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Nomad
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Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
Uzi Mahnaimi, New York and Sarah Baxter, Washington



ISRAEL has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons.
Two Israeli air force squadrons are training to blow up an Iranian facility using low-yield nuclear “bunker-busters”, according to several Israeli military sources.



The attack would be the first with nuclear weapons since 1945, when the United States dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Israeli weapons would each have a force equivalent to one-fifteenth of the Hiroshima bomb.

Under the plans, conventional laser-guided bombs would open “tunnels” into the targets. “Mini-nukes” would then immediately be fired into a plant at Natanz, exploding deep underground to reduce the risk of radioactive fallout.

“As soon as the green light is given, it will be one mission, one strike and the Iranian nuclear project will be demolished,” said one of the sources.

The plans, disclosed to The Sunday Times last week, have been prompted in part by the Israeli intelligence service Mossad’s assessment that Iran is on the verge of producing enough enriched uranium to make nuclear weapons within two years.

Israeli military commanders believe conventional strikes may no longer be enough to annihilate increasingly well-defended enrichment facilities. Several have been built beneath at least 70ft of concrete and rock. However, the nuclear-tipped bunker-busters would be used only if a conventional attack was ruled out and if the United States declined to intervene, senior sources said.

Israeli and American officials have met several times to consider military action. Military analysts said the disclosure of the plans could be intended to put pressure on Tehran to halt enrichment, cajole America into action or soften up world opinion in advance of an Israeli attack.

Some analysts warned that Iranian retaliation for such a strike could range from disruption of oil supplies to the West to terrorist attacks against Jewish targets around the world.

Israel has identified three prime targets south of Tehran which are believed to be involved in Iran’s nuclear programme:


Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges are being installed for uranium enrichment

A uranium conversion facility near Isfahan where, according to a statement by an Iranian vice-president last week, 250 tons of gas for the enrichment process have been stored in tunnels

A heavy water reactor at Arak, which may in future produce enough plutonium for a bomb
Israeli officials believe that destroying all three sites would delay Iran’s nuclear programme indefinitely and prevent them from having to live in fear of a “second Holocaust”.

The Israeli government has warned repeatedly that it will never allow nuclear weapons to be made in Iran, whose president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has declared that “Israel must be wiped off the map”.


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Sounds plausible but since it is from a UK source it is suspect. However a conventional strike will not work here and with the new pussy leadership in DC Israel may not have a choice if it wishes to survive.
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galloway
QUOTE (Nomad @ Jan 6 2007, 09:37 PM) *
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Sounds plausible but since it is from a UK source it is suspect. However a conventional strike will not work here and with the new pussy leadership in DC Israel may not have a choice if it wishes to survive.
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If terrorist Israel "wishes to survive" it needs not to attack anyone, give back stolen land, apologize and pay monetary compensation for all the innocent people it killed, maimed, tortured, executed, destroyed property for the passed 60 years needs to change its government from zionist to normal and hang the criminals responsible for 99% of the world's terrorism.
dixon76710
QUOTE (galloway @ Jan 7 2007, 12:10 PM) *
If terrorist Israel "wishes to survive" it needs not to attack anyone, give back stolen land, apologize and pay monetary compensation for all the innocent people it killed, maimed, tortured, executed, destroyed property for the passed 60 years needs to change its government from zionist to normal and hang the criminals responsible for 99% of the world's terrorism.


Fight those nasty jews
"...until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
[9.29]

MARK
Nomad
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If terrorist Israel "wishes to survive" it needs not to attack anyone, give back stolen land, apologize and pay monetary compensation for all the innocent people it killed, maimed, tortured, executed, destroyed property for the passed 60 years needs to change its government from zionist to normal and hang the criminals responsible for 99% of the world's terrorism.



011.gif 011.gif 011.gif You still don't get it, you pig fellating muslim neandrathal.
ISRAEL HAS THE NUKES. IRAN WILL NOT GET NUKES. ISRAEL WILL SURVIVE AND PROSPER. YOU DUMB SH!T TOOTHLESS, SLOVENLY MUSLIM PIGS WILL PERISH UNLESS YOU FORSAKE THE KORAN AND THAT STUPID F UCK YOU CALL ALLAH.
It's just that fn simple.......................................

