I watched Obama in his so called faith town hall.
His comment on gay marriage offended me deeply.

Marriage is between a man and a woman.

Democrats think they will always get the gay vote because we have nowhere else to go. Here is where we have to go. Not to the polls! His answer was exactly the same as a right wing fundamentalist republican. Pandering to that fascist SCUM will not cut it.

He will win anyway, but I don't think it is worth the bother to vote for that two faced batard.

That is what a lot of ignorant wingnuts do, decide their votes on one small, narrow minded issue.

You should vote for McCain. The only people who wear $520 shoes to the supermarket are gays, pimps and John McCain.

I just can't get excited about Obama. I think he is a big bore. I know he will win without my vote and I feel better that I didn't endorse him with my vote because I expect him to be a big failure. But at least it will be him rather than McCain who can pick the court.

Obama isn't guaranteed to win the election. If you don't support Obama you should have a better reason than boredom. McCain supported Bush 95%, if he's elected it will be the same old gang of crooks and liars as in the fraudulent Bush administration, in other words, Bush's third term. Is that what you want? McCain represents the past. Obama represents the future. Obama is smarter, better educated, more energetic, a better speaker, better able to communicate with a more diverse range of individuals and on a wider range of issues.

I really don't like him. Watching him in the "faith" meeting made me sick. His promotion of Bush's faith based programs which do not properly separate church and state are not democratic party core values. I was excited about Hillary Clinton. She is a real leader. Obama is really not experienced enough to be president and he doesn't have the balls Hillary does. The court is too important to elect McCain. I would now be voting in a sure thing red state anyway. It won't make a difference. I might do it holding my nose if I was voting in a state with a real contest. The truth is I dislike Obama so much now I won't even be upset if he loses. What a crappy choice. Why did the democrats nominate this charlatan?

BTW, you Obamamaniacs can eat my shorts! This isn't a rock concert.

Also, health care reform is really my most important issue. I don't trust Obama will help. He doesn't have the passion for that issue that Hillary did.

Wait, are you calling the Christians 'fascist scum'?

But I do agree with you on one thing, Barrack is a wuss.

Over here the impression is very obvoius. Mc Cain is an obvious Bushite and therefore not radical enough to make any changes for the better other than follow the path beaten by Bush etc.

Obama on the other hand is seen as the new dawn of a new era in the USA and would be very popular around the world as opposed to Mc Cain. The only problem with Obama I see is a very worrying lack of experience and as Foy said effectivly a WUSS. That might in the long run be worse than yet another Bush Admin.

H Clinton ? naa she was just hoping to catch brownie points based on hubby Bill and alluding herself to a Thatcher like image.

Either way the democrats get to parade the first Black or Female President in history and claim everything will be different, well it won't I am sure of that. It just looks like an obvious spin to other people and a cheap headline.

Now i'm not an american but the only candidate I have heard in the past 10 years worth listening to was Ron Paul. Far too truthful and sensible to win though.

By the way what is it with the Family Dynastys and your leaders ? ###### guys its almost Monarchistic

OK. That shows the quality of what you know. Nothing.

You mean like the royals in Europe all being related?

Hardly.

I was being tounge in cheek dude and yes the European Royals are a bunch of inbreds and no I don't like it. By the way there is related and "related", you just covered one version there presumably the bloodline, the other version I would be happy to debate.


Like I said before at least he was prepared to say what HE thought rather than being instructed what to say. Again we beg to differ which is fine, although I fail to see any sensible comments from you yet other than sweeping statements/insults that quite frankly make you sound like a spoilt child. (which i take it your not)

Then, you need to read further on my posts.

I'm insulting to those that are insulting, of which you seem to have a plenty. What I see of you so far:

An elitist Brit giving another country advice in a most insulting manner.
Snotty replies from you.
You need to study your spelling.
Know nothing about politics in the U.S. and thinks the most asinine and witless person to have run in our election earns high marks.

Consider this from a "spoilt" child to a snooty nose-in-the-air Brit (my view of you):

Just to set the record straight here mate You insulted me in your first couple of reply posts. You expect me to put up with that shite ? forget it mate. if you felt insulted good ! it was my intention as im sure it was yours.

I don't have a problem with spelling and i'm not fussed with the odd error on a forum. Again a petty jibe by you. As far as the nose in the air bit cheers ive never been called that before

I know something of american politics albeit not like you guys getting it 24/7 I smile that you have so poor opinion of Ron Paul but thats up to you of course

Now ive got to ask you if you think Bush is NOT asinine or witless ???

Just to remind you that i'm using English English not American English some of my words/style of debate will differ a lot from yours, i don't apologise for that

Shall we move on ?

I insulted you AFTER reading your insulting remarks about (1) our sitting President, (2) your implication that our government instituted 9/11 in which 3,000 of our citizens were murdered.
I don't know what you are referring to here. ??? What apology????


Yes. But, let's get something things straight first. (1) I'm not a dude. (2) I gives as I get. When you insult my President and my country, don't expect smiles and bows nor even courtesy. We are in a time of war, and I take the safety of this country very seriously. Apparently, so do other countries because guess who they howl for help from when they get into trouble? Russia? England? No. I think you know the answer.

Yes, I take the sovereignty and safety of this country very seriously, and am glad to have had the President we've had for the past 8 years despite the denegeration from lefties and know-nothings. Run him down, cast doubt on his integrity with stupid conspiracy theories and you raise my hackles.

It's looking grim for Barry O.
Thaiquila has jumped ship. Though he didn't help much for John Kerry either.

Bush SHOULD be insulted by everyone in the world! He should be in impeaced. He should be in jail. He is a war criminal. He used 911 to lie to his own people and take us to a ruinous war based on LIES and yes he knew they were lies. People like SoloNav are TRAITORS to true American values.

