Bob, I wonder if you could imagine, if only for an instant, forgetting all the irrelevant politics and ideology of this, and concentrate on the absolute incompetence of Bush & Co. That alone should be enough to offend any true conservative.

There is a divinity in oddity, either in numbers, nativity, chance or death.

iswhatitis.........Reality is not exactly a strong point for those who at all cost avoid truth. Lying and deception is what they have become accustom too, something in which they find solace and comfort. It’s no surprise to me that fallacy, satire, ambiguity, grey areas, secrecy is the environment lying reprobates require.


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Be careful the questions do ask; you might get an answer.

I only asked one question. "Do you really think Bubba was impeached for humping a little girl's mouth?"

There is nothing to fear from your answer, only enlightenment, instead I received NO answer. I screwed up, I asked the question at the end of my post, your attention span had apparently been exceeded by that 3rd or 4th sentence. So I start with it now. Be careful of those questions you will not answer, denial reveals more of one's character than ignorance.

Bob, I wonder if you could imagine, if only for an instant, forgetting all the irrelevant politics and ideology of this, and concentrate on the absolute incompetence of Bush & Co. That alone should be enough to offend any true conservative.

Thankfully there are members of Congress, Democrats and Republicans, who are not ignorant lap-dogs for Bush's failed foreign policies. The non-stop corruption, lies and incompetence of Bush is exactly why he should be undermined. Even during the cold war the US had lines of direct communication with the USSR. Bush's foolish refusal to negotiate is childish and counterproductive.

"...the president had failed to promote the necessary dialog to resolve disagreements between the US and Syria." Rep. Darrell Issa, R - CA

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/05/breaki...yria-for-talks/

Newt Gingrich says the country would be better served by the resignation of Gonzales:

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Embattled_Bus...c_04082007.html

You're funny, d2. Hilarious.

I just can't take you seriously.

America's Saddam?
by JACK WHEELER

In light of Janet Reno's concession of defeat in Florida's primary elections, and as an addendum to Chris Ruddy and Carl Limbacher's current best seller, "Catastrophe," America needs to remember the horrific evil perpetrated by then-Attorney General Reno in the first months of the Clinton presidency.

In March of 1993, I was the keynote speaker at a conference of business and civic leaders held in Indianapolis. One of those attending was a federal judge named Joe (it's best not to mention his last name). He seemed a nice, decent fellow who not once hinted that (as I had been informed by the organizer of the conference) he was on the short list of candidates to be the new director of the FBI. The current FBI director, William Sessions, had announced his attention to resign as soon as the recently inaugurated Bill Clinton found a replacement.

Joe and I sat together at lunch and the conversation was pleasant ? until someone at the table brought up Waco.

The ATF had assaulted the Davidian church complex a month earlier and the standoff was ensuing, with the final holocaust a month away. When I asked Joe what he thought of what was going on at Waco, his entire demeanor and body language changed, his face turned purple with rage, and he announced: "I'll tell you what the FBI should do. Those people [the Davidians] killed federal agents. We should go in there and kill every last one of them."

Someone responded, "There are children in there, Joe." Joe brushed the comment aside with a wave of his hand. "You don't understand. No one can get away with killing federal agents. They all deserve to be killed in return."

Joe was passed over in favor of Louis Freeh, but he exemplified the mindset not just of the FBI but also of so many in law enforcement in general. As anyone who has made the mistake of arguing with a police officer giving them a traffic ticket understands, the most heinous crime anyone can commit, more evil and depraved than child molestation, is Contempt of Cop.

You know the joke: A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged; a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested. Smart-mouth a cop and you're asking for a world of grief. Fight back and defend yourself from police action, no matter what the action is, and your life is in danger.

This is what happened at Waco. The Davidians tried to defend themselves from an armed ATF raid, set up as a pure publicity stunt to better argue for increased funding. That the raid had a flimsy pretext and was botched was irrelevant to the federal law enforcement community, however. No matter how and why, federal agents were killed and revenge had to be taken. The FBI man in charge of the siege and final death raid of April 19, Richard Rogers, thought exactly like Joe.

