Alberto Gonzales is yet another fraudulent Bush administration thug that needs to be fired for dishonesty and incompetence.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/18/s...ied-under-oath/

Justice denied: as President Clinton has time after time made a mockery of his oath of office, his attorney general has followed suit - Janet Reno

Sept 1, 1998 by Robert H. Bork

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In the history of the Republic, the names of Bill Clinton and Janet Reno will be forever linked, a prospect that ought to appall Miss Reno. That is entirely due to her efforts to preserve the President from his own follies, to use a polite word. Bill Clinton heads what is probably the most corrupt Administration ever, while Miss Reno has been called the worst of all Clinton's Cabinet appointments. From his point of view, of course, she may be the best, which comes to much the same thing.

Miss Reno's only visible qualifications for the post of attorney general were two: she is a woman and she had been a prosecutor. The first characteristic was indisputable, although, in any non-feminized era, it would have been irrelevant. The second seemed heartening, but it did not prepare her for Washington. Coming from obscurity, she must have been caught off guard by the rampant corruption into which she was thrust. So varied and unceasing have been this Administration's infractions of law that Miss Reno resembles a desperate tennis player, running from side to side of the court and from net to baseline in a frantic effort to hold down the score. Unfortunately for her White House coach, she is becoming winded and wobbly-legged.

She was not in charge from the beginning. Upon taking office, in an unexplained departure from the practice of recent Administrations, Miss Reno suddenly fired all 93 U.S. attorneys. She said the decision had been made in conjunction with the White House. Translation: The President ordered it. ( Reno after Hiring Mr. Hubbell, Hillary's Clinton's Rose Law firm who was 18 months later indicted and convicted and then pardon on Clinton last day in Office, gave them 10 days to move out of their offices.


Just as the best place to hide a body is on a battlefield, the best way to be rid of one potentially troublesome attorney is to fire all of them. The U.S. attorney in Little Rock was replaced by a Clinton protege. the former was in midst of Indicting Reno's second in Charge MR. Hubble a long time friend of the Clintons and the associated with the Clintons and Madsion Savings and Loand andWhite Water scam.

The long-running Waco emergency that culminated in the deaths of eighty Branch Davidian men, women, and children again proved that Janet Reno was not in charge in the Justice Department. Webster Hubbell, Hillary's former law partner in Little Rock and Bill's man at Justice, coordinated tactics with the White House. The President did not even talk to his attorney general throughout the crisis.

At the time, President Clinton presented the move as something perfectly ordinary: "All those people are routinely replaced," he told reporters, "and I have not done anything differently." In fact, the dismissals were unprecedented: Previous Presidents, including Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter, had both retained holdovers from the previous Administration and only replaced them gradually as their tenures expired. This allowed continuity of leadership within the U.S. Attorney offices during the transition.

Equally extraordinary were the politics at play in the firings. At the time, Jay Stephens, then U.S. Attorney in Chicago, was investigating then Ways and Means Chairman Dan Rostenkowski, and was "within 30 days" of making a decision on an indictment. Mr. Rostenkowski, who was shepherding the Clinton's economic program through Congress, eventually went to jail on mail fraud charges and was later pardoned by Mr. Clinton.

Also at the time, allegations concerning some of the Clintons' Whitewater dealings were coming to a head. By dismissing all 93 U.S. Attorneys at once, the Clintons conveniently cleared the decks to appoint "Friend of Bill" Paula Casey as the U.S. Attorney for Little Rock. Ms. Casey never did bring any big Whitewater indictments, and she rejected information from another FOB, David Hale, on the business practices of the Arkansas elite including Mr. Clinton. When it comes to "politicizing" Justice, in short, the Bush White House is full of amateurs compared to the Clintons.

Throwing rocks while living in a glass house of hyprocisy is noless still hyprocisy shattered eh, comrade Code Pink???...

Thanks, Trader, for putting these idiot's reactions into perspective. YOu'd think they've got short-term memory loss or something the way they are going on about these farceful spurious cases the Leftist Democrats are bringing up. The pitifulness of the cases that are brought up show just how desperate they are to find something............and this is what they find!

You ignorant suckers for Bush's lies make interesting entertainment. Even Republicans can't defend Gonzales' incompetence, surely there is no way you can defend it, so you attack Clinton, which has nothing to do with Gonzalesgate. Even if Clinton was as bad as you claim, that doesn't let the crooked Republicans off the hook. The existence of one disaster does not justify the existence of another disaster. Like the dishonest and inept Rumsfeld, Gonzales will be thrown under the bus. He's unlikely to last a week without being fired. He just another of Bush's unqualified political hacks.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/White_Ho...zales_0319.html

Like the idiotic, vengeful and counterproductive outing of a covert CIA agent, this is nothing but a politically motivated hatchet job by the fraudulent Bushevics. It's not going to go away and it's even more evidence of Bush administration corruption. If the fired US attorneys, all appointed by Bush, had been fired for poor job performance, that is within their authority. But when competent and qualified prosecuting attorneys are removed in order to unlawfully keep criminal Republicans out of jail, or for not expediting prosecution of criminal Democrats, that is exactly the kind of sleazy scam we have come to expect from the Bush crime family.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/19/justic...ments-released/

Justice Department documents released. ABC News reports:




Uh...Clinton did it too!?

