the dominant illicit drug in every region of the world and its use is growing almost everywhere. While not every cannabis market is transnational, in the sense that production occurs in a different country from consumption, the problem is truly international.
In economic terms, North America is the largest cannabis-consuming region.
http://www.unodc.org/newsletter/en/perspec...01/page011.html
P.S. Would you care to guess where in the US the hightest rates of usage are?
THINK BLUE STATES BIG TIME
The great state of both Dumb (K) & Dumber (K), MAD MASS, The Madrasa State of Botoxville, CALIYFORNCATE and the ROCKY MOUNTAIN HIGH, BLAME AMERICA PROFESSOR HAVEN, state of COLOR-ODDS!!
A better example is Texas, where the only and most liberal area in the State, Austin San Antonio AO, have the by far the highest rates of usege.
http://www.oas.samhsa.gov/2k5/subStateMJ/subStateMJ.htm
** http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/2006/1735453.htm
Actually I prefer Thailand but I admit that I love bob Dylan, the Grateful Dead, TC Boyle and John Irving among others.
Let me Guess, perhaps, a Patty B i t c h or slutty Pukeeet boy eh, whoren and boren...No more visa runs for you, eh, pony up or get out, Eh, comrade...
Unless that is you are the village's token Far'ang hubby, ไฮโซบัตโลว์คลาส, haiM sohM batL loh[w]M khlaatF, EH?
Now that was Obtuse of me wasn't it. I am sorry....
Obviously, the mathematicians you are acquainted with have a sever deficiency in calculation capability. The rate is 247% higher in the USA than France per 1000 people there, Mr. THC. (2.47 divided by 1).
Ustrader
1 homicide per 1 000 in France.
2.5 homicides per 1 000 in the US.
The rate is 150 % higher in the USA. (1 + 1.5 [150 %] = 2.5)
So much for the severe defiency.
Again, if x=100% and x*y=2.47, then (x(100%) * Y (2.47))=247%
what pray tell is 150% of 1 ( 1*1.50=1.50)
What pray tell is 247% of 1 ( 1*2.47=2.47)
Enough said!! Fuzzy Pepsi math indeed....
Quote:
So, in fact, what you are really saying here, assuming you have any memory of it, is, you prefer the USA above all other countries, given the USA is by far the highest users of this genre of rolling “A better cigarette”.
Ustrader
Any source to back these stats : "USA is by far the biggest users" ?
Remember that you told me to always provide reliable sources ?
That is what I defame the most about you ranting loons on the left side of nowhere, is that disabling attention span mimicking that of the live span of a coral reef pygmy goby**. Not to mention an even lesser capability of either buffoon-ism and or overwhelming laziness, so pungent as to disable your abilty or willingness to apply efforts of the slightest to deduce and research facts beyond the plagiarized rants of yet another ill informed buffoon......
Diverse global markets
Cannabis is the dominant illicit drug in every region of the world and its use is growing almost everywhere. While not every cannabis market is transnational, in the sense that production occurs in a different country from consumption, the problem is truly international.
In economic terms, North America is the largest cannabis-consuming region.
http://www.unodc.org/newsletter/en/perspec...01/page011.html
P.S. Would you care to guess where in the US the hightest rates of usage are?
THINK BLUE STATES BIG TIME
The great state of both Dumb (K) & Dumber (K), MAD MASS, The Madrasa State of Botoxville, CALIYFORNCATE and the ROCKY MOUNTAIN HIGH, BLAME AMERICA PROFESSOR HAVEN, state of COLOR-ODDS!!
A better example is Texas, where the only and most liberal area in the State, Austin San Antonio AO, have the by far the highest rates of usege.
http://www.oas.samhsa.gov/2k5/subStateMJ/subStateMJ.htm
** http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/2006/1735453.htm
Actually I prefer Thailand but I admit that I love bob Dylan, the Grateful Dead, TC Boyle and John Irving among others.
Let me Guess, perhaps, a Patty B i t c h or slutty Pukeeet boy eh, whoren and boren...No more visa runs for you, eh, pony up or get out, Eh, comrade...
Unless that is you are the village's token Far'ang hubby, ไฮโซบัตโลว์คลาส, haiM sohM batL loh[w]M khlaatF, EH?
Now that was Obtuse of me wasn't it. I am sorry....
Again, if x=100% and x*y=2.47, then (x(100%) * Y (2.47))=247%
Ustrader.
