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QUOTE (David_R @ Aug 9 2007, 02:37 PM) 
This is not spam. I am trying to make a deal with Phil to sell me the forum or put a banner link on top for the
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Phil, I own dozens of web sites with page rank. Just put the banner on top and I will reciprocate with good links that from sites to help your commercial enterprises. We spoke already, so just put the link and/or banner. But a banner is better.
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Phil, I own dozens of web sites with page rank. Just put the banner on top and I will reciprocate with good links that from sites to help your commercial enterprises. We spoke already, so just put the link and/or banner. But a banner is better.
Darn! There goes another site I won't be frequenting. See my post on your other thread, David R.
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Aug 9 2007, 03:10 PM)
Darn! There goes another site I won't be frequenting. See my post on your other thread, David R.
I saw your post, My Forum is actually more of a right wing political forum. It is not a leftie hangout.
One of our more active members is deportliberals. Reaganista just joined. While our most famous member is RichClem who is known is RushClem.
QUOTE (David_R @ Aug 10 2007, 12:34 AM)
I saw your post, My Forum is actually more of a right wing political forum. It is not a leftie hangout.
One of our more active members is deportliberals. Reaganista just joined. While our most famous member is RichClem who is known is RushClem.
One of our more active members is deportliberals. Reaganista just joined. While our most famous member is RichClem who is known is RushClem.
You will find that people like Solo will only hang out where her wolf pack resides. Cheers, for reaching out and going beyond the ordinary.
Also, I already am a member.
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Aug 10 2007, 05:56 AM)
You will find that people like Solo will only hang out where her wolf pack resides. Cheers, for reaching out and going beyond the ordinary.
Also, I already am a member.
Also, I already am a member.
#1. Don't have a wolf pack.
#2. Like to be treated politely even when disagreed with, which has not been my experience on liberal sites I've been on.
#3. You've forgotten that I've come to your rescue several times, Grizz...........despite the presence of the "wolf pack" you imagine to be mine.
#4. You miss the point it seems made by David..........this isn't a liberal site, anywayz.
#5. What's up with you?
QUOTE (David_R @ Aug 10 2007, 11:34 AM)
I saw your post, My Forum is actually more of a right wing political forum. It is not a leftie hangout.
One of our more active members is deportliberals. Reaganista just joined. While our most famous member is RichClem who is known is RushClem.
One of our more active members is deportliberals. Reaganista just joined. While our most famous member is RichClem who is known is RushClem.
You are just a flat out lair. Herr David R.
I joined this very site of yours. I made one post, disagreeing only as to the topic of Iraq circa Vietnam, making no personal references to any one nor even addressing them at all. I merely spoke in factual rebuttal to an uninformed nay mongering that was rampant on the thread.
The next post after mine, was, "this guy will not be around very long", and them, the next post, was a moderator, likely you, saying "yeah!"
I was immediately banned then and there....
So please don't try to spin this like your forums are not as imbrued in likeminded moon battery as the Daily Kos, a place where nay, hate and elitists mongering is rampantly the preferred pejorative. Sought and derived in as much misinformation as information driven by a dogmatic Stalinists mantra and idiom.
The Stalinist's intolerance and inbreeding going on your forums is worst than "cousin breeding" in an Appalachian Valley in the 1930's.
It is a habit your ilk has become accomplished at, righteous self-inflated superlatives accompany by Stalinists like behavior towards those that disagree with your Stalinist's trot dictums of elitist trite and self-assumed pre-eminence.
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Only those who have paid a Price for a thing know the real Price. Oddly, in this age of self-appreciative narcissism and Kos minded Schadenfreude zealotry, many presume they know, in opiate’s of opine, the price, having never opportune paying any price of and for that thing. - Trader
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Aug 10 2007, 03:00 PM)
#4. You miss the point it seems made by David..........this isn't a liberal site, anywayz.
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Should I Join? Anyone who understands that everyone should participate in the democratic process, your voice really does count, and communication is critical to solving problems. My Forum is primarily for self-described liberals, progressives, greens, leftists, socialists, etc.. However, in the interest of democracy - and a robust exchange of political ideas - we allow conservatives to join, provided they abide by our terms.
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Aug 10 2007, 01:45 PM)
OK. So, you've proven that David is a liar..........are you saying this is a good example of why to join this liberal forum? If so, then you've just proven one of my other points...#2. Hello, Trader. You've been missed.
USTrader, welcome back. I hope you'll stay around.
