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Pauly Walnuts
All thats missing is the tumbleweeds.....oh, thats right.....probably in the Oval Office..
Thaiquila
QUOTE (Gop 4 life! @ Jun 24 2004, 10:51 PM)

Of, YOU would like this naive ultra nationalistic pro Bush propoganda.
Gop 4 life!
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Jun 25 2004, 04:18 PM)
QUOTE (Gop 4 life! @ Jun 24 2004, 10:51 PM)

Of, YOU would like this naive ultra nationalistic pro Bush propoganda.

*Yawns*

It's true, America likes cowboys.
Pauly Walnuts
Thai-loser...

I am not a George Busg Republican...actually I am a Democrat ( you my friend are a socialist). Because I am a democrat dosen't mean I have to spew forth hate for the man.

I disagree with the President on some issues and agree on others. This also applies to my own party's candidate, John Kerry.

The problem I see with my party is that we do move far too left at times and border on the ridiculous (especially while embracing socialist curry-munchers like you). The opposition party also has it's problems, but that is not for me to be concerned with.

We need more statemen (or statespersons---just to be politically correct..which is crap in my view) who can come together and put forth legislation to help our people and stop legislating on things that government dosen't belong in. Government is NOT always the and Thai-Loser.....so put the wooden chop-sticks down and try eating a hamburger once in awhile.
Gop 4 life!
Pauly, who are you going to vote for?
Thaiquila
QUOTE (Pauly Walnuts @ Jun 25 2004, 04:58 PM)
Thai-loser...

I am not a George Busg Republican...actually I am a Democrat ( you my friend are a socialist). Because I am a democrat dosen't mean I have to spew forth hate for the man.

I disagree with the President on some issues and agree on others. This also applies to my own party's candidate, John Kerry.

The problem I see with my party is that we do move far too left at times and border on the ridiculous (especially while embracing socialist curry-munchers like you). The opposition party also has it's problems, but that is not for me to be concerned with.

We need more statemen (or statespersons---just to be politically correct..which is crap in my view) who can come together and put forth legislation to help our people and stop legislating on things that government dosen't belong in. Government is NOT always the and Thai-Loser.....so put the wooden chop-sticks down and try eating a hamburger once in awhile.

How did you know that I like spicy curries and noodles? Not much into hamburgers, but do love carne asada burritos.

If you think I am a socialist, that's your interpretation. I don't define myself that way and if you listened to the positive things I say about capitalism, then you would have a hard time defending that assertion.
Pauly Walnuts
GOP...

I will probably hold my nose and vote for John Kerry. I do support muchof his domestic agenda. I also think that a man like the former Senator, Sam Nunn would have been a better candidate, just as I believe the republican party could do better as well. Make no mistake..I do not "hate" the President as many democrats do...this is a matter of differences of opinion. It's up to the public to make the final poll count.

As for you Thai-Loser....

I knew you were a noodle munching, curry licking, nerd. Go erase the dot on your head and get back to me with somehing intelligent someday. In the meantime...get out of my party...we don't need you illegal aliens here..(unless you can flip a burger or vacuum my hotel room for chico)
John L
Pauley,

Let me commend you on being a thoughtful, and concerned Democrat. If one judged the elite media and some of the KOOKs on forums such as this by itself, one would think that there are very few of you left as Democrats.

But this is not so. The problem, however, is how to influence a party when it has drifted away from the principles that once made it great.

Now, I have stated here on this forum, and others, that a competetive, two party, system is to ALL American's benefit. But, truth be told, the Democrats are on the verge of becoming the minority party for generations, if they are not careful. Granted, parties go through cycles, and history brings this out. Prior to the Civil War, the party of Jefferson, was dominant. Following the Civil War, Republicans generally ruled the roost, until 1933. After that, Democrats have been in control until 1994, or if you wish to be a stickler, 2000. The cycle appears to have shifted again. Generally these shifts only account for no more thatn a 5% edge, and they are fairly long lasting.

So, what has gone wrong with the Democratic Party? As you are well aware, it is Collectivism that is the problem. It doesn't matter if it is Socialism, Fascism, Democratic Socialism, or whatever you wish to tag to it. In other words, the Democratic Party has been controlled by leaders who are foremost interested not only in power, but the accumulated power of the Centralized State. This is clearly not what the Founders intended. It is the Individual that is paramont in the Constitution, tempered with Federalism. I think that you will agree with this.

So what to do about it? If you continue to allow your total party loyalty to determine your actions, you will probably be doing your party a stragegic disservice. And keep in mind that most people and party leaders are primarily interested in tactical matters first, strategic matters second. In the short term, this may be fine, but long term, it can be disasterous!

So, it is incumbent upon party members, such as yourself, to make the necessary change. And you do this by exercising your voting rights in a responsible manner. Let's say that you do not particularly like your party candidate, or the other party's either. Simply sit down and make a list of things that are of particular interest to you. Obviously, national security and self defense are at the top of your list. Now, if it is at the top, which one is best at accomplishing this. Also, if the economy and it's health are at the top, then decide which one is best capable of helping here. Go on down the list. But always remember which is at the top.