That the srangest equation I've ever seen. First 2.47 is the result of x*y but suddenly, I don't know why, it becomes the value of y. It can't be both, you have to make up your mind.
More seriously:
x = 100 % (I agree). In this case x is 1 (1 homicide per 1 000 in France)
and x + y = 2.47 (I still agree)
Then
1 + y = 2.47
y = 2.47 - 1
y = 1.47
X 100 (to get a percentage) = 147 %
Therefore the rate is 147 % higher in the States.
This time, I provide a link.
http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/11-533-XIE/2005001/using/basicsta.htm
To calculate the percentage difference between two numbers, the same basic calculations are used.
Example: To find the percentage change from 250 to 280, the
difference between numbers is calculated:
280 – 250 = 30
and then expressed as a percentage of the first, or base, number:
(30 x 100) ÷ 250 = 12%
To compare a number of different things, they need to be expressed on the same base:
Example: if the price of sausage increased from $2.99 per kilogram to $3.99 and the same quantity of wieners from $1.99 to $2.99, the two increases could be expressed as percentages.
Sausages: $3.99 - $2.99 = $1.00
$1.00 as a % of $2.99 is ($1.00 x 100) ÷ $2.99 = 33%
Wieners: $2.99 – $1.99 = $1.00
$1.00 as a % of $1.99 is ($1.00 x 100) ÷ $1.99 = 50%
It is now easy to see that the price increase of wieners was much higher than that of sausages.
You put your foot in your mouth and then you blame me.
I'll reply to your point about Switzerland when you can pinpoint Switzerland on a map. So don't waste time, go out and buy an atlas. I'm waiting here.
Ustrader.
That the srangest equation I've ever seen. First 2.47 is the result of x*y but suddenly, I don't know why, it becomes the value of y. It can't be both, you have to make up your mind.
More seriously:
x = 100 % (I agree). In this case x is 1 (1 homicide per 1 000 in France)
and x + y = 2.47 (I still agree)
Then
1 + y = 2.47
y = 2.47 - 1
y = 1.47
X 100 (to get a percentage) = 147 %
Therefore the rate is 147 % higher in the States.
This time, I provide a link.
http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/11-533-XIE/2005001/using/basicsta.htm
To calculate the percentage difference between two numbers, the same basic calculations are used.
Example: To find the percentage change from 250 to 280, the
difference between numbers is calculated:
280 – 250 = 30
and then expressed as a percentage of the first, or base, number:
(30 x 100) ÷ 250 = 12%
To compare a number of different things, they need to be expressed on the same base:
Example: if the price of sausage increased from $2.99 per kilogram to $3.99 and the same quantity of wieners from $1.99 to $2.99, the two increases could be expressed as percentages.
Sausages: $3.99 - $2.99 = $1.00
$1.00 as a % of $2.99 is ($1.00 x 100) ÷ $2.99 = 33%
Wieners: $2.99 – $1.99 = $1.00
$1.00 as a % of $1.99 is ($1.00 x 100) ÷ $1.99 = 50%
It is now easy to see that the price increase of wieners was much higher than that of sausages.
QUOTE (Nomad @ Oct 12 2006, 10:30 AM)
That is not the point and you know it. Why is it you libs always attempt to obfuscate that subject being discussed?? It is because you are always defeated with logic and in a vain attempt to assuage your fragile little egos you resort to this tactic.
Now how bout replying to my point about Switzerland???
Now how bout replying to my point about Switzerland???
You put your foot in your mouth and then you blame me.
I'll reply to your point about Switzerland when you can pinpoint Switzerland on a map. So don't waste time, go out and buy an atlas. I'm waiting here.
QUOTE
More guns mean more murders and accidents.
Less guns mean less murders and accidents.
Less guns mean less murders and accidents.
There is no evidence to support this claim.
QUOTE (adjan jb @ Oct 12 2006, 03:16 PM)
Again, if x=100% and x*y=2.47, then (x(100%) * Y (2.47))=247%
Ustrader.
That the srangest equation I've ever seen. First 2.47 is the result of x*y but suddenly, I don't know why, it becomes the value of y. It can't be both, you have to make up your mind.
I agree, you win...
More seriously:
x = 100 % (I agree). In this case x is 1 (1 homicide per 1 000 in France)
and x + y = 2.47 (I still agree)
Then
1 + y = 2.47
y = 2.47 - 1
y = 1.47
X 100 (to get a percentage) = 147 %
Therefore the rate is 147 % higher in the States.