QUOTE (David_R @ Aug 9 2007, 02:37 PM)
This is not spam. I am trying to make a deal with Phil to sell me the forum or put a banner link on top for the
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Phil, I own dozens of web sites with page rank. Just put the banner on top and I will reciprocate with good links that from sites to help your commercial enterprises. We spoke already, so just put the link and/or banner. But a banner is better.
Click Here
Phil, I own dozens of web sites with page rank. Just put the banner on top and I will reciprocate with good links that from sites to help your commercial enterprises. We spoke already, so just put the link and/or banner. But a banner is better.
But david, you forgot to tell these folks what you did to the core members of your board.
Granted they might have pushed the envelope a bit, but you no longer have a liberal forum. I don't know these folks but I doubt they want to get mixed up in that free-for-all. I can't believe what has gone on there.QUOTE
While our most famous member is RichClem who is known is RushClem.
Tell them why Clem is so "famous" David. Tell them how many core members, and some of the newer members like me he drove off the board.
Full disclosure David.
QUOTE ("SoloNav")
OK. So, you've proven that David is a liar..........are you saying this is a good example of why to join this liberal forum? If so, then you've just proven one of my other points...#2.
Just wanted you to know, Solo. Didn't want to see you go in there to get your feelings hurt.
I, too, do not go in there to post to often myself, believe it or not.
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Aug 11 2007, 07:07 PM)
Just wanted you to know, Solo. Didn't want to see you go in there to get your feelings hurt.
I, too, do not go in there to post to often myself, believe it or not.
I, too, do not go in there to post to often myself, believe it or not.
Thanks, Grizz. 'preciate it.
QUOTE (David_R @ Aug 10 2007, 12:34 AM)
I saw your post, Liberal View is actually more of a right wing political forum. It is not a leftie hangout.
One of our more active members is deportliberals. Reaganista just joined. While our most famous member is RichClem who is known is RushClem.
One of our more active members is deportliberals. Reaganista just joined. While our most famous member is RichClem who is known is RushClem.
Having gone and looked over your forum David, I note that you are much more,..........and less, than you present yourself to be. You state that it is "not a leftie hangout", yet you have an entire section dedicated to "Liberals Only". I see none of the other sites dedicated to "Righties Only". And to make it even more blatent, you actually have a thread, on that section, in which you attempt to get your fellow liberals(?) to report anyone posting on that 'so called' exclusive section, so they can have their status changed to "non-liberal". What does this remind one of being?
Here is what you state.
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Conservatives, Libertarians, and everyone uncomfortable with the label "Liberal" for themselves are requested to email private message me with their username so we can change their member status from "member" to "non-Liberal."
If you see a non-Liberal poster who is posting in the Liberals Only Area or who is posting in the appropriate Debate section yet their Group descriptor is still "member" - please private message me with their username so I can change their member status.
Members of the Liberal Forum have posting rights in the Liberals Only Area, whereas non-Liberals are locked out. Members also may receive a Liberal Forum newsletter or announcements from time to time that non-Liberals will not receive.
If you see a non-Liberal poster who is posting in the Liberals Only Area or who is posting in the appropriate Debate section yet their Group descriptor is still "member" - please private message me with their username so I can change their member status.
Members of the Liberal Forum have posting rights in the Liberals Only Area, whereas non-Liberals are locked out. Members also may receive a Liberal Forum newsletter or announcements from time to time that non-Liberals will not receive.
Does this mean that as a genuine, 100%, unadultrated Liberal of the 19th century variety, that I would be labeled a "non-Liberal", when I would perhaps be the only True Liberal posting there? And in fact, what you and your minions label 'liberal' are really nothing more than rehashed Fascists. And you are practicing the very thing that gives Fascists the terrible name they deserve. You are attempting to label 'so called' non-liberals as different from the rest of the group. Reminds me of the NSDAP of the 1930s, where all Jews were labeled "Juden" on a special arm band, so the rest of the German Citizens would know that they were inferiour citizens.
In fact you liberals are really Fascists, disguised as something that you are not. You are Collectivists, and you would exclude other's right to honestly express their opinion, because you wish not to engage it. And that is your right, since you forum is YOUR site. However, it is worse than hypocracy to say one thing and then actually do another.
I have shown time after time, even here when I used to post on this site, that almost the entire left in this country are really Fascists, who indignately disclaim such, but acually follow the ideology line almost to a "T".