Oh, but, Mr. d2d2, how is then that the media is digging up dirt on Newt and calling it new? Could it be to make a a current story???? I'm merely doing the same. Telling old news as if it's new.

Surely an individual is as important as a corporation who decides what is news and isn't.

Something on the order of 70+ on average US attorneys are fired at will in favor of political appointies for decades by presidents, this one tries to "change the tone in Washington". Congrats to the dummy, scorched earth policy politics all of the time is all that is acceptable to Washington reporters. Turning out only the partisans rebuffing the Republican boss is political heresy.

Not carrying out the bosses policies is not only unprofessional it is reason to be discharged for performance. Changing the tone of politics in Washington never was a matter of treating the Washington beaureaucrats nicely, rather the tone of the political reportage sets the tone of the debate, too many people do not have access to anything else.

Comparisons of President Bush to Bolshevik communists are assinine. It is not possible to debate persons with so little historical perspective. I'll wait until they have read and understand the consequences of the Bolshevik revolution to those people that fought it. From my perspective it voluntarily enslaved the population that fought for it. 10s of Millions of the people that fought for it were killed to enforce the outcome. Damned shame they won a society in which they were eventually killed in order to pacify.

BUT, I'm sure D2D2 is so myopic as to believe the Bush presidency is the same to his world. Must suck to be him.

Isn't Gonzales the slimy Texas lawyer who, fraudulently got George W. Bush excused from jury duty, thereby avoiding the public revelation of Bush's DWI arrest? Or perhaps it was that other slimy Texas lawyer, Harriet Miers.

There is plenty of dirt that could be dug up on Newt, though I haven't heard much about that, even on Air America Radio. There's more dangerous dirt that requires our attention, namely, that ignorant, arrogant, incompetent liar-in-chief George W. Bush and his bungling lies that got the US into a disastrous war for profit, destabilizing the entire middle east, eliminating the possibility of peace between Palestine and Israel and directly causing a seven times increase in terrorism.

This crap cracks me up. I'm not a Bush fan, but the insinuations here are too good to pass up.

Isn't Bill Clinton the slimy lawyer that slimed the 2? (<2) year old's blue dress?

Isn't Hillary Clinton the slimy lawyer that will forgive any transgression by her husband in order to win his public support? How far away from the definition of whore is that?

The middle east was silent and peaceful before GW Bush took office, haaa haaaa haaa you goofy #####. GW Bush couldn't keep the Palistineans and Israelis from making a deal for peace any more than Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton effected the deals that never materialized.

Got anything to rebute what Roadster said?

No? Then simply attack Clinton and get away with addressing anything in his post!

In the word "news" the first three letters are the most important. Corporate monopolies manage and manipulate news as never before. Much of it should be called "olds" and much of it is trivial white trash crap like the Anna Nicole Smith death.

For the Bush crime family, individuals are nothing but pawns, nothing but collateral damage if killed or wounded. And if you call or write your Congressman, don't expect your opinion to count for much compared to the big corporations that can buy what they want from the payola US Congress. That's not government by and for the people, that's fascism.

Why yes Moon battery, I can.

Beyond Clinton’s legal right to do, even as alleged, under dubious motivation, what you moon bat's of lifelessness suppose and allege are but Gestapo Justice oddly only when Bush and his people do exactly the same thing.

The fact is in the end, as provided under law and authority, is the reality that what was done was equally lawful and under the authority of both the President and the Attorney General as well was what Clinton did.

Two, in the 3000 pages of Justice Department emails released, NOT ONE is from or to the Attorney General nor the President nor the White House, ALL, as testified by Gonzales thus far, are related to proving proving, as Gonzales said, the handling of the issue was delegated to lower level officials, the highest ranking one of which has resigned for making many mistakes in who was informed and about what.

Three, the stupidity of this all will show our Congress is as usual at very tip of the sword on this issue and will be shown to be often clueless in what it does by allowing all manners of items to be thrown into unrelated bills.