It is important to grasp that what happened in Waco was no accident, that the Davidians were killed on purpose in an act of revenge by the American government. And it is important to know just how they were killed, that the method of their killing was as grisly and evil as anything perpetrated by Saddam Hussein.

On the morning of April 19, 1993, the FBI smashed holes into the Davidian church complex and began pumping in a chemical warfare agent known as CS (o-chlorobenzylidenemalononitrile). It is a solid in the form of white crystals. The FBI dissolved the CS powder in an organic solvent so they could liquid spray it into the buildings.

A lot of attention has been paid to the horror of CS, but not much on the solvent. It's called methylene chloride, MC. Ever bought paint remover and noticed the label warning to use it "only in a well-ventilated area"? That's because it contains MC.

The effects of MC are exactly the same as those of chloroform if you use twice as much of it. When a person breathes MC (or chloroform at half the concentration) vapor he or she first becomes irritable. Second, they lose their coordination and judgment, while their vision becomes blurred. Third, they become paranoid and hyper-excitable. Fourth, they experience auditory and visual hallucinations. Fifth, they lapse into muscular paralysis and unconsciousness.

It is this fifth stage that caused surgeons to use chloroform as the first anesthetic in the 19th century. But doctors switched to ether because of uncontrollable behavior of the patients going through the first four stages ? and because of a last sixth stage. If you use only about two times as much chloroform as it takes to render someone unconscious, the patient suffers respiratory paralysis, stops breathing, and dies. It is the same with MC.

The FBI cut off the electricity to the Davidians and knew all they had

for light were kerosene lamps. Yet they sprayed into their buildings hundreds of pounds of methylene chloride, which makes people stumble around like they're drunk, with no coordination, with blurry vision, hallucinating and excitable: a guarantee that kerosene lamps would be knocked over and fires started.

In the presence of fire, MC vapor decomposes into hydrogen chloride, which has the same effect on any moisture-laden area of the body as sulfur mustard gas used in World War I: excruciating searing pain in the eyes, the mucous lining of the nose, and the lungs.

Remember that the FBI used MC as a solvent to dissolve CS crystals. It turns out that when CS is burned, it produces hydrogen cyanide, the same gas used to execute prisoners on Death Row.

During the Iran-Iraq war, Saddam Hussein discovered the most lethal chemical warfare agent was a combination of sulfur mustard gas with hydrogen cyanide, which he used in artillery shells to slaughter thousands of Iranians. It was in effect this same combination that the FBI used to slaughter 87 men, women and children in Waco.

The question is: Who authorized the CS/MC combination? CS is not normally dissolved into a solution. Who knew about MC and could order it to be a solvent for CS? Sit down, folks, and hold on tight: Janet Reno has a Bachelor of Science Degree in Chemistry from Cornell University. Cornell has a very good chemistry department. MC is used as an organic solvent for many experiments. There is no question Reno would be very familiar with it, and was informed of its dangers by her professors. Janet Reno is America's Saddam Hussein.

Congressman Bob Barr, R-Ga., has a coroner's photograph taken of one of the Davidian victims entitled "Doe #57." It is of a little girl around 5 or 6 years old, her charred body burned beyond recognition and twisted in the ghastly rictus contortion typical of subjection to hydrogen cyanide.

There are few more monstrous crimes against humanity than torturing children to death in screaming pain, poison-gassing them to death on purpose. That the perpetrator of this crime wasn't tried and executed for mass homicide, but was instead lionized by the media, served out her term of office, and came close to being elected as the Democrat nominee for the governor of Florida says something very dark about human nature.

The slaughter of American citizens by their government at Waco was dismissed by many Americans, because the people killed were "just cultists" ? like Germans who excused Nazi pogroms because the people killed were "just Jews." As America comes to grips with the danger and evil of Saddam Hussein and gets ready to extinguish it, America also needs to come to grips with the evil it condoned at Waco.

