US and many European countries has jumped to recognize Kosovo almost instantly.

however many (not even counting Russia and China) are voicing their strong disapproval.

and Serbia rightly called this "independence" illegal and USA as a main culprit!
because this act is against the UN resolution of '99

from Time article a year ago:

(http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1624851,00.html)

this recognition step is very unscrupulous and biases, shows the inconsistent and illogical approach towards the cases of such separatism.

WHY would not Bush support Kurds in Turkey to get their independence? there is no less Kurds massacred steadily and consistently in Turkey (and in Iraq too - before by Saddam, now by Turkish army) than ethnic Albanians allegedly were in Kosovo. it is and was Kurdish land since very long times, and Kurds were living there for centuries. in Iraq at least Kurdish region was given autonomy. In Turkey - never.

so, to be consistent in their politics of "helping the suppressed" - US and others who's supported Kosovo must help Kurds too ! would they ever do that? I doubt it very much because Kurdistan is too large territory divided between several countries:



and in fact, USA "do not mind" that Turkish army makes incursions into Iraq to bomb Kurds and kill them ( Iraq gov't criticizes Turkish incursion - AP Sat Feb 23). even though Kurds were perhaps major american ally in fight with Saddam.

also US might as well help Balochistan gain its own independence from Pakistan. but most likely US will oppose it, as it did Bangladesh independence those days - practically supporting West Pakistani genocide of bengalis.

list of possible candidates for independence can go on: like why not let 4 S. Thai provinces to RESTORE their ancient Pattani state? at least it WAS independent from Thailand, unlike Kosovo - where albanians simply taken over the whole province, by hook or crook, settling on serbian land and gradually driving them out.

I think what Serbia (as well as Russia, China, Spain, Greece among others) should do is - recognize the independence of Lakota nation (Republic of Lakotah) ! I really like to see what USA will say about THAT ?

Independence from United States
- Proclaimed December 19, 2007
- Recognition unrecognized

now these are the people who were truly oppressed and slaughtered by US for centuries (19th, 20th, 21st ) - and they rightly demand what is their own! WHY NOT US recognize their independence too as Kosovo ?

the map of Lakota Nation land :




quite a huge chunk huh? much larger than Kosovo

here is fresh relevant article from which is evident, that my thoughts expressed in the OP are nothing unusual - but in fact, very natural logic. also that I didn't make up anything new - it is already existed, this sort of understanding. in fact, there are a lot of analysis and facts provided below.



A long road from Kosovo to Kurdistan
(http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JB29Ak02.html)
By Pepe Escobar
Feb 29, 2008

article is a bit to long to quote here in full, although worth reading.

here are some points:






and from his earlier article, 4 months ago:

Double-crossing in Kurdistan
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IK02Ak01.html
By Pepe Escobar
Nov 2, 2007



well, this explains it all:

it is all about "Pipelineistan" - never about such BS as 'war on terror', 'democracy', 'freedom' for small nations.

it is all about blunt business - petro-dollars etc.

and who cares what happens to those small ethnic groups anyway? 'let them kill each other' - is old good motto of colonialists since many centuries.

here are more articles by the same author, who is I think typical representative of "critical journalism"


The Best of Pepe Escobar
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IJ17Ak03.html

Pepe, dementia le leftists disease

Far Left disease

well, looks like that's the best you can do - trying to discredit others by sticking labels. that is Fallacy in argument, my friend, called "Attack on person" (Argumentum ad hominen)

personally I do not give a sh1t of which ideology or political adherence person is - for me the main thing is the reasoning he implies and the way of his conduct. also - the TRUTH !

THAT is all

Now my Putin-izer realizing a drowning man grasp frantically at even at a blade of grass{/I], repeating by query of “is that the best you can do,” is not a labeling. It is a variant of Ad Hominem, called [I]“Poisoning of well,” an argument of rebuke, which is NOT fallacious, if the attack goes to the creditability of the argument rebuked.

Specifically in this case, as is presented by you, in your argument of authority in some presumptive assumptions of a Marxist zealots purported objective journalism of authority in both fact and principal.

Thus a discrediting of the source and his prime motives so well reputed in topic and context to be vetted in the ideology of atypical Latin American leftist Marxism is a poisoning of well of his authority in Marxist motives.