This time, I provide a link.
http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/11-533-XIE/2005001/using/basicsta.htm
To calculate the percentage difference between two numbers, the same basic calculations are used.
Example: To find the percentage change from 250 to 280, the
difference between numbers is calculated:
280 – 250 = 30
and then expressed as a percentage of the first, or base, number:
(30 x 100) ÷ 250 = 12%
To compare a number of different things, they need to be expressed on the same base:
Example: if the price of sausage increased from $2.99 per kilogram to $3.99 and the same quantity of wieners from $1.99 to $2.99, the two increases could be expressed as percentages.
Sausages: $3.99 - $2.99 = $1.00
$1.00 as a % of $2.99 is ($1.00 x 100) ÷ $2.99 = 33%
Wieners: $2.99 – $1.99 = $1.00
$1.00 as a % of $1.99 is ($1.00 x 100) ÷ $1.99 = 50%
It is now easy to see that the price increase of wieners was much higher than that of sausages.
You put your foot in your mouth and then you blame me.
I'll reply to your point about Switzerland when you can pinpoint Switzerland on a map. So don't waste time, go out and buy an atlas. I'm waiting here.
Ustrader.
That the srangest equation I've ever seen. First 2.47 is the result of x*y but suddenly, I don't know why, it becomes the value of y. It can't be both, you have to make up your mind.
I agree, you win... More seriously:
x = 100 % (I agree). In this case x is 1 (1 homicide per 1 000 in France)
and x + y = 2.47 (I still agree)
Then
1 + y = 2.47
y = 2.47 - 1
y = 1.47
X 100 (to get a percentage) = 147 %
Therefore the rate is 147 % higher in the States.
This time, I provide a link.
http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/11-533-XIE/2005001/using/basicsta.htm
To calculate the percentage difference between two numbers, the same basic calculations are used.
Example: To find the percentage change from 250 to 280, the
difference between numbers is calculated:
280 – 250 = 30
and then expressed as a percentage of the first, or base, number:
(30 x 100) ÷ 250 = 12%
To compare a number of different things, they need to be expressed on the same base:
Example: if the price of sausage increased from $2.99 per kilogram to $3.99 and the same quantity of wieners from $1.99 to $2.99, the two increases could be expressed as percentages.
Sausages: $3.99 - $2.99 = $1.00
$1.00 as a % of $2.99 is ($1.00 x 100) ÷ $2.99 = 33%
Wieners: $2.99 – $1.99 = $1.00
$1.00 as a % of $1.99 is ($1.00 x 100) ÷ $1.99 = 50%
It is now easy to see that the price increase of wieners was much higher than that of sausages.
You put your foot in your mouth and then you blame me.
I'll reply to your point about Switzerland when you can pinpoint Switzerland on a map. So don't waste time, go out and buy an atlas. I'm waiting here.
QUOTE (adjan jb @ Oct 12 2006, 01:16 AM)
You put your foot in your mouth and then you blame me.
I'll reply to your point about Switzerland when you can pinpoint Switzerland on a map. So don't waste time, go out and buy an atlas. I'm waiting here.
I'll reply to your point about Switzerland when you can pinpoint Switzerland on a map. So don't waste time, go out and buy an atlas. I'm waiting here.
Can't answer can you AJ. Nice little
That is not the point and you know it. Why is it you libs always attempt to obfuscate that subject being discussed?? It is because you are always defeated with logic and in a vain attempt to assuage your fragile little egos you resort to this tactic.
Now how bout replying to my point about Switzerland???
You loose again. Stick to the hit and run one line attacks. Those too make you look stupid. But your attempt to debate a subject makes you look like a blithering idiot. Best settle for stupid..........
QUOTE (Nomad)
Take a look at the stats about USA and EU : you are wrong.
Really? As I recall everyone in Switzerland is required to own a gun and they have almost no gun crimes.
Really? As I recall everyone in Switzerland is required to own a gun and they have almost no gun crimes.
Adjan answered you question, Switzerland is not a member of the EU, therefore the figures discussed DO NOT include Switzerland.
It is you that looks like "a blithering idiot".
QUOTE (Monsieur Le Tonk @ Oct 13 2006, 11:20 AM)
Adjan answered you question, Switzerland is not a member of the EU, therefore the figures discussed DO NOT include Switzerland.
It is you that looks like "a blithering idiot".
It is you that looks like "a blithering idiot".
