Everyone’s been talking about Israel, and everyone seems to have strong opinions about it. I want to hear them! Personally, I’m very conflicted on the matter. Here are some random thoughts:
I’m no fan of Israel by any means. It’s an imperialist state, occupying land they have no claim to aside from some worthless holy text. Not to mention most conservative and sellout capitalists support Israel in the “war against terrorism,” which to most ignorant Americans means “killing as many Arabs as humanly possible.”
But America is an imperialist state too, justified by Manifest Destiny. If we say that Israel, despite the many years and generations hat have passed, is based on stolen land and must therefore move, then we should leave our own country and move back to England. It may be occupied land, but it is an incredibly tiny country. Is it really worth all this fighting?
What if the American government were to cease any and all support of Israel? I think they would be flattened and outnumbered greatly without our help, because after generations of fighting, Palestine does not want anything but the complete destruction of Israel. And who could blame them? So, maybe that is what we should do? After all, the “terrorists” hate America because we support the Jewish state. But then again, do we really want it to end so violently?
Perhaps the 1967 borders and sharing Jerusalem should be their goals. The whole, “who has committed more evil?” argument is moot at this point. Both sides are equally guilty. There is no perfect justice, what happened has happened. Maybe everyone should just chill the fug out. OR maybe they should work for a two-state system, eventually leading to a socialist state.
I don’t know. What do you guys think?
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QUOTE (MrLeft @ Mar 6 2007, 11:29 AM) 
Everyone’s been talking about Israel, and everyone seems to have strong opinions about it. I want to hear them! Personally, I’m very conflicted on the matter. Here are some random thoughts:
I’m no fan of Israel by any means. It’s an imperialist state, occupying land they have no claim to aside from some worthless holy text. Not to mention most conservative and sellout capitalists support Israel in the “war against terrorism,” which to most ignorant Americans means “killing as many Arabs as humanly possible.”
But America is an imperialist state too, justified by Manifest Destiny. If we say that Israel, despite the many years and generations hat have passed, is based on stolen land and must therefore move, then we should leave our own country and move back to England. It may be occupied land, but it is an incredibly tiny country. Is it really worth all this fighting?
What if the American government were to cease any and all support of Israel? I think they would be flattened and outnumbered greatly without our help, because after generations of fighting, Palestine does not want anything but the complete destruction of Israel. And who could blame them? So, maybe that is what we should do? After all, the “terrorists” hate America because we support the Jewish state. But then again, do we really want it to end so violently?
Perhaps the 1967 borders and sharing Jerusalem should be their goals. The whole, “who has committed more evil?” argument is moot at this point. Both sides are equally guilty. There is no perfect justice, what happened has happened. Maybe everyone should just chill the fug out. OR maybe they should work for a two-state system, eventually leading to a socialist state.
I don’t know. What do you guys think?
I’m no fan of Israel by any means. It’s an imperialist state, occupying land they have no claim to aside from some worthless holy text. Not to mention most conservative and sellout capitalists support Israel in the “war against terrorism,” which to most ignorant Americans means “killing as many Arabs as humanly possible.”
But America is an imperialist state too, justified by Manifest Destiny. If we say that Israel, despite the many years and generations hat have passed, is based on stolen land and must therefore move, then we should leave our own country and move back to England. It may be occupied land, but it is an incredibly tiny country. Is it really worth all this fighting?
What if the American government were to cease any and all support of Israel? I think they would be flattened and outnumbered greatly without our help, because after generations of fighting, Palestine does not want anything but the complete destruction of Israel. And who could blame them? So, maybe that is what we should do? After all, the “terrorists” hate America because we support the Jewish state. But then again, do we really want it to end so violently?
Perhaps the 1967 borders and sharing Jerusalem should be their goals. The whole, “who has committed more evil?” argument is moot at this point. Both sides are equally guilty. There is no perfect justice, what happened has happened. Maybe everyone should just chill the fug out. OR maybe they should work for a two-state system, eventually leading to a socialist state.
I don’t know. What do you guys think?
Puff the Magic Dragon
"PUFF THE MAGIC DRAGON"
Puff the Magic Dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called HONALEE, Little Jackie Paper loved that rascal Puff and brought him strings and sealing wax and other fancy stuff.
Oh, Puff the Magic Dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called HONALEE, Puff the Magic Dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called HONALEE.
Together they would travel on a boat with billowed sail, Jackie kept a look out perched on Puff's gigantic tail. Noble Kings and princes would bow whene'er they came, pirate ships would lower their flag when Puff roared out his name.
Oh, Puff the Magic Dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called HONALEE, Puff the Magic Dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called HONALEE.
A dragon lives forever, but not so little boys painted wings and giant's rings make way for other toys. One grey night it happened Jackie Paper came no more and Puff that Mighty Dragon, he ceased his fearless roar.
His head was bent in sorror, green scales fell like rain, Puff no longer went to play along the cherry lane. Without his life-long friend, Puff could not be brave so Puff that Mighty Dragon silently slipped into his cave.
Oh, Puff the Magic Dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called HONALEE, Puff the Magic Dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called HONALEE
Mr. Left, I basically agree with your opening post, but from the viewpoint of Christian pacifism. Solution? Educate the Israelis about Jewish pacifism. Remind the Palestinians that the First Intifada was basically non-violent, and try to convince them a Third Intifada could be both non-violent and successful. Shame the violent, terrorist American, Christian and Jewish supporters of Zionism to renounce their sin.
So, I can look further on the CD I'm listening to (currently, Joan Baez is singing "Imagine" - I'm not making this up), and I'll find the greatest hits of Peter, Paul and Mary, including 'Puff' and 'Blowin' in the Wind."
The most insane point is that I'm considered insane by the lunatics in the asylum, because I think that war is the most impractical failure of all time, and they're deluded into thinking war is righteous!
So, I can look further on the CD I'm listening to (currently, Joan Baez is singing "Imagine" - I'm not making this up), and I'll find the greatest hits of Peter, Paul and Mary, including 'Puff' and 'Blowin' in the Wind."
The most insane point is that I'm considered insane by the lunatics in the asylum, because I think that war is the most impractical failure of all time, and they're deluded into thinking war is righteous!
Israel was established by the UN in 1947. Since that point in time the Arabs have tried on numerous occasions to destroy her. This conflict is not about the tiny amount of land Israel sits upon. The conflict is about centuries of Arabs hating Jews. It has been spun into a land issue by those that despise her existance in the hope of legitimizing a "rightgeous" cause for the termination of her existance. Had the Arabs not induldged their hatred and chose to peacefully coexist with Israel the entire region would have benifited.
Israel an "imperialist state"? This is beyond absurd. When one looks at the amount of land Israel has occupied during times of conflict and then returned thereafter only one ignorant of history would make such a claim. The land Israel occupies now (outside of its 1947 borders) is land needed to secure her and her citizens from future attacks.
No, Israel was never the aggressor here. Unless one defines agression as defending oneself.
Israel an "imperialist state"? This is beyond absurd. When one looks at the amount of land Israel has occupied during times of conflict and then returned thereafter only one ignorant of history would make such a claim. The land Israel occupies now (outside of its 1947 borders) is land needed to secure her and her citizens from future attacks.
No, Israel was never the aggressor here. Unless one defines agression as defending oneself.
QUOTE (zooky @ Mar 8 2007, 09:31 PM)
Israel was established by the UN in 1947. Since that point in time the Arabs have tried on numerous occasions to destroy her. This conflict is not about the tiny amount of land Israel sits upon. The conflict is about centuries of Arabs hating Jews. It has been spun into a land issue by those that despise her existance in the hope of legitimizing a "rightgeous" cause for the termination of her existance. Had the Arabs not induldged their hatred and chose to peacefully coexist with Israel the entire region would have benifited.
Israel an "imperialist state"? This is beyond absurd. When one looks at the amount of land Israel has occupied during times of conflict and then returned thereafter only one ignorant of history would make such a claim. The land Israel occupies now (outside of its 1947 borders) is land needed to secure her and her citizens from future attacks.
No, Israel was never the aggressor here. Unless one defines agression as defending oneself.
Israel an "imperialist state"? This is beyond absurd. When one looks at the amount of land Israel has occupied during times of conflict and then returned thereafter only one ignorant of history would make such a claim. The land Israel occupies now (outside of its 1947 borders) is land needed to secure her and her citizens from future attacks.
No, Israel was never the aggressor here. Unless one defines agression as defending oneself.
Is it true that those displaced with the creation of Israel received monetary compensation?
I heard something about that but haven't found it in any Google searches.
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Mar 9 2007, 11:23 AM)
Is it true that those displaced with the creation of Israel received monetary compensation?
I heard something about that but haven't found it in any Google searches.
I heard something about that but haven't found it in any Google searches.
Faux reality, as we see here, is void of historical common sense; it is not factuality shown supporting historical wisdoms expressed in two common truisms of good verse bad and or right verse wrong.
One in the Latin; Vae victis! (Woe to the conquered!).
Two, in the American colloquialism of similar common sense reality; “They see nothing wrong in the rule that to the victors belong the spoils of the enemy.”--- William L. Marcy (1786–1857)Speech in the United States Senate, January, 1832.
In truth, history has proven and will continue to prove, what is measured, as good or bad or right or wrong, in the end, in the present and near future, is stonily inscribed and inseparable in who and what, in outcome, become the victor and or the defeated.
What historical victor has paid its victims, as opposed to the opposite, besides the United States?
Can you imagine the cost to Europe to pay back to the days of Rome repratations for their conquering and colonization of much of the world?
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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd.
Bertrand Russell
Bertrand Russell
To be honest, the Palestinians are in a lose-lose situation, anybody
that meets the seal of approval of the US, is a traitor, and anyone who
is liked even slightly by the Israelis receives the kiss of death, so, the
leaders of the Palestinians will be chosen because of their unadaptability
to Israel and the US, who, in turn, will refuse to have any dialogue with
said leaders, and the cycle will repeat itself over and over again. The
Palestinians have no cards to play, they will always be the Arabs that
no one wants to have at their table, you have the GCC at one table,
and the Shi'ite crescent at another table, and Fatah and Hamas will
carry out a proxy war between the Saudis and Iran while the world
focusses on Baghdad and Teheran.
This well-educated leader of the very important U.N. has spoken....
that meets the seal of approval of the US, is a traitor, and anyone who
is liked even slightly by the Israelis receives the kiss of death, so, the
leaders of the Palestinians will be chosen because of their unadaptability
to Israel and the US, who, in turn, will refuse to have any dialogue with
said leaders, and the cycle will repeat itself over and over again. The
Palestinians have no cards to play, they will always be the Arabs that
no one wants to have at their table, you have the GCC at one table,
and the Shi'ite crescent at another table, and Fatah and Hamas will
carry out a proxy war between the Saudis and Iran while the world
focusses on Baghdad and Teheran.
This well-educated leader of the very important U.N. has spoken....
QUOTE (MrLeft @ Mar 5 2007, 10:29 PM)
It’s an imperialist state, occupying land they have no claim to aside from some worthless holy text.
Is it because they are Jewish that they have no claim? Why is their claim any different than the claims that Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Saudi or any other country that the Europeans created have? Personally I think ALL countries have a right to exist. I suspect you believe all countries except for Israel have a right to exist. Hmmmm? MARK
QUOTE (LooseCannon @ Mar 9 2007, 02:36 PM)
they will always be the Arabs that no one wants to have at their table,
Yes they have always been persecuted. Persecuted by Arabs long before Israel came to exist. But I guess it's ok for Arabs to sh!t on their own. Hell these sub human pigs have been doing that for centuries. Israel has treated the Palistinians better then they were ever treated by their Arab brethren.
