How the neoconservatives maneuvered the US into the Iraq War: Neocons began promoting the Iraq "detour" in 1996 through a report explaining why Israel needed Saddam removed from power. Richard Perle delivered this report to Netanyahu, then the new Prime Minister of Israel. Perle later became a key advisor to Rumsfeld. Wurmser, another author, became Cheney’s advisor on Mid-East affairs, while a third auIn Dec. 1996, neocons explained that Iraq was crumbling and the U.S. and Isreal needed to take it over.
In 1997, neocon Wurmser (now Cheney's advisor) published a book on why Iraq needed regime change.
Neocons wrote open letter to Clinton in 1999 proposing "regime change" in Iraq.
thor, We charge that a cabal of polemicists and public officials seek to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America's interests. We charge them with colluding with Israel to ignite those wars and destroy the Oslo Accords. We charge them with deliberately damaging U.S. relations with every state in the Arab world that defies Israel or supports the Palestinian people's right to a homeland of their own. We charge that they have alienated friends and allies all over the Islamic and Western world through their arrogance, hubris, and bellicosity.
Feith, was appointed second in command under Wolfowitz.
For More check out GlobalEcho.
(See UStrader I can Google too)

It is amazing that a handful of demented racist ashkenazi jews have brainwashed most of the western world, especially america, that "islam is the ememy" when it is clear that they are the ones doing the terror acts, and trying to pin it on "arabs" or a mythical "Al Qaeda" that they created, in order to justify their criminal behavour in the the M.E.

How the neoconservatives maneuvered the US into the Iraq War: Neocons began promoting the Iraq "detour" in 1996 through a report explaining why Israel needed Saddam removed from power. Richard Perle delivered this report to Netanyahu, then the new Prime Minister of Israel. Perle later became a key advisor to Rumsfeld. Wurmser, another author, became Cheney’s advisor on Mid-East affairs, while a third auIn Dec. 1996, neocons explained that Iraq was crumbling and the U.S. and Isreal needed to take it over.
In 1997, neocon Wurmser (now Cheney's advisor) published a book on why Iraq needed regime change.
Neocons wrote open letter to Clinton in 1999 proposing "regime change" in Iraq.
thor, We charge that a cabal of polemicists and public officials seek to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America's interests. We charge them with colluding with Israel to ignite those wars and destroy the Oslo Accords. We charge them with deliberately damaging U.S. relations with every state in the Arab world that defies Israel or supports the Palestinian people's right to a homeland of their own. We charge that they have alienated friends and allies all over the Islamic and Western world through their arrogance, hubris, and bellicosity.
Feith, was appointed second in command under Wolfowitz.
For More check out GlobalEcho.
(See UStrader I can Google too).

Again, traitor is making (what appears to be) poor argument using the same think tanks that developed this criminal policy... its like using the mafia to explain mafia crimes.

I am glad I have taught you something, I am here to help especially the ill equipped and ill informed that use Hubris as their only tools of intellect merit.

Now for lesson two, could you space your paragraphs, it would help understand them better

Lesson three, it usually customary, as surely you have noted many doing here, to put links of supporting evidence so that one can derive some merit, veracity and any mandamus of derived agenda that might be promenaded by those links so they can be acknowledged or rebuked.

Yet, in your google effort, I would give you an F for the efforts vile-a piles. First, this is the Syrian Spin on topic you raised.

http://faculty-staff.ou.edu/L/Joshua.M.Lan...blog/index.html

Second, I assume you are not speaking about Meyrav Wurmser, who is herself the director of the Center for Middle East Policy at the Hudson Institute in Washington, whose Husband NOT HER, actually worked for Cheney.