America condoned a vast amount of depravity during the Clinton years. Yet the depravity of Waco was the worst of all. Unless expunged through public revulsion of Janet Reno, it will remain an ineradicable stain on America's soul.

©copyright 2002

Dr. Jack Wheeler and the Freedom Research Foundation

A low-life creep like Slick Willie could only have come from a white trash dump like Arkansas.

I only asked one question........

iswhatitis.....I’m not surprised how your latent Pedophilia intrudes upon the subject matter in a most twisted bazaar sort of way. When you jump from the article that was posted to molestation of children… everyone gets insight into your underlining sick and perverse nature.

The pattern is consistent among all you spies, all you depraved Bolshevik propagandist; you have no sense of morally, decency, ethics, or patriotism. All the political message boards confirm this! The worst type of animals to walk the earth are those who may look human, may have human thinking, but none of the inner qualities which makes one human and civilized.
All the lies, the policies of torture, carpet bombing, beastly greed are just some of the scum bag attributes of these morons, retarded in terms virtue, and any real humanitarian concerns. Sub-human greedy murdering beast, which only appear human, but inwardly are worst then animals.

Ok d2. You despise Clinton, you depise Bush........... You always complain............. How about giving us your solutions and vision on how this country should be run. NO LINKS!. Your thoughts and words. I am beginnig to believe you are an anarchist. Open a dialog here, it will make for facinating discussion.

And I will not berate or ridicule your positions on this. You have my word on that. Truce.

No, I am not an anarchist, I am a retired engineer and I believe in the capitalist system and the exactness of Ohms law, mathematics and science. My patriotism is for the people, the geography and the Constitution of this great country. I have no tolerance for counterproductive political manipulation, mismanagement, lies, or incompetence and that is why I have no trust or respect for the fraudulent Bush administration or for its bogus war of choice. None of that has anything to do with whether or not I identify with any political party or ideology, so you would be wrong if you think this is coming from any kind of liberal extremism.

A dialog opened here could make a fascinating discussion, but first, you should try to give up any ideas you may have that conservatives and Republicans are all good and Democrats and liberals are all bad. They are like Fords and Chevrolets. They have all had good years and bad years. And you should try to accept some other facts now in evidence.

1. Bush lied the US into an unnecessary war. Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. The 9-11 attackers were primarily from the US "ally" Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden was and probably still is in Afghanistan. The Bushies ignored the Presidential Daily Briefing of August 7, 2001, entitled "Bin Laden determined to strike in the US."

2. There were no WMDs in Iraq. The uranium from Niger was a hoax based on forged Italian documents. The Bushies either knew this or should have known it. It was well known by intelligence agencies but was squelched because it didn't fit the Bush administration agenda of making war for profit.

3. Saddam Hussein, bad as he was, had no significant alliance with Al-Qaida or with religious extremists.

And if you think of yourself as a conservative, make a true comparison of traditional conservative values of efficiency and integrity with the non-values of the neo-cons. An honest examination should make it clear to anyone that there is far more con than conservatism in the failed neo-con ideology.

Bob, I wonder if you could imagine, if only for an instant, forgetting all the irrelevant politics and ideology of this, and concentrate on the absolute incompetence of Bush & Co. That alone should be enough to offend any true conservative.

iswhatitis............You are a disgusting pedafile; I hope the state in which your pathetic existence is bearly tolerated they have made provisions to keep your trifling butt away from children. It's clear close supervision needs to be in place, you should never be allowed to be alone with any child, you corroded moron!

quote "The pattern is consistent among all you spies, all you depraved Bolshevik propagandist;" /qoute

ustraitor.......Your stupidly is astounding. You being a poster child for Bolshevik propaganda actually change the content of a posted article and call it a quote. In your defective mind I have no doubt that you believe you retain the highest creditability. One can be sure that you are certainly capable of even greater stupidity.

