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hussainmehdi
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Aug 19 2008, 02:11 AM) *
No Bush did not. That was Richard Clarkes doing and they were investigated. And Ive not seen any evidence that the Bin Laden family is funding Usama.


According to the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States,
Clarke gave the final okay for the members of the bin Laden family living in the U.S. to fly to Saudi Arabia on Sept. 14, 2001.

Clarke had claimed under oath, "someone in the Bush Administration had asked for the flight and he consulted with the FBI",

However, the FBI denied they had a role in approving the flight for bin Laden's family as alleged by Clarke when FBI spokesman John Iannarelli said: "I can say unequivocally that the FBI had no role in facilitating these flights."


(above words were taken from wikipedia)

so, why first he said fbi?
and then, backed away?
and, then finally apologized, why?
is this the way to investigate such a big event???

and, of course, where is the investigation report as i said in my early comment.




dixon76710
QUOTE (hussainmehdi @ Aug 18 2008, 07:04 PM) *
According to the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States,
Clarke gave the final okay for the members of the bin Laden family living in the U.S. to fly to Saudi Arabia on Sept. 14, 2001.

Clarke had claimed under oath, "someone in the Bush Administration had asked for the flight and he consulted with the FBI",

However, the FBI denied they had a role in approving the flight for bin Laden's family as alleged by Clarke when FBI spokesman John Iannarelli said: "I can say unequivocally that the FBI had no role in facilitating these flights."


(above words were taken from wikipedia)


Can you not figure out that you just confirmed my statements and refuted your own?
dixon76710
QUOTE (hussainmehdi @ Aug 18 2008, 06:26 PM) *
No! i am not simply repeating what you said, but i have continuously been arguing with you what i said since you entered into the arena of debate for the first time. you have continuously been trying to protect terrorists, while i have continuously been trying to expose terrorists. the problem with you is: that you have two types of terrorists. one are those, who are your allies. and another one who are not your allies.

i say that: "terrorists are terrorists, and they do not deserve to be allied with."
while you say: "leave them...leave them, dont touch them...dont touch them, we have business with them."

so, this is your own way.
this is your way of thought.
and, of course, you are free to choose your arguments that suit you.
but, what suit you, does not fit on the basics of justice.
but, of course, justice is not important if business is involved. right?


Delusional fool!
hussainmehdi
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Aug 28 2008, 06:15 AM) *
Delusional fool!


Yes! i know, "delusional fool" is a milk that you keep in your fridge and drink it time to time, as per requirement.

you think that 'this is a key to success', you are right because no one ever told you that truth has a value. you can close your window, but you cannot shut down sun. you know this very well.

now, while you have no figures and fact as i requested previously, i can only hope that one day will come when you will realize that that your nose has been a little long.
dixon76710
Dude, that post made no sense whatsoever. Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and attribute it to your pigeon English as opposed to delusions. What figures and facts.
hussainmehdi
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Aug 28 2008, 09:03 AM) *
Dude, that post made no sense whatsoever. Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and attribute it to your pigeon English as opposed to delusions. What figures and facts.

oh, i beg you. please do not give me your 'benefit of doubt' because 'benefit of doubt' is a sowrd of saud that always falls on the wrong side.

pigeon english???
what do you mean??
pigeons have long noses?
you mean elephants!!!


facts???
fact means: investigation report, date of submission in senate committee, date of publishing in news papers, and the reason as to why fbi refused to accept that they were involved in the flights.
dixon76710
QUOTE (hussainmehdi @ Aug 27 2008, 10:54 PM) *
facts???
fact means: investigation report, date of submission in senate committee, date of publishing in news papers, and the reason as to why fbi refused to accept that they were involved in the flights.


