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MrLeft
The Bush administration is the real terroist entity in the world today. Just because you control an army doesn't mean you are not a terrorist.

You have to understand that George Bush has created more terrorism than he has destroyed. Before this war we didn't have to worry about Iraq as a terrorist nation. Now, it is fraught with terrorists. Iraq was never a threat to the USA but now we have soldier and contractors dying every day in Iraq. Stay the course was the slogan that we heard from every Republican on the Hill. Then all of a sudden they never said that. President Cheney is the worst president ever in the history of this country. I say President Cheney because we all know that he is the one that is really making the policy in the country. Bush is just the boob. How else would you explain the fact that Cheney's plan, (which was planned in 1998) has been executed at every step during this process?

For those of you that don't know this plan for war was set in motion in 1998 by a group of elitist Republicans whose goal was to increase the US military and to basically take over the Middle East. Two key members of this group are Cheney and Rumsfeld. They planned an invasion of Afghanistan, followed by the toppling of Iraq, which would then lead to a war with Iran. Syria would fall in line because of the fact that we had taken over the rest of the Middle East. The only problem that this Elitist group had was an event of the magnitude of Pearl Harbor which would give them the green light to set their plan in motion. You have to wonder if this administration knew about 9-11 before it happened. I find it hard to believe that Bush would just sit and listen to a bunch of kids after finding out what had transpired in NY. Why, 20 minutes after the 2nd plane hit the towers in NY, was Cheney spouting off about Iraq. This entire thing was orchastrated and it is now blowing up in their face.

The people of this country were told that because of links between Iraq and Al Qaeda and the fact that Saddam had WMD Iraq posed a grave threat to the US. We now know that both of these were bold face lies. These are impeachable offenses that should have the entire Bush administration in jail. Colin Powell was lied to time and time again and eventually he had to leave the administration because his soul couldn't bare the burden any longer. Powell was the only memeber of this administration with a conscience.

MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Before Bush leaves office the United states will be at war with Iran. It is all part of the plan. Tens of thousands of Americans will die and the Middle East will be more unstable than it ever was. This is the legacy of the Bush administration. This is the begining of the end of the Roman Empire.
IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (MrLeft @ Feb 20 2007, 08:21 PM) *
The Bush administration is the real terroist entity in the world today. Just because you control an army doesn't mean you are not a terrorist.

You have to understand that George Bush has created more terrorism than he has destroyed. Before this war we didn't have to worry about Iraq as a terrorist nation. Now, it is fraught with terrorists. Iraq was never a threat to the USA but now we have soldier and contractors dying every day in Iraq. Stay the course was the slogan that we heard from every Republican on the Hill. Then all of a sudden they never said that. President Cheney is the worst president ever in the history of this country. I say President Cheney because we all know that he is the one that is really making the policy in the country. Bush is just the boob. How else would you explain the fact that Cheney's plan, (which was planned in 1998) has been executed at every step during this process?

For those of you that don't know this plan for war was set in motion in 1998 by a group of elitist Republicans whose goal was to increase the US military and to basically take over the Middle East. Two key members of this group are Cheney and Rumsfeld. They planned an invasion of Afghanistan, followed by the toppling of Iraq, which would then lead to a war with Iran. Syria would fall in line because of the fact that we had taken over the rest of the Middle East. The only problem that this Elitist group had was an event of the magnitude of Pearl Harbor which would give them the green light to set their plan in motion. You have to wonder if this administration knew about 9-11 before it happened. I find it hard to believe that Bush would just sit and listen to a bunch of kids after finding out what had transpired in NY. Why, 20 minutes after the 2nd plane hit the towers in NY, was Cheney spouting off about Iraq. This entire thing was orchastrated and it is now blowing up in their face.

The people of this country were told that because of links between Iraq and Al Qaeda and the fact that Saddam had WMD Iraq posed a grave threat to the US. We now know that both of these were bold face lies. These are impeachable offenses that should have the entire Bush administration in jail. Colin Powell was lied to time and time again and eventually he had to leave the administration because his soul couldn't bare the burden any longer. Powell was the only memeber of this administration with a conscience.

MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Before Bush leaves office the United states will be at war with Iran. It is all part of the plan. Tens of thousands of Americans will die and the Middle East will be more unstable than it ever was. This is the legacy of the Bush administration. This is the begining of the end of the Roman Empire.


This reads exactly like an angry kid in a sophomore writing class.

Are Cheney and Rumsfeld the only two people in the Administration worth mentioning? What about Wolfowitz, or Perle?

Also, explain to me why you don't talk about the real crazies out there in the Middle East who are carrying out these terrorist actions?