Marxism so often arisen as a savior of the people, but more often, always failing the people in the end, as a perversion to human nature for liberty, free of corrupted ideologues and nanny state "we know best" dictates, which in the end, turn to tyrannical dictatorships, always using the fallacy of “Pious fraud,” pretending to be for the greater good, but when their failures become apparent, always reverting to” the ends justify the means” of self despotism, as we have seen, and will increasing see more of in such venues equal mind think such as the mad adventures of Hugo, de Napolitano le Americano, Chavez, and his Marxist mob of leftist dictators, who more and more, are turning to nations of State sponsored terrorism, as comparatives ofv themselves, in growing evidence of support for terrorist, arms merchants, and drug traders.

Just like Ortega, the failed Nicaraguan Marxist, now pretentiously returned, in far from reform marxist ideals, they will each, in the end fail, and end up, as all the others, either dead, or like Noriega of Panama, for all are Marxist, destined to failure and eventual dictatorship, and the ever present paranoia of retaining the power of survivals self sufficiency.

THAT IS ALL!!

no, THAT is NOT all !

because what are you mostly doing (well, apart from personal attacks and name calling) is indulging yourself in what is called
Demagogy


RE Marxism

first of all it is worth mentioning that



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism#Classical_Marxism

furthermore, there are just too many variations of Marxism which you all generalize it appears


now, just for the record and BTW to burst your bubble -
apparently not all would agree with your spiteful hate for Marxism !

for example the famous anti-Soviet and some say anti-communist Z. Brzezinski serving as Carter's NSA advisor, dude who basically was the author of the whole Afgan doctrine against Soviets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski#Afghanistan) said the following about Marxism:


from his 334-page book "Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era."

huh?

what say you?

you might of course argue with him - but would hardly change his opinion.

therefore my guess is - the only thing you'll employ again would be -
sticking some sort of label on him too and calling few names


so, this Quote was from the dude who has also published book
"The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives."

in which he has defined US as the ONLY Super-power and the means to achieve that goal.


http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPer...iew-Brzezinski-




well, that explains a lot the whole course of events in Afgan and Iraq, as well as Independent Kosovo !

well, let's make another quote from Z. Brzezinski's same book :


http://isohunt.com/release/117069/?poster=&cat=10

and it is amazing that he wrote this almost 40 years ago (without 2), in 1970 !

this guy is still alive and kicking - and witnessing his predictions come true !
because what else Patriot Act does than allows such "continuous surveillance over every citizen" - huh ?

totalitarianism is rising. Bush is a pawn and clown. bankers and elite rule the governments
and tramp the commoners, who are for them are merely no better than "cannon meat" as 100 and more years ago, only on bigger scale and in much more sophisticated way.


so, no need to blame Marxism - look at what Western "civilization" comes to
and in fact already came to if not those very tyrannical dictatorships you so righteously denounce ?
where are the liberties and freedoms you propagate for ?

or perhaps the current Bush's regime is better "savior of the people"?
hell, man - go to YouTube and read comments by disillusioned folks on videos about 9/11 or about Iraq
mostly American people - not even mention the world countries opinion.

Hmm! Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski, this is the man you hold as on one hand, the reasons for Russia Crushing defeat in Afghanistan and another as one who somehow gives insight as to avenues of resolution into the current situation in the Middle East, is that right?

Let us look at his record for what it did or did not achieve, as being a great thinker is great in the no participating decision making world of Academia. But being a great thinker whose thoughts result in accomplishment and achievement are all that matter in the real world.

He originally argued adamantly against Dwight Eisenhower and John Foster Dulles's policy of rollback, (defined as using military force to "rollback" communism in countries where it had taken root.) A view of opposition to Stalinist and Maoist Communist aggressiveness just after WWII as elaborated by Winston Churchill's 1946 address at Westminster College in Missouri, warning of "an iron curtain" descending across Europe. The Brzezinski alternative to rollback was “containment”. A policy to stop what it called the domino effect of nations moving politically towards Soviet Union and Maoist-based communism, rather than European-American-based capitalism.

By 1968, the Brezhnev Doctrine had been described as a rationale for Soviet intervention as well as expansion. The doctrine was a rationale for expansionism, holding that each satellite communist party was responsible to its own people, to all the socialist countries, and to the entire communist movement. Once a country fell into the communist orbit, it would not be allowed to leave.