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galloway
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Jan 7 2007, 08:18 PM) *
Fight those nasty jews
"...until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
[9.29]

MARK


Dixon..... the topic is racist zionist jewish oppression against arab populations in Palestine....no need to bring the Quran into this issue... to somehow justify jewish terrorism with mythical "islamic subjugation/oppression", but if you want to change the subject, I will be happy to make you look like the fool you are.

The context, at a time, when the Roman (christian empire) wanted to subjugate the entire muslim world.

Islamic "subjugation" is not the same as Judeo-Christian. We see quite well what the British have done with their colonies, the French in Algeria, the Russians in the Caucuses the americans/zionists in the M.E.


There is a stark contrast in both definition and application.

Islamic history is testament to the SUPERIOR system... that if you want TRUE PEACE, you go with ISLAM.
galloway
Now the ZIONazis are denying the statement.....


Israel denies plan to attack Iran with nukes

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/01/07/israel-iran.html


"We didn't mean to attack the USS Liberty, we thought it was an Egyptian horse ship, trust us....: Zionists
"We didn't mean to place bombs in Egypt during the Lavon Affair.... it was a "military exercise", trust us.... Zionists
"We didn't do 9/11, trust us".......: Zionists
dixon76710
QUOTE (galloway @ Jan 7 2007, 11:08 PM) *
Dixon..... the topic is racist zionist jewish oppression against arab populations in Palestine....no need to bring the Quran into this issue... to somehow justify jewish terrorism with mythical "islamic subjugation/oppression", but if you want to change the subject, I will be happy to make you look like the fool you are.


I was refering to your stated goal of eliminating Israel.

QUOTE (galloway @ Jan 7 2007, 11:08 PM) *
The context, at a time, when the Roman (christian empire) wanted to subjugate the entire muslim world.


Wow! you really just dont know much of anything about this religion you blindly follow. Muhammad didnt fight with the roman empire. When that verse was written he was fighting his own people and the Jewish tribes in the arabian penninsula.


QUOTE (galloway @ Jan 7 2007, 11:08 PM) *
Islamic "subjugation" is not the same as Judeo-Christian.


"...acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection" Yes I know, its much worse.

QUOTE (galloway @ Jan 7 2007, 11:08 PM) *
Islamic history is testament to the SUPERIOR system... that if you want TRUE PEACE, you go with ISLAM.


LOLOLOL! Looking at the state of the majority Muslim nations and compare them to the majority Christian nations in the world today and one might conclude that Islam leads to warfare...... not to mention poverty and political oppression. MARK
galloway
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I was refering to your stated goal of eliminating Israel.


I never said that, that's your own words, because it is the central to your propaganda. What I may of said, just like any other terror regime, (ie Nazis) the zionist regime, and its allies need to be dismantled and the criminals put to justice.


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Wow! you really just dont know much of anything about this religion you blindly follow. Muhammad didnt fight with the roman empire. When that verse was written he was fighting his own people and the Jewish tribes in the arabian penninsula.


I don't "blindly follow islam", I do it with knowledge. Unlike you, your hatred for islam allows you to fool yourself with the mis-information you produce. The romans moved to attack muslims, that's why they moved their forces SOUTH to Tabuk, and that's where they fought the muslims during the Caliphate of Omar. The jewish tribes conspired with the idolators of arabia against the Prophet and this followers. This is clearly documented. There treason was clearly documented. They were NOT innocent.


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"...acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection" Yes I know, its much worse.
LOLOLOL! Looking at the state of the majority Muslim nations and compare them to the majority Christian nations in the world today and one might conclude that Islam leads to warfare...... not to mention poverty and political oppression.