Fasciism Is Leftist
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Conclusions
Virtually all of the specific economic policies advocated by the Italian and German fascists of the 1930s have also been adopted in the United States in some form, and continue to be adopted to this day. Sixty years ago, those who adopted these interventionist policies in Italy and Germany did so because they wanted to destroy economic liberty, free enterprise, and individualism. Only if these institutions were abolished could they hope to achieve the kind of totalitarian state they had in mind.
Many American politicians who have advocated more or less total government control over economic activity have been more devious in their approach. They have advocated and adopted many of the same policies, but they have always recognized that direct attacks on private property, free enterprise, self-government, and individual freedom are not politically palatable to the majority of the American electorate. Thus, they have enacted a great many tax, regulatory, and income-transfer policies that achieve the ends of economic fascism, but which are sugar-coated with deceptive rhetoric about their alleged desire only to “save” capitalism.
American politicians have long taken their cue in this regard from Franklin D. Roosevelt, who sold his National Recovery Administration (which was eventually ruled unconstitutional) on the grounds that “government restrictions henceforth must be accepted not to hamper individualism but to protect it.”[40] In a classic example of Orwellian doublespeak, Roosevelt thus argued that individualism must be destroyed in order to protect it.
Now that socialism has collapsed and survives nowhere but in Cuba, China, Vietnam, and on American university campuses, the biggest threat to economic liberty and individual freedom lies in the new economic fascism. While the former Communist countries are trying to privatize as many industries as possible as fast as they can, they are still plagued by governmental controls, leaving them with essentially fascist economies: private property and private enterprise are permitted, but are heavily controlled and regulated by government.
As most of the rest of the world struggles to privatize industry and encourage free enterprise, we in the United States are seriously debating whether or not we should adopt 1930s-era economic fascism as the organizational principle of our entire health care system, which comprises 14 percent of GNP. We are also contemplating business-government “partnerships” in the automobile, airlines, and communications industries, among others, and are adopting government-managed trade policies, also in the spirit of the European corporatist schemes of the 1930s.
The state and its academic apologists are so skilled at generating propaganda in support of such schemes that Americans are mostly unaware of the dire threat they pose for the future of freedom. The road to serfdom is littered with road signs pointing toward “the information superhighway,” “health security,” “national service,” “managed trade,” and “industrial policy.”
Virtually all of the specific economic policies advocated by the Italian and German fascists of the 1930s have also been adopted in the United States in some form, and continue to be adopted to this day. Sixty years ago, those who adopted these interventionist policies in Italy and Germany did so because they wanted to destroy economic liberty, free enterprise, and individualism. Only if these institutions were abolished could they hope to achieve the kind of totalitarian state they had in mind.
Many American politicians who have advocated more or less total government control over economic activity have been more devious in their approach. They have advocated and adopted many of the same policies, but they have always recognized that direct attacks on private property, free enterprise, self-government, and individual freedom are not politically palatable to the majority of the American electorate. Thus, they have enacted a great many tax, regulatory, and income-transfer policies that achieve the ends of economic fascism, but which are sugar-coated with deceptive rhetoric about their alleged desire only to “save” capitalism.
American politicians have long taken their cue in this regard from Franklin D. Roosevelt, who sold his National Recovery Administration (which was eventually ruled unconstitutional) on the grounds that “government restrictions henceforth must be accepted not to hamper individualism but to protect it.”[40] In a classic example of Orwellian doublespeak, Roosevelt thus argued that individualism must be destroyed in order to protect it.
Now that socialism has collapsed and survives nowhere but in Cuba, China, Vietnam, and on American university campuses, the biggest threat to economic liberty and individual freedom lies in the new economic fascism. While the former Communist countries are trying to privatize as many industries as possible as fast as they can, they are still plagued by governmental controls, leaving them with essentially fascist economies: private property and private enterprise are permitted, but are heavily controlled and regulated by government.
As most of the rest of the world struggles to privatize industry and encourage free enterprise, we in the United States are seriously debating whether or not we should adopt 1930s-era economic fascism as the organizational principle of our entire health care system, which comprises 14 percent of GNP. We are also contemplating business-government “partnerships” in the automobile, airlines, and communications industries, among others, and are adopting government-managed trade policies, also in the spirit of the European corporatist schemes of the 1930s.
The state and its academic apologists are so skilled at generating propaganda in support of such schemes that Americans are mostly unaware of the dire threat they pose for the future of freedom. The road to serfdom is littered with road signs pointing toward “the information superhighway,” “health security,” “national service,” “managed trade,” and “industrial policy.”
