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ustrader
Libby Convicted of 4 of 5 charges of perjury (lying under oath).

Libby faces "potentially" 25 years. The most serious charge of perjury attempted obstruction of justice has a maximum sentence guideline of 10 Years. The less charges of 3 perjury convictions, lying un oath, carry a maximum of 5 years each.

Under Federal Sentencing guidelines, the time served will be concurrent, meaning he faces the maximum of 10 years ( longest max sentence, not one upon the other). Likely will serve 2 years or less.

I agree completly that lying under oath, if proven and found gulity is unacceptable and thus no one is above the law in that regard or committing any crime at all in these United States of America.

That is why in all thosem like myself, that agreed with that view must equally agree that as Libby was convicted as was Slick Willy Clinton conviction of Impeachment, Justice and the American way is preserved in fair and open way when anyone is commites perjury and obstruction of justice, as Libby was convicted of and thus should have been, like Libby and Clinton, held accountable for doing so.

The system works and we are still very free. America is not a Nazi state of eroding freedoms like our resident moonbats rant so often and this proves that unquestionably.

God and the PC protect America! ohmy.gif :l 012.gif
IvyLeagueElitist
While it's great that Libby was found guilty, this trial hardly restores our Representative Republic.
ustrader
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Mar 7 2007, 01:45 AM) *
While it's great that Libby was found guilty, this trial hardly restores our Representative Republic.



025.gif The problem with supposition is the subjective suppose within it.

It, in a small way, standing against the ranting yells of tyranny and oppression, along with the recent election, goes farther to the opposite, in disproving any need for restoration in our Representative Governance than is given to prove it needs restoring in the first place. 032.gif
Grizzly
I'm willing to bet that Libbey will be pardoned before Bush leaves office. Any takers? cool.gif
SoloNav
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Mar 18 2007, 06:56 PM) *
I'm willing to bet that Libbey will be pardoned before Bush leaves office. Any takers? cool.gif

I should hope so.

He deserves as much as Clinton received from Congress who refused to remove him from office when he was impeached for lying under oath, which lying was much more proven than this farce case against Libby.

This trial has been a low camp parody from beginning to end. What a joke!
dixon76710
I don't know. I think it more probable to forget exactly what you said to Russert over a year ago, than it would be to forget if you had gotten a blow job in the oval office from Monica. It would kind of be like Bill forgeting what color lipstick monica had on that night. MARK
IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Mar 19 2007, 08:27 AM) *
I should hope so.

He deserves as much as Clinton received from Congress who refused to remove him from office when he was impeached for lying under oath, which lying was much more proven than this farce case against Libby.

This trial has been a low camp parody from beginning to end. What a joke!


Oh you rabid Conservatives with your Clinton-Derangment Syndrome! tongue.gif biggrin.gif
SoloNav
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Mar 19 2007, 10:25 PM) *
Oh you rabid Conservatives with your Clinton-Derangment Syndrome! tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Hello, Grizz. Is this you?
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Also, remember: Just because I may be paranoid doesn't mean they aren't talking about me. And, just because you may not be paranoid doesn't mean they aren't talking about you.

In other words, even "rabid Conservative" can be right. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Mar 19 2007, 11:29 PM) *
Hello, Grizz. Is this you?
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Also, remember: Just because I may be paranoid doesn't mean they aren't talking about me. And, just because you may not be paranoid doesn't mean they aren't talking about you.

In other words, even "rabid Conservative" can be right. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


I imagine an old man frothing at the mouth sitting on his porch on a rocking chair cleaning his hunting rifle stammering to himself "They're out to get me" when I hear that phrase.
SoloNav
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Mar 19 2007, 10:32 PM) *
I imagine an old man frothing at the mouth sitting on his porch on a rocking chair cleaning his hunting rifle stammering to himself "They're out to get me" when I hear that phrase.

You didn't say whether or not you are Grizz.


Actually, concerning the pararoids, I've met more of them under the age of 50. That's a disease of younger folks as they usually don't live long enough to be an old man or woman (frothing aside).

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IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Mar 19 2007, 11:37 PM) *
You didn't say whether or not you are Grizz.
Actually, concerning the pararoids, I've met more of them under the age of 50. That's a disease of younger folks as they usually don't live long enough to be an old man or woman (frothing aside).

ph34r.gif


That's because we're dying in a war old ######s wanted to wage while they cast dissenters as traitors and supportive of the enemy; nothing but weak-kneed pansies with no backbone or courage to dwell up in a time of crisis.
ustrader
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Mar 20 2007, 12:32 PM) *
I imagine an old man frothing at the mouth sitting on his porch on a rocking chair cleaning his hunting rifle stammering to himself "They're out to get me" when I hear that phrase.

Oh my, the astro projection is getting more intense.


Projection and Anaphor resolution, maximized to muddle the deception of not addressing the issue. Sad really sad.

QUOTE
No human trait deserves less tolerance in everyday life, and gets less, than intolerance.
Giacomo Leopardi
IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE
Oh my, the astro projection is getting more intense.


Projection and Anaphor resolution, maximized to muddle the deception of not addressing the issue. Sad really sad.


I am addressing the issue... huh.gif
SoloNav
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Mar 20 2007, 11:26 AM) *
That's because we're dying in a war old ######s wanted to wage while they cast dissenters as traitors and supportive of the enemy; nothing but weak-kneed pansies with no backbone or courage to dwell up in a time of crisis.


Grizz, some day you will be and old fart yourself. Anyhoo, calling names doesn't amount for a substantive argument, now does it? dry.gif
IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Mar 20 2007, 03:47 PM) *
Grizz, some day you will be and old fart yourself. Anyhoo, calling names doesn't amount for a substantive argument, now does it? dry.gif


Yeah, talk to Nomad about it.

But, Nomad agrees with your worldview, so his name-calling is justified, correct?
SoloNav
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Mar 20 2007, 03:48 PM) *
Yeah, talk to Nomad about it.

But, Nomad agrees with your worldview, so his name-calling is justified, correct?

No.
IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Mar 20 2007, 03:52 PM) *
No.


Well then, don't let me get in your way of discussing name-calling with Sir/Frau Nomad.
SoloNav
QUOTE (IvyLeagueElitist @ Mar 20 2007, 03:57 PM) *
Well then, don't let me get in your way of discussing name-calling with Sir/Frau Nomad.


OK.

Stop it, Nomad. mad.gif
IvyLeagueElitist
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Mar 20 2007, 04:14 PM) *
OK.

Stop it, Nomad. mad.gif


More emotion, more...enthusiasm!

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Grizzly
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Mar 20 2007, 04:47 PM) *
Grizz, some day you will be and old fart yourself. Anyhoo, calling names doesn't amount for a substantive argument, now does it? dry.gif

Solo: Sorry. Don't get in here that much anymore. But be rest assured that you were not talking to me. popcorn.gif
SoloNav
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Mar 24 2007, 06:37 AM) *
Solo: Sorry. Don't get in here that much anymore. But be rest assured that you were not talking to me. popcorn.gif

Towards the end, I was beginning to think that. You lack that nastiness that I was beginning to see, or you have an alter ego. blink.gif

So, why don't you get in here anymore?
Grizzly
QUOTE ("SoloNav")
So, why don't you get in here anymore?
Just been busy with other things, that's all. wink.gif
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