QUOTE (Nomad @ Mar 13 2007, 09:53 PM)
Yes they have always been persecuted. Persecuted by Arabs long before Israel came to exist. But I guess it's ok for Arabs to sh!t on their own. Hell these sub human pigs have been doing that for centuries. Israel has treated the Palistinians better then they were ever treated by their Arab brethren.
And White People are the chosen ones; peaceful, free and righteous, correct?
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Mar 16 2007, 03:32 AM)
And White People are the chosen ones; peaceful, free and righteous, correct?
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The Cult of Schizophrenic Cynicism!
No matter how virulently cynical one becomes, it is always impossible to accept how more so cynically bitter one can become. Thus, as in totality, even partiality, in cynicism, is but a parent of the ill fated; for it fondles in danger the making of fools!
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No matter how virulently cynical one becomes, it is always impossible to accept how more so cynically bitter one can become. Thus, as in totality, even partiality, in cynicism, is but a parent of the ill fated; for it fondles in danger the making of fools!
QUOTE (ustrader @ Mar 15 2007, 05:56 PM)
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Don't be so hard on yourself!
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Mar 16 2007, 01:50 PM)
Don't be so hard on yourself!
Have no fear code pink, 
Have no fear code pink,
291. CEO and company (2/14/05)
HP ousted its CEO - Carly Fiorina on 2/9. It proved my previous thought.
In early 1990s, I started to suspect it was the house I bought which caused persecution on me. One thing puzzled me was how could they even shut down a company to prevent me from buying the house. How could owner of the company bear the loss to benefit Feds?
Something occurred in 1993 solved this puzzle for me. In May that year, newspaper reported that former owner of Disneyland - Walter Disney was an informant of FBI. I thus knew that Feds ruled country through their informants, especially by the management of company.
About same time there was a campaign between two high ranking executives. They competed for the post of CEO of Disneyland. The struggle ended with one candidate died in a helicopter accident. So another puzzle came into my mind. Either candidate would have
been cooperative with Feds to be its informant, why Feds still choose the CEO by violence?
I finally had a conclusion. Feds now is not satisfied with informants. They need a CEO of their own. That someone represents for the interest of Feds rather than for the interest of company he works for. For example, Walther Disney might refuse to shut down Disneyland for the interest of FBI because that was his blood and sweat. But a CEO of Feds will do. (see "29. "I am you, American."")
In late 2001, HP CEO Fiorina announced acquisition of Compaq. Which was opposed by HP heir Hewllet. I thought it was a typical sample of how a CEO not work for the interest of the company she was employed. I wrote an article, pointed out Hewllet's opinion was for the interest of HP. Fiorina's was not. The recent development proved my theory about CEO. (see "57. FBI's interest" I wrote in 2002.)
Three years later Fiorina is ousted from HP. Her decision to merge with Compaq played key role in her bad performance. I am an outsider of high tech. business. But even I knew it was a bad deal. How Fiorina in a position with much more information couldn't see the danger and took over a hot potato? What she did might have saved the Compaq from bankruptcy. She might have saved profit of some firms which held a large quantity of Compaq stock. She probably saved the stock market from another shocking downturn. Stock market was gasping in 2001 from the outbreak of dot.com bubble. It couldn't bear another news of bankruptcy of a big firm. What she did, was at the cost of HP's interest.
As what I have said if CEO made a damage, he has little to lose. Fiorina left with a fat pocket. She got 21.4 million of severance pay and a compensation of 8.15 million for 2004. It looks like she did something good and left with a reward. She might get another high ranking job.
HP ousted its CEO - Carly Fiorina on 2/9. It proved my previous thought.
In early 1990s, I started to suspect it was the house I bought which caused persecution on me. One thing puzzled me was how could they even shut down a company to prevent me from buying the house. How could owner of the company bear the loss to benefit Feds?
Something occurred in 1993 solved this puzzle for me. In May that year, newspaper reported that former owner of Disneyland - Walter Disney was an informant of FBI. I thus knew that Feds ruled country through their informants, especially by the management of company.
About same time there was a campaign between two high ranking executives. They competed for the post of CEO of Disneyland. The struggle ended with one candidate died in a helicopter accident. So another puzzle came into my mind. Either candidate would have
been cooperative with Feds to be its informant, why Feds still choose the CEO by violence?
I finally had a conclusion. Feds now is not satisfied with informants. They need a CEO of their own. That someone represents for the interest of Feds rather than for the interest of company he works for. For example, Walther Disney might refuse to shut down Disneyland for the interest of FBI because that was his blood and sweat. But a CEO of Feds will do. (see "29. "I am you, American."")
In late 2001, HP CEO Fiorina announced acquisition of Compaq. Which was opposed by HP heir Hewllet. I thought it was a typical sample of how a CEO not work for the interest of the company she was employed. I wrote an article, pointed out Hewllet's opinion was for the interest of HP. Fiorina's was not. The recent development proved my theory about CEO. (see "57. FBI's interest" I wrote in 2002.)
Three years later Fiorina is ousted from HP. Her decision to merge with Compaq played key role in her bad performance. I am an outsider of high tech. business. But even I knew it was a bad deal. How Fiorina in a position with much more information couldn't see the danger and took over a hot potato? What she did might have saved the Compaq from bankruptcy. She might have saved profit of some firms which held a large quantity of Compaq stock. She probably saved the stock market from another shocking downturn. Stock market was gasping in 2001 from the outbreak of dot.com bubble. It couldn't bear another news of bankruptcy of a big firm. What she did, was at the cost of HP's interest.
As what I have said if CEO made a damage, he has little to lose. Fiorina left with a fat pocket. She got 21.4 million of severance pay and a compensation of 8.15 million for 2004. It looks like she did something good and left with a reward. She might get another high ranking job.
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Mar 15 2007, 01:32 PM)
And White People are the chosen ones; peaceful, free and righteous, correct?
Very weak reply Ivy. Nomads point, though incredibily crude, does not alter the fact that he is historically correct. The question would be.. Why is it incumbant upon the Israelis to provide land and comfort to the pariahs of the Muslim world when the Muslims themselves have perpetuated the Palistinian problem for centuries.
292. From Disneyland, HP, to US. (2/19/05)
Disneyland had invested in Michael Moor's documentary film Farhenheit 911. But it refused to distribute the film after it was done. The decision of high ranking was political motivated. As Farhenheit 911 is a business successful film. It got the top prize in Cannes film Festival.
If you view US as a company and president as a CEO, you can find it is operated by inside group in same way they did to a business company.
What has Bush achieved in his first term? Patriot Act was passed and mid-east war activated. The suffering of Americans is apparent. Civil rights are seriously eroded. Lives and money are losing in war. US reputation in the world goes down. Bush hurt the interest of American people to benefit a little group and Israel. Former Prime Minister of Malaysia said that Israel rules world through its proxy, it let others fight and die for them. (The original word Marhatir used was Jews, I don't think it is proper here so replaced it with Israel) Bush is a proxy not work for the interest of US. He let Americans fight and die for the interest of Israel. He was rewarded for a second term.
What will Bush do in another four years? Likely more wars in mid-east to secure Israel. (Syria and Iran) And another important mission for him is to steal from the retirement savings from America people - their social security fund.
Bush's plan to privatize s.s. fund mainly will benefit financial group. And another purpose is to support the stock market from collapsing.
Because Feds held a large quantity of real estate properties, they keep interest rate at unreasonable low level since 2001 to maintain a prosperous housing market. The low interest rate produced two big bubbles in housing market and stock market. these two markets are also the cash boxes for Feds where they withdraw money for their spending.
When the economic situation won't allow interest rate staying in low level any more and turn up to go upward, the two bubbles are going to break up. It's hard to keep the house price to be higher when interest rate rises. So the only choice for them is to save the stock market which is controlled by big financial group.
What Bush going to do is to drive small fish into a slaughter market to lure the big fish from leaving. To keep a cash box of Feds to be active while the other one (housing market) will go low in recent future. As I have said, a CEO in US doesn't work for the interest of company he was employed. Bush works for the interest of inside group which selected him to be a president of US.
Disneyland had invested in Michael Moor's documentary film Farhenheit 911. But it refused to distribute the film after it was done. The decision of high ranking was political motivated. As Farhenheit 911 is a business successful film. It got the top prize in Cannes film Festival.
If you view US as a company and president as a CEO, you can find it is operated by inside group in same way they did to a business company.
What has Bush achieved in his first term? Patriot Act was passed and mid-east war activated. The suffering of Americans is apparent. Civil rights are seriously eroded. Lives and money are losing in war. US reputation in the world goes down. Bush hurt the interest of American people to benefit a little group and Israel. Former Prime Minister of Malaysia said that Israel rules world through its proxy, it let others fight and die for them. (The original word Marhatir used was Jews, I don't think it is proper here so replaced it with Israel) Bush is a proxy not work for the interest of US. He let Americans fight and die for the interest of Israel. He was rewarded for a second term.
What will Bush do in another four years? Likely more wars in mid-east to secure Israel. (Syria and Iran) And another important mission for him is to steal from the retirement savings from America people - their social security fund.
Bush's plan to privatize s.s. fund mainly will benefit financial group. And another purpose is to support the stock market from collapsing.
Because Feds held a large quantity of real estate properties, they keep interest rate at unreasonable low level since 2001 to maintain a prosperous housing market. The low interest rate produced two big bubbles in housing market and stock market. these two markets are also the cash boxes for Feds where they withdraw money for their spending.
When the economic situation won't allow interest rate staying in low level any more and turn up to go upward, the two bubbles are going to break up. It's hard to keep the house price to be higher when interest rate rises. So the only choice for them is to save the stock market which is controlled by big financial group.
What Bush going to do is to drive small fish into a slaughter market to lure the big fish from leaving. To keep a cash box of Feds to be active while the other one (housing market) will go low in recent future. As I have said, a CEO in US doesn't work for the interest of company he was employed. Bush works for the interest of inside group which selected him to be a president of US.
QUOTE (Nomad @ Mar 13 2007, 09:53 PM)
Yes they have always been persecuted. Persecuted by Arabs long before Israel came to exist. But I guess it's ok for Arabs to sh!t on their own. Hell these sub human pigs have been doing that for centuries. Israel has treated the Palistinians better then they were ever treated by their Arab brethren.
In 1995 I opened a casino in Tel Aviv for 4 Isreali's and I learned quite a few things.1) The Isreali Sabra females are the most alluring and beautifull women I have ever seen.(But unless your a millionare don't even try talking to them)2)take away the dress and there is no difference between a Palestinian and an Isreali.3)Casinos are still illegal in Israel and I spent a nice 5 days banged up in a low detention security unit before getting kicked out the country.My point? as usual it is all down to RELIGION.The average Isreali is concerned with making a living and shock horror so is the Palestinian.They get on and all they want is to live their lifes.So I recommend that we kill all the Rabbis,then kill all the Immams,and then kill all the politicians.(Maybe start with the politicians first!)
QUOTE (vonpieles @ Mar 30 2007, 08:14 AM)
In 1995 I opened a casino in Tel Aviv for 4 Isreali's and I learned quite a few things.1) The Isreali Sabra females are the most alluring and beautifull women I have ever seen.(But unless your a millionare don't even try talking to them)2)take away the dress and there is no difference between a Palestinian and an Isreali.3)Casinos are still illegal in Israel and I spent a nice 5 days banged up in a low detention security unit before getting kicked out the country.My point? as usual it is all down to RELIGION.The average Isreali is concerned with making a living and shock horror so is the Palestinian.They get on and all they want is to live their lifes.
So I recommend that we kill all the Rabbis,then kill all the Immams,and then kill all the politicians.(Maybe start with the politicians first!)
