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LooseCannon
There is an anti-war march taking place this Saturday, October 27th in 11 major US cities. To find the nearest one, click this link.
http://www.oct27.org/


Total dead in Iraq as of today 3831! How many bodies per gallon?

Bring The Troops Home NOW!

1/20/09, The end of an Error.
ustrader
QUOTE (LooseCannon @ Oct 24 2007, 07:21 AM) *
There is an anti-war march taking place this Saturday, October 27th in 11 major US cities. To find the nearest one, click this link.
http://www.oct27.org/
Total dead in Iraq as of today 3831! How many bodies per gallon?

Bring The Troops Home NOW!

1/20/09, The end of an Error.



Lost hope, Da Cant, do you think you will hear any of the below linked topics discussed at what is typically, more and more, these poorly attended, more about leftist agendas and moon bat’s radical causes, unambiguously disrobed as anti-war rallies?

http://www.bearpit.net/index.php=3fs=3d6ce...owtopic=3d8911#





That is all!
ustrader
Anti-war march winds up an OOPS!!!

Police estimated about 5,000 people attended the event, which began in Chicago's Union Park before winding through the Loop and ending at Federal Plaza.

"Where's the rage?" oops, we left it at home on the internet?

Among the other protests nationally, the one in San Francisco drew BY FAR the largest crowd, as more than 10,000 labor union members, anti-war activists, clergy and others rallied near City Hall before marching to Dolores Park. Other rallies were planned for New York, (5,000 estimated) Boston, (2,500 estimated) Philadelphia, (1000) Salt Lake City, (300 to 400) Seattle ( 800), and Los Angeles (3,000).

H e l l Loser, in San Francisco you could get 10,000 deviants to show up for Butt smelling contest... LOST CAUSE FOR LOSERS AND BROODERS Eh Loser Canyon?

That is all!!!
MrLeft
Well I went and it was cool as hell!

Waste of taxpayer monies eh...? I pay taxes...so why can't or shouldn't I waste some of it?

At least we aren't killing anybody. tongue.gif
Nomad
QUOTE (MrLeft @ Oct 29 2007, 08:25 PM) *
Well I went and it was cool as hell!
Liar

Waste of taxpayer monies eh...? I pay taxes...so why can't or shouldn't I waste some of it?
You state you live in Vancouver yet you assert you pay taxes in the US? Not a matter here since the contributions of a drone like you won't even cover a medicare toenail clipping.

At least we aren't killing anybody. tongue.gif
WRONG. You are killing our finest by giving encouragement to the enemy. These Muslim sub humans will continue their Jihad as long as there are pussies like you that can't stomach reality and keep giving them a reason to fight on.
ustrader
QUOTE (MrLeft @ Oct 30 2007, 10:25 AM) *
Well I went and it was cool as hell!

Waste of taxpayer monies eh...? I pay taxes...so why can't or shouldn't I waste some of it?

K-nut, or dishonest internet persona taxes, perhaps eh? Bro, don't taze me!!

At least we aren't killing anybody. tongue.gif


At least we aren't killing anybody?”

How about Human Intellect, your killing that for sure!!!

Exampled by these photos taken by the NSA showing your Marxist Socialist's march to decline, on the way to the mediocre killing all of mankind.


That aptitude to be angrily ill informed, righteously disagreeable, loathsome, and prickly obnoxious at very same moment, often! That Marxism, idiom of achievement whereby at its apex is but a measure of the middling, by those bred to mediocrity.

FEAR DENIAL MONGERING:

FEAR; (perceived risk or danger, real or not)

DENIAL (negation in logic; refusal to admit the possibility of a truth and or a reality)

MONGERING (monger=Trader; thus mongering = trading)

Contrary to the urban mythological FEAR MONGERING, which is but a tool of denial thus, undefined, yet, mythically driven as if defined. Fear Denial is always directed at those who are self presumed to be disagreeably wrong by the righteously right, as such, must be perceived as; “One who spreads the (*ideology) of fear, implying none exists, through propaganda to fulfill a concealed agenda.