Yes, I think Obama is not great. But he is better than McSame, an affirmation of the disaster we have had for the last 8 years. Don't be fooled by the latest polls. Obama is a shoe in.

Just had to reply to this again when I found this on the Internet about Paul. This is your hero at work, englishoak:
Click here.

Cheers for the link Solo it was an interesting clip. I just tells me that Messer Paul is quite happily dipping into the pot for his constituency. Just like all the rest, ho hum whats new ............. hardly my hero ..... lets not start with the sarcasm pal !!

First off i can't see anywhere where I kicked off insulting your sitting or even standing President. Although I do happen to think he is the worst leader the USA has had since Nixon. Your claim about 3000 citizens is not quite correct but near enough. in case you don't know the UK was no2 for citizens lost. I have every right to have an opinion and how dare you infer that our citizens are any less important to me than yours are to you.

You are sitting there pretending to be at war when in fact you have no idea what it is like to actually live in the middle of one. You say that everyone comes running to the US when in fact your glorious leader has taken you to war illegally. As has our government. As TQ said Bush should be IN JAIL along with Blair. It makes me puke when I hear hyporcritical BS coming from an American so called Patriot who refuses to even notice how counter productive to your national security your glorious leader has been. Shame on YOU.

I won't even go into the amount of Troops we have lost in friendly fire ...... ultimately all dead because of your wonderful President and our pathetic ex lap dog Blair. This time I promise you Thatcher would have told Bush Jnr to stick it. The last time we were there Thatcher wanted to finish Saddam but the US refused to see it through, Bush Snr was told then it was a serious mistake by the British. And also The US Military.



The US is enjoying an era of unpopularity which peaked 2 years ago and has only been dropping since your own system has ensured a reprieve from this meglomanic. Bush will be remembered for what he is...... a mass murderer acting out of self interest and against the American People. As will our own Mr Blair. I hope to see in my lifetime both Blair and Bush on trial for their war crimes, in the Hague just like all the rest.

The Bush admin even insisted on on putting on trial and executing Saddam even though the war was declared illegal, which makes his subsiquent execution illegal.

The so called war on terrors first step was to go to war with a non terrorist country with absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 the Bush admin at the time needed to do something, anything for public approval, so they picked Iraq, after all they are Muslims right ? so they "gotta be gawd damm terrorists", pathetic. Deny that I DARE you.

Meanwhile the supposed backing and real Terrorist money supply comes from Saudi Arabia. Who are the business partners of the Bushes? The Bin Ladin family. When there was a ban on all flights to and from the US who was flown out ? The Bin laden family. Now If Bush wants to impress me then he wants to get his asss into Saudi. Of course it will never happen because of the oil. In a war such as this you go straight for the head and real moneymen, anything else is just a waste of time. Thats why it can't and won't be won.

No doubt you believe the war is in the name of Freedom etc......... you lost that in the Patriot Act " what a name for it"

You have no idea or will to know the truth of how the land of the free has been eroded to an almost Facist state. But you keep on believing what you want and go ahead and bleat away like a sheep. I have to say I have tried to be civil but I guess it's a waste of time talking to a drone.


I would'nt piss on Bush if he was on fire.That by the way WAS an insult.

Hows your hackles now boyyy?

You're welcome to your wrong opinion.

Apparently, you don't read posts closely. I'm not a boyyyyyy. Or are you in your cups right now?

Still not prepared to answer the questions then ? too hard for you to understand ? Don't get your above jibe but whatever.

Which questions?

All I saw were complaints and opinions. Or, were you trying to goad a response? I don't respond to goads.

Jibe?

I just had a look at your posts, seems you don't do conversation or debate, if you can't work my questions above then your not worth explaining to.

Jibe look it up.

Are you just being dense? I know what jibe mean. I'm asking what you consider to be a jibe.
What "questions" did you ask? I answered the one about Bush. ? Didn't like my answer?

I think I remember you when you and I used to post here several years ago.

Concerning the posts, you've not looked deep enough. I don't debate as much as I used to. My lifestyle has changed.

Still waiting (drumming fingers on desk). What question(s) did you ask?

Aww forget it.

Why do you want to forget it? I've asked YOU a simple question. Can't you answer it?

Or, are you perhaps wrong in using your insulting manner in asserting that I wasn't answering a question that you'd previously asked?

wow ! as usually SoloNav exposes heeeer self as being lobotomized brainwashed FoxNews / Oreally crony !

not surprising though that she is quick to put down any resistance to that Propoganda.


Ron Paul is NOTHING ?

hahahahaha

you amaze me even more.

Ron Paul is the ONLY man who makes some sense in this sham called US Presidential Elections !
which is nothing else than CRF / Murcdoch / Rockfeller controlled corporate fascism country


Scott Ritter: Weapons of Mass Delusion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqoJHOSrjQo

Scott Ritter on U.S. Iran Relations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWrmXzVg0vU

Ron Paul and Scott Ritter : why the USA shouldnt go to war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrJSQ_9xjvM


"Fascists condemn pacifists" says Ritter !

Scott Ritter on Fascism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A48lP4PIVKQ

No i'm not wasting any more effort on you.

Ok I'm Wrong whatever floats your boat.

Now thats cleared up you can go back to "sleep" stay in ignorant bliss and live happy ever after.

Thank you.






Errrr, are you being rude? And, insulting?

Or words to that effect.

No I was'nt being rude or even insulting. Gently sarcastic tinged with pity and a little sadness yes.

Don't take offence Solo it's not your fault perse'.

That's a relief! For a while I thought it was my fault that you were being rude and insulting, sarcastic and pitying and sad.

Thaiquila! Taiquila! Thaiquila!

Do you not like me anymore? Who is the scum, I must know!

Clarify!