So, in reality, noting your focus on religion whose, I am uncertain of, yet, you recommend that more of the same evoltionary degeneration of the last 59 years of kill to kill, be maintained, in that ever present cultural mantra of the M.E. blood lusting status quo, killing for shake of killing, eh?
More likely it was and is, a cultural dementia, bred into the breed, that would NOT see a door opened for a better tomorrow, if it was slammed in its face...
Wake up from that comma your in, lass, once you kill all you say need killing, they will be replaced with as empty headed, blood lusting killers as you have now running all over the M.E. I suspect after nearly 60 years of nothing but death and barberism only the 4 horsemen have the only real solution to the M.E lust for blood.
I am certain the whiny, "it will be okay if we leave" types will have us gone soon from that region. I hope they wisely retreat massively from Europe and Asia as well.
Then like that flood of raw sewage washing thru Gaza drowning yet other victims of this insanity, the next wave will be the sewage of barbarity flooding the lands of M.E. with blood from one end to the other like now but in quantum leaps more deadly and bloody instead.
Good, luck, if you have family there I would get them out for if one thinks the barbarism and killing is bad now, wait, you have not seen anything remotely like what is to come once our retreaters raise the French National Flag of Surrender...
I am, be it to happen or not, mentally, physical, materially and financially, ready for $18 a gallon gas prices, fuel rationing, food shortages, electricity rationing, massive unemployment followed by a world of massive chaos, are you?
So I recommend that we kill all the Rabbis,then kill all the Immams,and then kill all the politicians.(Maybe start with the politicians first!)
So, in reality, noting your focus on religion whose, I am uncertain of, yet, you recommend that more of the same evoltionary degeneration of the last 59 years of kill to kill, be maintained, in that ever present cultural mantra of the M.E. blood lusting status quo, killing for shake of killing, eh?
More likely it was and is, a cultural dementia, bred into the breed, that would NOT see a door opened for a better tomorrow, if it was slammed in its face...
Wake up from that comma your in, lass, once you kill all you say need killing, they will be replaced with as empty headed, blood lusting killers as you have now running all over the M.E. I suspect after nearly 60 years of nothing but death and barberism only the 4 horsemen have the only real solution to the M.E lust for blood.
I am certain the whiny, "it will be okay if we leave" types will have us gone soon from that region. I hope they wisely retreat massively from Europe and Asia as well.
Then like that flood of raw sewage washing thru Gaza drowning yet other victims of this insanity, the next wave will be the sewage of barbarity flooding the lands of M.E. with blood from one end to the other like now but in quantum leaps more deadly and bloody instead.
Good, luck, if you have family there I would get them out for if one thinks the barbarism and killing is bad now, wait, you have not seen anything remotely like what is to come once our retreaters raise the French National Flag of Surrender...
I am, be it to happen or not, mentally, physical, materially and financially, ready for $18 a gallon gas prices, fuel rationing, food shortages, electricity rationing, massive unemployment followed by a world of massive chaos, are you?
295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)
Former President Kennedy was assassinated. Former President Clinton was impeached. All these revealed that even in top position, US politicians are under the control of intelligence. They were under the surveillance. They were extorted, blackmailed by intelligence. If they disobeyed, then they were punished by scandal, or even been assassinated.
Former President Nixon was almost impeached. He lost his post in oval office in early 70's. The formal reason was he lied to cover up a tape which might reveal his awareness of illegal campaign activity. But lie and dirty campaign activity were common among high ranking politicians. It was only an excuse. Then what was the real purpose?
In March 2002, a news helped me resolved several puzzles. It was a tape of Nixon's conversation with former treasury secretary Connally. Re:
Quote, "Nixon Defended Envoy's Groping
1972 Tapes Also Reveal Talk of a Justice Dept. 'Full of Jews'
By George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 1, 2002; Page A02
"Oh! Oh, God!" Nixon said with a sigh. "It erodes our confidence, our strength. They're untrustworthy. . . . Look at the Justice Department, it's full of Jews."
"Any place of power," Connally agreed. "SEC used to be -- all of them, those lawyers."
"Listen, the lawyers in government are ###### Jews," Nixon said.
Both men agreed that Nixon should try to reduce the Jewish influence in a second term. Nixon told Connally on May 15 that he wanted no more than 2 percent of the government's political appointees to be Jewish, in proportion to the population. He later said 10 percent would be acceptable, "but certainly not 30 or 40 percent."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2002Feb28.html
I then knew who control Justice department and why Nixon lost his job.
Nixon realized that there was a disproportion of government political appointees to the population. He thought it was not for the interest of US and tried to change that situation. He faced an impeach and had to resign before he could do it.
Now I know why Sharon said, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to Shimon Peres, October 8th, 2001
Israel controls D.O.J.. D.O.J. controls FBI. And FBI keep Americans under surveillance, include Presidents.
Former President Kennedy was assassinated. Former President Clinton was impeached. All these revealed that even in top position, US politicians are under the control of intelligence. They were under the surveillance. They were extorted, blackmailed by intelligence. If they disobeyed, then they were punished by scandal, or even been assassinated.
Former President Nixon was almost impeached. He lost his post in oval office in early 70's. The formal reason was he lied to cover up a tape which might reveal his awareness of illegal campaign activity. But lie and dirty campaign activity were common among high ranking politicians. It was only an excuse. Then what was the real purpose?
In March 2002, a news helped me resolved several puzzles. It was a tape of Nixon's conversation with former treasury secretary Connally. Re:
Quote, "Nixon Defended Envoy's Groping
1972 Tapes Also Reveal Talk of a Justice Dept. 'Full of Jews'
By George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 1, 2002; Page A02
"Oh! Oh, God!" Nixon said with a sigh. "It erodes our confidence, our strength. They're untrustworthy. . . . Look at the Justice Department, it's full of Jews."
"Any place of power," Connally agreed. "SEC used to be -- all of them, those lawyers."
"Listen, the lawyers in government are ###### Jews," Nixon said.
Both men agreed that Nixon should try to reduce the Jewish influence in a second term. Nixon told Connally on May 15 that he wanted no more than 2 percent of the government's political appointees to be Jewish, in proportion to the population. He later said 10 percent would be acceptable, "but certainly not 30 or 40 percent."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2002Feb28.html
I then knew who control Justice department and why Nixon lost his job.
Nixon realized that there was a disproportion of government political appointees to the population. He thought it was not for the interest of US and tried to change that situation. He faced an impeach and had to resign before he could do it.
Now I know why Sharon said, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to Shimon Peres, October 8th, 2001
Israel controls D.O.J.. D.O.J. controls FBI. And FBI keep Americans under surveillance, include Presidents.
QUOTE (kathaksung @ Apr 5 2007, 07:01 AM)
Former President Kennedy was assassinated. Former President Clinton was impeached. All these revealed that even in top position, US politicians are under the control of intelligence. They were under the surveillance. They were extorted, blackmailed by intelligence. If they disobeyed, then they were punished by scandal, or even been assassinated.
Former President Nixon was almost impeached. He lost his post in oval office in early 70's. The formal reason was he lied to cover up a tape which might reveal his awareness of illegal campaign activity. But lie and dirty campaign activity were common among high ranking politicians. It was only an excuse. Then what was the real purpose?
In March 2002, a news helped me resolved several puzzles. It was a tape of Nixon's conversation with former treasury secretary Connally. Re:
Quote, "Nixon Defended Envoy's Groping
1972 Tapes Also Reveal Talk of a Justice Dept. 'Full of Jews'
By George Lardner Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 1, 2002; Page A02
"Oh! Oh, God!" Nixon said with a sigh. "It erodes our confidence, our strength. They're untrustworthy. . . . Look at the Justice Department, it's full of Jews."
"Any place of power," Connally agreed. "SEC used to be -- all of them, those lawyers."
"Listen, the lawyers in government are ###### Jews," Nixon said.
Both men agreed that Nixon should try to reduce the Jewish influence in a second term. Nixon told Connally on May 15 that he wanted no more than 2 percent of the government's political appointees to be Jewish, in proportion to the population. He later said 10 percent would be acceptable, "but certainly not 30 or 40 percent."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2002Feb28.html
I then knew who control Justice department and why Nixon lost his job.
Nixon realized that there was a disproportion of government political appointees to the population. He thought it was not for the interest of US and tried to change that situation. He faced an impeach and had to resign before he could do it.
Now I know why Sharon said, "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to Shimon Peres, October 8th, 2001
Israel controls D.O.J.. D.O.J. controls FBI. And FBI keep Americans under surveillance, include Presidents.
The Religion of Peace Spreads More Love and Good-Will Among All Peoples: No. 1 in a 2-Article Series"
Zionists, Zionists You will pay!
The Wrath of Allah is on its way!
Israeli Zionists You shall pay!
The Wrath of Allah is on its way!
The mushroom cloud is on its way!
The real Holocaust is on its way!
We are not your average Muslims,
We are the Muslims of Was al Sunnah
We will not accept the United Nations, they are the criminals themselves
They get paid by the Israeli and the US government to do their job.
We don’t recognize United NaFRtions as a body
We only recognize Allah
Israel won’t last long…
Indeed, Allah will repeat the Holocaust right on the soil of Israel
Takbeer!
Response: Allahu Akbar!
* * *
No wonder they call you sons of apes and pigs,
because that’s what you are.
* * *
Islam will dominate the world
Islam is the only solution
Islam will dominate the world
Islam is the only solution
Takbeer!
297. Graham and Disney (3/17/05)
The news about Walter Disney in May, 1993 came with the publish of book "Walter Disney, Hollywood's dark prince". In which W. Disney was described negatively. That he was an abused boy; he drank heavily; he persecuted his employees; he was anti-semitic, anti-union, anti-communism. Most disturbing thing was that he was a FBI informant which W. Disney's family strongly denied.
Walter Disney is a beloved American icon. Every person has a nice memory of a childhood with Micky mouse and Snow White. Why he was so much humiliated?
The author of the book said his information obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. It was an excuse. There are many celebrities who are FBI informants. Why they are protected from being exposed by the Freedom of Information Act but W. Disney?
Nobody knew this (informant) except FBI and Disney himself. W. Disney wouldn't have done it even if he is alive. So the other possibility is it was leaked by FBI. Nobody can let the news published except FBI because it controls everything in US. They could deny it in the name of security. To reveal the identity of informant, even the informant had passed away, is against principle of intelligence. Then what made FBI betray its own principle? I puzzled.
The puzzle was resolved 9 years later by the news of Nixon's tape, It started :
Quote, "Saturday, 2 March, 2002, 03:05 GMT
Graham regrets Jewish slur
The Reverend Billy Graham has apologized for a taped conversation with former President Nixon in which he said the Jewish "stranglehold" of the media was ruining the United States and must be broken."
(see "295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)")
Graham is a celebrity. Then I recalled W. Disney. He was a celebrity too. According to the news he was anti-semitic; anti-union; anti-communism. Which is the power that can humiliate him?
No wonder Sharon said, " We, the Jewish people, control America." It can force US celebrity apologizing to them. What about people passed away? They were humiliated.
It was not a coincidence that the negative news about Disney was released in 1993. At same period, a man became the CEO of Disneyland when his rival died in a helicopter accident. News said new CEO is a Jewish. Thirty years after Walter Disney's passing away, he was not only humiliated, his kingdom was also taken over by someone he disliked. It was a power show-off.
The news about Walter Disney in May, 1993 came with the publish of book "Walter Disney, Hollywood's dark prince". In which W. Disney was described negatively. That he was an abused boy; he drank heavily; he persecuted his employees; he was anti-semitic, anti-union, anti-communism. Most disturbing thing was that he was a FBI informant which W. Disney's family strongly denied.