For example, today to cover up their own malfeasance, the US Senate voted to rectify the very law that made what Gonzales via what his people did, legal and appropriate. A lawfulness added in the Patriot Act in 2006. Add this to the fact that under law the President can fire any US Attorney for cause or no cause as he would choice. It shows the Business of the nation is becoming ignored while the politics of pundit stupidity continues at the detriment to us all.

Four, the White House has agreed to let Congress have all related White House documents and will also allow Congress to “only interview, not testify, as testimony would compromise Presidential Executive Privilege, a fight Congress will loose and or will take years to resolve in the Courts.
Mean Time the business of country is caught up in this Politics over nation, Sunni/Shia retribution of vendetta going on in Washington, leaving the State of the Nation’s most pressing problems unattended.

U.S. Senate passed a bill on Thursday afternoon that will roll back the unilateral authority of the attorney general to appoint U.S. attorneys without Senate confirmation. The Patriot Act Reauthorization Bill of 2005 removed the previous requirement of Senate confirmation of, or a 120 day time limit on interim U.S. attorneys. Instead the law was changed to, “A person appointed as United States attorney under this section may serve until the qualification of a United States Attorney for such district appointed by the President under section 541 of this title.”

This gave the attorney general not only the power to fire U.S. attorneys, but also to appoint replacements to unlimited terms with congressional confirmation or oversight. In essence, the Senate [I]vote restored Section 546 Title 28 of U.S. Code, which says that a, “person appointed as United States attorney under this section may serve until the earlier of the qualification of a United States attorney for such district appointed by the President under section 541 of this title; or the expiration of 120 days after appointment by the Attorney General under this section. If an appointment expires under subsection ©(2), the district court for such district may appoint a United States attorney to serve until the vacancy is filled. The order of appointment by the court shall be filed with the clerk of the court.”

By a tally of 94-2 the Senate voted to change the law back to what it was before the Patriot Act was reauthorized. “If you politicize the prosecutors, you politicize everybody in the whole chain of law enforcement,” said Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT). The House is expected to pass this bill when it takes it up at a later date. The change in appointment process for U.S. attorneys may have gone unnoticed if Gonzales and the White House had not fired eight U.S. attorneys, who had received positive evaluations last December.

Dumb and Dumber, seeing no evil but in others, finding lots evil within them. Can you spell Politico Smoke screen to cover up yet another Congressional OOPS!!

Smoke em, if you got em, Moon bats, you obviously need it to calm your hormonal over-reactions, as usual.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...SUN8&refer=home

Just because it doesn't say "From: Alberto Gonzo" doesn't mean that the Sampson e-mails don't involve conversation from Alberto to Sampson meant to be circulated in those e-mails.

I suppose dissolving Congress is now the next step, since for the life of me it doesn't seem like it has any other responsibility anymore.





Cue you accusing me of the oh-so-witty 'moonbatty' caricature.

Agreed about the trailtrash news about Smith. I think we are gaining ground here. So, you and I agree that digging up old news isn't new news? Including Newt?



I remember thinking the same thing when the previous guy was in office. You know..........the one that was impeached..............but never removed from office ? Talk about a crime. Now that is one.

President Gore does sound pretty rad right now.

That would have been the only bad thing about.

I've gotta go...............I'm about the throw up into the toilet.................ARGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!

(Retch!)



I think you and I have had this conversation before.........but, in case we haven't, Gore is such a Wus. Gag! He' entirely a figment of the liberal media hype. He and the Trashy Dix..........errrrr, I mean the Dizzy Dix, the Dixie Chix.

I'm happy to know you'd never name-call. Of course the insult makes no sense but it's still something you'd call me out for.

I knew you would say this, but I was ready for this apples/oranges reply, dear.

The namecalling to which I referred was to each other on this board. You're comparing apples and oranges, sweet.

If you guys have nothing to hide it shouldn't be that bad to testify under oath. You guys sure are terrified of that. (Also I never said anything about Alberto's authoring of the e-mails so you lose there.)


Former U.S. atty. for President Ronnie Reagan and Congressman Bob Barr:



Now where's Barr's Secret Socialist Club member card?


Also, the FBI admitted to abusing the Patriot Act so how is it a witch hunt?





Your own words state nothing about boardmembers.

You can't simply roll your eyes and think yourself correct.

ggnorm

Subpoena and Contempt Power of the 110th Imperial Congress.

A subpoena is a legally enforceable demand to produce information, whether it's oral testimony, documents or electronic information. If the person named in the subpoena doesn't comply with the order, he or she can either be hit with fines or even face jail time.

Congress' subpoena power is laid out the House and Senate's individual rule packages, which are allowed for in the Constitution, as well as through federal case law. The Constitution does not expressly provide powers for Congress to investigate, issue subpoenas or to punish for contempt.