Soviet involvement in third world political movements became the tool by which gradual Soviet expansion was practiced, all the while avoiding escalation into a nuclear confrontation with the United States. An era of "proxy wars" was fought, in developing countries worldwide, in Africa, Asia, Central America, and South America.

This latter proven failed idea of Brzezinski was principled in the polices that involved the Cuban Missile Crisis which Brzezinski has a direct hand in, as well as US involvement in Korea and where he also supported intervention in Vietnam to counter Chinese leader Mao Zedong's claim that the United States was a paper tiger. From 1966 to 1968 Vietnam and many other places around the world from 1950 to the 1970’s, Where after Brzezinski’s advocating for a U.S. containment policy principled into opposition to the Soviet ratcheting of its sphere of influence. However, the Brzezinski’s containment policy suffered setbacks, and after the U.S. pullout from the Vietnam conflict, the policy of containment was somewhat discredited. U.S. politicians advanced new theories of “détente” and “peaceful co-existence”.

Oddly and rather ironically Brzezinski despite the obviousness of his containment policy failures, Meanwhile he became a leading critic of both the Nixon-Kissinger détente’ condominium, strangely and inconsistently in logic as well as to McGovern's pacifism paradigm of the left of that era.

All subsequent American presidents after Truman, both Republican and Democrat, subscribed to the Doctrine of Containment as being the focal point of American foreign policy, with the exception of Jimmy Carter who initially proclaimed human rights as the priority of his administration. However, before Carter left office, he re-articulated the primary focus of American foreign policy with the Carter Doctrine, the principles of containing Soviet expansion.
For Carter that, I cannot decide are we for human rights, or détente or containment President, Brzezinski was again the architect of Carters Failed Human rights Policy that had replaced détente, which Brzezinski adamantly distasted. This Brzezinski’s great achievements during the Carter Presidency was, as National Security advisory, he never saw the over throw of the Shah Of Iran and the true beginnings of today’s Islamic Jihad coming, nor the neither did he foresee the Sovirt Invasion of Afghanistan.

Furthermore, he was the guy who advised Carters Impotent stance when the Iranian committed a truly indisputable act of war by overrunning the US embassy, taking and holding the embassy staff hostage in abject horror and threat for more than a year 444 days without any effort at all to push back at what was, in both Iran and Afghanistan to be, now unquestionable the true point of enabling and embodiment of the seed that has grown into todays Islamic radicalism and terrorism .

In 1980, oddly after nearly a year of impotent response Brzezinski planned Operation Eagle Claw, which was meant to free the hostages in Iran using the newly created Delta Force and other Special Forces units. The mission was a failure and led to Secretary Vance's resignation.

Then like a chameleon, then Brzezinski transformed himself again and led the U.S. toward a new arms buildup and the development of the Rapid
Deployment Forces—policies that are both more generally associated with Ronald Reagan now.

Since, Brzezinski like Crater have attempting to be revisionist as to their Historical failures using the Failures of Clinton and both Bush I and II, as convienent targets who in actually have in one form or another used the varying strategies and polices Brzezinski had once advocated, rejected and reinvented over his entire career.

Seeing problems in visions of fault, blame and foretelling, is the easy part of life, require few capable of action in doing so, Envisioning them timley and solving them, all togetrher requires men of action. Few Marxist and meek indecisive men like the Chameleon Brzeinski and Carter are n ot such me.



Hmm! Marxism an academic hypothesis of ONE worldly achievement; FAILURE!!
The following countries had governments at some point in the twentieth century who at least nominally adhered to Marxism:

Albania

(FAILURE; Albania allied with the USSR, and then broke with the USSR in 1960 over de-Stalinization. A strong political alliance with China followed, Failure: Communists were routed in elections Mar. 1992 During NATO's air war against Yugoslavia, March-June 1999, Albania hosted some 465,000 Kosovar refugees. Victory by a pro-Berisha coalition in elections July 3, 2005, ended 8 years of Socialist Party rule. Crowds in Tirana, June 10, 2007, welcomed George W. Bush, the first sitting U.S. president to visit Albania.),