Walter Disney is a beloved American icon. Every person has a nice memory of a childhood with Micky mouse and Snow White. Why he was so much humiliated?
The author of the book said his information obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. It was an excuse. There are many celebrities who are FBI informants. Why they are protected from being exposed by the Freedom of Information Act but W. Disney?
Nobody knew this (informant) except FBI and Disney himself. W. Disney wouldn't have done it even if he is alive. So the other possibility is it was leaked by FBI. Nobody can let the news published except FBI because it controls everything in US. They could deny it in the name of security. To reveal the identity of informant, even the informant had passed away, is against principle of intelligence. Then what made FBI betray its own principle? I puzzled.
The puzzle was resolved 9 years later by the news of Nixon's tape, It started :
Quote, "Saturday, 2 March, 2002, 03:05 GMT
Graham regrets Jewish slur
The Reverend Billy Graham has apologized for a taped conversation with former President Nixon in which he said the Jewish "stranglehold" of the media was ruining the United States and must be broken."
(see "295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)")
Graham is a celebrity. Then I recalled W. Disney. He was a celebrity too. According to the news he was anti-semitic; anti-union; anti-communism. Which is the power that can humiliate him?
No wonder Sharon said, " We, the Jewish people, control America." It can force US celebrity apologizing to them. What about people passed away? They were humiliated.
It was not a coincidence that the negative news about Disney was released in 1993. At same period, a man became the CEO of Disneyland when his rival died in a helicopter accident. News said new CEO is a Jewish. Thirty years after Walter Disney's passing away, he was not only humiliated, his kingdom was also taken over by someone he disliked. It was a power show-off.
You're crazy,kathaksung, as well as an unlikeable, prejudiced person. I feel sorry for you, sir or madam.
You're rather stupid as well. BTW, I have a bridge in New York I'd like to sell.........
You're rather stupid as well. BTW, I have a bridge in New York I'd like to sell.........
QUOTE (kathaksung @ Apr 17 2007, 05:53 AM)
297. Graham and Disney (3/17/05)
The news about Walter Disney in May, 1993 came with the publish of book "Walter Disney, Hollywood's dark prince". In which W. Disney was described negatively. That he was an abused boy; he drank heavily; he persecuted his employees; he was anti-semitic, anti-union, anti-communism. Most disturbing thing was that he was a FBI informant which W. Disney's family strongly denied.
Walter Disney is a beloved American icon. Every person has a nice memory of a childhood with Micky mouse and Snow White. Why he was so much humiliated?
The author of the book said his information obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. It was an excuse. There are many celebrities who are FBI informants. Why they are protected from being exposed by the Freedom of Information Act but W. Disney?
Nobody knew this (informant) except FBI and Disney himself. W. Disney wouldn't have done it even if he is alive. So the other possibility is it was leaked by FBI. Nobody can let the news published except FBI because it controls everything in US. They could deny it in the name of security. To reveal the identity of informant, even the informant had passed away, is against principle of intelligence. Then what made FBI betray its own principle? I puzzled.
The puzzle was resolved 9 years later by the news of Nixon's tape, It started :
Quote, "Saturday, 2 March, 2002, 03:05 GMT
Graham regrets Jewish slur
The Reverend Billy Graham has apologized for a taped conversation with former President Nixon in which he said the Jewish "stranglehold" of the media was ruining the United States and must be broken."
(see "295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)")
Graham is a celebrity. Then I recalled W. Disney. He was a celebrity too. According to the news he was anti-semitic; anti-union; anti-communism. Which is the power that can humiliate him?
No wonder Sharon said, " We, the Jewish people, control America." It can force US celebrity apologizing to them. What about people passed away? They were humiliated.
It was not a coincidence that the negative news about Disney was released in 1993. At same period, a man became the CEO of Disneyland when his rival died in a helicopter accident. News said new CEO is a Jewish. Thirty years after Walter Disney's passing away, he was not only humiliated, his kingdom was also taken over by someone he disliked. It was a power show-off.
The news about Walter Disney in May, 1993 came with the publish of book "Walter Disney, Hollywood's dark prince". In which W. Disney was described negatively. That he was an abused boy; he drank heavily; he persecuted his employees; he was anti-semitic, anti-union, anti-communism. Most disturbing thing was that he was a FBI informant which W. Disney's family strongly denied.
Walter Disney is a beloved American icon. Every person has a nice memory of a childhood with Micky mouse and Snow White. Why he was so much humiliated?
The author of the book said his information obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. It was an excuse. There are many celebrities who are FBI informants. Why they are protected from being exposed by the Freedom of Information Act but W. Disney?
Nobody knew this (informant) except FBI and Disney himself. W. Disney wouldn't have done it even if he is alive. So the other possibility is it was leaked by FBI. Nobody can let the news published except FBI because it controls everything in US. They could deny it in the name of security. To reveal the identity of informant, even the informant had passed away, is against principle of intelligence. Then what made FBI betray its own principle? I puzzled.
The puzzle was resolved 9 years later by the news of Nixon's tape, It started :
Quote, "Saturday, 2 March, 2002, 03:05 GMT
Graham regrets Jewish slur
The Reverend Billy Graham has apologized for a taped conversation with former President Nixon in which he said the Jewish "stranglehold" of the media was ruining the United States and must be broken."
(see "295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)")
Graham is a celebrity. Then I recalled W. Disney. He was a celebrity too. According to the news he was anti-semitic; anti-union; anti-communism. Which is the power that can humiliate him?
No wonder Sharon said, " We, the Jewish people, control America." It can force US celebrity apologizing to them. What about people passed away? They were humiliated.
It was not a coincidence that the negative news about Disney was released in 1993. At same period, a man became the CEO of Disneyland when his rival died in a helicopter accident. News said new CEO is a Jewish. Thirty years after Walter Disney's passing away, he was not only humiliated, his kingdom was also taken over by someone he disliked. It was a power show-off.
LIES, ALL LIES!!, everybody knows it was Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse who were the real FBI informants, racist nazi wearmongers at Disney land!
What hick city in the USA did you groop up in childreeens? My god childreeens, get a grip! Everybody be knowin Rosie O'Donald is the real Mel Gibson who is Anti-Semitic. You needs a education real bad there my little childreens, real bad...indeed!!!
QUOTE (kathaksung @ Mar 16 2007, 05:35 PM)
291. CEO and company (2/14/05)
HP ousted its CEO - Carly Fiorina on 2/9. It proved my previous thought.
In early 1990s, I started to suspect it was the house I bought which caused persecution on me. One thing puzzled me was how could they even shut down a company to prevent me from buying the house. How could owner of the company bear the loss to benefit Feds?
Something occurred in 1993 solved this puzzle for me. In May that year, newspaper reported that former owner of Disneyland - Walter Disney was an informant of FBI. I thus knew that Feds ruled country through their informants, especially by the management of company.
About same time there was a campaign between two high ranking executives. They competed for the post of CEO of Disneyland. The struggle ended with one candidate died in a helicopter accident. So another puzzle came into my mind. Either candidate would have
been cooperative with Feds to be its informant, why Feds still choose the CEO by violence?
I finally had a conclusion. Feds now is not satisfied with informants. They need a CEO of their own. That someone represents for the interest of Feds rather than for the interest of company he works for. For example, Walther Disney might refuse to shut down Disneyland for the interest of FBI because that was his blood and sweat. But a CEO of Feds will do. (see "29. "I am you, American."")
In late 2001, HP CEO Fiorina announced acquisition of Compaq. Which was opposed by HP heir Hewllet. I thought it was a typical sample of how a CEO not work for the interest of the company she was employed. I wrote an article, pointed out Hewllet's opinion was for the interest of HP. Fiorina's was not. The recent development proved my theory about CEO. (see "57. FBI's interest" I wrote in 2002.)
Three years later Fiorina is ousted from HP. Her decision to merge with Compaq played key role in her bad performance. I am an outsider of high tech. business. But even I knew it was a bad deal. How Fiorina in a position with much more information couldn't see the danger and took over a hot potato? What she did might have saved the Compaq from bankruptcy. She might have saved profit of some firms which held a large quantity of Compaq stock. She probably saved the stock market from another shocking downturn. Stock market was gasping in 2001 from the outbreak of dot.com bubble. It couldn't bear another news of bankruptcy of a big firm. What she did, was at the cost of HP's interest.
As what I have said if CEO made a damage, he has little to lose. Fiorina left with a fat pocket. She got 21.4 million of severance pay and a compensation of 8.15 million for 2004. It looks like she did something good and left with a reward. She might get another high ranking job.
HP ousted its CEO - Carly Fiorina on 2/9. It proved my previous thought.
In early 1990s, I started to suspect it was the house I bought which caused persecution on me. One thing puzzled me was how could they even shut down a company to prevent me from buying the house. How could owner of the company bear the loss to benefit Feds?
Something occurred in 1993 solved this puzzle for me. In May that year, newspaper reported that former owner of Disneyland - Walter Disney was an informant of FBI. I thus knew that Feds ruled country through their informants, especially by the management of company.
About same time there was a campaign between two high ranking executives. They competed for the post of CEO of Disneyland. The struggle ended with one candidate died in a helicopter accident. So another puzzle came into my mind. Either candidate would have
been cooperative with Feds to be its informant, why Feds still choose the CEO by violence?
I finally had a conclusion. Feds now is not satisfied with informants. They need a CEO of their own. That someone represents for the interest of Feds rather than for the interest of company he works for. For example, Walther Disney might refuse to shut down Disneyland for the interest of FBI because that was his blood and sweat. But a CEO of Feds will do. (see "29. "I am you, American."")
In late 2001, HP CEO Fiorina announced acquisition of Compaq. Which was opposed by HP heir Hewllet. I thought it was a typical sample of how a CEO not work for the interest of the company she was employed. I wrote an article, pointed out Hewllet's opinion was for the interest of HP. Fiorina's was not. The recent development proved my theory about CEO. (see "57. FBI's interest" I wrote in 2002.)
Three years later Fiorina is ousted from HP. Her decision to merge with Compaq played key role in her bad performance. I am an outsider of high tech. business. But even I knew it was a bad deal. How Fiorina in a position with much more information couldn't see the danger and took over a hot potato? What she did might have saved the Compaq from bankruptcy. She might have saved profit of some firms which held a large quantity of Compaq stock. She probably saved the stock market from another shocking downturn. Stock market was gasping in 2001 from the outbreak of dot.com bubble. It couldn't bear another news of bankruptcy of a big firm. What she did, was at the cost of HP's interest.
As what I have said if CEO made a damage, he has little to lose. Fiorina left with a fat pocket. She got 21.4 million of severance pay and a compensation of 8.15 million for 2004. It looks like she did something good and left with a reward. She might get another high ranking job.
######, the entire American foreign and domestic policy was formulated to screw you! May I have an interest free loan? All I want is a car, house, 3 motorcylces, and 160 acres in northern Missouri.
405. The turning point. (5/10/06)
In message #327." London bombing", I have pointed out in recent plots, Feds (DOJ, FBI, DEA) always planned terror attack to divert public attentions from the framed cases. All six warnings (April 2004, Mueller; June 2004, Mueller and Ashcroft; July 2004, Tom Ridge; August 2004, Tom Ridge; October 2004, FBI; January 2005, FBI) were about domestic terror.(except one was about HongKong.) First two were from the heads of DOJ and FBI. After I doubted how could DOJ take over the work of DHS to issue terror warnings, Tom Ridge temporarily gave two warnings. Then they let FBI do it in the name of plan and individual case.
Things change dramatically after February 2005. People might neglect one interesting phenomenon that they haven't been harassed by terror warning since then. The frequent orange code alarm disappeared for some time.