Since subpoena power is authorized through the rules created by the House and Senate, the subpoenas have the same authority as if they were issued by the entire congressional body in which they originate.
For a committee to issue a subpoena, a majority must be present, although the power to authorize and issue subpoenas may be delegated to the committee chairman. Committee rules can vary the procedures for issuing subpoenas.

The Wednesday vote in the House subpanel authorizes Conyers to go ahead with the issuance. It will be up to him to decide whether to do so. He said that will be based on ongoing negotiations with the White House and their compliance.

The Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday is considering giving its chairman the same authority. Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., on Wednesday — while not ruling out the idea —suggested that subpoenas would make the investigation into the attorney firings longer rather than shorter, predicting it could take until 2009 before courts resolve the matter.

"If we have a confrontation between the president and the Congress and we go to court — which is the way these matters have been resolved if there can't be an accommodation — we face very, very long delays," he said.

President Bush has said he will agree to allow Miers, Rove and other officials to give Congress testimony, but he will not allow them to do so under oath and does not want transcripts of the private meetings, something Democrats are demanding.

Louis Fisher, a constitutional law specialist for the Library of Congress, said that should Conyers decide to go ahead and sign off on subpoenas and issue them, it could be a short time before Rove, Miers or anyone else would testify. The possibility of a contempt charge on someone's resume usually is enough to get them to comply, he said.

Fisher said that while the White House might be considering invoking executive privilege — the broad claim that members of the administration shouldn't have to testify because of constitutional separation of powers between Congress and the executive branch — the White House might have a hard time proving that.
For instance, Miers is no longer a member of the administration, drawing into question how clearly the lines of the executive branch are drawn. He also said that as recently as 2004, the White House backed off executive privilege claims when it allowed then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice to testify under oath before the Sept. 11 Commission.

Fisher said if Miers, Rove or anyone else chose to ignore the subpoenas they could be found in contempt, but the charge first would need to be put before a vote of the full House or Senate.

"It helps if there is some kind of bipartisan quality to it ... so it doesn't look like a totally partisan" effort, Fisher said.

Congressional staff would handle issuing the subpoenas. Once each subpoena is signed by the committee chairman, it is then brought in person to whomever is named in the subpoena. Congress, however, would need to turn to the Justice Department — in this case, one of the agency's under fire — to prosecute any contempt charges that could arise.

Average from Mar 2, thru Mar 14, 207

President Bush Job Approval

RCP Average

Approve-34.3%

Disapprove-60.0%

Spread-25.7%

Congressional Job Approval

RCP Average

Approve-30.8%-

Disapproval-58.4%
Spread-27.5%

Without the nexus of criminality even remotely implied as to the issues involved in THIS, the first of Dozens of Sunni/Shia vendetta of division and disunity.

Vendetta’s NOT leading the country FORWARD as promised, but BACKWARDS in focus, as those foolish vendetta in Iraq show.

Leading us, like them, not to resolving the countries problems but merely adding exasperation to them while the real issues of concrete resolutions for a better tomorrow remain unattended.

Sadly, the disunity of Me-ist narcissism is the rule of ever self-effecting fashion in our times, while the we-ist selflessness of past generations has become the genre of the passé, lost in the now unfashionable concept of unity for the greater good.

I am blind but see
I hear but am deaf
I say zilch but talk
Its to hard I say, but
Bury me here anyway.


Janet Reno Analysis of the limitations of Congressional Subpoena and contempt powers give great insight into the fight these Vendetta-o-cracts have before them..

http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/sine.htm

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20020206.html

http://www.answers.com/topic/contempt-of-congress

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:1Mkb9...clnk&cd=1&gl=us

http://www.answers.com/topic/contempt

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/usc...ection_192.html

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20061120&s=rosen112006

Why are the criminal ba$tards in the White House trying to hide the truth?

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/193

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Iglesias_Why...fired_0321.html

And - just like the 18 minute gap in the Nixon tapes...

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/18day_in_Jus...mails_0321.html

So, are you interested in what I meant, or some legalistic snafu you think you caught me in? Do you just like to argue, or do you want to talk?

Don't mention my rolling my eyes. You haven't even responded to my answer to your question you asked about why I believed the terrorist's confession he made. You dodged my answer (after mocking me) by asking who Grizz is. OK, Grizz. Answer.

You can't ask a question and then dodge it and think YOURSELF correct, either.

White House maintains "Right to Lie" - Video:

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/#49626

Now suppose there is nothing in the end;


Bush plays 'Texas Hold 'em' winner take all!

I see your threat of subpoenas and raise you;

Two years of legal battles,

The risk of new court ruling on executive privilege turning sharply against the congressional gaines made against that Privilage given by the courts via Nixon and Clinton; and,

in the end, if things don't go well, to only face a last minute capitulation giving the records and testimony during the last few months of my term, taking many months to conclude and, then, if the worst happens, face a Presidential Pardon of all involved, thus wasting time while Washington burns down around itself.