As an Independent, I look at ALL candidates. I am a Classical Liberal, so I naturally gravitate to the Libertarians, and Libertarian Republicans. But I am also a believer in defending myself. So, this time around, I will vote for GW Bush. Granted, I have more than a few complaints with him. But he is bullish on national defense, so I will vote for him because it is paramont that we protect ourself. And I am not alone. Mayor Koch, In Bolting For Bush, is a case in point. I do not believe anyone, short of Thaiquila, will dispute his Democratic credentials.
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am a lifelong Democrat. I was elected to New York's City Council, Congress and three terms as mayor of New York City on the Democratic Party line. I believe in the values of the Democratic Party as articulated by Presidents Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson and by Senators Hubert Humphrey, Henry "Scoop" Jackson and Daniel Patrick Moynihan. Our philosophy is: "If you need a helping hand, we will provide it." The Republican Party's philosophy, on the other hand, can be summed up as: "If I made it on my own, you will have to do the same."

Nevertheless, I intend to vote in 2004 to reelect President Bush. I will do so despite the fact that I do not agree with him on any major domestic issue, from tax policy to the recently enacted prescription drug law. These issues, however, pale in importance beside the menace of international terrorism, which threatens our very survival as a nation. President Bush has earned my vote because he has shown the resolve and courage necessary to wage the war against terrorism.

In another article, You are Now Everyone's Hero, he shows why he is an honest Democrat.
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I define effectiveness as the ability of public officials to move the country in their political direction. Today we often hear Ronald Reagan's effectiveness compared with that of FDR.

The latter moved the country to the left, which was necessary to escape the Depression. Reagan moved the country to the right. Interesting for me is to see that many people who were critical of Reagan when he was in office are now praising him to the skies.

I thought President Reagan’s reference to the Soviet Union as an "evil empire" was a sublime phrase. But he was attacked by many of the cognoscenti who like to think of themselves as intellectuals and academics, as well as by editorial writers, who labeled Reagan and his comment as puerile.

Please read the entire article.

I could continue on here, but I think that you see my point. And judging by the manner in which you handle Thaiquila, I know that you are aware of the single most important problem with the Democratic Party. It is being controled by the Collectivists from within.

And there is only one way to get rid of them for good. First, support local Democrats who support the individual, not the State. Second, do not be afraid to vote outside the party when the other candidate is a better choice. And lastly, if you are disgusted with all entries, then withhold your vote. Voting for the other party gets the message across quicker, but withholding the vote is also telling. Holding you nose and voting for your "so called" representative will only gain you more foul odor in the future.
John L
Here is something else for you Pauley. Sen. Miller To Speak at GOP Convention. The list of Yellow Dog Democrats is getting shorter by the day, don't you think? smile.gif
Thaiquila
QUOTE (Pauly Walnuts @ Jun 25 2004, 05:11 PM)
GOP...

I will probably hold my nose and vote for John Kerry. I do support muchof his domestic agenda. I also think that a man like the former Senator, Sam Nunn would have been a better candidate, just as I believe the republican party could do better as well. Make no mistake..I do not "hate" the President as many democrats do...this is a matter of differences of opinion. It's up to the public to make the final poll count.

As for you Thai-Loser....

I knew you were a noodle munching, curry licking, nerd. Go erase the dot on your head and get back to me with somehing intelligent someday. In the meantime...get out of my party...we don't need you illegal aliens here..(unless you can flip a burger or vacuum my hotel room for chico)

Hey dude,
we will take your vote because we need to win and stop Bush, but we will have to wipe the smell off it. How dare you tell me to get out of your party! The democratic party is the real big tent party, and if you don't like it, then ...

BTW, I am not an illegal alien and I oppose illegal immigration. I happen to love spicy food. You got a problem with my taste in food? Fine, stick to your heart clogging burgers. I don't care and neither should you.
Gop 4 life!
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Jun 25 2004, 09:13 PM)
QUOTE (Pauly Walnuts @ Jun 25 2004, 05:11 PM)
GOP...

I will probably hold my nose and vote for John Kerry. I do support muchof his domestic agenda.  I also think that a man like the former Senator, Sam Nunn would have been a better candidate, just as I believe the republican party could do better as well.  Make no mistake..I do not "hate" the President as many democrats do...this is a matter of differences of opinion. It's up to the public to make the final poll count.

As for you Thai-Loser....

I knew you were a noodle munching, curry licking, nerd.  Go erase the dot on your head and get back to me with somehing intelligent someday.  In the meantime...get out of my party...we don't need you illegal aliens here..(unless you can flip a burger or vacuum my hotel room for chico)

Hey dude,
we will take your vote because we need to win and stop Bush, but we will have to wipe the smell off it. How dare you tell me to get out of your party! The democratic party is the real big tent party, and if you don't like it, then ...

BTW, I am not an illegal alien and I oppose illegal immigration. I happen to love spicy food. You got a problem with my taste in food? Fine, stick to your heart clogging burgers. I don't care and neither should you.

Please, Pauly is right, radicals like you are EXACTLY what's wrong with the dem party.

Gop speed to real dems like Miller and Liberman in their efforts to take back their party.
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