But I strongly feel the difference. I found the violence abroad replaced pre-terror warning. Now the events connected to the framed case were bombings in London. The air planes accidents in different countries. And the security alert was set by Interpol not FBI anymore. (see # 383. The cross murder deal (2/7/06))
FBI dominates domestic intelligence. How could it manipulate foreign events which belongs to CIA's domain? Does the DOJ expand its power? Yes, it does.
I noticed the turning point was in February 2005 when Bush nominated John Negroponte to be the Director of National Intelligence. After he is settled in, Negroponte aggressively took over many powers from the CIA.
Quote, "February 18, 2005
Axis Power, the United States, Chooses Israeli National to Head Secret Police, Forces Prepare For Further Global Conquest
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers
In the latest frightening internal move by the United States against the world, we have come to learn that President Bush has appointed the Israeli national John Negroponte to be the head of all 15 of the their intelligence organizations, and which includes the CIA.
Not known to many Americans is the fact that all Jewish citizens in the United States are also citizens of Israel. To such a strange circumstance this has brought to America we can even read in this newspaper article from the Los Angeles Times about how this effects even the United States, "Galvis was attempting a feat perhaps unprecedented in American politics: holding two elected offices simultaneously in two countries. He is, after all, a citizen of both places, with a pair of passports to prove it. <http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/citizen/multiple.htm>
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index683.htm
I have said, "Israel controls D.O.J.. D.O.J. controls FBI. And FBI keep Americans under surveillance, include the Presidents." (see "295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)") Now it is not only the FBI. It's the whole intelligence. The recent "Goss scandal" can be viewed as a step to take over CIA.
The pre warning of "terror attack" is replaced by violence abroad. (both will justify a coming terror attack in US as Al Qaida's work not a crime of insider's.) That's the result of a power expanding of DOJ. Although American people can be relaxed for a little while not being annoyed by terror alarm, the end will be the same: another terror attack will apply on US once the Feds successfully frames a case on me. (or to justify another war in Mid-east for the security of Israel)
In message #327." London bombing", I have pointed out in recent plots, Feds (DOJ, FBI, DEA) always planned terror attack to divert public attentions from the framed cases. All six warnings (April 2004, Mueller; June 2004, Mueller and Ashcroft; July 2004, Tom Ridge; August 2004, Tom Ridge; October 2004, FBI; January 2005, FBI) were about domestic terror.(except one was about HongKong.) First two were from the heads of DOJ and FBI. After I doubted how could DOJ take over the work of DHS to issue terror warnings, Tom Ridge temporarily gave two warnings. Then they let FBI do it in the name of plan and individual case.
Things change dramatically after February 2005. People might neglect one interesting phenomenon that they haven't been harassed by terror warning since then. The frequent orange code alarm disappeared for some time.
But I strongly feel the difference. I found the violence abroad replaced pre-terror warning. Now the events connected to the framed case were bombings in London. The air planes accidents in different countries. And the security alert was set by Interpol not FBI anymore. (see # 383. The cross murder deal (2/7/06))
FBI dominates domestic intelligence. How could it manipulate foreign events which belongs to CIA's domain? Does the DOJ expand its power? Yes, it does.
I noticed the turning point was in February 2005 when Bush nominated John Negroponte to be the Director of National Intelligence. After he is settled in, Negroponte aggressively took over many powers from the CIA.
Quote, "February 18, 2005
Axis Power, the United States, Chooses Israeli National to Head Secret Police, Forces Prepare For Further Global Conquest
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers
In the latest frightening internal move by the United States against the world, we have come to learn that President Bush has appointed the Israeli national John Negroponte to be the head of all 15 of the their intelligence organizations, and which includes the CIA.
Not known to many Americans is the fact that all Jewish citizens in the United States are also citizens of Israel. To such a strange circumstance this has brought to America we can even read in this newspaper article from the Los Angeles Times about how this effects even the United States, "Galvis was attempting a feat perhaps unprecedented in American politics: holding two elected offices simultaneously in two countries. He is, after all, a citizen of both places, with a pair of passports to prove it. <http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/citizen/multiple.htm>
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index683.htm
I have said, "Israel controls D.O.J.. D.O.J. controls FBI. And FBI keep Americans under surveillance, include the Presidents." (see "295. Who controls D.O.J.? (3/7/05)") Now it is not only the FBI. It's the whole intelligence. The recent "Goss scandal" can be viewed as a step to take over CIA.
The pre warning of "terror attack" is replaced by violence abroad. (both will justify a coming terror attack in US as Al Qaida's work not a crime of insider's.) That's the result of a power expanding of DOJ. Although American people can be relaxed for a little while not being annoyed by terror alarm, the end will be the same: another terror attack will apply on US once the Feds successfully frames a case on me. (or to justify another war in Mid-east for the security of Israel)
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Apr 17 2007, 01:52 AM)
You're crazy,kathaksung, as well as an unlikeable, prejudiced person. I feel sorry for you, sir or madam.
You're rather stupid as well.
You're rather stupid as well.
A warped, Nazi, piece of sh*t!
QUOTE (Georgie-Porgie @ Apr 29 2007, 07:27 PM)
A warped, Nazi, piece of sh*t!
OMG! You actually posted here. ??
406. Take over CIA (5/15/06)
Eight months ago, DOJ has activated a battle to take over the Supreme Court. They successfully sent two of their agents, John Roberts and Samuel Aliot, to the seats of Supreme Court Justice.
Now they are targeting CIA. FBI searched CIA No. 3 leader Foggo's home and office on 5/12. CIA Chief Porter Goss resigned in advance. The leader of CIA dropped in the trap set up by FBI.
Quote, "CIA boss Goss is cooked
Tied to contractor's poker parties -hints of bribes & women
BY RICHARD SISK and JAMES GORDON MEEK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
WASHINGTON - CIA Director Porter Goss abruptly resigned yesterday amid allegations that he and a top aide may have attended Watergate poker parties where bribes and prostitutes were provided to a corrupt congressman.
Intelligence and law enforcement sources said solid evidence had yet to emerge that Goss also went to the parties, but Goss and Foggo share a fondness for poker and expensive cigars, and the FBI investigation was continuing.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/415304p-350961c.html
Scandal is always a weapon FBI used to blackmail, to hit its target. They set up traps with its informants or undercover agents. (see "373. Extortion by scandal (1/12/06) 374. A covert totalitarian (1/12/06)")
Former President Nixon resigned from Watergate scandal. The "deep throat", concealed 30 years, now is revealed a FBI agent. Clinton and former Congressman Gary Condit were both hit hard by scandal of personal affair. The interns involved in the case, Lewinsky and Chandra Levy, were both from Jewish family. We know Israel tried to influence on US politicians through their aids. The recent Supreme Court nominations was fulfilled by the attack on GOP leader Frist (in Senate) and Tom Delay (in Congress) and on other GOP lawmakers by Abramoff scandal. Abramoff, I think, is an undercover agent who used to corrupt the law makers so these politicians could be extorted.
Why do I think so? Because Abramoff acted like a financial distributor. He not only offered financial aid to political campaign, he also offered financial aid to 911 hijackers. 3 or 4 hijackers (include Atta) visited casino ship SunCruze before the attack. Abramoff ran that casino company. And those 911 hijackers, at least some of them, were undercover former FBI agents and FBI informants. (see "403. Beware a global "terror" attack (4/30/06)")
In US, when a scandal happened, there used to be a purpose. So when Porter Goss resigns to a scandal, we know this time the purpose of DOJ is to take over CIA.
Eight months ago, DOJ has activated a battle to take over the Supreme Court. They successfully sent two of their agents, John Roberts and Samuel Aliot, to the seats of Supreme Court Justice.
Now they are targeting CIA. FBI searched CIA No. 3 leader Foggo's home and office on 5/12. CIA Chief Porter Goss resigned in advance. The leader of CIA dropped in the trap set up by FBI.
Quote, "CIA boss Goss is cooked
Tied to contractor's poker parties -hints of bribes & women
BY RICHARD SISK and JAMES GORDON MEEK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
WASHINGTON - CIA Director Porter Goss abruptly resigned yesterday amid allegations that he and a top aide may have attended Watergate poker parties where bribes and prostitutes were provided to a corrupt congressman.
Intelligence and law enforcement sources said solid evidence had yet to emerge that Goss also went to the parties, but Goss and Foggo share a fondness for poker and expensive cigars, and the FBI investigation was continuing.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/415304p-350961c.html
Scandal is always a weapon FBI used to blackmail, to hit its target. They set up traps with its informants or undercover agents. (see "373. Extortion by scandal (1/12/06) 374. A covert totalitarian (1/12/06)")
Former President Nixon resigned from Watergate scandal. The "deep throat", concealed 30 years, now is revealed a FBI agent. Clinton and former Congressman Gary Condit were both hit hard by scandal of personal affair. The interns involved in the case, Lewinsky and Chandra Levy, were both from Jewish family. We know Israel tried to influence on US politicians through their aids. The recent Supreme Court nominations was fulfilled by the attack on GOP leader Frist (in Senate) and Tom Delay (in Congress) and on other GOP lawmakers by Abramoff scandal. Abramoff, I think, is an undercover agent who used to corrupt the law makers so these politicians could be extorted.
Why do I think so? Because Abramoff acted like a financial distributor. He not only offered financial aid to political campaign, he also offered financial aid to 911 hijackers. 3 or 4 hijackers (include Atta) visited casino ship SunCruze before the attack. Abramoff ran that casino company. And those 911 hijackers, at least some of them, were undercover former FBI agents and FBI informants. (see "403. Beware a global "terror" attack (4/30/06)")
In US, when a scandal happened, there used to be a purpose. So when Porter Goss resigns to a scandal, we know this time the purpose of DOJ is to take over CIA.
407. Take over DOD (5/20/06)
People think the Iraq war was promoted by a group whose name is "Neocon". Among them are: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Perle and other hawks. But I think it's not a group but two. Cheney and Rumsfeld are GOP conservatives who work for the interest of military industry. They control DOD. The others belong to a Zionist group who are loyal to their motherland - Israel. They control DOJ. Although one group eyes on the oil in Iraq and the other one values the security of Israel, Iraq war would fit their demand both. In common interest, they walked together. We saw Bush was authorized the war power in October 2002 by both Parties. The bill was passed through under the pressure of a DC sniper shooting spree which I think was done by DOJ.
Though the Iraq is occupied, the power struggle between the two groups never stops. The latest one is the battle for the CIA. The other one is the battle for the DOD which lasts for more than two years.
In early May 2004, a bunch of torture pictures were revealed to the world. That was Abu Ghurayb abusing. US army was humiliated. Rumsfeld was under attack. But he refused to resign. As I have said, there was always a purpose behind a scandal. This one was an attempt to take over DOD.
Sometime later, in a quiet transference, former Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz went for another job in World Bank. He likely would have been Secretary of Denfense if Rumsfeld had resigned. GOP Conservative realized he was a threat to Rumsfeld after Abu Ghurayb scandal and made a transference.
The Abu Ghurayb torture pictures should be another work of the Feds. They infiltrated into the prison guard system and organized this revelation. Or they have been there already as intelligence officers. The event which led me to think the Abu Ghurayb scandal was a DOJ"s plot was another event: Nick Berg's beheading tape.
Berg's beheading tape was released on May 11, less then a week after the picture releasing of Abu Ghurayb. In timing, it could be the work done by the same special team who produced the torture scandal. Many comments in Internet pointed out that the beheading tape was done inside the Abu Ghurayb. (by the room background, orange prisoner jacket, chair. When the doubt became strong, Bush suggested to tear down the Abu Ghurayb. A move I thought to demolish the evidence.)