That is. if anything is there at all which is illegal...

Gonzales: "I'm not going to resign"


Gonzales' persecutors blinded by rage

POSTED: 3:49 p.m. EDT, March 22, 2007
By Ruben Navarrette Jr.

Special to CNN

SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) -- In the flap over the ousted U.S. attorneys, Alberto Gonzales has been hoisted up as a political piñata.

The nation's first Hispanic attorney general is being pressured to resign by -- pick 'em -- Democrats trying to make hay, an elite media that long opposed him, civil libertarians who condemn administration policy on detainees and wiretaps, conservatives who think Gonzales is too liberal, and liberals who think he's too conservative.

The list even includes a pair of immigrant-baiting members of Congress -- Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-California and Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colorado -- who fell out with Gonzales over the prosecution of two ex-border patrol agents.

Leading this lynch mob are white liberals who resent Gonzales because they can't claim the credit for his life's accomplishments and because they can't get him to curtsy. Why should he? Gonzales doesn't owe them a ###### thing.

Democratic politicians love posing with mariachis as they nibble chips and salsa on Cinco De Mayo. But it was a Republican -- George W. Bush -- who made history by nominating a Hispanic to serve as attorney general.

Gonzales' persecutors are blind with rage, or maybe just blind. Surely they see that the push to dump the U.S. attorneys came from White House political adviser Karl Rove.

The attorney general does have one person in his corner. President Bush came out swinging Tuesday, insisting that Gonzales has his support and warning Democrats not to go on "a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants."

I've interviewed Gonzales twice since he became attorney general. During the last interview, which took place three weeks ago in San Diego -- that is, before the controversy erupted -- I asked about the firings of the U.S. attorneys. He told me what he has told others: It was about performance.

"I have an obligation...to ensure that we have the best people we can have in here," he said. "All I will say is that the decisions that were made...were based upon performance, and there are many factors that go into that."

An avid baseball fan, Gonzales even pitched an analogy. "What I care about is -- are we trading up?"

As a political columnist, I cover liars for a living. And yet, I'd say Gonzales is pretty much as advertised by his old friend, President Bush: an honorable public servant.

He comes across as a straight shooter. What you see is what you get. He is also human, and he makes mistakes.

It may be that he made a whopper here in trusting his No. 2 not to hand over the hiring and firing of U.S. attorneys to a political hack like Rove. But then, Gonzales' critics aren't after the truth. They're after him.

Well, if they succeed in running him off without a fair hearing, many Hispanics won't forget the shoddy treatment afforded this grandson of Mexican immigrants. You watch. Democrats will have to intensify their efforts to win Hispanic votes in the 2008 elections. And there's not that much chips and salsa on the planet.

Navarrette Jr. got only one thing right - Rove is a political hack. Notice how many true conservatives are distancing themselves from the Bush debacle, trying to save any remaining Republican credibility, and how the Bush crime family thugs are blaming each other as the Grand Oil Party meltdown continues.

Sorry, I don't notice this at all. What fairy tales are you reading, other than the liberal sites? They've been giving out disinformation for the last .....................ever since the election of Bush's first term, during the entire war, and since his second election.

And well you should be sorry you hadn't noticed this at all, because while you weren't looking, demagogs in the White house have turned your good old conservative values upside down. The Bush crime family has no use for the dignity, civility, honesty, accountability or efficiency of true conservatism. The crooked Bushies have no respect for true democracy, for honest elections, for human rights, for science, for the law or the Constitution. There is certainly nothing inherently conservative in Bush's vast incompetence or in his preference for appointing political hacks instead of experienced and qualified public servants. And there's nothing inherently liberal about recognizing the obvious. Bush is by far the worst president in US history and his disastrous war for profit is the worst military blunder since Napoleon's invasion of Russia.

The sky is falling, the Sky is falling, the sky has fell and we are all in hell!!


A Brave New World of Political cowardly Internet Skulduggery?

Anti-Clinton Video Shows Ease of Attack In the Computer Age

By Howard Kurtz and Jose Antonio Vargas
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, March 23, 2007; Page A03

The instant popularity of an attack video that mocked Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) prompted plenty of talk this week about how an ordinary citizen can influence political discourse by tapping into the power of the YouTube culture.

But the unmasking of the filmmaker as an employee of a company on the payroll of Clinton's Democratic presidential rival, Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), raises questions about whether the more old-fashioned art of political chicanery was at play.