Your conclusion is invalid. Islam does not "require warefare". Watch the video I just posted about palestine and you should understand the underlying issue is zionism.... as islamic states in history ruled with peace, justice, tolerance and security. Its only when zionism and its root, darwinism appeared on the face of the earth that violence and hatred appears and you start your propaganda.
jester
Hahahaha....galloway you crease me up. Now it's not only zionist christianity but also Darwin who is to blame for islam being in the crapper. And how the romans could attack muslims is beyond stupidity. What next, is it the dinosaurs fault(sorry you don't believe in them do you)? Face it muslims have turned into such a load of whiners and blamers your own god has abandoned you all as not worth his attention or interest....... laugh.gif laugh.gif
MrLeft
QUOTE (Nomad @ Jan 7 2007, 09:26 PM) *
011.gif 011.gif 011.gif You still don't get it, you pig fellating muslim neandrathal.
ISRAEL HAS THE NUKES. IRAN WILL NOT GET NUKES. ISRAEL WILL SURVIVE AND PROSPER. YOU DUMB SH!T TOOTHLESS, SLOVENLY MUSLIM PIGS WILL PERISH UNLESS YOU FORSAKE THE KORAN AND THAT STUPID F UCK YOU CALL ALLAH.
It's just that fn simple.......................................

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What a redneck racist. mad.gif
galloway
QUOTE (jester @ Jan 9 2007, 03:05 AM) *
Hahahaha....galloway you crease me up. Now it's not only zionist christianity but also Darwin who is to blame for islam being in the crapper. And how the romans could attack muslims is beyond stupidity. What next, is it the dinosaurs fault(sorry you don't believe in them do you)? Face it muslims have turned into such a load of whiners and blamers your own god has abandoned you all as not worth his attention or interest....... laugh.gif laugh.gif



Stop being an ignorant fool (jester) and go learn something about islamic history.
unbiasedbias
Like I said in my other post...Religion is the root of all evil! I'm going to start a new one called Don't Be a Dick! All one has to do to be in favor with the god of DBAD is to simply not be a dick! popcorn.gif
dixon76710
QUOTE (unbiasedbias @ Jan 11 2007, 05:12 PM) *
Like I said in my other post...Religion is the root of all evil! I'm going to start a new one called Don't Be a Dick! All one has to do to be in favor with the god of DBAD is to simply not be a dick! popcorn.gif


How does this evil that emanates from christianity manifest itself in todays world? What have the hindu's done to you lately? MARK
galloway
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Jan 11 2007, 05:02 PM) *
How does this evil that emanates from christianity manifest itself in todays world? What have the hindu's done to you lately? MARK



Zionism's evil has touched us all in the form of a world wide terrorist conspiracy.
dixon76710
QUOTE (galloway @ Jan 11 2007, 07:01 PM) *
Zionism's evil has touched us all in the form of a world wide terrorist conspiracy.


Acts
I wouldnt agree that Zionism is part of Christianity. Zionism is the restoration of Israel by people. Christianity prophecizes that jesus will be the one to restore Israel when he returns.

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"Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" And He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. 1:6

He shall send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.
3:20

'After this I will return And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down; I will rebuild its ruins, And I will set it up'. 15:15


MARK
Nomad
QUOTE (MrLeft @ Jan 10 2007, 01:48 PM) *
What a redneck racist. mad.gif

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The angry wet behind the ears liberal speaks........ 011.gif 011.gif 011.gif
If you ever grow up son you will see that I am right,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Fool.
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unbiasedbias
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Jan 11 2007, 05:02 PM) *
How does this evil that emanates from christianity manifest itself in todays world? What have the hindu's done to you lately? MARK


popcorn.gif All religion is the ROOT of all evil....that doesn't mean all religious beliefs ARE evil...it just means that the potential is there for evil to develop because religion is a man made thing.

All Religions have rules man has said his God made. Hence, all who follow what man says his god said to do are in fact following whom? Why, the man of the hour of course! Whether it be the pope of some neighborhood preacher or some radical islamic or jew or whatever....religion is about what man wants. They have nothing to do with God. Man uses it for a tool to justify getting his way.

