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Judge dismisses lawsuit against Rumsfeld


WASHINGTON - Former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld cannot be tried on allegations of torture in overseas military prisons, a federal judge said Tuesday in a case he described as "lamentable."( as in Bad, deplorable and unfortunate)

This is a lamentable case," Hogan began his 58-page opinion Tuesday.

No matter how appealing it might seem to use the courts to correct allegations of severe abuses of power, Hogan wrote, government officials are immune from such lawsuits. Additionally, foreigners held overseas are not normally afforded U.S. constitutional rights.

"Despite the horrifying torture allegations," Hogan said, he could find no case law supporting the lawsuit, which he previously had described as unprecedented.

Allowing the case to go forward, Hogan said in December, might subject government officials to all sorts of political lawsuits. Even Osama bin Laden could sue, Hogan said, claiming two American presidents threatened to have him murdered.

"There is no getting around the fact that authorizing monetary damages remedies against military officials engaged in an active war would invite enemies to use our own federal courts to obstruct the Armed Forces' ability to act decisively and without hesitation," Hogan wrote Tuesday.


Had the Rumsfeld lawsuit been allowed to go forward, attorneys for the ACLU might have been able to force the Pentagon to disclose what officials knew about abuses such as those at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and what was done to stop it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/detainee_abuse_...jZtH.5e85Ks0NUE


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That is exactly what our resident moon bats and their extremist friends want, to eat us from the inside outward. Yet in every case, be it, in Germany, this one ,or about Gitomo and or the so called "Illegal war" they fail to have the inanity of comprehension that regurgitated net-ober-nanny supposition, hatred and despondency due to repeated failures is not the nexus for a perspective on reality, fact and or legality, thus in that usual inanity, they fail to comprehend, as hard as they may try not to with every failure, we are not the bad guys in this fight for our civilization, they and their friends who they defend are!
Nomad
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"Despite the horrifying torture allegations," Hogan said,


Since when have judges predetermined a case based on "allegations"? Is that not what a jury is for? And a judge adding an adjective to an allegation? This scumbag is a liberal pawn with at least some sense of self preservation. He is a true liberal, doesn't have the balls to act on how he really feels so he exonerates Rumsfeld with a ton of caveats.

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Fit2BThaied
QUOTE (Nomad @ Mar 30 2007, 12:18 PM) *
Since when have judges predetermined a case based on "allegations"? Is that not what a jury is for? And a judge adding an adjective to an allegation? This scumbag is a liberal pawn with at least some sense of self preservation. He is a true liberal, doesn't have the balls to act on how he really feels so he exonerates Rumsfeld with a ton of caveats.

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A judge can judge anything he wishes. This judge apparently is expressing a formal opinion based upon the allegation itself, saying that the allegation is about horrifying torture. The case cannot be heard, no matter how horrid the torture. Imagine if one of your loved ones was in fact tortured, horribly, and you had no recourse. Oh, never mind - that would involve having compassion and imagination.
ustrader
QUOTE (Fit2BThaied @ Mar 30 2007, 07:02 PM) *
A judge can judge anything he wishes. This judge apparently is expressing a formal opinion based upon the allegation itself, saying that the allegation is about horrifying torture. The case cannot be heard, no matter how horrid the torture. Imagine if one of your loved ones was in fact tortured, horribly, and you had no recourse. Oh, never mind - that would involve having compassion and imagination.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwAtNILh6uY
Fit2BThaied
Sorry, ustrader, but I don't view videos by internet here (takes too long; too slow). Anyway, I hadn't noticed that Nomad had exhibited much compassion or imagination. I haven't always been too compassionate myself.
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