[b]A recent BBC documentary noted that whereas almost every other Western and Israeli observer allowed their hopes for peace to cloud their judgment of the Oslo process, Wurmser’s acute knowledge of the Palestinian Authority’s tactics led her to realize that the Oslo process was doomed to failure from the outset.

http://www.hudson.org/learn/index.cfm?fuse...bio&eid=Wurmser

I am aware of David Wurmser and other’s Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000. The main substantive ideas in this paper emerge from a discussion in which prominent opinion makers, including Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser participated." Written in 1996, some 12 years ago and if one reads it, they see that in the intervals since its creation, nothing included in it was enacted not acted upon by the US and or Israel. Yet but one thing in conclusions, dealing with the Palestinians with road map would fail as thee 12 years has shown.

I am aware that David Wurmser is the Middle East Adviser to US Vice President Dick Cheney.

I am also aware that since 1948, the blood feasts, misery, tyranny and oppression in the Middle East has not moved 1 inch toward peace, prosperity and the harmony of co-existence. Instead more afar from all of it before 9/11 and since perhaps.

Nevertheless the trend line has not changed before there was a Bush-ism to blame and will be long after there is not his, but another, to blame for these inbreed obtuse huberus problems those in the region will not solve on their own no matter who makes the effort to help them.

Carter tried and failed as the bleedling impotent he was. Clinton Tried and failed with his wind blows opportunism. Before them, were the efforts and failures of Eisenhower, JFK, Johnson, Nixon and Ford. Europe has had a thousand ideas, none have worked and all have failed.

Why because the issue can be only resolved from within the region by a willing people tired of all of the death ad misery they have been self cursed with for now on to 60 years.

Perhaps you have some Ideas instead of the usual cynicism and criticisms on how the region, its people and the world can achieve these goals so that they are acceptable to all parties. I await with baited breath your detailed way to a better future in the Middle East vila-Piles and friends.

Show The Way!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wurmser
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break...uring_the_Realm

TUM DII DAI DII, TUM CHUA DAI CHUA!

THA T
IS
ALL!

Gallows
Again, traitor is making (what appears to be) poor argument using the same think tanks that developed this criminal policy... its like using the mafia to explain mafia crimes.

Gallos-way, one need not defend what is not defendable by either act nor deed. One may acknowledge a critic’s laments but seeing the meaninglessness in them, is not required to argue against that meaningless and ineffectual opine and conjecture so often repeated now on to 6 years, changing nothing since what so ever, nor likely for the time being that is left.

D2D2
It has words, my god, can it be his own original words, nay, it could not be but an echo, asking a shadow to dance.

Traitor obviously is thumping all my megabytes. His mature, walk off with, impenetrable, obvious and psychic rebuke that rehabilitate my harangues in appealing logical thought that sadly I am unable to grasp from the narrow veins of this rhymester-ship I dwell in. I have not the attention span, wit nor the wisdom of comprehending why he does not defend Bush when I lap dance to that tune daily. I can therefore only assume in my humbleness espied and foundling, that after 6 years, he see no meaningful use in defending Bush for he is what he is, done what he has done and is likely as not continue doing what he will do.

I Notice that he never directly supports Bush or the crooked neocons. Because I admit why should defend against my opine and conjecture. Maybe he thinks we are just shooting at messengers instead of a real issues to which none of us have any answers not impact. It's I am like shooting blanks at up armored humvee, I seem defenseless and ineffective somehow. There are not many viable arguments available to support Bush lied and or is incompetence as I harangue and rant constantly but at least Traitor should respect by ability to use others thoughts saving my brain power to express them incoherently on the rare occasions I actually speak. Instead, in my vast ignorance, I think fools us with our delusions he has allows us free rain to prove how impotent we really are in the end. I don't have the mental patience to try to get through the awful retorts Traitor inflicts upon us, the pain is to great and his bards are to sharp for weak will and faint spirit to endure as he rebukes my and others incomprehensible nonsense.

I am really at lost for words D2d2, I did not realize how profoundly I have effected you and how painful my rebukes have been. I need to take perhaps a PC class to get the feel good love and compassion like you girls have. If only I had such estrogen levels, if only!!!