David, somehow I suspect that should a REAL Liberal, such as myself, enter your den, you would not hesitate to censure me and then cast me out as a heretic, when in truth only the opposite would be true. Consequently, I shall take a pass on joining your forum. I'm not a big fan of Fascists, or any form of Collectivist application. Thanks anyway.
Great post John
QUOTE (Boh Bpen Yang @ Sep 1 2007, 06:45 AM)
Great post John
Boh and John, I am telling you that you or any other right wing poster will never be banned, edited, warned, etc. I am the only one with that power on the Liberal View. The current moderators can just move spam topics to spam. And if see that the moderator is being political he will no longer be a moderator.
I am trying to create a political forum with real tension and excitement. Right and Left wingers are needed. In fact, both you and John are invited to be moderators.
QUOTE (David_R @ Sep 30 2007, 02:52 AM)
Boh and John, I am telling you that you or any other right wing poster will never be banned, edited, warned, etc. I am the only one with that power on the Liberal View. The current moderators can just move spam topics to spam. And if see that the moderator is being political he will no longer be a moderator.
I am trying to create a political forum with real tension and excitement. Right and Left wingers are needed. In fact, both you and John are invited to be moderators.
I am trying to create a political forum with real tension and excitement. Right and Left wingers are needed. In fact, both you and John are invited to be moderators.
Yeah, I've heard that before about "moderators," but it just somehow doesn't seem to happen if the Admin. likes them.
What about the famous "Clem" mentioned above? Is he still there?
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Sep 30 2007, 10:53 AM)
Yeah, I've heard that before about "moderators," but it just somehow doesn't seem to happen if the Admin. likes them.
What about the famous "Clem" mentioned above? Is he still there?
What about the famous "Clem" mentioned above? Is he still there?
Clem and I are buddies. He wrote some really good stuff. I have not seen him in a few weeks, but hopefully he'll be back. I would like an intellectual conservative like him to join the forum.
QUOTE ("John L")
Does this mean that as a genuine, 100%, unadultrated Liberal of the 19th century variety, that I would be labeled a "non-Liberal", when I would perhaps be the only True Liberal posting there? And in fact, what you and your minions label 'liberal' are really nothing more than rehashed Fascists. And you are practicing the very thing that gives Fascists the terrible name they deserve. You are attempting to label 'so called' non-liberals as different from the rest of the group. Reminds me of the NSDAP of the 1930s, where all Jews were labeled "Juden" on a special arm band, so the rest of the German Citizens would know that they were inferiour citizens.
In fact you liberals are really Fascists, disguised as something that you are not. You are Collectivists, and you would exclude other's right to honestly express their opinion, because you wish not to engage it. And that is your right, since you forum is YOUR site....
....David, somehow I suspect that should a REAL Liberal, such as myself, enter your den, you would not hesitate to censure me and then cast me out as a heretic, when in truth only the opposite would be true. Consequently, I shall take a pass on joining your forum. I'm not a big fan of Fascists, or any form of Collectivist application. Thanks anyway.
In fact you liberals are really Fascists, disguised as something that you are not. You are Collectivists, and you would exclude other's right to honestly express their opinion, because you wish not to engage it. And that is your right, since you forum is YOUR site....
....David, somehow I suspect that should a REAL Liberal, such as myself, enter your den, you would not hesitate to censure me and then cast me out as a heretic, when in truth only the opposite would be true. Consequently, I shall take a pass on joining your forum. I'm not a big fan of Fascists, or any form of Collectivist application. Thanks anyway.
John L, a little bird told me that you have a long history of severely criticizing and labeling others as "kooks" if you do not agree with them on your "AI Jane" forum. The little bird also told me that you've gone so far as to delete posts and entire threads posted by some of the members of your forum, including putting members on vacation (or outright banning them) for posting information that you do not agree with.
QUOTE ("John L")
...it is worse than hypocracy to say one thing and then actually do another.
Indeed.
QUOTE (David_R @ Feb 25 2008, 11:52 PM)
Clem is still on my political forum and there are many former bear pitters on the site. I guess that my political forum is the new Bear Pit
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For a braggadocios self proclaimed Liberal dominatix Internet big shot, it would seem, loud, vile and vitrolic are not translating significantly into the Ching, Ching of Bling, Bling, that absolution of undeniable preeminence, hey comrade?
I still hear widely your site still is dominated by the mantra of daily Kos-sock Liberal Facists, where vitolic attack dogism are the measure of Liberal superiority.
but it is all good. I am sure.
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