Hillary Rodham is running.
Hillary Rodham is winning.
Hillary Rodham will get the nomination with no sweat.
Hillary Rodham will be elected the FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

Great news!
There is hope to stem the tide of death politics.

Regarding Hussein Obama. He is a FLASH IN THE PAN. He has ALREADY PEAKED. He might run but he will not be nominated and will NOT be Hillary Rodham's VP. Rodham's VP will be Governor Richardson.

You heard it here first.

Golly, what a surprise!! Who woulda thunk it?

I can't believe it, Thaiquila, even if I truly wanted to believe it. She'll get politically raped in the primaries. If she got nominated, she'd be so libelled and simply lied about in the general election, you'd have thought she was the illegitimate granddaughter of Eleanor Roosevelt.

Enough Republicans hate Hilary so much they'd sell their souls to keep her from being elected president.

Thaiquila, the first reason is not that she's a woman. It's because she's so eminently qualified. Voters don't want qualified politicians; they prefer your local dentist or maybe John D. Rockefeller VI, straight out of high school.

Nope.
The women will come out of the woodwork to vote for her.
By the tens of millions.
NEW VOTERS!
Remember, most Americans do not vote.
The key to future elections is getting new voters.
Also Richardson will get more Latinos to vote.
Massive democratic sweep in 08!

Then again, Thaiquila, I'm often wrong, and you predicted the Democrats would regain control of both houses of congress, and we didn't believe you.

Apparently some Republican strategists would love to see Hilary be the nominee, thinking they can smear her. But most of them are scared to death that she's unbeatable.

It is now clear Richardson is running for President.
I think he is a better man than Hillary but can't win the nomination.
A Rodham/Richardson ticket already coming to fruition.
Forget Obama for now. Maybe in eight years.

I'm sure Mr. Richardson is a better man than Ms. Clinton is.

So, do you think a Black lesbian atheist can get elected by 2028? Just kidding....

Ummm.
Never.

Tell that to to folks in New Hampshire.................................



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Barack Osambo is comming on strong........................................




Uh, no. But you don't know much about women.............................

He's a nobody. No chance of being nominated.

i agree, but am excited about hillary

pipe dream
n.
A fantastic notion or vain hope.

Oh my!!! Hillary is Sooooooooo qualified...

After all, she was the cheated-on wife of the most despicable excuse of a President we ever accidently elected.

...but then she didn't really cheat thousands of land buyers in Whitewater...
...and she really did'nt earn illegal hugundous profits in futures insider trading scams.

The woman has ridden on the shoulders of bubba for many years...but what else has she accomplished, except graduating law school...which any well lettered scum-bag can do?

You guys simply have issues with your mothers...
Bean

We simply have issues with our mothers? That's all it is, followed by laughing emoticons? KenBean, my mother died when I was six years old. I hope you were properly raised by a God-fearing mother. Eleanor Roosevelt said to some mother who lost several boys during world war two, that if it was up to mothers, there wouldn't be wars. Unfortunately, Eleanor was wrong. Real men don't kill.

Back to qualifications for the job: eight years in the White House, several years in the Senate. Hillary is more qualified than Obama, who has just been called Osambo by our resident racist.

Then, any wife of any President would be qualified for office using your (poor) reasoning.

Every one of them should be elected because they were married to a President. Rubbish.

What has she done for New York? After illegally running there as she didn't or hadn't even ever lived there? She should be elected as President simply because she used New York as a shoulder to stand on to get to the presidency? No.

And, being more qualified than Obama doesn't prove anything other than his incompetency. Doesn't prove her qualiifed at all for the job.

No, I don't mean that being "First Lady" qualifies a lady for being "Mrs. President," and you're right that my argument wasn't very logical.

What relevance does her election (based on dubious residency) have, if she's serving in the office? Many of us don't feel that GWBush was legally elected, but we can't argue with the Supreme Court. She's a Senator.

I think it's hypocritical for any Republican to criticize Democratic candidates while the current president was less qualified than Jimmy Carter was.

[quote name='Fit2BThaied' date='Jun 10 2007, 02:33 PM' post='101748']

What relevance does her election (based on dubious residency) have, if she's serving in the office? Many of us don't feel that GWBush was legally elected, but we can't argue with the Supreme Court. [/quote]

Correct. The Supreme Court settleed the issue after count after count still found that Bush was the winner. Unlike NIxon who stepped aside when the same thing happened to him, he let Kennedy take the Presidency.
[quote]She's a Senator.[/quote]
She got elected by a state where she didn't reside, which broke the rules. She a Senator who has done piss little while there, other than to hold the office as a leaping board to the Presidency. What has she done...........for New York?