Similar to a terrorist, but with information and or as much, with disinformation, yet, not by direct violence except to deter, justify and or encourage fear.

Special Agenda, 5th columnists, Politicians, media persona's, most these days are far removed from impartiality, by self agenda and or competitive zealotry. Instead most clamor of these mythological Fear driven trolls and narcissistic internet posters whose bravado are only matched by their cloaked persona. It is they whom are among the most prolific of Fear Mongers and likewise, Fear Denial Mongers. Something, few objectively can deny.

Anti-Establishmentarianism;

that which is so malformed it has no residual to which it has a category, thus it wades in the pools of incongruity, where often in the tepidity of meekness is a florid yet to bloom into awareness, often as uninformed as ill informed, seeking attention, but destine to grow into nothing, once they find it.




Click below- Anti-Intellect gone wild!!

http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2007/10/27/vetsvwar.jpg









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LooseCannon
I do respect those who do these anti-war marches. They are expressing their idealism and their best hopes for this country. They are not losers and, God help us, they are not part of a lost cause. The real losers are those who willingly swallowed the crud the administration fed them to rationalize this war, and who continue to this day to say the crud tasted like fudge.
MrRight
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WRONG. You are killing our finest by giving encouragement to the enemy. These Muslim sub humans will continue their Jihad as long as there are pussies like you that can't stomach reality and keep giving them a reason to fight on.


You know, Nomad...I have always thought you were just young and stupid and might get over it...but I think I will finally accept that you are just a waste of oxygen overall and the world would be best served if natural selection would actually kick in and assure you do not breed...

You are one sick young man and I think it really is incurable...

When I think of the good and valuable people that have died in these stupid wars because they felt they had a duty to perform and I look at you wasting oxygen and polluting the world as a whole with your repugnant presence I see the proof that there is certainly no intelligent force directing the universe...
MrLeft
Nomad..."aid and comfort to the enemy"...as long as someone else has a resource, America will always have an enemy.

But I'm glad you mentioned the rage absent from the marches...the atmosphere was indeed quite festive, which I'm sure many found refreshing. Had we torn up a few things you'd be here whining about that...

...no matter though. because as righteous as you think this cause is, as much as you think it's necessary, as dire as you claim the threaat to be, you steadfastly refuse to do any of the heavy lifting, or to even come close to putting your saintly, smelly butt on the line.

That tells everyone here all they need to know about you.

So fug off...you may as well be as some welfare queen talking about the joys of working for a living.
Nomad
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.I have always thought you were just young and stupid and might get over it...but I think I will finally accept that you are just a waste of oxygen overall and the world would be best served if natural selection would actually kick in and assure you do not breed...

Wrong as usual you idiot. I am in my mid 50's and as such have had much more time to study humanity OBJECTIVLY then you have had. Also I did breed and have 4 offspring that would view anyone that posts with your avitar as an insecure little worm.

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When I think of the good and valuable people that have died in these stupid wars because they felt they had a duty to perform

Your right to spout your ignorant opinions would not be possible today were it not for those that fought for your right to do so.

Moving on............................

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Nomad..."aid and comfort to the enemy"...as long as someone else has a resource, America will always have an enemy.

And WTF does that have to do with your anti war protest that will encourage some diaperhead to fight on and kill our troops?

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But I'm glad you mentioned the rage absent from the marches...the atmosphere was indeed quite festive
I did not mention "rage" in my post. Best put your bong away for awhile. And of course the protest was "festive" as are all liberal protests. Protests that accomplish nothing except to make the participants "feel good" about themselves, as you do now.

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...no matter though. because as righteous as you think this cause is, as much as you think it's necessary, as dire as you claim the threaat to be, you steadfastly refuse to do any of the heavy lifting, or to even come close to putting your saintly, smelly butt on the line.

Son, I wipe my @ss......
Perhaps you need to set aside your anal fetish and step into reality here. History is the guide here, not your childish emotions. Grow up son. You are not living in Disneyland....