Each case has its motive. The motive of beheading case is obvious too: Muslim are savages. It resembles the principle of Northwood Operation: "Casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of indignation."
From the view point of propaganda, who benefits from it?
I also think Nick Berg was an informant of Feds. There was information that Nick Berg knew Moussaoui. His computer password even was used by Moussaoui. What is the chance in mathematical occasion? Less than the chance to be hit by a thunder.
I alleged OKC bombing was done by the Feds in their first attempt to get the police power of Patriot Act. I alleged 911 was a government inside job. I think Moussaoui was a government prepared witness to prove 911 was done by Al Qaida not by the Feds.
Now we saw:
Abramoff was the major role in a political scandal. He related to 911 hijackers. (see #406)
Moussaoui was in OKC. He knew Nick Berg. He was the only "witness" of 911 attack.
Nick Berg was in OKC. He knew Moussaoui. He was in a beheading tape to vilify Muslim.
The spy world is big. Feds infiltrates every corner in the country.
The spy world is also small. The big cases are that much. Where agents and informants met.
People think the Iraq war was promoted by a group whose name is "Neocon". Among them are: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Perle and other hawks. But I think it's not a group but two. Cheney and Rumsfeld are GOP conservatives who work for the interest of military industry. They control DOD. The others belong to a Zionist group who are loyal to their motherland - Israel. They control DOJ. Although one group eyes on the oil in Iraq and the other one values the security of Israel, Iraq war would fit their demand both. In common interest, they walked together. We saw Bush was authorized the war power in October 2002 by both Parties. The bill was passed through under the pressure of a DC sniper shooting spree which I think was done by DOJ.
Though the Iraq is occupied, the power struggle between the two groups never stops. The latest one is the battle for the CIA. The other one is the battle for the DOD which lasts for more than two years.
In early May 2004, a bunch of torture pictures were revealed to the world. That was Abu Ghurayb abusing. US army was humiliated. Rumsfeld was under attack. But he refused to resign. As I have said, there was always a purpose behind a scandal. This one was an attempt to take over DOD.
Sometime later, in a quiet transference, former Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz went for another job in World Bank. He likely would have been Secretary of Denfense if Rumsfeld had resigned. GOP Conservative realized he was a threat to Rumsfeld after Abu Ghurayb scandal and made a transference.
The Abu Ghurayb torture pictures should be another work of the Feds. They infiltrated into the prison guard system and organized this revelation. Or they have been there already as intelligence officers. The event which led me to think the Abu Ghurayb scandal was a DOJ"s plot was another event: Nick Berg's beheading tape.
Berg's beheading tape was released on May 11, less then a week after the picture releasing of Abu Ghurayb. In timing, it could be the work done by the same special team who produced the torture scandal. Many comments in Internet pointed out that the beheading tape was done inside the Abu Ghurayb. (by the room background, orange prisoner jacket, chair. When the doubt became strong, Bush suggested to tear down the Abu Ghurayb. A move I thought to demolish the evidence.)
Each case has its motive. The motive of beheading case is obvious too: Muslim are savages. It resembles the principle of Northwood Operation: "Casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of indignation."
From the view point of propaganda, who benefits from it?
I also think Nick Berg was an informant of Feds. There was information that Nick Berg knew Moussaoui. His computer password even was used by Moussaoui. What is the chance in mathematical occasion? Less than the chance to be hit by a thunder.
I alleged OKC bombing was done by the Feds in their first attempt to get the police power of Patriot Act. I alleged 911 was a government inside job. I think Moussaoui was a government prepared witness to prove 911 was done by Al Qaida not by the Feds.
Now we saw:
Abramoff was the major role in a political scandal. He related to 911 hijackers. (see #406)
Moussaoui was in OKC. He knew Nick Berg. He was the only "witness" of 911 attack.
Nick Berg was in OKC. He knew Moussaoui. He was in a beheading tape to vilify Muslim.
The spy world is big. Feds infiltrates every corner in the country.
The spy world is also small. The big cases are that much. Where agents and informants met.
410. The pandemic and the death of the Director of WHO (6/5/06)
Since there will be a large scale of elimination in my case, the inside group will activate a bio-attack - a Bird Flu pandemic. For more than a year, the intimidation news of Bird Flu came with each frame case. This time the Feds upgraded the level.
In this bio-attack, WHO (World Health Organization) will play an important role to control the development of the disease, give the order of quarantine, and of course, do the cover up job as well. Then we saw the death of Dr LEE Jong-Wook. He was a South Korean, WHO's Director-General
Dr Lee died on 5/22, following a short illness.(stroke) He was 61 years old. I think Dr. Lee was murdered for a coming Bird-Flu attack. Obviously he was not an insider and had to die to give his seat of Director-General to someone who works for the Inside group.
Two days later, on 5/24, six people of a family died on H5N1 virus in Indonesia. The cluster death was immediately suspected as person to person transmission.
Like the delay of Lai Changxing's case, the cluster deaths case was discredited in media on 5/27. I think if I have washed the clothes on 5/21 or sometime later, there would be an arrest in the name that Feds had found drug trace in drainage water. Lai Changxing would have been deported to China on 5/26 on time and a Bird Flu pandemic would have broken out globally.
411. Stroke and Sharon's death (6/5/06)
Dr. Lee Jong-Wook died in a surgery to remove a brain clot after he suffered a stroke.
I have alleged the Feds had applied same EM wave weapon on Mr. Wang Keli and San Jose Mayor Gonzalez. (see "223. FBI director said HongKong will be attacked (4/24/04)" , "225. Stroke (4/29/03)") I also had experience of "microwave killing. (see #5)
The principle is that the blood cell under the radiation of microwave will die and solidify to form a clot. If the clot is in heart then there is a heart attack. Or being a stroke when the clot is in brain.
I think the former Prime minister of Israel, Ariel Sharon was a victim of that EM wave weapon too. Though Sharon was a member of the Inside group, he diverted from that extremism. He might realize to reach a peace in Mid-East, he had to carry out a policy milder then he used to. Sharon withdrew Jewish settlement from Israel occupied Gaza. He offended the Zionist group and suffered a stroke.
It was obvious that Sharon was the victim of the Inside group. Which we can see from the Pat Robertson, a speaker of that group. Robertson linked Sharon's stroke to his "dividing God's Land." He also mentioned the assassinated Yitzhak Rabin's death in the same light.
The God Pat Robertson referred to is the same Bush had referred - the Inside group. They control the intelligence and have the high tech. weapon which can kill without awareness. (make a murder look like a natural death) Remember also in DC sniper shooting case, the tarot card perpetrator left for police also said, "I am God".
As for the relationship of Pat Robertson with DOJ:
Quote, "John Ashcroft to teach class at Va. college
By Richard Willing, USA TODAY
One month after leaving office, former U.S. attorney general John Ashcroft has a new job: He'll be a part-time professor at a Christian university run by television evangelist Pat Robertson
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-0...oft-teach_x.htm
Since there will be a large scale of elimination in my case, the inside group will activate a bio-attack - a Bird Flu pandemic. For more than a year, the intimidation news of Bird Flu came with each frame case. This time the Feds upgraded the level.
In this bio-attack, WHO (World Health Organization) will play an important role to control the development of the disease, give the order of quarantine, and of course, do the cover up job as well. Then we saw the death of Dr LEE Jong-Wook. He was a South Korean, WHO's Director-General
Dr Lee died on 5/22, following a short illness.(stroke) He was 61 years old. I think Dr. Lee was murdered for a coming Bird-Flu attack. Obviously he was not an insider and had to die to give his seat of Director-General to someone who works for the Inside group.
Two days later, on 5/24, six people of a family died on H5N1 virus in Indonesia. The cluster death was immediately suspected as person to person transmission.
Like the delay of Lai Changxing's case, the cluster deaths case was discredited in media on 5/27. I think if I have washed the clothes on 5/21 or sometime later, there would be an arrest in the name that Feds had found drug trace in drainage water. Lai Changxing would have been deported to China on 5/26 on time and a Bird Flu pandemic would have broken out globally.
411. Stroke and Sharon's death (6/5/06)
Dr. Lee Jong-Wook died in a surgery to remove a brain clot after he suffered a stroke.
I have alleged the Feds had applied same EM wave weapon on Mr. Wang Keli and San Jose Mayor Gonzalez. (see "223. FBI director said HongKong will be attacked (4/24/04)" , "225. Stroke (4/29/03)") I also had experience of "microwave killing. (see #5)
The principle is that the blood cell under the radiation of microwave will die and solidify to form a clot. If the clot is in heart then there is a heart attack. Or being a stroke when the clot is in brain.
I think the former Prime minister of Israel, Ariel Sharon was a victim of that EM wave weapon too. Though Sharon was a member of the Inside group, he diverted from that extremism. He might realize to reach a peace in Mid-East, he had to carry out a policy milder then he used to. Sharon withdrew Jewish settlement from Israel occupied Gaza. He offended the Zionist group and suffered a stroke.
It was obvious that Sharon was the victim of the Inside group. Which we can see from the Pat Robertson, a speaker of that group. Robertson linked Sharon's stroke to his "dividing God's Land." He also mentioned the assassinated Yitzhak Rabin's death in the same light.
The God Pat Robertson referred to is the same Bush had referred - the Inside group. They control the intelligence and have the high tech. weapon which can kill without awareness. (make a murder look like a natural death) Remember also in DC sniper shooting case, the tarot card perpetrator left for police also said, "I am God".
As for the relationship of Pat Robertson with DOJ:
Quote, "John Ashcroft to teach class at Va. college
By Richard Willing, USA TODAY
One month after leaving office, former U.S. attorney general John Ashcroft has a new job: He'll be a part-time professor at a Christian university run by television evangelist Pat Robertson
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-0...oft-teach_x.htm
Emmit!!! You sure are long winded. Why do your posts start with a number? What's up with that? Seems a little obsessive. There is a post counter in your stats on each message.
Oh Well
Boh Bpen Yang
Oh Well
Boh Bpen Yang
He doesn't respond. Just comes in and posts numbered lessons/posts to educate us. Or, in a sortuv "flow of thought" type posting. Almost like a diarrheal diary to the whole world.
QUOTE (SoloNav @ May 27 2007, 12:47 AM)
He doesn't respond. Just comes in and posts numbered lessons/posts to educate us. Or, in a sortuv "flow of thought" type posting. Almost like a diarrheal diary to the whole world.
That's just odd.
Mossad Agent Pearlman Releases Phony "Al-Qaeda Tape"
While President Bush authorizes the CIA to bankroll and arm the real Al-Qaeda in Iran
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet </index.html>
Wednesday, May 30, 2007
Adam Pearlman, the Jewish Mossad agent who once wrote stinging essays condemning Muslims as "bloodthirsty terrorists", has once again popped up as an "Al-Qaeda spokesman" to frighten the dwindling number of Americans who still believe Al-Qaeda exists outside of U.S. intelligence circles.
"An American member of al-Qaida warned President Bush on Tuesday to end U.S. involvement in all Muslim lands or face an attack worse than the Sept. 11 suicide assault, according to a new videotape."
"Wearing a white robe and a turban, Adam Yehiye Gadahn, who also goes by the name Azzam al-Amriki, said al-Qaida would not negotiate on its demands," reports the Associated Press
<http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-al-qaida-american-video,0,7089864.story>.
Who is the mysterious Adam Yehiye Gadahn?
The FBI lists <http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/gadahn.htm> Gadahn's aliases as Abu Suhayb Al-Amriki, Abu Suhayb, Yihya Majadin Adams, Adam Pearlman, and Yayah.