Vile–o-piles

[/b][Mr trader or what ever your name is. I am not a desk pusher or pseudo intellectuall. I go out and work 12/14 hours a day to pay my bills.Which by the way are growing bigger every month due to the incompetence of our politicians.

Let me get this straight YOUR BILLS ARE BIGGER EVERY MONTH BECAUSE SOME ELSE HAS CAUSED THEM TO GROW? IS THAT YOU LAME RANT OF DELUSION, IT IS SOMEONE ELSE’S FAULT I CAN NOT MANAGE TO SPEND LESS THAN I MAKE!! May I suggest you click on this link for help, you are obviously desperate and far gone. http://www.cccs.co.uk/

I buy the Sun.Daily Express and the Daily Mail and I have learned to read between the lines, we are fed bullshit all the time here in the UK as you are in the US.

When everyone conspires against you in lies, manipulations and conspiracy abound, the problem is not everyone, its you lass, seek help now…

However the beauty of the internet is that the alternative view is available, you can Google to your hearts content and come up with all kinds of evidence to back up any theory you want.(Which you all do on this site)But whatever theory you bring up, the plain fact is that America as the only remaining superpower is spiralling out of control and taking the UK with it.

Isn’t that comment actually an oxymoron of double think, praising the alter-net of unknown quality and lamenting another’s use of it as your attention span and laziness is overwhelmed with this preposterous notion that another would use this tool and inate knowledge to rebuke diatribes of unproven opine and ranting.

George Bush could not handle a supermarket trolley so who is running America? who is making his policys.

Well, I think the answer is obvious, just because you don’t like who is making the policies and or the policies, is really inconsequential since, as you say, its NOT YOUR Country, now is it?

I was in Vegas in Nov of last year and I can tell you that Americans are scared. You see terrorists behind every passport that is not American and you treat people with contempt that comes with that fear.

Odd, I fly all the time in the US and abroad. I see no fear or fright in the US at all just wise diligence and heightened security that is keeping all of us safe.

All I see is more security everywhere from the US, Heathrow, to Paris, Bangkok, Jordan and even to Dubi.

Fear lass, not at all, the only ones in fear are those few ME’s moron who want to kill people that we, the world, are taking down every day. I wonder, if this is actually happening as you blather, which of course you embellish greatly, as it is not so.

Why do you suppose a zealot like you would come here if true and why is it that each year more and more come to this evil place. Many like you, from Europe staying in fact. They actually make up 8% of all the 12 Million Illegal immigrants you hear so much about.

It is up to the average American, the guy in the street,you as a tax payer to start asking questions of your leaders.

Lass, they do, it once was ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. It now only is ask what your country can do for you because we know best, as me-ist septics here example so well.

Because if you don't all that you build over the past 200 years will crumble and it will come in your lifetime. These Muslim fanatics have no shortage of volunteers and you cannot just kill them all.

Yet, they are dying by tens of thousands, think about their fate, if we alone, much less the Russians and Euros were actually united against them, instead of fractured in self interests both domestically and internationally. Their days would be shorter still than they are now when we are divided and their fear, as it is now, but far greater, if we were united.

Do I have an answer to the Middle East crisis? Well one way would be to sort out the UN make it totally independant and self reliant, give it the clout it needs, even move it out of the US.

A world government unionist hey, I bet that is going to work out just fine, just like the UN has all these years been a effective international forum of unselfish interests, devoid of self dealing corruption and manipulation and humming along with real effect on the world's problems.

Never going to happen lass, the Euro-topians will be first to resist that for sure.

This would take the pressure off the US and give it time to re-assess and re-build foreign relations with the rest of the world.

Exactly what pressure is being put on the US are speaking of lass?

You obvious do not comprehend how off and on, in self interest these foreign relations vacillate. For instance in the 1930’s, we were disdained as inconsequential, in 1940’s, 1950’s and even early 1960’s we were hero’s of the world, sending treasure flowing and with a 500,000 troops in Europe’s defense and another 175,000 in Asia in its defense. Because we were needed by the impotent who always wait for the worst to happen.