Phil de Vellis, who worked for the firm that designed Obama's Web site, Blue State Digital, says no one at the company or in Obama's camp knew he had made the video depicting Clinton as the droning voice of a totalitarian establishment. Obama and his aides say they had no idea who was behind the 74-second ad, which has been viewed online more than 2 million times, and which closes by flashing Obama's Web address.

Blue State yesterday provided a Feb. 10 e-mail in which de Vellis boasted of his role in the Obama effort: "Check out Barack's new website. . . . One shameless look at me plug, I designed the MyBarackObama toolbox that is on the front page and all the sidebar pages."

Thomas Gensemer, managing director of Blue State, a District-based online strategy firm, said he fired de Vellis Wednesday night. "This is an unfortunate situation all around," he said. Gensemer said his firm has provided only technical assistance, not creative services, to the senator's campaign. Joe Rospars, Obama's new media director, is on leave from Blue State.

Obama spokesman Bill Burton declined to criticize the video. He said Blue State "handled it internally and we're satisfied with their response," adding: "We can't be held responsible for everything a supporter says and does. . . . We don't hold our opponents responsible for any of a number of negative YouTube ads up there about Senator Obama."

Howard Wolfson, Clinton's communications director, said he finds it "disappointing that we all believed this ad was made by an average citizen expressing himself or herself, and that turned out not to be the case." Asked if the Obama camp should disavow the video, Wolfson said: "That's their decision."

De Vellis, 33, stirred controversy last year when he was in charge of Internet strategy for the successful Senate campaign of Ohio Democrat Sherrod Brown. After anonymously posted criticism of Brown's Democratic primary opponent began appearing on local Web sites, an Ohio blogger reported that the writer's Internet address matched that of de Vellis. The Brown campaign acknowledged its involvement, but de Vellis denied posting the comments.

De Vellis has served as deputy director of online communications for Wal-Mart Watch, an anti-Wal-Mart group originally funded by the Service Employees International Union.

The uncovering of de Vellis, who used the screen name "ParkRidge47," a reference to Clinton's 1947 birth in Park Ridge, Ill., was a digital-age detective story. Liberal blogger Arianna Huffington said she had 30 staffers contributing to a message board of tips and technical sleuthing that eventually led to a source who confirmed de Vellis's involvement. She then called de Vellis and persuaded him to confess on the Huffington Post.

"The specific point of the ad was that Obama represents a new kind of politics, and that Senator Clinton's 'conversation' is disingenuous," de Vellis wrote. "And the underlying point was that the old political machine no longer holds all the power." De Vellis did not respond to an e-mail request for comment yesterday.

Comments keep pouring in to YouTube, some linking Obama to the video ("This was the worse thing Obama could have done," one user wrote yesterday), others praising its ingenuity ("I love that ad! Hillary Clinton is as much a part of the machine as Bush . . . Reagan."). The spot has also spawned imitators, such as a five-minute mash-up video titled "Vote Smart: a warning to all women about Hillary Clinton," which has been viewed more than 230,000 times.

"If I were a traditional media strategist, an old-school guy, I'd think, 'See, you can't trust these crazy kids,' " said Jonah Seiger, who heads the online strategy firm Connections Media. "If one of my employees did this, I'd be outraged. It would reflect badly on my company. It can't help but reflect badly on my client. . . . There's no question that this causes embarrassment to Obama."

The imbroglio highlighted not just how the power to push a message has shifted from big campaign organizations to lone operators with rudimentary video skills, but how technology makes subterfuge easier to accomplish -- and easier to detect.

"You can be as anonymous as you want on the Internet," Huffington said. "But the minute you create something powerful that has impact, people are going to find out who it is."


D2D2's Neo-liberal Gobbelistic Nazism at its extremist finest!!

Being fired is just a slap on the wrist, true justice needs to be employed. All the time and money wasted on Clinton for an extramarital affair was a true circus, now we have an situation that is much different, and much worst; which warrants the same type or even more government scrutiny. It's amazing how the crinimals in this administration time after time, demonstrate how they think they are above the law. They never follow the rule of law, they continue to ignore, twist, misuse and abuse the intent of the law. The American populace and the world is demanding justice. They clearly have something to hide; they know it , and the world knows it.

When considering the the two stolen elections that put these facsist in office. How they used 9-11 (something they engineered) to decieve the world into believing they had justification for stripping the laws which protect Americans, as well as engaging in two war which planners knew would bankrupt the country. It really needs to be a grand jury setup, and the treason needs to be dealt with! It's much better that they go down then this nation and world be put into turmoil.

It's time to play the trump card.... No wreckage of flight 77 was found at the pentagon on 9-11, a grand jury can start with that! George Bush does not own this government and its time to show him.