Adam Pearlman is his real name and his grandfather is none other than the late Carl K. Pearlman; a prominent Jewish urologist in Orange County. Carl was also a member of the board of directors of the Anti-Defamation League, which was caught spying on Americans for Israel in 1993. Mike Rivero has the scoop at WhatReallyHappened.com
<http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html>.
Israel's Mossad intelligence agency was caught in 2002 creating a phony Al-Qaeda group
<http://www.propagandamatrix.com/palestinians_arrest_al_qaeda_poseurs.htm> to justify attacks on Palestinians.
Pearlman has a knack of releasing his tapes at the most politically opportune time for Bush, having first burst onto the scene shortly before the 2004 presidential election and then again right after Katrina when the President's approval rating was tanking fast.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may20...07phonytape.htm
While President Bush authorizes the CIA to bankroll and arm the real Al-Qaeda in Iran
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet </index.html>
Wednesday, May 30, 2007
Adam Pearlman, the Jewish Mossad agent who once wrote stinging essays condemning Muslims as "bloodthirsty terrorists", has once again popped up as an "Al-Qaeda spokesman" to frighten the dwindling number of Americans who still believe Al-Qaeda exists outside of U.S. intelligence circles.
"An American member of al-Qaida warned President Bush on Tuesday to end U.S. involvement in all Muslim lands or face an attack worse than the Sept. 11 suicide assault, according to a new videotape."
"Wearing a white robe and a turban, Adam Yehiye Gadahn, who also goes by the name Azzam al-Amriki, said al-Qaida would not negotiate on its demands," reports the Associated Press
<http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-al-qaida-american-video,0,7089864.story>.
Who is the mysterious Adam Yehiye Gadahn?
The FBI lists <http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/gadahn.htm> Gadahn's aliases as Abu Suhayb Al-Amriki, Abu Suhayb, Yihya Majadin Adams, Adam Pearlman, and Yayah.
Adam Pearlman is his real name and his grandfather is none other than the late Carl K. Pearlman; a prominent Jewish urologist in Orange County. Carl was also a member of the board of directors of the Anti-Defamation League, which was caught spying on Americans for Israel in 1993. Mike Rivero has the scoop at WhatReallyHappened.com
<http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html>.
Israel's Mossad intelligence agency was caught in 2002 creating a phony Al-Qaeda group
<http://www.propagandamatrix.com/palestinians_arrest_al_qaeda_poseurs.htm> to justify attacks on Palestinians.
Pearlman has a knack of releasing his tapes at the most politically opportune time for Bush, having first burst onto the scene shortly before the 2004 presidential election and then again right after Katrina when the President's approval rating was tanking fast.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may20...07phonytape.htm
Exposing Israel's Blantant Spying and Involvement in 9-11
<http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/exposing_the_big_con.htm>
SOTT
Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:29 EDT
There exists much evidence, conveniently overlooked by certain 9-11 investigators to strongly suggest that agents of Israel were deeply involved in the events surrounding the 9-11 attacks. For example, there is the fact of the Israeli spy ring, as exposed, surprisingly, by Fox News' Carl Cameron. In the four part series aired on Fox News in December 2001 Cameron reports many interesting facts.
See for yourselves right now in these four videos - long since removed from the Fox News site but preserved at various sites around the Internet:
<http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/133831-Exposing+Israel%27s+Blantant+Spying+and+Involvement+in+9-11>
This FOX news series was pulled after being aired.
<http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/exposing_the_big_con.htm>
SOTT
Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:29 EDT
There exists much evidence, conveniently overlooked by certain 9-11 investigators to strongly suggest that agents of Israel were deeply involved in the events surrounding the 9-11 attacks. For example, there is the fact of the Israeli spy ring, as exposed, surprisingly, by Fox News' Carl Cameron. In the four part series aired on Fox News in December 2001 Cameron reports many interesting facts.
See for yourselves right now in these four videos - long since removed from the Fox News site but preserved at various sites around the Internet:
<http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/133831-Exposing+Israel%27s+Blantant+Spying+and+Involvement+in+9-11>
This FOX news series was pulled after being aired.
kathaksung, you have a great future ahead of you as a homicide bomber. Do not resist your calling. But do not get over confident. A trial run or two in your basement will allow you to perfect your new calling.
Quote, "AIPAC Buys Fred Thompson
Sunday, June 17, 2007
Fred Thompson coming to Israel
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WASHINGTON (FMLiveWire) - AIPAC and Israel are congratulating themselves for having successfully purchased yet another American presidential candidate, Fred Thompson.
US presidential Republican hopeful and former star of the hit television series "Law & Order," Thompson is scheduled to make his first visit to Israel shortly.
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007/06/...d-thompson.html
Sunday, June 17, 2007
Fred Thompson coming to Israel
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WASHINGTON (FMLiveWire) - AIPAC and Israel are congratulating themselves for having successfully purchased yet another American presidential candidate, Fred Thompson.
US presidential Republican hopeful and former star of the hit television series "Law & Order," Thompson is scheduled to make his first visit to Israel shortly.
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007/06/...d-thompson.html
AIPAC Intervenes on Iran
By BADRUDDIN KHAN
It has happened again, and in the open. The American Israeli Political Action Committee (AIPAC) which heads a network of pro-Israeli lobbies, persuaded Congress to drop a provision which would have required President Bush to ask for Congressional approval prior to attacking Iran.
As reported in the May 16, 2007 issue of The Hill:
"The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), an influential group that advocates strong U.S. ties with Israel, lobbied heavily to remove the Iran provision in the supplemental, arguing that the measure would weaken President Bush's attempts to dissuade Iran from developing nuclear weapons."
This intervention by AIPAC to permit President Bush to act without Congressional debate was widely reported, as was AIPAC's earlier intervention with a supplemental budget bill.
In other words, a Democratic Congress elected to end the Iraq war has willingly given up its right (and responsibility) to engage in public debate prior to a new act of war against Iran, a sovereign nation. By voting to look the other way, Congress has left this war decision to the discretion of an unpopular president, who has already failed once.
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=73344
By BADRUDDIN KHAN
It has happened again, and in the open. The American Israeli Political Action Committee (AIPAC) which heads a network of pro-Israeli lobbies, persuaded Congress to drop a provision which would have required President Bush to ask for Congressional approval prior to attacking Iran.
As reported in the May 16, 2007 issue of The Hill:
"The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), an influential group that advocates strong U.S. ties with Israel, lobbied heavily to remove the Iran provision in the supplemental, arguing that the measure would weaken President Bush's attempts to dissuade Iran from developing nuclear weapons."
This intervention by AIPAC to permit President Bush to act without Congressional debate was widely reported, as was AIPAC's earlier intervention with a supplemental budget bill.
In other words, a Democratic Congress elected to end the Iraq war has willingly given up its right (and responsibility) to engage in public debate prior to a new act of war against Iran, a sovereign nation. By voting to look the other way, Congress has left this war decision to the discretion of an unpopular president, who has already failed once.
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=73344
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Apr 17 2007, 08:52 AM)
You're crazy,kathaksung, as well as an unlikeable, prejudiced person. I feel sorry for you, sir or madam.
You're rather stupid as well. BTW, I have a bridge in New York I'd like to sell.........
Now now, SoloNav, would that be you acting cruel, or sarcastic? However, I agree with you. You're rather stupid as well. BTW, I have a bridge in New York I'd like to sell.........
"Whatever AIPAC Wants, AIPAC Gets"
Democratic Defectors and the Israel Lobby
By JERRY KROTH
In November, the American electorate repudiated Bush's Iraq debacle and established Democratic majorities in both the House and Senate promising to bring this "flawed policy wrapped in illusion" to a decisive end. Bush vetoed their withdrawal timetable, but voters urged their leaders to hold the line and not be bullied. In the end, though, 37 Democratic senators capitulated and gratuitously gave the President his $100 billion no-strings- attached blank check . . . enough money to pay tuition and fees for 1.3 million college students for four solid years!
Deep disappointment set in. Cindy Sheehan, the liberal icon, was so demoralized she resigned and returned to private life. In June, a CNN poll reported that "respect for Congress" plummeted to the lowest level "ever recorded."
Bloggers called them "traitor Democrats", and the descriptor is apropos. At the time of the vote, sixty-two percent of the American people favored a time-table for a withdrawal, but, more significantly, "seventy percent" of Democrats were so inclined. Voting against this burgeoning tide of anger betrayed the will of the people and party that put these Democrats in office.
Curiously, all of the traitor democrats were huge career recipients of funds from the Israeli lobby. If we took ten Democratic apostates and compared them to ten Democrats who stood by the voters, pro-Israeli PAC contributions were "ten times" greater for the turncoats than those who stayed with their constituencies ($322,000 versus $34,000 on average).
To be specific: Carl Levin, outspoken critic of the war and, we thought, a loyal supporter of the new regime to end it, defected and blithely turned his back on his Michigan support base. Despite his strident anti-war rhetoric, the Grand Rapids Independent reports Levin has supported Bush all the way "consistently funding the war and not introducing any meaningful legislation to bring it closer to an end." Practically unknown to his constituents, Levin is one of the largest beneficiaries of Pro-Israeli PAC funds collecting $600,000 in career contributions according to the Washington Report on Mideast Affairs.
Barbara Boxer, Denis Kucinich, and Earl Blaumenauer, all opponents of the war, collectively got $73,000, but turncoat-democrats, Dan Durbin, Max Baucus, and Frank Lautenberg scooped up in excess of a million plus untold benes like travel funds.
What comes out in the wash is the best PAC money can buy: Three months before we invaded Iraq, a New York Times poll showed only 30 percent of the American people favored an all-out invasion, but the Israeli lobby (AIPAC) did, and it prevailed. Hardly a sprinkling of Americans favored the "surge", a meager fourteen percent, but AIPAC did, and the surge is surging as we speak. Fewer than thirty percent of Democrats supported that no-strings-budget, but AIPAC did, and the conclusion plays out another hackneyed chorus of "Whatever AIPAC wants, AIPAC gets."
In 1992, the director of the Israeli lobby, David Steiner, was surreptitiously recorded bragging about playing a role in selecting the Secretary of State and what he got for Israel: "Besides the $10 billion in loan guarantees which was a fabulous thing, $3 billion in foreign, in military aid, and I got almost a billion dollars in other goodies that people don't even know about!" When the tape was made public, Steiner resigned, but it underscored the incredible power, access, and influence this lobby has.
Two professors, Mearsheimer and Walt, recently insinuated that American democracy has been suborned by the Israeli lobby, echoing Senator Fulbright's 1989 indictment that AIPAC had usurped the electoral process and could "elect or defeat nearly any congressman or senator that they wish." Such observations do not fall on deaf ears. Over half the senate and a third of the congress obediently attended the AIPAC annual convention (versus less than a dozen visiting the NAACP's event). Non-attendance can suggest a lawmaker might be soft on terrorism, or, god forbid, anti-Semitic.
Anti-war idealists might think that soon this American war crime, the shock-and-awe carnage, the torture, and the renditions are coming to an end, but the agenda of AIPAC seems bent on keeping American armies in the Middle East as an Israeli first line of defense for the indefinite future. Their major attack dog, Joe Lieberman, recently gave a hint on Face the Nation as to might be next: " military strikes" against Iran. . . all apparently to guarantee that Israel will remain the only nuclear power in the Middle East.
So if you think you voted, or are planning to vote, to bring the troops home and end this national embarrassment, some fool's gold waiting for you at the end of that rainbow.
Democratic Defectors and the Israel Lobby
By JERRY KROTH
In November, the American electorate repudiated Bush's Iraq debacle and established Democratic majorities in both the House and Senate promising to bring this "flawed policy wrapped in illusion" to a decisive end. Bush vetoed their withdrawal timetable, but voters urged their leaders to hold the line and not be bullied. In the end, though, 37 Democratic senators capitulated and gratuitously gave the President his $100 billion no-strings- attached blank check . . . enough money to pay tuition and fees for 1.3 million college students for four solid years!