In the later 1960’s, we were again disdained for trying to fix the problems Colonial Europe left asunder in Asia and SE Asia. In the 1980’s Reagan was as hated by the help us not Euro, who still like our 400,000 troops to be there, as Bush is if not more so. Even America's first Minority President, Clinton, was slammed like h e l l, for Bosnia for merely saving Muslim from a Slavic genocide.

Make the head of the UN the most powerfull leader in the world not the US President.(With checks and balances of course)

Already answered this utopian socialist nihilist somersault two paragraphs up.

Then we need to look at history and admit that Great Britain and America made some major blunders in the past and put them right. Starting with Palestine.

I agree, would you please fix Palestine. Oh that’s right, just about every nation and every leader for the last 50 years, has tried to fix that circle jerk mad house full of loons, and well, I am sure your kind will do much better this time. Have at it with our blessing, just don’t ask us to help please.

Now I wish you a Happy New Year and perhaps you could come up with some ideas of your own instead of just quoting other peoples and posting links to theorys that are neither here nor there.

I think you need to read your fellow love feast emirs’ comments here about my posts. Also, I know it is hard to believed for a lazy net zealot to grasp. But we have a tradition and actually once a forum rule, that one should post supporting evidence unlike you as to the veracity and issue one opines about.

OH by the way the name is' Pieles' and is older than your country!

Euro-historical longevity now that the ticket for exampling superiority isn’t it lass? I Doubt that, my father’s ancestors where on this continent before even Rome existed and my mothers where with Alexander when he took Constantinople.

Happy New Year to you, as well, Depilatoria Pieles Normales, el gommer.

FITS
ustrader is a genius with two Ph.D.'s (nuclear physics and Byzantine architecture), and he finished an advanced residency in cancer surgery at Sloan-Kettering, etc. He pretends to be an Alzheimer's patient in Boise, Idaho, with relatives in Thailand. You can humor him, ignore him, correct his grammar, feed him his Pablum, wipe his chin, change his diapers, whatever.

He says to his belly after a full meal, "TUMMY DII DAI DII, TUMMY TUI...."

Na! gliet LOL, FITS, lassy, did you get your meng da to check this out before you butchered his/her language with such mendacity of maturity?

Really FITS you old koewai LOL, is that the best Khee you got? [U]TUMMY ( Not a Thai word) good, get good, Tummy ( Not a Thai word) Tui.[U]

Now FITS I realize you are cherry คนทเปนเกย์ to Thailand and all, but really using a word like TUI that has potentially 9 different meanings depending on its usage in a phrase is khee kiat. You being the model intellectual teacher and all to boot is like being โลว์โซ and a tad like one’s being and acting nawtlut Mao sut.

You do know that Farang means both foreigner and fruit don’t you? shan shob khun, you, baa! Klang!!

TUM DII DAI DII, TUM CHUA DAI CHUA!

The Communalist mindset, An echo, asking a shadow to dance, in a soundless room and a perpetual fog of ambiguity, always assuming substance, but clearly lacking any.-TRADER

The real reason we declared war was 9-11. The real reason we will end it still lies in the future. Some jihadi idiots will do something so outrageously stupid...and hurtful...that the American public will demand no less.

You guys just continue painting a rather large red bull's-eye on your foreheads with your posts here and there across the internet, and perhaps pray that I am mistaken.
Bean

So bean, you "declared war" on what?.... you might as well declared war on "the dark sith lord".... that's how obscure and vague your "war" is.

The "jihadis" are figments of your demented imagination. They are people that do not exist, created out of zionist psychodrama.

The bottom line is that your "war" as murdered over 1/2 million innocent people in iraq and tens of thousands in Afghanistan, 2 countries that have nothing to do with terror.

The country that is the source of 100% of today's terror is israel. This is fact.

www.iamthewitness.com/video/FrenchConnection_6.wmv

So bean, you "declared war" on what?....