All the instigators who knew this installed president has the pathology of a spoiled child has duped him into believing he really owns the government. Herod the king of the Edomites is who they want GWB to imulate. They actually had official plaque at news conferances calling Crawford Texas the "Western White House". Karl rove being the point man, and these people are truthly working to supplant/take-over the American government. Bill gates is already exposing the sedition by having the heads of state from communist china bypass the white house and meet with him, along with fanning the flames of fire concerning immigration through meeting with Mexican heads of state. Those who financed the bolshevik revolution and brought brutal communism to Russia after murdering the tsar are now this same group of people attempting to do the same thing here in America!

You still think Bubba was impeached and disbarred for humping some little girl's mouth?


######... your head must spin 720° on both axis. You might try backing it up 180° on the vertical axis for a bit. Thankfully the internet has an intrinsic spittal shield, swear to Herod there hasn't been that much spittal on the monitor since the Edomites invested in GW's campaign to become Tsar of Mexico (when does the voting start in that election? Or is that post simply purchased with 2000 year old bonds? It's not clear in your post how that office will be stolen.), other than Chris Matthews spitting on his guests that is.

Father Gates also added spell check to some of his ill gotten properties, when you figure out how to use them will you let me know?

I have to admit that I have not been as entertained by any other post as this one Zeb. But, if you are really as unhappy here as it appears from your post there are intercontinental airplanes (east to west) and highways (north to north or south) that hold the promise to transport you to places more suited to your ideology. Places that elections are really stolen or meaningless (Jimmy Carter has been seen in a couple recently), power is really handed down from father to son, and Bill Gates is a much more powerful influence than a simple American voter (he's more influential here for that matter). I make this plea to you in order to preserve your very survival as I am worried you will soon turn to salt if you remain entangled in GW's historical perversion.

I look forward to your letters to home.

iswhatitis.......It’s amazing how your scatter brain does not function; if you’re incapable of any worthy contribution to American society, what exactly is your purpose here? You never comment on the facts put forth on the message boards because you are not American, you are an infestation of traitors bent on tyranny.

This country is for Americans, not degenerates such as you and your kind who keep trying Americans patience. The colossal stupidity stemming from what you have left of a brain seems to make you think you have the upper hand in this country. After all it took to build this country Americans are not the ones to be leaving, frankly who in the hell do you think you are to even suggest this pea brain folly? No; you Bolshevik spies with all your off the wall propaganda will be leaving in a number of ways.

Americans are not looking for problems, but if you think millions of American all over this country don’t know what your up too, think again if you have enough attention span left to remember the prior sentence. I’m very happy in my country. I’m happy with the Constitution, the bill of rights, the American standard of democracy and the ideals which have made this country great. Freedom is what we know here in this country, it is all we know!

You people seem to think your cleaver enough to take it. I suggest you find some scum pond to crawl into, with your “they’ll greet us as liberators attitude”. This is not Russia under the Tsar, and all the great wealth you reprobates have amassed from usury worldwide will not change your destiny in the least bit. If some maintenance is required to preserve this democracy be careful what you wish for you might get it, and keep getting it.

Prophecy has already revealed how your story ends or what you thought was the end. Revelation 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand [and] six hundred furlongs.

Huh?

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Jon_Stewart_...im_of_0323.html

Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz on November 28, 1962, (45 going on 12)in New York City but grew up in Lawrence Township, New Jersey.

His father, Donald Leibowitz, is a physicist at The College of New Jersey and his mother, Marian, is an educational consultant. His parents divorced when he was nine years old. He and his older brother, Larry, stayed with their mother.

While attending Lawrence High School, he was a member of the school band as a French horn player. Stewart has said that [U]"he was subjected to considerable harassment from some of his classmates as he was the only Jewish student."

(Oddly leaving out that some of class mates from those days in High School and at William and Mary recall he was "harassed" mainly because, one, like as he admits today, he smoked and today smokes heavy amounts of marijuana. While at William Mary, he coached at Gloschester on the Pensulia of Virgina between Newport News and Williamsburg Virginia where is repetation has a heavy poy smoker is still recalled to this day.

Two, he was then, as now, an overzealot radical leftist and some recall a big time prick, always haruanging and critisizing others with a god complex of extreme zealotry, clearly bred in a self sense of inferiority, which, oddly seems very apparent in form in his one sided slam the man humor disqused not so well as NOT leftist political dogma hackery.

His inferiority and god complex is futher evidenced by his rejection of his Jewishness which he obviously is ashamed of, since he legally changed his name from Leibowitz to Stewart, presumedly so he could bully others as he was bullied as non-jewish true dreeb and geek he was and still is.

Explaining much, a geek then, still a geek now, but now the bully with a way to bully and be the true leftist zealot of a prick he was and is.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/009490.php

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/200...ight/index.html

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Oped_Dont_ju...peach_0324.html

I try to see things from your regurgitating friends point of view, but really, maybe you and they can, but I, and most humans, can not stick their head up my A** that far!!!