The whole purpose for you and your kind is to attempt to make truth a lie, and lies the truth. You really believe you can divert attention away from the facts with your off the wall propaganda.

No one is intimated by the picture of the Edomite solders you fool. Is it true in your sick little rudimentary mind American patriots are now jihadist…right? Anyone who understands it’s international bankers/Israeli’s posing as an American Governmental institution called the Federal Reserve must be a jihadist… right? Anyone who understands how the American treasury as well as all income tax paying American are being robbed by Israeli bankers are jihadist… right?

Anyone who understands how these bankers not only financed 9-11, but also prepared/gloomed GWB through (Karl Rove) to loot the treasury and literally hand the government over to Israeli control they must be an jihadist is this correct idiot? The Israeli police state; this so-called democracy has had a long standing kidnap and torture policy is this not correct? A policy of assassination without due process of law is this not correct? A “just kill’em” policy using American made helicopters to bomb homes and vehicles despite the killing of innocent people do you want to try and deny this?

The Israelis are extremely hated throughout the whole middle eastern region as well as the world is this not true? Is it not true that America is also now hated for the Israeli policies adopted by the puppet GWB administration? Those who have an America first mind-set are not going anywhere and are standing firm against America being absorbed into a Israeli police state.

They want martial law to override the American constitution. The Talmudic Jew Chernoff has already been installed over the so-called dept of homeland security despite absolutely no qualifications for this bogus treason latent agency.

No 757 wreckage was found at the pentagon on 9-11. WTC building 7 collapsed in the middle of the afternoon without impact from any aircraft is this not true? Explosives and themite were set all throughout the twin towers before the implosion of these towers… go ahead we want you to deny this.

Is it not true the corporate news media (under Jewish control) has not mentioned any of these pertinent facts is this not true? 9-11 was designed to take away American rights, weaken the American constitution and help an New World Israeli takeover is this not true?

Wolfowitz now over the world bank. Israeli’s using the Americans to fight two wars based on theatrically engineered 9-11 stunt, and you attempt to divert attention toward the jihadist. You get the dumb American to fight all your enemies and you cannot lose…..right?

While American solders are dying you people are laughing all the way to the bank…is this not correct?

What really happened to all the billions from the American treasury put into this bogus war in Iraq? Is it stashed in Jihadist banks?

The cat is out the bag, and the cover has been blown for quite some time Bolshevik Edomite idiot!

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Why do you mention pedophilia so much?

Heckofajob, Gonzo. Another of Bush's incompetent, phony political hacks is about to go down the drain and into the sewer where he belongs. A GOP Senator from Oklahoma has called for Gonzales' resignation.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Senator_You_...to_be_0419.html

Heckofajob, Gonzo. Another of Bush's incompetent, phony political hacks is about to go down the drain and into the sewer where he belongs.

"Another conservative GOP Senator calls for Gonzales to resign:"





http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042007A.shtml

P.S., Limp Biscuit, your links REFERENCE THE SAME MAN, THE EXACT SAME GOP SENATOR FROM OK.

How lame are you that you do not even read you own Comminalist Network's virus spreading regurgitations of the exact same thing, only looping in a contnuious loop, on a different site?

Gonzales should not resign, he should stay on the job and continue to keep public attention focused on the dishonesty and incompetence of the Bush administration.

Many of us spend half our time wishing for things we want to have or to happen. Yet, if we didn't spend half our time wishing to cross these sea of wishes merely by standing and staring at the water and wishing our way across in a perpetual failure of wishful thinking that never does anything it could do or may do, as it is consumed by thinking little of what can be done and or what can not be done.-TRADER

P.S., Limp Biscuit, your links REFERENCE THE SAME MAN, THE EXACT SAME GOP SENATOR FROM OK.

How lame are you that you do not even read you own Comminalist Network's virus spreading regurgitations of the exact same thing, only looping in a contnuious loop, on a different site?