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ustrader
QUOTE (LooseCannon @ Oct 31 2007, 07:56 AM) *
I do respect those who do these anti-war marches. They are expressing their idealism and their best hopes for this country. They are not losers and, God help us, they are not part of a lost cause. The real losers are those who willingly swallowed the crud the administration fed them to rationalize this war, and who continue to this day to say the crud tasted like fudge.


I too respect the right of descent, 3 in my grandfather generation, 5 in my dad's generation, 8 in my generation and now 11 in our sons generation, have laid it on the line for that right, we get it!!!

We get it far more than most of the last two generations who have no idea even if they owe America anything. They shallow draft life to busy taking from our mother country in self indulgence to consider that our nurturing mother gives them their breath of life, the core of their sustenance, and the privilege of their existence as well as meaning, in what and all, they are, and or what their off spring will be and do.

Hope is not an ideal, nor a strategy nor even a verb of action, it is merely a desire, an expectation of something yet to exist that may or may not materialize or come to fruition. It is merely a non-existences based on inaction and mere thought, sitting idly by, awaiting the forces of action to do as they will to those relying on the non-existing. Hope dwells in the shallow drafts of idealism sustained merely by nothing but what might be, could be, or should be.

Idealists are dreamers and dreamers can be, but are not necessarily proven visionary. Dreams don't stop death, or evil, nor bad people, or bad things, from happening. True Idealist are visionary pragmatist who see where they want to be while taking affective actions of meaningful purpose based on where they are now to get there. While intelligently grasping, that adaptability is man's best idealistic virtue and affective tool of accomplishment.

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A man who thinks he is right, is seldom wrong, while a man who thinks he is wrong, is equally seldom wrong, but a man who knows he can be as right as wrong even at the same time, is always right. -Trader


What if we win in Iraq and Afghanistan and radical Islam is taken from the threat threshold. What does this say about Iraq, us and you, who are so invested in losing. Pretending it is about the Iraqi's, like Fonda’s moonbat's pretended it was about the Vietnamese's, those forgotten by them, in an NY instant, while 3 million more died, unnoticed and unattended to, to prove a false righteousness about idealism and war as if an affective tool against human violence. Noting it has not stopped one war since, nor any of the dozens since, nor prevented any of the millions who have died in wars, since.

The true peacemakers, in our real world afar from this idealism, are those who actually do something to stop violence. As history and today news has proven time, and time, again, violence is stopped exclusively to date by those who are willing to use violence to stop violence. Where idealism, words, hope, and ideals never do nor never have stopped it, ever!


That is all!!
MrLeft
QUOTE (Nomad @ Oct 30 2007, 11:36 PM) *
Wrong as usual you idiot. I am in my mid 50's and as such have had much more time to study humanity OBJECTIVLY then you have had. Also I did breed and have 4 offspring that would view anyone that posts with your avitar as an insecure little worm.
Your right to spout your ignorant opinions would not be possible today were it not for those that fought for your right to do so.

Moving on............................
And WTF does that have to do with your anti war protest that will encourage some diaperhead to fight on and kill our troops?

I did not mention "rage" in my post. Best put your bong away for awhile. And of course the protest was "festive" as are all liberal protests. Protests that accomplish nothing except to make the participants "feel good" about themselves, as you do now.
Son, I wipe my @ss......
Perhaps you need to set aside your anal fetish and step into reality here. History is the guide here, not your childish emotions. Grow up son. You are not living in Disneyland....


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Well, you slimy little piece of fecal matter, since most of what I read from your childish, stupid, racist posts I would say young and stupid fits pretty well..and the stupid part is painfully self-evident. It is sad that you have reproduced since those poor children are obviously doubly disadvantaged by both genetics and environment..

Like your daddy Bush and Cheney, you are too cowardly to serve but feel you are an expert on what others should do and what sacrifices they should make to "protect" you from your boogeymen. Hatred and xenophobia are your idea of "objectivly" (sic) viewing the world.

You say others fail to "support the troops" and give "aid and comfort to the enemy" while you and your ilk are the ones responsible for the deaths of brave young americans and the alienation of the world in general...while you sit home and try to perpetuate the insanity while hiding under your bed and spewing uneducated and worthless crap.