I think it's hypocritical for any Republican to criticize Democratic candidates while the current president was less qualified than Jimmy Carter was.
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This seems to be more or less a Hillary pep rally.

Why would she be a good president?

No... really. What has she ever done that makes you think she would be a good president?

Gosh darn it, boh phen yang, there you go asking relevant, pertinent questions. You have the nerve to hint that somebody has to actually do something to be a good president. What has George W. Bush done? Well, maybe that indicates he's not a good president.

What has Barak Obama done in his short life? Other than starrring on some hillbilly TV show, what has Fred Thompson done that Hilary isn't doing? Lack of experience didn't keep two movie stars from becoming governor of California. Hey, that's what it's all about; you have to elect a TV or movie star! Let's see; there's Brad Pitt, Keanu Reeves, Robert Redford, Shirley McClane....and Cher!

Apart from the diversion you created to keep from answering the question about Hildebeast, here is the info on President Bush I could think of off the top of my head: Interest rates are down, unemployment lowest point in years, family incomes are up, stock market up.......


One movie star was leader of the actor's union for years, and very politically active in conservative causes prior to his stint as governor, which is a little more experience than which you are alluding. Schwartznegger .......... a democrat hiding in republican clothing and married into an influential family...........all for meeting his goals he set while he was a youngster in Germany. He wanted to come to America (by being a bodybuilder champion), "marry a Kennedy," and run for president.

Now, back to Hilldebeast. What has she done besides make a bunch of noise about doing something, and changing her views over 100 times to fit whatever will benefit her (according to the latest book about her from one of her former associates)?

Start with her job as Senator of New York.............

And, making speeches and loud noises do not count for accomplishments...

C'mon, aside from your inaccurate statements about the Austrian who could never be president of the USA, you've sidestepped the fact that neither Reagan nor Schwarzeneggar had any experience in government prior to governing, AFAIK. That's a common brain fart among Republicans, to fantasize that a person can govern an immense government without having relevant experience. In fact, being governor of Texas doesn't qualify very well for being president.

Hilary is doing what members of Congress do. She learns 189 issues about government, she attends legislative sessions and committee hearings, keeps in touch with constituents. Same as Robert Dole and Fred Thompson and Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy and Gerald Ford and Harry S. Truman did, before setting their sights on the White House.

SoloNav, let's have you run for president. You're qualified, by Republican standards.

I didn't say he knew anything about politics while a youth in Germany. I'm telling you his plan he made while a youth. So far, he's got two out of three. You need to quit jumping to conclusions based upon one thought out of context (by you). BTW, Who's to say he couldn't get the other? It would only take an amendment.

Take a look: (Hint. This is a link.) One of the proposals, by Schwarzenegger political friend Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, would allow anyone who has been a U.S. citizen for 20 years and has resided in the country for 14 years to be elected president. Hatch denies that he proposed the amendment on July 10 with Schwarzenegger in mind, but it turns out that the 56-year-old actor-businessman was naturalized in 1983.

"I believe the time has now come to address the antiquated provision of the Constitution that requires our president to be a natural-born citizen," Hatch said.

Hatch spokeswoman Margarita Tapia denied the proposal had anything to do with Schwarzenegger, who has raised money for Hatch.....





He's just waiting around.....





Regardless of what you say, Reagan did a bangup job as President........... I think you need to look into his history prior to being President, and quit automatically disqualifying him because he was also an actor. College-educated with a major in economics and sociology, President of the Screen Actors Guild for years, active in fighting communism within the motion picture industry, worked in national politics by campaigning for conservatives (after he switched from the Democratic party to the Republican party), spokesman for GE, served in the armed forces during WWII, and impressive enough for Californians with his political savvy and political knowledge to get elected as Governor. I guess you prefer the slimly halls of government as being the best educator? BTW, where did George Washington get his experience? Lincoln? Did you know that Lincoln didn't even finish high school........had only 18 mos of school. By your standards, he wasn't qualified either to be President.
In fact, quite a few of our past Presidents didn't finish high school.

Get the grind out of your grits about Bush. Ok? While in office the interest rates have gone up, employment is up, family income is up, and the stock market is up.



YOu out to go marry her if you feel so highly about her. I'm still asking you what she had DONE while a Senator? Attending meetings doesn't qualify. I could do that.

No, by American standards anyone can run. You really need to read your history, Fit.

You're off topic, SoloNav. I said nothing, did I, about university education? And you're still referring to Arnold as a German or a person who lived in Germany. I just checked 5 online biographies which never, ever mention Germany. He's Austrian.

Lincoln was a lawyer. Two degrees from Ivy League universities didn't help Bush much, and according to Molly Ivins, Bush was rejected from attending law school at UT-Austin for the two best reasons: low GPA and low scores on the standard test for law school.