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/25/w...r-point-for-us/

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/mar2007/dems-m24.shtml

Some rats know when to get off a sinking ship, others do not.

"...Congressional Republicans do not trust their president to protect them. ...'incompetent' is also being used by GOP members to describe the Bush administration in general." Columnist Robert Novak

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Novak_I_have...ident_0326.html

It was satire simpleton. You can't pull your head out of hades long enough to comprehend a not so freindly jab without traitorous infidels bringing the world to an end. Lay off the Espresso Red Bull lattes for a couple minutes and your head will catch up with your a-hole....

or not. Could be excessive riddlin or not enough sun light.

BUT I'm dying to know, do you really think Bubba was impeached for humping a little girl's mouth? Concentrate, it's a simpleton question and has nothing to do with Revelations or my existence heralding the end of the earth. My scatter brain didn't hear the answer, but certainly heard your assertion.

Olbermann Does Attorneygate - Video X 2:

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/#49804

Alberto the rat is too dishonest and too dumb to get off the sinking ship by resigning. How long can it be until, like the inept Rumsfeld, he's thrown overboard by the crooked, lying scum in the White House?

d2, do you always get up mad in the morning?

The only reason you don't like Gonzales is that he's not a part of political spectrum, correct?

If he "got off the sinking ship" as you call it, you would have problems with that. If he doesn't, you have problems with that.

The only lying scum I see is not in the White House.

iswhatitis.........Reality is not exactly a strong point for those who at all cost avoid truth. Lying and deception is what they have become accustom too, something in which they find solace and comfort. It’s no surprise to me that fallacy, satire, ambiguity, grey areas, secrecy is the environment lying reprobates require.

Your whole mission is to try and make the truth a lie, and a lie the truth. However when it’s all said and done truth and justice still prevails.
The great adversary of truth will never tell you how the story ends.

When you speak of the end of the world do you even know what you’re talking about?

Prophecy reveals the world does not end; what ends is the adversary’s version of the so-called new world order. His bogus world order build on usury, all manner of lies, all manner of murder, all manner of deception, and all manner of torture will go straight to hell with him. My point is the adversary already knows, and expects this; Satan and his demons are already immortal. What those that work with him and benefit from his works don’t understand is they go down to the bowels of hell with him.

The question then becomes how can a human being withstand the extreme heat and the intense pain of hell?

This has been revealed in the details all the time. The original plan for the first two human beings which lived in the garden of paradise was that they be immortal, just as Almighty God who created them is immortal. "Death was the punishment, not the intent".
It was Satan which deceived them out of their innocence. For before the deception the first two human being had no knowledge of evil.

My whole point is the original plan was only setback not disannulled, which means just as the prophets have foretold our fate as mortals is to become immortal. In others word death is only a temporary condition. Those who go down with Satan will be known as the living dead. The process is called the second death, or living death.

This truth has nothing to do with satire; hell will exist right here on earth. No one who is dead has gone to heaven or hell, for these two conditions will exist here on earth. Those who are now dead will remain dead until almighty God raises them for the Judgment.
All those not found in the Lambs book of life will burn in Hell.

The location is hell could possibly be the Dead Sea and surrounding area.
The reasons for this speculation are:
1. The Dead Sea is the lowest point on earth and still sinking.
2. The earth’s crust which retains the magma located beneath this sea is thinning out.
3. The salt and sulfur present in the area combined with intense heat, and the richness of oxygen at that level could be some of the ingredients of brimstone.
4. The Dead Sea sits on a fault line.
5. The land of Edom, Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboim, and Zoar are all in this area.

After Satan and all his wicked children all those who delight themselves in evil are put away… peace, joy, and gladness will be what the son of God and the saints bring to the earth. This would be the end of one era and the beginning of another; not the end of the world, only the end of Satan’s reign in the world.
Being penny wise, and pound foolish in terms of one immortality is a horrible trade-off.
In that day they will truly know why satan is called the Devil.
Be careful the questions do ask; you might get an answer.

I don't get up mad in the AM though I do have a good reason to be angry about that lying shrub in the White House and the corrupt, fascist ripoff the US Government has become. I'd have no problem with the firing or resignation of Gonzales. It would be just one more of Bush's many lying, inept political hacks down the drain and, with any luck, into a septic tank or a prison where they deserve to rot.

And I'm an independent, not a liberal or conservative, not a Democrat or Republican. I have no political spectrum, only contempt, ridicule and insults for the arrogant, corrupt, self-serving Bush family of criminals.

You're just another vitriolic Bush-hating lemming, hardly very independent.

Get some help.