How you can dare to criticize others for demonstrating against a war that they believe is wrong while you refuse to serve in a cause that you feel is just is beyond me...I mean you obviously know you are a coward and yet spew your garbage at those who actually show the courage of their convictions...how can you look in the mirror without puking?
LooseCannon
In Nomad's defense, I've seen him differentiate between regular Muslims and the Islamist/Jihadist types. It was like pulling teeth, mind you. I just think when he's being pressed he'll try to get under your skin and have some fun with racism. rolleyes.gif
Nomad
QUOTE (MrLeft @ Oct 31 2007, 12:18 PM) *
Well, you slimy little piece of fecal matter, since most of what I read from your childish, stupid, racist posts I would say young and stupid fits pretty well..and the stupid part is painfully self-evident. It is sad that you have reproduced since those poor children are obviously doubly disadvantaged by both genetics and environment..

Like your daddy Bush and Cheney, you are too cowardly to serve but feel you are an expert on what others should do and what sacrifices they should make to "protect" you from your boogeymen. Hatred and xenophobia are your idea of "objectivly" (sic) viewing the world.

You say others fail to "support the troops" and give "aid and comfort to the enemy" while you and your ilk are the ones responsible for the deaths of brave young americans and the alienation of the world in general...while you sit home and try to perpetuate the insanity while hiding under your bed and spewing uneducated and worthless crap.

How you can dare to criticize others for demonstrating against a war that they believe is wrong while you refuse to serve in a cause that you feel is just is beyond me...I mean you obviously know you are a coward and yet spew your garbage at those who actually show the courage of their convictions...how can you look in the mirror without puking?

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Nice hissy fit you little loser girlie boy. Wasssamatter have a bad day in the cubicle? Or did your wetback boss scold you for not flipping the burgers properly? Or perhaps mamas milk dried up? What is really hillarious here is you have no Fn idea as to what a fool you are making of yourself.


MrLeft, please feel free to continue to berate me. This must be highly therapeutic for the emotional cripple that you are. AND it amuses me no end. Knowing that mental midgets like you exist makes me thank God for the intellect He has provided me.



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Fit2BThaied
QUOTE (ustrader @ Oct 31 2007, 01:46 PM) *
The true peacemakers, in our real world afar from this idealism, are those who actually do something to stop violence. As history and today news has proven time, and time, again, violence is stopped exclusively to date by those who are willing to use violence to stop violence. Where idealism, words, hope, and ideals never do nor never have stopped it, ever!
And that, my friends, is the ultimate opiate which almost all of you have smoked since you were weaned from your mama's nipple: the myth of redemptive violence. Doped by that myth, you fervently and insanely believe that Superman/Batman/Popeye myth that if we just act more violently than the enemy, kill more humans than Hitler or Stalin killed, God will bless our bloodshed and save us because we were so God-damned violent against His creation in His own image.

You don't save virginity by raping. You do not make peace by warring. Again and again, in far more ways than you know, violence has been stopped by those who were willing to use ACTIVE NONVIOLENCE to stop violence. Idealism, words, and hope have stopped armies, refused the Nazis permission to take Jews, liberated countless countries. You have bought the opium of the terrorists, and you teach your children to smoke the same insane dope of redemptive violence.
ustrader
And that, my friends, is the ultimate opiate which almost all of you have smoked since you were weaned from your mama's nipple: the myth of redemptive violence.

Yet, if it is a myth there former nipple man, can you disprove that in perhaps 90 to 95% of the major Violence seen in history and even today, the ultimate peacemaker was, is, and continues to be, IN FACT, those willing to stop violence with violence, over those who would merely ask, please stop the Violence.

I appreciate your pretense, your idealism of love an peace as if it is a dominate and affective force in the world, but you know, as any rational person with nickel of common sense and awareness knows, that is just not true FITS.

I realize by your own admissions here, your life has revolved around deception and pretense. But that is your life, not the world outside of it over there in Ped-a-feel-ya and dev-ean-atia land, where you now milk the cow on US Dole, while deriding its substance.