The "war on terror" is just a more politically correct label for the war on Islamic fundamentalist.

MARK

What ever it is, it is a myth.. "islamic fundementalism" is a one of those terms created by israel, because israel is a terrorist state, created by terrorists, and forged by terrorism That's why the zionists are tricking america, to fight their enemies... they did it with the King David Hotel, The Lavon Affair, USS Liberty, Beruit bombings, German disco bombings, Panam bombing over Lockerbie and now 9/11.

Arabs did not do 9/11, there is no way.

Not only were they Arabs, but they were also Islamic fundamentalist. Continuing in the great tradition of Muhammad and slaying the unbelievers. MARK

More anti-islamic nausea from a low life bigot..............
King David Hotel, The Lavon Affair, USS Liberty were proven zionist operations as they were caught read handed.... the other instances, the zionists were not caught, but follow the same false flag pattern.

King David Hotel was the Military headquarters for the British Military, The Liberty was a military warship. Nobody died in the Lavon affair. Allmost pathetic to even compare with the 3000 killed on 9/11 by ARAB ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST. MARK

More anti-islamic nausea from a low life bigot..............
King David Hotel, The Lavon Affair, USS Liberty were proven zionist operations as they were caught read handed.... the other instances, the zionists were not caught, but follow the same false flag pattern.

I agree, your right...The Final Solution, allied in brotherhood, smarter, stronger and will win!!!

I am really not interested in zionist propaganda......

So why did the zionist dress up as arabs when they blew up the King David Hotel,?? if it was a "legitimate military target"... which by the way killed women and children.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

Lavon Affair.... "no one died" you are a comedian! They only reason "nobody died" was that the Egyptian security uncovered the plan before it was executed... plus the fact they TRIED TO BLOW UP BRITISH AND AMERICAN SITES!!!!

http://www.mideastweb.org/lavon.htm

USS Liberty.... was a US SHIP I repeat, a US SHIP!!!! 34 AMERICAN SERVICEMEN WERE KILLED!!

http://www.ussliberty.com/

Besides being a zionist apologist, you are not very bright....... so again, looking at these events, how do you know "arabs" did 9/11 when it is clear that the zionists have attempted to create similar false flag events in the past history....

Other than pointing out that the USS liberty was a US ship, did ya have a point? MARK

Pretty disgusting propaganda..... hiding behind Hitler.... as usual in order to justify the terrorism the zionists brought to palestine..... the Biblical quotes are funny and amount to emotional vomit, as 85% of world jewry are not even part of the 12 tribes of israel.... they are a group of ruthless criminal ashkeNAZI jews from eastern europe, who are converts from the 7th century.

Now, getting back to the real, painful questions (before assole traitor hijacked this thread):

WHICH WAS Gallos-way rants of;

I am sincerely sorry, you cannot answer these painful questions traitor, goes to show that you have no case for the legitimacy of Israel.

I ponder puzzelingly, why you would suppose I need to prove in any way the Legitmacy of Isreal. They have proven that handily to the Arabs now 5 times. Each time these ninrods have tried to prove Arab Legitmacy over them, they have unquestionably proven they are a powerful means of legitmacy all unto themselves and will be for very long time to come...



Shalom aleichem (שָׁלוֹם עֲלֵיכֶם;

Iraq War - The Whole Truth, from some of the smartest and most experienced individuals in the US:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6423.htm

As if we needed more evidence of Bush administration deceptions.

Iraq War - The Whole Truth, from some of the smartest and most experienced individuals in the US:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6423.htm

As if we needed more evidence of Bush administration deceptions.

And Bush was against troop increases before he was for it.

http://www.thinkprogress.org/2007/01/08/bush-more-troops/?1

Former Reagan Aide Compares Bush to Hitler:

"Bush is like Hitler. He blames his defeats on his military commanders, not on his own insane policies."

http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=10284

Failure Personified:Yama jama dama yahoo!!;

http://www.antiwar.com/bandow/?articleid=10266