Perhaps, there is a propensity among some to quick draw to absolute conclusions as to what is a blithering idiot maybe. Perhaps one is not a blithering idiot per se, if all they say is not entirely idiotic but is made up some facts. As in these comments, though sterilized as a part of this
EU (Empire of Unionists), the facts about the Swiss are basically correct. Thusly is one really a blithering idiot for having some facts wrong. I hear from some here, all the time, nay, they are not....or is this just not for the emblishers of superiority.2. Special Regulations for Military Firearms, Sporting and Hunting Guns
Due to the long tradition and the special organization of the Swiss armed forces as a militia army, special rules are applicable for army weapons. Between their regular annual service of two or three weeks per year, Swiss soldiers and officers keep their personal weapons at home. After they have left the army, they may keep those arms in order to continue practicing at rifle or pistol ranges managed by local communities. Special rules also govern hunting or sporting rifles.
3. Firearms and Crime
The use of firearms in crimes in Switzerland is relatively rare. In 1998, official police statistics reported 66 cases in which guns were used in attempted or successful homicides, 64 cases in which they were used to inflict bodily harm and another 475 cases in which firearms were used in armed robberies.
http://www.eda.admin.ch/washington_emb/e/h...act/gunown.html
QUOTE (Monsieur Le Tonk @ Oct 12 2006, 09:20 PM)
Adjan answered you question, Switzerland is not a member of the EU, therefore the figures discussed DO NOT include Switzerland.
It is you that looks like "a blithering idiot".
It is you that looks like "a blithering idiot".
Believe it or not some people do not care about the countries in the EU. I for one do not. Switzerland is in Europe. The fact they are not a member of the EU has no relevence to the discussion of gun possession and it's relation to gun violence. My point was everyone in Switzerland is required to own a gun. Yet their gun violence is practically non existant.
QUOTE (adjan jb @ Oct 9 2006, 05:43 PM)
More guns mean more murders and accidents.
Less guns mean less murders and accidents.
Less guns mean less murders and accidents.
As usual a liberal backed into a corner with logic attempts to shift the focus. And no surprise a fellow Frenchie comes to the weasels defence.................................. Too funny..............................
QUOTE (Trader)
Perhaps, there is a propensity among some to quick draw to absolute conclusions as to what is a blithering idiot maybe. Perhaps one is not a blithering idiot per se, if all they say is not entirely idiotic but is made up some facts. As in these comments, though sterilized as a part of this huh.gif EU (Empire of Unionists), the facts about the Swiss are basically correct. Thusly is one really a blithering idiot for having some facts wrong. I hear from some here, all the time, nay, they are not....or is this just not for the emblishers of superiority.
QUOTE (Nomad)
Believe it or not some people do not care about the countries in the EU. I for one do not. Switzerland is in Europe. The fact they are not a member of the EU has no relevence to the discussion of gun possession and it's relation to gun violence. My point was everyone in Switzerland is required to own a gun. Yet their gun violence is practically non existant.
I'm not disputing that Switzerland is odd, it always has been.
Nomad questioned the homicide figures for the US v EU quoted by Adjan, figures that do not include Switzerland as its not a part of the European Union.
The propensity for the Swiss to be armed but not dangerous is a whole other topic
QUOTE (Monsieur Le Tonk @ Oct 13 2006, 12:49 PM)
I'm not disputing that Switzerland is odd, it always has been.
Nomad questioned the homicide figures for the US v EU quoted by Adjan, figures that do not include Switzerland as its not a part of the European Union.
The propensity for the Swiss to be armed but not dangerous is a whole other topic
Nomad questioned the homicide figures for the US v EU quoted by Adjan, figures that do not include Switzerland as its not a part of the European Union.
The propensity for the Swiss to be armed but not dangerous is a whole other topic
Say, Kind of like one's selective blithering idoiticy of choicing to pick an eyebrow with twisers and or a with a butcher's knife, Eh?
QUOTE (Nomad @ Oct 13 2006, 12:06 PM)
Believe it or not some people do not care about the countries in the EU. I for one do not. Switzerland is in Europe. The fact they are not a member of the EU has no relevence to the discussion
So actually you're saying that you don't care about facts.
Your friend Ustrader has a different point of view : he always emphasises that facts are highly relevent to any discussion.
That said, let's talk about Switzerland.
You said that in Switzerland everyone is required to own a gun and they have almost no gun crimes.
Actually, only a part of the population is required to do so and they don't own the gun. Those belong to the state because the people you are refering to are trained soldiers. They are...the Swiss Army. Yes, that's the way it works in this weird country.