Deep disappointment set in. Cindy Sheehan, the liberal icon, was so demoralized she resigned and returned to private life. In June, a CNN poll reported that "respect for Congress" plummeted to the lowest level "ever recorded."
Bloggers called them "traitor Democrats", and the descriptor is apropos. At the time of the vote, sixty-two percent of the American people favored a time-table for a withdrawal, but, more significantly, "seventy percent" of Democrats were so inclined. Voting against this burgeoning tide of anger betrayed the will of the people and party that put these Democrats in office.
Curiously, all of the traitor democrats were huge career recipients of funds from the Israeli lobby. If we took ten Democratic apostates and compared them to ten Democrats who stood by the voters, pro-Israeli PAC contributions were "ten times" greater for the turncoats than those who stayed with their constituencies ($322,000 versus $34,000 on average).
To be specific: Carl Levin, outspoken critic of the war and, we thought, a loyal supporter of the new regime to end it, defected and blithely turned his back on his Michigan support base. Despite his strident anti-war rhetoric, the Grand Rapids Independent reports Levin has supported Bush all the way "consistently funding the war and not introducing any meaningful legislation to bring it closer to an end." Practically unknown to his constituents, Levin is one of the largest beneficiaries of Pro-Israeli PAC funds collecting $600,000 in career contributions according to the Washington Report on Mideast Affairs.
Barbara Boxer, Denis Kucinich, and Earl Blaumenauer, all opponents of the war, collectively got $73,000, but turncoat-democrats, Dan Durbin, Max Baucus, and Frank Lautenberg scooped up in excess of a million plus untold benes like travel funds.
What comes out in the wash is the best PAC money can buy: Three months before we invaded Iraq, a New York Times poll showed only 30 percent of the American people favored an all-out invasion, but the Israeli lobby (AIPAC) did, and it prevailed. Hardly a sprinkling of Americans favored the "surge", a meager fourteen percent, but AIPAC did, and the surge is surging as we speak. Fewer than thirty percent of Democrats supported that no-strings-budget, but AIPAC did, and the conclusion plays out another hackneyed chorus of "Whatever AIPAC wants, AIPAC gets."
In 1992, the director of the Israeli lobby, David Steiner, was surreptitiously recorded bragging about playing a role in selecting the Secretary of State and what he got for Israel: "Besides the $10 billion in loan guarantees which was a fabulous thing, $3 billion in foreign, in military aid, and I got almost a billion dollars in other goodies that people don't even know about!" When the tape was made public, Steiner resigned, but it underscored the incredible power, access, and influence this lobby has.
Two professors, Mearsheimer and Walt, recently insinuated that American democracy has been suborned by the Israeli lobby, echoing Senator Fulbright's 1989 indictment that AIPAC had usurped the electoral process and could "elect or defeat nearly any congressman or senator that they wish." Such observations do not fall on deaf ears. Over half the senate and a third of the congress obediently attended the AIPAC annual convention (versus less than a dozen visiting the NAACP's event). Non-attendance can suggest a lawmaker might be soft on terrorism, or, god forbid, anti-Semitic.
Anti-war idealists might think that soon this American war crime, the shock-and-awe carnage, the torture, and the renditions are coming to an end, but the agenda of AIPAC seems bent on keeping American armies in the Middle East as an Israeli first line of defense for the indefinite future. Their major attack dog, Joe Lieberman, recently gave a hint on Face the Nation as to might be next: " military strikes" against Iran. . . all apparently to guarantee that Israel will remain the only nuclear power in the Middle East.
So if you think you voted, or are planning to vote, to bring the troops home and end this national embarrassment, some fool's gold waiting for you at the end of that rainbow.
The US policy towards Israel should be the same towards all nations: Always friends, never allies.
I oppose foreign aid to Israel just as oppose US foreign aid to any nation. Israel is quite capable of handling herself militarily at this point, she is in no danger of annihilation by the Arab states anymore.
I oppose foreign aid to Israel just as oppose US foreign aid to any nation. Israel is quite capable of handling herself militarily at this point, she is in no danger of annihilation by the Arab states anymore.
Welcome back Ben. However you are wrong in your opinions. Isreal could not exist without US aid. Militarily they were the losers in last summers' war against Hezbollah. No foreign aid? Ludicrous at best. These dollars sent to other countries are the first line of defense in hopes that that country will remain a friend of the US annd not an adversary. Would you prefer China in the role of largest giver of foreign aid. And where would that put the US in 20 years??????????????
Could Bloomberg, not known in NYC as the Jewish mayor, be America's first Jewish president?
The Associated Press Published: July 6, 2007
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/06/...rg-Religion.php
The Associated Press Published: July 6, 2007
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/06/...rg-Religion.php
Sudan: Jews behind Darfur conflict
Sudanese defense minister says '24 Jewish organizations fueling conflict in Darfur' Yaakov Lappin
Published: 07.29.07, 20:29 / Israel News
Sudan's defense minister, Abdel Rahim Mohamed Hussein, has accused "24 Jewish organizations" of "fueling the conflict in Darfur" last week in an interview with a Saudi newspaper.
"The Darfur issue is being fuelled by 24 Jewish organizations, who are making the largest amount of noise over the issue, and using the Holocaust in their campaigning," the Sudanese defense minister replied.
Hussein added that the Darfur conflict was driven by "friction between farmers and herders and shepherds. Among the biggest problems is that of water, which is used to exploit the differences and fuel the conflict."
"Are these Jewish groups supporting (the rebels) financially?," the interviewer from Okaz asked Hussein.
"Yes, they provide political and material support through their control over the media and across American and British circles," Hussein said, adding that Jewish groups were using "all means to fuel these conflicts."
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3431281,00.html
Sudanese defense minister says '24 Jewish organizations fueling conflict in Darfur' Yaakov Lappin
Published: 07.29.07, 20:29 / Israel News
Sudan's defense minister, Abdel Rahim Mohamed Hussein, has accused "24 Jewish organizations" of "fueling the conflict in Darfur" last week in an interview with a Saudi newspaper.
"The Darfur issue is being fuelled by 24 Jewish organizations, who are making the largest amount of noise over the issue, and using the Holocaust in their campaigning," the Sudanese defense minister replied.
Hussein added that the Darfur conflict was driven by "friction between farmers and herders and shepherds. Among the biggest problems is that of water, which is used to exploit the differences and fuel the conflict."
"Are these Jewish groups supporting (the rebels) financially?," the interviewer from Okaz asked Hussein.
"Yes, they provide political and material support through their control over the media and across American and British circles," Hussein said, adding that Jewish groups were using "all means to fuel these conflicts."
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3431281,00.html
The Sudanese government is a disgrace. They're the ones propping up the only real armed force in all of Darfur. They've been blaming their victims in Darfur for the past five years, and now that their story isn't gaining any traction, they decide "it's the Jews' fault."? This is ######ing ridiculous. This whole "war" was just an excuse for the Sudanese government to get rid of these "separatist" ethnic groups which had been sitting on some very desireable real-estate.
There's only two reasons why the Khartoum government isn't in rags, begging the world for forgiveness. Reason one, China and Russia are intimately tied into Sudan's oil industry. Reason two, America and the West need Sudanese intelligence on terror suspects.
There's only two reasons why the Khartoum government isn't in rags, begging the world for forgiveness. Reason one, China and Russia are intimately tied into Sudan's oil industry. Reason two, America and the West need Sudanese intelligence on terror suspects.
Quote, "Up to 80 congressmen visit israel in August
They should just hold their next session in Tel Aviv and do away with the useless formality of meeting on Capitol Hill.
And that's just "in the coming weeks."
By the time the year is out every single member of Congress will have made their rounds in israel!
Now, that's loyalty!
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/2902
They should just hold their next session in Tel Aviv and do away with the useless formality of meeting on Capitol Hill.
And that's just "in the coming weeks."
By the time the year is out every single member of Congress will have made their rounds in israel!
Now, that's loyalty!
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/2902
The United States of Israel Freedom Rider: The United States of Israel <http://www.blackagendareport.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=268&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=36>
Wednesday, 04 July 2007
by BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret Kimberley
The 4th of July is supposed to be a celebration of U.S. independence. But no one can honestly claim that the U.S. is independent of Israel and its immensely powerful domestic lobby. Certainly not the Congressional Black Caucus, all of whose members voted for a resolution charging Iran with "genocide" because of a deliberately misquoted statement by the Iranian president. Israel's interests override the truth every time. The pro-Israel lobby terrorizes presidential candidates, threatening them with political death if they utter a hint of criticism of the regime. Happy Independence Day.
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007/07/...-of-israel.html
Wednesday, 04 July 2007
by BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret Kimberley
The 4th of July is supposed to be a celebration of U.S. independence. But no one can honestly claim that the U.S. is independent of Israel and its immensely powerful domestic lobby. Certainly not the Congressional Black Caucus, all of whose members voted for a resolution charging Iran with "genocide" because of a deliberately misquoted statement by the Iranian president. Israel's interests override the truth every time. The pro-Israel lobby terrorizes presidential candidates, threatening them with political death if they utter a hint of criticism of the regime. Happy Independence Day.
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007/07/...-of-israel.html
A Democratic congressman accused AIPAC of having "pushed" the Iraq war.
09/09/2007
"AIPAC is the most powerful lobby and has pushed this war from the beginning," U.S. Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) said in this month's Tikkun magazine. "Because they are so well organized, and their members are extraordinarily powerful -- most of them are quite wealthy -- they have been able to exert power."
Moran has stirred controversy in the past for his criticisms of the Israel lobby. The National Jewish Democratic Council called on Moran to retract the comments about the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
<http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/104067.html>
09/09/2007
"AIPAC is the most powerful lobby and has pushed this war from the beginning," U.S. Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) said in this month's Tikkun magazine. "Because they are so well organized, and their members are extraordinarily powerful -- most of them are quite wealthy -- they have been able to exert power."
Moran has stirred controversy in the past for his criticisms of the Israel lobby. The National Jewish Democratic Council called on Moran to retract the comments about the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
<http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/104067.html>
Moran Upsets Jewish Groups Again
U.S. House Democrat Said Pro-Israel Lobby Promoted War
By Amy Gardner
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 15, 2007; Page B05
Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.) has again come under fire from local Jewish organizations for remarking in a magazine interview that the "extraordinarily powerful" pro-Israel lobby played a strong role promoting the war in Iraq.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7091402171.html
U.S. House Democrat Said Pro-Israel Lobby Promoted War
By Amy Gardner
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 15, 2007; Page B05
Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.) has again come under fire from local Jewish organizations for remarking in a magazine interview that the "extraordinarily powerful" pro-Israel lobby played a strong role promoting the war in Iraq.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7091402171.html
Pro-'surge' group is almost all Jewish
08/24/2007
Four of five members of the board of a campaign promoting President Bush's policies in the Iraq war are Republican Jews.
The board of "Freedom's Watch" includes Ari Fleischer, Bush's former press secretary; Matt Brooks, the executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition; Bradley Blakeman, a senior White House staffer in Bush's first term; and Mel Sembler, a longtime RJC leader and former ambassador to Rome
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/103795.html.html
08/24/2007
Four of five members of the board of a campaign promoting President Bush's policies in the Iraq war are Republican Jews.
The board of "Freedom's Watch" includes Ari Fleischer, Bush's former press secretary; Matt Brooks, the executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition; Bradley Blakeman, a senior White House staffer in Bush's first term; and Mel Sembler, a longtime RJC leader and former ambassador to Rome
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/103795.html.html
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