The FBI simply interviewed them before they left. They didnt have anything to do with their travel plans. That was Richard Clarke. And they were investigated in that since the embassy bombings, the entire family had been investigated, looking for current financial connections with Osama. The family has 600 members, many of them heavily involved in foreign investments here in the US and elsewhere. The few that were known to be involved with Al Qaeda are not the ones who ever spent any time in the US.
hussainmehdi
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Aug 28 2008, 10:25 AM) *
The FBI simply interviewed them before they left. They didnt have anything to do with their travel plans. That was Richard Clarke. And they were investigated in that since the embassy bombings, the entire family had been investigated, looking for current financial connections with Osama. The family has 600 members, many of them heavily involved in foreign investments here in the US and elsewhere. The few that were known to be involved with Al Qaeda are not the ones who ever spent any time in the US.

simply interviewed???
who was clarke to decide on behalf of whole american nation and give laden family clearence certificate?
where is clarke's investigation report?
to whom, clarke submitted his report?
who approved and okeyed this report?
who was satisfied with this report?
you?
american nation?
or,
house of saud?
or,
bush?
dixon76710
QUOTE (hussainmehdi @ Aug 28 2008, 06:07 AM) *
simply interviewed???
who was clarke to decide on behalf of whole american nation and give laden family clearence certificate?


This is America. People are free to leave the country if they so choose. No "clearence certificate"s required.
hussainmehdi
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Aug 28 2008, 06:37 PM) *
This is America. People are free to leave the country if they so choose. No "clearence certificate"s required.

not required for terrorists too?
ordinary people... fingerprinting ???
laden family...no fingerprinting...no certificate???
where is the investigation report, i repeat???
what was the purpose of preparation of investigation report???
can you produce the written authentic purpose of preparation of investigation report alongwith authority no. and date?
purpose fulfilled???
dixon76710
QUOTE (hussainmehdi @ Aug 28 2008, 09:12 AM) *
not required for terrorists too?
ordinary people... fingerprinting ???
laden family...no fingerprinting...no certificate???
where is the investigation report, i repeat???
what was the purpose of preparation of investigation report???
can you produce the written authentic purpose of preparation of investigation report alongwith authority no. and date?
purpose fulfilled???


Dude, intelligence agencies dont issue "Certificate"s and "investigation report"s on individuals. What did you want them to do? Throw them in jail for having the last name Bin Laden?
hussainmehdi
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Aug 29 2008, 01:27 AM) *
Dude, intelligence agencies dont issue "Certificate"s and "investigation report"s on individuals. What did you want them to do? Throw them in jail for having the last name Bin Laden?

you said on post#47 that:

"No Bush did not. That was Richard Clarkes doing and they were investigated. And Ive not seen any evidence that the Bin Laden family is funding Usama."

i just requested the investigation report that you mentioned.

"you have not seen any evidence"....?? on what basis???

would you like to share the evidences of your basis here??

i did want them to properly investigate all those ladens and issue the report in the media to assure its authenticity.
is my request invalid??
dixon76710
QUOTE (hussainmehdi @ Aug 29 2008, 12:49 AM) *
you said on post#47 that:

"No Bush did not. That was Richard Clarkes doing and they were investigated. And Ive not seen any evidence that the Bin Laden family is funding Usama."

i just requested the investigation report that you mentioned.

"you have not seen any evidence"....?? on what basis???

would you like to share the evidences of your basis here??

i did want them to properly investigate all those ladens and issue the report in the media to assure its authenticity.
is my request invalid??


Yes it is as Ive already said "Dude, intelligence agencies dont issue "Certificate"s and "investigation report"s on individuals."
hussainmehdi
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Aug 29 2008, 04:24 PM) *
Yes it is as Ive already said "Dude, intelligence agencies dont issue "Certificate"s and "investigation report"s on individuals."

individual???
more than 3000 innocent people have died, and you call it individual ???
what are you talking about?

this is even an international concern.
every citizen of this world has right to demand the investigation report on account of laden family conducted by Clarke.
this is not individual at all.
dixon76710
QUOTE (hussainmehdi @ Aug 29 2008, 04:57 AM) *
individual???
more than 3000 innocent people have died, and you call it individual ???
what are you talking about?

this is even an international concern.
every citizen of this world has right to demand the investigation report on account of laden family conducted by Clarke.
this is not individual at all.


Clarke is just the one who arranged their flights, not the one who conducted any investigations.
hussainmehdi
QUOTE (dixon76710 @ Aug 29 2008, 06:41 PM) *
Clarke is just the one who arranged their flights, not the one who conducted any investigations.