Afghanistan

(FAILURE; Soviet occupation resulted in the killings of at least 600,000 to 2 million Afghan civilians. Over five million Afghans fled their country to Pakistan, Iran and other parts of the world. Faced with mounting international pressure and great number of casualties on both sides, the Soviets withdrew in 1989. Soviet withdrawal leaving behind the Marxist Democratic Republic of Afghanistan who at cost of another 250,000 where defeated by Islamic Radicals Taliban in 1996),

Angola,

(FAILURE; Leftist military officers overthrew the Caetano government in Portugal in the Carnation Revolution on April 25, 1974. The Angolan Civil War (1975 - 2002), 500,000 killed, Marxist Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola's (MPLA) lead by President dos Santos has so far refused to institute regular democratic processes. Anti-corruption watchdog Transparency International rated Angola one of the 10 most corrupt countries in the world.

Benin,

In 1972, a military coup led by Mathieu Kérékou overthrew the council. He established a Marxist government under the control of Military Council of the Revolution (CNR), and the country was renamed to the People's Republic of Benin in 1975. In 1979, the CNR was dissolved and elections took place. President George W. Bush and First Lady Laura Bush briefly visited this country on Feb. 16, 2008, marking the first visit of a major head of state to this tiny country. He was presented the Grand Cross of the National Order of Benin by President Yayi Boni, who thanked him for the economic aid arranged by Bush.

Bulgaria,

(FAILURE; After World War II, Bulgaria became a communist state and part of the Eastern Bloc. In 1990, after the Revolutions of 1989, the Communists gave up their monopoly on power and Bulgaria transitioned to democracy and free-market capitalism.
Currently, Bulgaria functions as a parliamentary democracy under a unitary constitutional republic. A member of the European Union since 2007 and NATO since 2004.)

Chile,

( FAILURE; In 1970, Senator Salvador Allende Gossens, a Marxist physician and member of Chile's Socialist Party, who headed the "Popular Unity" (UP or "Unidad Popular") coalition of the Socialist, Communist, Radical, and Social-Democratic Parties, along with dissident Christian Democrats, the Popular Unitary Action Movement (MAPU), and the Independent Popular Action, won a plurality of votes in a three-way contest. Production fell and unemployment rose. A US-backed military coup overthrew Allende on September 11, 1973. As the armed forces bombarded the presidential palace (Palacio de La Moneda), Allende reportedly committed suicide. The right-wing military government pursued free market economic policies. During Pinochet's nearly 17 years in power and country began an economic come back, though run by a military dictator. In a plebiscite on October 5, 1988, General Pinochet was denied a second 8-year term as president and the country moved toward a parliamentary democracy and has prospered since.)

China,

(FAILURE; After its victory in the Chinese Civil War, the Communist Party of China, led by Mao Zedong, gained control of most of the Mainland China. On October 1, 1949. In the preceding years China was one of the poorest nations on earth until finally in late 1990’s they began to embrace a modified capitalist market system incorporated into a Lessing Marxist Communist Political system, still evolving to perhaps a more democratic political system especially in comparison to failure Marxist economic and political system it had until the late 1990s.)

Republic of Congo,

(FAILURE; After decades of turbulent politics bolstered by Marxist-Leninist rhetoric, and with the collapse of the Soviet Union, Congo completed a transition to multi-party democracy with elections in August 1992. Denis Sassou Nguesso conceded defeat and Congo's new president, Prof. Pascal Lissouba, was inaugurated on August 31, 1992. Though in 2002, it has moved back to more of a one party system and its economic position has decreased ever since.)

Cuba,

(FAILURE; In 1934, Batista and the army, who were the real center of power in Cuba, replaced Grau with Carlos Mendieta y Montefur. In 1940, Batista decided to run for president himself. Because of a split with the leader of the opposition, Ramón Grau San Martín, Batista turned instead to the Communist Party of Cuba, which had grown in size and influence during the 1930s.
Batista feared that Barquin would oust him and his followers, and when it became apparent that Batista had little chance of winning, he staged a coup on 10 March 1952. Then came Castro’s Marxist-Leninist Cuba. The fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 dealt Cuba a giant economic blow, today Cubans are some of poorest in the world with few freedoms and little economic opportunity.)