Doped by that myth, you fervently and insanely believe that Superman/Batman/Popeye myth that if we just act more violently than the enemy, kill more humans than Hitler or Stalin killed, God will bless our bloodshed and save us because we were so God-damned violent against His creation in His own image.

Now FITS Do 6 hell Mary's for using God's name in vain, not very Christian of you is it!! And to ThinknI defended you when KenRI so flamed you as I have before..But to say Gods name in vain, thats the straw that broke the Keytoe's back!!

You talk big smoke there, man who walketh on the water, but do you actually feel the water when you walk across it and do you get wet from it when you do?


You don't save virginity by raping.

Yet in stopping a rape, a word of "stop" seldom works, now does it, walker on the waters?

You do not make peace by warring.

Yet, you know the facts support that is exactly what happens, unquestionably and indisputably as to how nearly all warring is stopped now, and in history, and likely far into the future, when we are not even a memory to living sole at the time. FITS

Again and again, in far more ways than you know, violence has been stopped by those who were willing to use ACTIVE NONVIOLENCE to stop violence.

Who would not seek that alternative first FITS, what an absurd view of the intelligence of your fellow man, assuming he would prefer violence if a non-violence approach would work. You exhale the obvious but inhale the reality, that most of the time, non-violent approaches DO NOT stop major Violence, preventively nor once it starts.

For every major violence of Human Conflict among themselves you can list, where Non-Violence as succeeded, I can list many more times that, want to play?


Idealism, words, and hope have stopped armies, refused the Nazis permission to take Jews, liberated countless countries.

When, where, how often in comparison to how many times the opportunity of Violence? A drop in a sea does not a tsunami make there FITS. Get some reality into your utopia there FITS. It is true men do great good far more than we know, but when the blood flows, his benevolence is and has been far from remotely affective and impacting in the cessation of major Human Violence in total.

You have bought the opium of the terrorists, and you teach your children to smoke the same insane dope of redemptive violence.

FITS, I think your drowning outside shallows here, Really Winks, with his eternalized, Peace and love Christian bias theory of Redemptive Violence, is that your best shot at rebuttal here?

[B]That, wanker, far from accepted and impeachable of bias analysis that is predicated on the notion that Babylonian society and pagan religion, as well as Western society and popular culture, are intrinsically less valid than Wink’s notion of first century Christian society and "pure" monotheism. You and Winks in distant ways have one thing in common with the Taliban and Al Queda there FITS. You think you live in a time long gone and supplant your ideas, values and idioms from that dead era as if relevant and practical in the real world you actually live in today but in hope, I grant you perhaps in many morows to come it will be as such.

Really Fits, you are truly a part of that Indoctrinate U hubris, transparently obsessed to a fault and flawed in the logic of pragmatic evolution. That clear shows in Gods creation of all things on this earth, the meek, the weak and the non-adaptable, are not intended to, nor rarely ever survive.

Now that is the real myth being spun here, that peace, goodwill and love rules the earth now and words have been proven as the real power to stop the evil in men from occurring. If only it were a remote reality, I would be with you, but is not much more than a few pebbles on a beach of many pebbles thus far.

That is all!!
ustrader
QUOTE (MrRight @ Oct 31 2007, 11:00 AM) *
You know, Nomad...I have always thought you were just young and stupid and might get over it...but I think I will finally accept that you are just a waste of oxygen overall and the world would be best served if natural selection would actually kick in and assure you do not breed...

You are one sick young man and I think it really is incurable...

When I think of the good and valuable people that have died in these stupid wars because they felt they had a duty to perform and I look at you wasting oxygen and polluting the world as a whole with your repugnant presence I see the proof that there is certainly no intelligent force directing the universe...


Slipping out of the shallow end of the pool, eh Mr Right, to premise us in an Appeal to ridicule, also called the Horse Laugh, with those SF values, Hubris and condescensions of self-righteousness, while walking on water, wearing flotation devices on each arm to keep from drowning eh?

That aptitude to be angrily righteously disagreeable, loathsome, and prickly obnoxious at very same moment, often, suits you!



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If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names.”


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