But I haven't called him Shrub lately, while you still call the US Senator Hildebeast, which makes me wonder what you call Barack Obama offline.

Hillary's biography shows she has had strong family values, having devoted many years of her professional and public life to the issues of children's rights. From childhood, she's been more Methodist than it appears G. W. Bush has ever been. She read Bonhoffer! I can't think of a single political figure who knows the writings of Bonhoffer, such as The Cost of Discipleship. Have you read it? It's a great book based on the Sermon on the Mount, and he says that when Christ calls us to follow Him, Christ calls us to die.

I don't know if Hillary cheated and lied about the Whitewater land scandal. I don't know if she's the absolutely best candidate out there. But you, SoloNav, seem to have joined the demonizers who are intent on slandering her.

I'm on topic. You just don't like what I had to say. What a silly thing to say. You don't have to control this whole post, do you? This is a two-way conversation, you know? We're talking about qualifications. Do I expect you to list only the things we can talk about? No.

So, he's Austrian. What's the diff? He's still a foreigner. Nice try at trying to change the subject , though, for getting caught in your web created by your previous post. You're doing your trick you have when you get flustered, you attack someone's spelling or grammar (ad hominem) when you can't think of anything else to say.

But, he wasn't educated......self taught. In your estimation, that would make him illegible, no? Without proper experience.......... After all, you were sarcastically suggesting that I run for President because of your perception of my lack of the same, and saying that it was a Republican brain fart to think that just anyone can run for President.

Watch it. You're demonizing him . I don't take the word of Molly Ivins for anything. She's a liberal-leftist and has nothing good to say about anything unless it's that close to socialism.
You're demonizing him.

Oh be quiet. You're not good at mindreading. And, you're close to demonizing me.

THAT is a ridulous qualification for you to mention. She's read Bonhoffer. How's about the bible...........and practicing it?

Then, you deaf and blind to her past actions. What not read the latest book written by one of her former associates. It talks about the 100+ changes she's made to fit with the polls......just like her cheating husband did. Do you know that while vilifying the oil companies, it was found out that she and Bill both have a large amount of stocks in oil companies? And, then had the gall to say she didn KNOW she had stocks in oil companies?

Oh, the truth is slander? And, you, Fit, are intent upon being blind to her faults while extolling our President............called him "Shrub, " did you?

Does that make you a hypocrite?

Let's try to get back on subject. What are the right qualifications to become and actually act as president? Compared to the other candidates in all parties, how does Hillary compare?

Wait, that might sound to some hypercritical people that I'm trying to control this discussion. Okay, folks, how about if we maybe try to focus a bit more on the matter actually at hand?

Who's Hillary Rodham? Is Mrs Bill getting a divorce or new knee pads?

President: Head Politician
Politician: Untrustworthy person pretending to be acting in others interest in order to gain said individuals vote of confidence to be put in a position to easily get money from special interests in order to give said interest an unfair advantage in the market place or to advance some unpopular agenda. (Give me an exception if you can..even in your local government).

It is a shame that I see things that way. But even as a child I noticed that promises and actions from politicians were not the same. Nothing much has changed in 40 or 50 years except it has gotten worse. Poor baby, Hillary has already been caught up in some pretty shady (to put it lightly) business deals. She would not be a good President. I think maybe Fred would be fairly close to real but I believe even that is wishful thinking on my part.

I agree with you, Boh. It's unfortunate, but American Democracy has been slowly adapting over the decades to better serve the purpose of ambitious individuals.

Evolution guides our politics. What is not needed, eventually disappears. What is needed, is celebrated and diversified.

What is not needed in the American political system (or what has been gradually less and less significant in the American political system) is actual knowledge of policy or governance.

What is needed in the American political system is a powerful political campaign machine, a charismatic voice, and an enthusiastic financial donor base.

Therefore policy knowledge disappears. Political strength is emphasized. If Policy knowledge really mattered anymore Chris Dodd, Ron Paul and Bill Richardson would be top tier candidates.

Unfortunate is correct. It has been a growing weed since long before my time. Political campaign machines are no different than any other advertising machines... I mean really, how many laundry soaps can be the best. The nearest ad campaign to the truth I can remember was Avis "We're number 2 so we try harder', and that was crap. But politicians are more in line with 'Camel, The cigarette more doctors prefer'.

My great fear is; too many Americans will not see this (he says with amazement and disbelief) and will vote the parties that openly boast 'larger government and more control by the government' to the point that there can be no escape. Gun control is that exactly. Government control of the press is no less than that. Entitlement programs are no less than modern slavery. Governments love unarmed peasants.