As we are not discussing state violence in this thread, I guess Switzerland has no relevence to the dicussion.
QUOTE : You loose again. Nomad.
QUOTE: I agree, you win... Ustrader.
Nomad, listen to your master's voice. He knows better.
Oh, one more thing:
QUOTE : stupid.... a blithering idiot..... stupid.......... [Nomad]
Next time you reply to one of my posts, can you spare me the verbal abuse, please ? It's for your own sake : verbal abuse only tarnish abusing people not their victims.
QUOTE : stupid.... a blithering idiot..... stupid.......... [Nomad]
Next time you reply to one of my posts, can you spare me the verbal abuse, please ? It's for your own sake : verbal abuse only tarnish abusing people not their victims.
QUOTE (adjan jb @ Oct 13 2006, 01:51 PM)
So actually you're saying that you don't care about facts.
Your friend Ustrader has a different point of view : he always emphasises that facts are highly relevent to any discussion.
That said, let's talk about Switzerland.
You said that in Switzerland everyone is required to own a gun and they have almost no gun crimes.
Actually, only a part of the population is required to do so and they don't own the gun. Those belong to the state because the people you are refering to are trained soldiers. They are...the Swiss Army. Yes, that's the way it works in this weird country.
As we are not discussing state violence in this thread, I guess Switzerland has no relevence to the dicussion.
QUOTE : You loose again. Nomad.
QUOTE: I agree, you win... Ustrader.
Eh, Nay, only a faux victory of desperation so seldom attributed to any Frenchmen, pretender or not. Yet in this debunking of a so desperately sought victory, the prize was but the bait on the end of this hook. Eh!!
In mere pity you have been played like a Violin
there my debunking faux French-pent-up...
Through vacillation many people obtain a faux success out of what is destined to be a certain failure. Eh Pepsi?
My apologizes for my insincerity and deciet in baiting the hook you bit on.
But one has to beat the boredom out when the same arguments, saying the same things, are vented over and over, with only the nick of the ventor being different occassionally...
The devil Bush made me do it...555
Nomad, listen to your master's voice. He knows better.
Your friend Ustrader has a different point of view : he always emphasises that facts are highly relevent to any discussion.
That said, let's talk about Switzerland.
You said that in Switzerland everyone is required to own a gun and they have almost no gun crimes.
Actually, only a part of the population is required to do so and they don't own the gun. Those belong to the state because the people you are refering to are trained soldiers. They are...the Swiss Army. Yes, that's the way it works in this weird country.
As we are not discussing state violence in this thread, I guess Switzerland has no relevence to the dicussion.
QUOTE : You loose again. Nomad.
QUOTE: I agree, you win... Ustrader.
Eh, Nay, only a faux victory of desperation so seldom attributed to any Frenchmen, pretender or not. Yet in this debunking of a so desperately sought victory, the prize was but the bait on the end of this hook. Eh!!In mere pity you have been played like a Violin
there my debunking faux French-pent-up...Through vacillation many people obtain a faux success out of what is destined to be a certain failure. Eh Pepsi?
My apologizes for my insincerity and deciet in baiting the hook you bit on.
But one has to beat the boredom out when the same arguments, saying the same things, are vented over and over, with only the nick of the ventor being different occassionally...
The devil Bush made me do it...555 Nomad, listen to your master's voice. He knows better.
Well, we Texans will keep our guns, thank you very much. That way we don't wind up starting world wars that kill tens of millions by our governments squabling with one another.
I think Europeans started world wars out of shear boredom and suffocating indentures to their governments.
Sooooo, we kill off our would-be Napoleans and Hitlers a few at a time after they kill only a few, or even perhaps only one each.
So our society breathes off violence at a sad but steady rate, whereas you Europeans seem to hibernate your violence and then have another blood-bath every so often.
Bean
I think Europeans started world wars out of shear boredom and suffocating indentures to their governments.
Sooooo, we kill off our would-be Napoleans and Hitlers a few at a time after they kill only a few, or even perhaps only one each.
So our society breathes off violence at a sad but steady rate, whereas you Europeans seem to hibernate your violence and then have another blood-bath every so often.
Bean
QUOTE
God blesses the Amish. They are world-famous for their absolute pacifism. The Amish have shown for almost five centuries that it works.
They just watched their daughters killed under their noses. That seems to illustrate the exact opposite.
Regardless, what a horrible and vicious crime.
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