According to the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States,
Clarke gave the final okay for the members of the bin Laden family living in the U.S. to fly to Saudi Arabia on Sept. 14, 2001.

if, clarke was just the one who arranged flights, then it means, he did not have authority to okay the flights. so, who okayed clarke to okay the flights???

clarke was not in a position to arrange and okay the flights on his own.
so, what was the basis of his okay?
if, he okayed on his own, then he must have written down a report. where is that report? to whom it was submitted?

who authorized clarke to arrange all that? were the orders verbal or written?
if, it were verbal, then its illegal and unjustified.
if, it were written, then where are they? who were the orderer/orderers?

So?
hussainmehdi
i want to share my strong feelings on this memorial day of 911. please allow me to stand up with the americans specially with those families who suffered on that sad day, against terrorists and criminals.
hussainmehdi
president bush says:

"Confidence in our financial system and in its institutions is essential to the smooth operation of our economy, and recently that confidence has been shaken."

as an ordinary citizen of the world, i hereby completely reject this foolish statement. this foolish statement is itself an effort to cause of confidence lose.

how president of the united state can speak such a harsh words on media?? this is highly regretful. even, nejad has never used such a harsh words for the united stated, but the president of the united states himself is using such an unacceptable words.

mr.president! do you know that how your words make negative effects throughout the world against the united states???

who actually is the speech writer of mr.bush???
ben laden family or ben laden himself???

i have never heard such a negative words from any president of the united states. thats completely unacceptable.
hussainmehdi
bush is a son of businessman,
and he remained son of businessman.

regretfully,
bush never was the son of the nation.

he represented businessmen class,
he never thought for a second about those who live on streats and in little homes with little income.

bush lives in ranch,
and he safegaurds ranchers.

please vote for ranchers and go home.
hussainmehdi
Bush said in an interview with ABC's World News on Monday:


"I think I was unprepared for war. In other words, I didn't campaign and say, 'Please vote for me, I'll be able to handle an attack'."

"I didn't anticipate war.”

"A lot of people put their reputations on the line and said the weapons of mass destruction is a reason to remove Saddam Hussein."

"That's not a do-over, but I wish the intelligence had been different, I guess."

Bush also expressed regret that the global financial crisis has cost jobs, saying, "I'm sorry it's happening, of course."

"I'm sure some people voted for Barack Obama because of me." said Bush.
hussainmehdi
Based on a US Department of Agriculture study conducted on 45,600 households representing approximately 118 million households in the US, some 69,000 American children were identified as having "very low food security."

The study showed that one in eight Americans accounting for nearly 11.9 million people, went hungry at some point last year.

James Weill, president of the Food Research and Action Center, said that the problem would be even bigger in 2008. He noted, "Based on the increased demand we're seeing this year at food stamp agencies, emergency kitchens, Women, Infants and Children clinics, across the entire social service support structure, there's every reason to think the increases in the number of hungry people will be very, very large."

Thanks Mr.Bush.
kitchen of your farmhouse, of course, is full of every delicious food stuff.

you are happy, its enough.
isn't it?
hussainmehdi
Mr. Bush says:

“Evolution is an interesting subject. I don't think it's incompatible with the scientific proof that there is evolution.”

What do you mean by evolution ?
Darwin thing ??

So, please answer that why rats are compatible in any part of the world including Greenland, but why not Kiwis ???

Why Kiwis failed to evolve ??
Why Penguins are not compatible with Arabian Ocean ???

Why more than 90% of world Saffron is only produced in Iran ??
Why Saffron is not compatible with Arabia ???

Where is evolution ???
Mankind couldn’t notice a change in this respect for thousands of years ???

Do you know Mr.Bush ?

That, mankind produces various keys for one lock,
But, does not produce various locks for one key ???

Do you know Mr. Current President of the United States,

That, one instrument can produce millions of tunes,
But, millions of tunes cannot produce one/single instrument ???

Mr.Bush! you failed to avail the opportunity of meetings with God, the same way as you have failed to use white house to grant one/single moment of happiness to the people of the world.

If, you did avail, you would ask question about evolution,
And, perhaps God would answer you that,
There is evolution of course, but in tunes not in instrument.

Mr.Bush! you have a face of angel, how can’t I believe that you have a heart of angel ???
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