Czechoslovakia,

(FAILURE; In 1946 parliamentary election the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia emerged as the winner in the Czech lands (the Democratic Party won in Slovakia). In February 1948 the Communists seized power. In 1989 the country became democratic again through the Velvet Revolution. This occurred at around the same time as the fall of communism in Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary and Poland. Within three years communist rule had been totally eradicated from Europe.

Unlike Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union, the end of communism in this country did not automatically mean the end of the "communist" name: the word "socialist" was removed from the name on March 29, 1990, and replaced by "federal".
In 1992, due to growing nationalist tensions, Czechoslovakia finally ceased to exist. Its territory became the Czech Republic and Slovakia, which were formally created on January 1, 1993.)

East Germany,

(FAILURE; In 1955 the Republic was declared by the Soviet Union to be fully sovereign; however, Soviet troops remained, based on the four-power Potsdam agreement, just as British, Canadian and American forces remained in West Germany. As NATO troops remained in West Berlin and West Germany, East Germany and Berlin in particular became focal points of Cold War tensions. East Germany was a member of the Warsaw Pact and a close ally of the Soviet Union.

In 1989, following widespread public anger over the results of local government elections that spring, many citizens applied for exit visas, or left the country illegally. In August 1989 Hungary removed its border restrictions and unsealed its border and more than 13,000 people left East Germany by crossing the "green" border via Czechoslovakia into Hungary and then on to Austria and West Germany.[2] Many others demonstrated against the ruling party, especially in the city of Leipzig. Kurt Masur, the conductor of the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra led local negotiations with the government, and held town meetings in the concert hall.[3] The demonstrations eventually led Erich Honecker to resign in October, and he was replaced by a slightly more liberal Communist, Egon Krenz.

On November 9, 1989, a few sections of the Berlin Wall were opened, resulting in thousands of East Germans crossing into West Berlin and West Germany for the first time. Soon, the governing party of East Germany resigned. Although there were some small attempts to create a permanent, democratic East Germany, these were soon overwhelmed by calls for unification with West Germany. After some negotiations (2+4 Talks, involving the two German states and the former Allied Powers United States, France, United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union), conditions for German unification were agreed upon. East Germany recreated the original five states that had been abolished in 1952. On October 3, 1990; the five East German states officially joined the Federal Republic of Germany, while East and West Berlin united as a third city-state (in the same manner as Bremen and Hamburg).

To this day, there remain vast differences between the former East Germany and West Germany (for example, in lifestyle, wealth, political beliefs and other matters) and thus it is still common to speak of eastern and western Germany distinctly. The Eastern German economy has struggled since unification, and large subsidies are still transferred from west to east.)

Ethiopia,

Haile Selassie's reign came to an end in 1974, when a pro-Soviet Marxist-Leninist military junta, the "Derg" led by Mengistu Haile Mariam, deposed him, and established a one-party communist state.

( FAILURE) Communism

The ensuing regime suffered several coups, uprisings, wide-scale drought, and a massive refugee problem. In 1977, there was the Ogaden War, but Ethiopia quickly defeated Somalia with a massive influx of Soviet military hardware and a Cuban military presence coupled with East Germany and South Yemen the following year.

Hundreds of thousands were killed due to the red terror, forced deportations, or from using hunger as a weapon.[61] In 2006, after a long trial, Mengistu was found guilty of genocide. Liitle has changed since, dissenter are arrested and often never seen again even After Jimmy Carter Certified the 2005 election.

Grenada,

( FAILURE; In 1979, the New Jewel Movement under Marxist Maurice Bishop launched a successful armed revolution against the government. Maurice Bishop suspended the constitution and declared a People's Revolutionary Government. All parties except the NJM were banned and elections were never held to legitimize the change.

After the execution of Bishop, the Marxist People's Revolutionary Army formed a military government with General Hudson Austin as chairman. The army declared a four-day total curfew during which it said that anyone leaving their home without approval would be shot on sight.
Six days after the execution of Bishop, the island was invaded by forces from the United States. On the Island the Us found hundreds of Cuban Military personnel and loads of Military Equipment and Intelligence assistance supplied by Cuban to support the excustion and overthrow of Bishop a more anti-Cuban Marxist than the military that replaced him in the coupe. The US stated this was done at the behest of Dame Eugenia Charles, of Dominica. Five other Caribbean nations participated with Dominica and the USA in the campaign, called Operation Urgent Fury. While the Governor-General, Sir Paul Scoon, later stated that he had requested the invasion, the governments of the United Kingdom and Trinidad and Tobago expressed anger at not having been consulted.
After the invasion, the pre-revolutionary constitution was resumed. The Island nation has prospered ever since.