Rage against the machine, man!
MrLeft
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Feb 20 2007, 10:06 PM) *
This reads exactly like an angry kid in a sophomore writing class.

Are Cheney and Rumsfeld the only two people in the Administration worth mentioning? What about Wolfowitz, or Perle?

Also, explain to me why you don't talk about the real crazies out there in the Middle East who are carrying out these terrorist actions?
Rage against the machine, man!


You mean the U.S. forces who kill innocent Iraqi women and children? Those kind of terrorists?
IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (MrLeft @ Feb 20 2007, 09:50 PM) *
You mean the U.S. forces who kill innocent Iraqi women and children? Those kind of terrorists?


Who-oh-oh-oh-oa...

You are saying U.S. military infantry forces are actively engaged and are killing-on purpose- innocent Iraqi civilians willy nily?

And what is the insurgency -who do the same thing you accuse the U.S. army of- to you? Freedom fighters?
iswhatitis
QUOTE (MrLeft @ Feb 20 2007, 09:21 PM) *
MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This is the begining of the end of the Roman Empire.

Sounds like your prayer rather than your prediction. It's amazing to read your rants about evil America, because in order to believe this tripe you must have the biggest blind spot for totalitarian despots. Iraq was tied to the bombing of the trade towers in 1993, and to an attempt to assasinate George HW Bush, and the Iraqi military was shooting at U.S. military planes daily at times, yet in your fantasy Iraq was harmless.

You may be right, it may be the end of U.S. superpower status, but not because of GW Bush. It's the fault of the spineless enemy within that will end that status. The enemy within whines about the war being too long, too many enemy casualties, too many U.S. casualties, too little military hardware, too much money spent on the war, too much Iraqi democracy/indecision, too little involvement in Iraqi politics by America's enemies. That's animosity not criticism. The United States has the ability to bomb a country for 4 years for less money and American life than what has been spent trying convert Iraq into a living democracy. Attempting to transfer power from a dictator to the populace is not the modus operandi of emperors building an empire. Get over your hatred for this country, open your eyes there are real fascists trying to build an empire, a caliphate with all of the characteristics you portend GW and the evil Americans.
IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (iswhatitis @ Feb 20 2007, 11:36 PM) *
Sounds like your prayer rather than your prediction. It's amazing to read your rants about evil America, because in order to believe this tripe you must have the biggest blind spot for totalitarian despots. Iraq was tied to the bombing of the trade towers in 1993, and to an attempt to assasinate George HW Bush, and the Iraqi military was shooting at U.S. military planes daily at times, yet in your fantasy Iraq was harmless.

You may be right, it may be the end of U.S. superpower status, but not because of GW Bush. It's the fault of the spineless enemy within that will end that status. The enemy within whines about the war being too long, too many enemy casualties, too many U.S. casualties, too little military hardware, too much money spent on the war, too much Iraqi democracy/indecision, too little involvement in Iraqi politics by America's enemies. That's animosity not criticism. The United States has the ability to bomb a country for 4 years for less money and American life than what has been spent trying convert Iraq into a living democracy. Attempting to transfer power from a dictator to the populace is not the modus operandi of emperors building an empire. Get over your hatred for this country, open your eyes there are real fascists trying to build an empire, a caliphate with all of the characteristics you portend GW and the evil Americans.


Haha, you guys won't be satisfied merely suggesting Iraq had anything to do with 9/11-or anything involving the WTC- until you find a photo of Hussein pushing the plunger down on the cartoon dynamite like Wiy E. Cyote.
ustrader
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Feb 21 2007, 11:23 PM) *
Haha, you guys won't be satisfied merely suggesting Iraq had anything to do with 9/11-or anything involving the WTC- until you find a photo of Hussein pushing the plunger down on the cartoon dynamite like Wiy E. Cyote.


ohmy.gif I am very sure that has been said on this form before.

Equally as well the counter implication that it was Bush who pushed the plunger and started it all, in his dungeon master cult’s master plan for world domination, warmongering, and, Hitler-istic, set up as the ultimate USA dictator.

A Tejasian dictatorship, bent on oppressing all freedom, criminal activities and pot head utopian idioms, while destroying the planets environment and attacking with extreme prejudice and vitriol, the “wholly” ACLU and all that stand with it.

Oh yea, adding to his motivations, are his intent to make his Tejasian OIL business friends and those of his co-conspirator, Kill-em-all, Cheney, the hate-monger, more money, while they both, with their cult of dungeon masters, secretly eat little Arab children at those state Dinners in a insatiable appetite for Muslim Blood.

I thing this is a near all-encompassing photo image of our diverse extremes who on occasion slither through here from time to time. Don’t you agree?