For example, here's the real translation of Radical Islam followers versus anyone else....RI: I want what I want so give it to me or you're dead muthafka... So whom do they attract to their ranks? Angry aggressive haters with a bloodlust, vile contemptuous human beings who are free to SAY some god -who is not allowed to speak for himself but through their human 'leaders' -demanded this behavior of them. If their god turned coat today and told them he changed his mind, do you think the RI would stop their past beliefs? Hell no! Because they were attracted to this belief system because it gave them what they wanted. People join a religion because it gives THEM what they think is good for them. Hence, Religion is not even real! It's an excuse to do what you like. Just look at the hundreds of denominations of Christianity for proof. Man makes religious beliefs based on what HE wants and then uses God's name in vain to justify it all.

You know...let me give you one more example of religionists thinking god only speaks to them so they are the only right ones in the world....take the Cardinals who go into select the new Pope.....they sit there and wait for God to tell them whom among them HE wants to be the next spokesperson for HIM. Yet, invariably the first round of voting is not unanimous....hence we are to gleen from this that God did not speak to any of them or at least not to all of them....they chose who THEY wanted! I am to wonder then, since this select group of men can't actually hear what God is saying to them or else they'd have all gotten it right the first time, if this group of men can hear god at all? I'd say, no they can't, hence why are any of them then going to be in a position to speak for god as Pope? It's a farce!

Man is running the show. That man pretends he is doing god's work is evil! And when he gets away with it and feels the power of control over others, that power can corrupt....I'm not saying it always does...but it can and often does, hence Religion is the Root of all Evil because Man uses god to portray good for whatever bad he feels is best of his needs.

Step into this scenario.....instead of the RI who saw off heads of innocent human beings in the name of their Religion saying the act is part of what their God approved for them blah blah and they are pleasing their god....let's make that person say, I want to do this because I want my way! Now it's more wrong to more people, isn't it? Because this man is alone in his personal beliefs. Now it's murder instead of Jihad!...by a madman instead of a devout religious follower.

I'm sorry...it's just all about not being a Dick, man! What is going on with the various tribes in Iraq now, is over oil and power, yet they still band together as if they are winning one for their gipper by continuing to be Dicks over oil and power for themselves.

Did any of this answer your question?
dixon76710
QUOTE (unbiasedbias @ Jan 13 2007, 08:05 AM) *
Did any of this answer your question?


Didnt EVEN begin to. But thats why I saked the question because I knew you could not provide an answer.
People doing unto others as you would have them do unto you is not evil. It doesnt become evil because God didnt realyy tell them that. MARK
unbiasedbias
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Jan 13 2007, 08:44 AM) *
Didnt EVEN begin to. But thats why I saked the question because I knew you could not provide an answer.
MARK


Well, sorry, but that's what happens when you ask questions that skip over the main point of the statement in the first place. Wrongs are not just wrong because someone did them to ME! Wrong is wrong no matter who it is done to. So even as a Hindu has not done anything directly to me, so what? Their religious beliefs do not put men and women on a level playing field....neither does most forms of Christianity. Hence, I feel for ya my sissa! Men using religion for ego purposes. Great, isn't it? God showing favoritism. What if our parents did this to us as kids?

Now before you go thinking, Oh she's a feminist, let me say this...I hate Hillary Clinton!
dixon76710
QUOTE (unbiasedbias @ Jan 14 2007, 08:09 AM) *
Well, sorry, but that's what happens when you ask questions that skip over the main point of the statement in the first place. Wrongs are not just wrong because someone did them to ME! Wrong is wrong no matter who it is done to. So even as a Hindu has not done anything directly to me, so what? Their religious beliefs do not put men and women on a level playing field....neither does most forms of Christianity. Hence, I feel for ya my sissa! Men using religion for ego purposes. Great, isn't it? God showing favoritism. What if our parents did this to us as kids?

Now before you go thinking, Oh she's a feminist, let me say this...I hate Hillary Clinton!


It directly addressed the main point of the statement. But at least now you attempted to answer the question.


QUOTE (unbiasedbias @ Jan 14 2007, 08:09 AM) *
Their religious beliefs do not put men and women on a level playing field....neither does most forms of Christianity.


Bunch of nonsense. Men and women were not put on a level playing field, long before religion ever even addressed the issue. I would presume from your singular example of how the evil of christianity manifest itself in todays world, that what you really meant was that men are the root of all evil. Damned feminist.
MARK
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