Hungary,

( FAILURE; Following the fall of Nazi Germany, Soviet troops occupied all of the country and through their influence Hungary gradually became a communist satellite state of the Soviet Union. After 1948, Communist leader Mátyás Rákosi established Stalinist rule in the country complete with forced collectivization and planned economy.

The rule of the Rákosi government was nearly unbearable for Hungary's war-torn citizens. This led to the 1956 Hungarian Revolution and Hungary's temporary withdrawal from the Warsaw Pact. The Soviets retaliated massively with military force, sending in over 150,000 troops and 2,500 tanks[26]. Nearly a quarter of a million people left the country during the brief time that the borders were open in 1956. From the 1960s through the late 1980s, Hungary was often satirically referred to as "the happiest barrack" within the Eastern bloc. This was under the autocratic rule of its controversial communist leader, János Kádár. The last Soviet soldier left the country in 1991 thus ending Soviet military presence in Hungary. With the Soviet Union gone the transition to a market economy began.

In 1997 in a national referendum 85% voted in favour of Hungary joining the NATO. A year later the European Union began negotiations with Hungary on full membership. In 1999 Hungary joined NATO. Hungary voted in favour of joining the EU, and joined in 2004.

Laos,

In 1955, the U.S. Department of Defense created a special Programs Evaluation Office to replace French support of the Royal Lao Army against the communist Pathet Lao as part of the U.S. containment policy devised by Brzezinski.

Laos was dragged into the Vietnam War, and the eastern parts of the country were invaded and occupied by the North Vietnamese Army (NVA), which used Laotian territory as a staging ground and supply route for its war against the South.

The result of these actions were a series of coups d'état and, ultimately, the Laotian Civil War between the Royal Laotian government and the communist Pathet Lao.

In 1975, the communist Pathet Lao, backed by the Soviet Union and the North Vietnamese Army (justified by the communist ideology of "proletarian internationalism"), overthrew the royalist government, forcing King Savang Vatthana to abdicate on December 2, 1975. He later died in captivity.

After taking control of the country, Pathet Lao's government renamed the country as the "Lao People's Democratic Republic" and signed agreements giving Vietnam the right to station military forces and to appoint advisers to assist in overseeing the country. Laos was ordered in the late 1970s by Vietnam to end relations with the People's Republic of China which cut the country off from trade with any country but Vietnam.

For the next 15 years, the Pathet Lao ran the country almost as a Vietnamese colony. Control by Vietnam and socialization were slowly replaced by a relaxation of economic restrictions in the 1980s and admission into ASEAN in 1997. In 2005, the United States established Normal Trade Relations with Laos, ending a protracted period of punitive import taxes

Today Laos is one of the poorest nations on earth and relies heavily on its citizens going to Thailand and Vietnam to find work. Many Prostitutes in Thailand preyed upon by narcissistic Foreigners, are Lao. Laos today is have heaven for western perverts and has one of the world’s largest Pedophile sources of children in the world.

Moldova,

(FAILURE) As a result of Ribbentrop-Molotov pact (Article 4 of the secret Annex to the Treaty), Bessarabia was annexed by the USSR, as part of the sphere of influence agreed with Nazi Germany. On June 26, 1940, Romania received an ultimatum from the Soviet Union, demanding the evacuation of the Romanian military and administration from Bessarabia and from the northern part of Bukovina, with an implied threat of invasion in the event of noncompliance. Shortly thereafter the Soviets attacked, Some 42,876 Romanian soldiers and officers were unaccounted for after the retreat and defeat by the Soviets. Later the Germans drove the Soviets out but the Soviet Union reconquered and reannexed the area in February-August 1944.
Along with the other peripheral Soviet republics, Moldova started to move towards independence from 1988 onwards; on August 31, 1989 a language law was passed, adopting the Latin alphabet for Moldovan and declaring it the state language of the MSSR.[32] The first free elections for the local parliament were held in February and March 1990.