QUOTE
“Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty.”- Plato

One supposes in this is the ultimate progressive speak, when it really is the untimate Anti-Progressive think speak.
iswhatitis
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Feb 21 2007, 10:23 AM) *
Haha, you guys won't be satisfied merely suggesting Iraq had anything to do with 9/11-or anything involving the WTC- until you find a photo of Hussein pushing the plunger down on the cartoon dynamite like Wiy E. Cyote.

I said exactly what I meant, didn't suggest a thing, and not one time did I mention 9/11 in the post you responded to. "You guys" can not respond to a discussion without "suggesting" any thought contrary to yours' is cartoonish.

Nothing in your response provokes dialogue or even simple argument, because there ain't no thought there just 'memberances' of Saturday morning cartoons. That may be Ivy League, but it's not elite just boorish if I were to assume you know better.
IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (iswhatitis @ Feb 22 2007, 11:53 PM) *
I said exactly what I meant, didn't suggest a thing, and not one time did I mention 9/11 in the post you responded to. "You guys" can not respond to a discussion without "suggesting" any thought contrary to yours' is cartoonish.

Nothing in your response provokes dialogue or even simple argument, because there ain't no thought there just 'memberances' of Saturday morning cartoons. That may be Ivy League, but it's not elite just boorish if I were to assume you know better.


Ah, but calling those who disagree with your failed warmongering policies (Oh no, I hope I didn't offended you!) as "spineless" provokes a civil, intellectual debate?

Please! popcorn.gif popcorn.gif
ustrader
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Feb 25 2007, 02:39 AM) *
Ah, but calling those who disagree with your failed warmongering policies (Oh no, I hope I didn't offended you!) as "spineless" provokes a civil, intellectual debate?

Please! popcorn.gif popcorn.gif


Warmonger;militarist: a person who advocates war or warlike policies; A warmonger is, pejoratively, someone who is anxious to encourage a people or nation to go to war. It is often used to describe militaristic leaders, commonly with the implication that they either may have selfish motives for encouraging war, or may actually enjoy war. ( Anti-intutive to Warriors)

Spineless; adjective; relating to or attributed, to something adding meaning to. namby-pamby: affected maudlin speech, insipid weakling effeminate and foolishly seminmetal, weak as in irresolute, indecisive, lacking will and or power, courage or vitality; thornless: lacking thorns.

ohmy.gif: Spineless one would presume that lable is measured in some form of action in those it is meant to describe as in one would have, could have or did make some manner of effort or even lack of effort to fail but choosing the course of defeat's failures instead victories successes or defeat even in effort.

Perhaps, I think the good sir gives himself a lable he is yet to be accredited with on this forum as having. Thus, dishonoring the truely spinless, who take some form of action meriting such an accredation.

Perhaps, debate in opine, is an action? But of what kind is the question? Is opine in spineless idioms and characterizations an actions or merely words close to but afar from spinelessness ( noun) the quality of lacking a strong character; an irresolute disposition.

Denoting in that lack of character, the unpredictable, unreliable and inconsistent, leaving doubt that in one of such character there is the metal needed to predict the defence of the defenseless, the weak and or the oppressed, perhaps yet not in certain of themselves, at a minimum, if at all...

TUM DII DAI DII, TUM CHUA DAI CHUA!



If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names.”

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ustrader
Double Post??
iswhatitis
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Feb 24 2007, 01:39 PM) *
Ah, but calling those who disagree with your failed warmongering policies (Oh no, I hope I didn't offended you!) as "spineless" provokes a civil, intellectual debate?

Please! popcorn.gif popcorn.gif

You're not offending me, you're just boring me. There's nothing past calling me a warmonger in your response, not a hint of thought on the subject being debated. Apparently you can not get over being offended by my characterization of Mr. Left's purported policy position. It's all right Sunday morning's almost upon us and there will be hours of material presented from which you can construct new analogies. I just will not be duscussing any of them with you until your little heart mends.
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IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (iswhatitis @ Feb 25 2007, 01:28 AM) *
You're not offending me, you're just boring me. There's nothing past calling me a warmonger in your response, not a hint of thought on the subject being debated. Apparently you can not get over being offended by my characterization of Mr. Left's purported policy position. It's all right Sunday morning's almost upon us and there will be hours of material presented from which you can construct new analogies. I just will not be duscussing any of them with you until your little heart mends.
wink.gif


This is like Israel/Palestine, cause no matter how wrong you are you'll think you're correct, and vice versa.

So, in the interest of bipartisanship, let's all agree you're wrong. biggrin.gif popcorn.gif
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