After the attempted Moscow Putsch, Moldova declared its independence on August 27, 1991, and in December of that year signed to be a member of the post-Soviet Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) along with most of the former Soviet republics. Declaring itself a neutral state, it did not join the military branch of the CIS. At the end of that year, a former communist reformer, Mircea Snegur, won an unchallenged election for the presidency. Three months later, the country achieved formal recognition as an independent state at the United Nations.

Russian military stationed in the region (14th Army) intervened on the Transnistrian side; it also remained on Moldovan territory east of the Dniester after the end of the military conflict, despite signing international obligations to withdraw, and against the will of Moldovan government,[33][34]. They still remain stationed in Transnistria. Negotiations between the Transnistrian and Moldovan leaders have been going on under the mediation of the OSCE, Russia, and Ukraine; lately observers from the European Union and the USA have become involved.

The March 1994 referendum for a new constitution that stated the independence of the republic saw an overwhelming majority of voters in support.
In 2001, the country became a member of the WTO.

Relationships between Moldova and Russia deteriorated in November 2003 over a Russian proposal for the solution of the Transnistrian conflict, which Moldovan authorities refused to accept. In the following election, held in 2005, the Communist party made a formal 180 degree turn and was re-elected on a pro-Western platform,[citation needed] with Voronin being re-elected to a second term as a president. Since 1999, Moldova has constantly affirmed its desire to join the European Union,[35][36] and implement its first three-year Action Plan within the framework of the European Neighbourhood Policy (ENP) of the EU.

Mongolia,

The introduction of perestroika and glasnost in the USSR by Mikhail Gorbachev strongly influenced Mongolian politics even though Mongolia was a sovereign nation. The decline of communism in the Soviet Union and its collapse in Eastern Europe, combined with these two policies, were enough to lead to the peaceful Democratic Revolution of 1990. This, in turn, allowed Mongolia to begin engaging in economic and diplomatic relations with the Western world. The nation finished its transition from a communist state to a multi-party capitalist democracy with the ratification of a new constitution in 1992.
Government of Mongolia is characterized as a parliamentary democracy, which is governed under the Constitution of Mongolia that guarantees full freedom of expression, rights, worship and others. Media in Mongolia has public television and corporately owned newspapers. Mongolia has two main parties among many other parties. Until June 27, 2004, the predominant party in Mongolia was the social democratic Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party or abbreviated as the MPRP, a former communist party during the socialist republics. The main opposition party was the Democratic Party or DP, which controlled a governing coalition from 1996 to 2000. Some say, that Putin’s former KGB have come to the aid of the former Communist party.

Mozambique,

Nepal, Nicaragua, North Korea, Poland, Romania, Russia, the USSR and its republics, South Yemen, Yugoslavia, Venezuela, Vietnam. In addition, the Indian states of Kerala and West Bengal have had Marxist governments.

I could go one point to point, then you might be overwhlmed with facts and have get your Nut root to inform you of what your should think.

All these government under the political and economic systems of Marxism and its variants to communism have ALL failed, tperhaps two at best, partially may be making moderate economic success but had to incorporated Economic Capitalism to do anything at all. Yet, they politically are still Marxist and one party Toltarianian regimes, who will in their lust for power, like Putin and his far Overly dependent Oil economy, will deprive the people enough to once again fail. Even China is finding being Marxist and capitalist is a threat to their very power which it will be in the end. Unlike the buried in the same shrinking world of Sopviet empire dreams of Putib-ization, the Chinese are pragmatic extremely good business people, who will seek wealth over idelogy given time.

Some of these governments such as in Venezuela (who is giving more money away than his people are getting), Nicaragua ( failed the first time, now trying again with Hugo oil as long as it last) will fail in time, Hugo ambitions and Nortega inability to learn from his past failures will do them end. Of that i have no doubt.

Chile, Moldova and parts of India have been democratic in nature and maintained regular multiparty elections, while most governments claiming to be Marxist in nature have established one-party governments. All have had severe econimic times iun comparsion to Non-Marxist states.

P.S. Democracy growth since 1945, look it up, then you will see what is growing and what is not, learn something on you on for change.


Obviously, you fear globalization, Free Choice, Democarcy and of Course GW, the US and Patriot Act, I have no problem with Uncle Sam listens to our calls overseas, we make them several times a week. They will likely fall asleep if they are...

That is all!!