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See here. Have you heard that ACORN has now moved into Texas? Bless Obama's heart.
Local 2 Investigates Dead Voters

POSTED: 11:16 am CDT October 9, 2008
UPDATED: 9:08 am CDT October 10, 2008
HOUSTON -- Note: The following story is a verbatim transcript of an Investigators story that aired on Thursday, Oct. 8, 2008, on KPRC Local 2 at 10 p.m.

Local 2 investigates dead voters.

The push to register voters for this year's presidential election is breaking records.

More than 1.9 million people are registered to vote in Harris County alone.

But how many of the people listed on the voter roll are actually eligible to cast a ballot?

Investigative reporter Amy Davis shows you how hundreds of voters could sway this year's election -- voters who are not even alive.

"All-in-all, a great person, a great woman, just a wonderful person" is how Alexis Guidry described her mother to Local 2 Investigates.

"As far back as I can remember, they've always voted in the election," Guidry said of her parents.

The March 2008 Primary was no exception. Voting records show Alexis' mom, Gloria Guidry, cast her ballot in person near her South Houston home.

"It was just very shocking, a little unsettling," said Alexis Guidry.

It's unsettling because Gloria Guidry died of cancer 10 months before the March Primary.

"She'd be very upset," Guidry said when asked what her mom would think.

Trent Seibert, of Texas Watchdog, says you should be too.

"This is really disquieting. It's concerning. It's worrisome," said Seibert.

He heads up the non-partisan news group on the web.

Texas Watchdog compared Harris County's voter registration roll with the Social Security death index and found more than 4,000 matches -- registered voters that, it appears, are already dead.

Some of them, like Henderson Hill's late wife Linda, voted postmortem.

"I would like to know who did it, myself," Hill told Davis.

We don't know who used Linda Hill's or Gloria Guidry's IDs to vote, but we do know if their names had been purged from voter rolls after they died, using their IDs wouldn't have worked.

"This is a red flag. No matter where you are, this should set off alarm bells," Seibert said. "Someone needs to take a look at this."

Local 2 Investigates took the information to the Harris County Voter Registrar.

"We just kind of work with the systems that we're allowed to," explained George Hammerlein, the director of Harris County Voter Registration.

The county's system for culling deceased voters from the roll seems painfully primitive.

We watched employees clip obituaries from the newspaper and sort through probate records for names matching those on the roll. But, Hammerlein says while fraud is a concern, for his office, disenfranchising voters is a bigger one.

"We do all we can, but you know we'd rather err on the side of leaving people on the roll instead of taking them off inadvertently," he said.

But could that cautious "better safe than sorry" standard sway an election some say will be a close one?

Texas Watchdog found 4,462 registered voters who appear to be deceased.

In 2000, George Bush won the presidential election by a mere 537 votes in Florida.

"We've never had any evidence there's a concerted attempt at fraud," Hammerlein told Local 2.

But there is evidence the state agency in charge of ensuring only eligible voters can vote is not.

The State Auditor's Office conducted an audit of the voter registration system at the Secretary of State's Office last November.

Auditors identified 49,049 registered voters state-wide who may have been ineligible to vote. Approximately 23,576 may have been deceased and another 23,114 were possible felons (note by Solo--who aren't allowed to vote). And they found more than 2,359duplicate records.

The auditor did not find any instances in which potentially ineligible voters actually voted, but they wrote, "Although the Secretary of State's office has processes to identify many ineligible voters and remove them from the State's voter registration list, improvements can be made."

Almost a year after this audit, we wanted to know if the Secretary of State has made any improvements. Have they added any safeguards to the process?

No one from that office would talk to us on camera, but the Director of Elections told us, "We'd rather err in leaving someone on the roll than taking someone off."

"If there's something wrong here, if there's something amiss, this is the worst election to have that happen, "Seibert warned.

And Guidry agrees.

"I don't think it's a matter that she would take lightly," she said of her mom.

In what she calls an historic election, Guidry says her mother wouldn't want anyone speaking for her.

"I think she would definitely do all that she could just to make sure things were on the up and up."

We sent the information we showed you to the Director of Elections in Austin. She said her office refers any credible allegation of election fraud to the Attorney General for investigation.

She said the cases we presented would be felony violations.

Visit www.texaswatchdog.org for more information about how Texas Watchdog found dead voters on the rolls.


Yep! This is the man I want for President!!!
Thaiquila
The election won't even be close. Sorry for your loss.
SoloNav
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Oct 12 2008, 03:19 PM) *
The election won't even be close. Sorry for your loss.

Then, you approve of these methods, TQ? Is this what your side has to resort to in order to have a "landslide?"

In a word, yes.

Sad. Sad....to have to proud of something like this.

I'm not too sure your guy is going to win...........you've been wrong every time in an election. I can remember one time when you said you would vote for McCain. Wanna have me post it? smile.gif
Grizzly
No where in that article did it state that ACORN--or anyone else for that matter--caused that. Besides that, I would like to know who these deceased voters voted for--note the article did not reveal that too.

How does it feel to be sweating bullets, Solo? No Diebold to continue with unethical voting processes? What a shame. 015.gif
SoloNav
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Oct 13 2008, 07:15 AM) *
No where in that article did it state that ACORN--or anyone else for that matter--caused that. Besides that, I would like to know who these deceased voters voted for--note the article did not reveal that too.

How does it feel to be sweating bullets, Solo? No Diebold to continue with unethical voting processes? What a shame. 015.gif

Do your research, Grizz. ACORN has only benefited the Democrats in their registrations. If you don't agree, give links to prove otherwise.

Remember they have been caught on tape saying they were telling the folks to vote for Obama. Try again. Sweating bullets? My side isn't...........because we're not having to cheat to win. Now, Jessie Jackson is now defending ACORN. Why would he be doing this? (Hint. Hint. Who benefits from ACORN? ) Who gives $$ to ACORN? Obama. Who was involved with them as a beginning "community organizer? Obama. Who was their legal eagle? Obama. Democrats are morally bankrup to have to resort to this to win elections. Your side is making the case against your implications here, Grizz, and you're digging your own grave by such uninformed allegations.

Why not use issues to win? Because Democrats would lose. Example: Obama's "95% tax reduction" is just a ruse to cover the fact that he's trying to increase welfare and will have to raise taxes to do so. Your side is a pack of liars. They have to use fraud in order to win.

Still hanging on to Florida as an excuse for your bitterness? laugh.gif laugh.gif

Your comments are.......Hilarious! They are a study in ignorance. laugh.gif
Thaiquila
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I can remember one time when you said you would vote for McCain. Wanna have me post it?

Yes, show me that.
I did say I am not voting. That's true. My vote would be in a RED STATE with no hope so as an expat I won't bother.
BTW, when I was saying I don't care, this was BEFORE Palin. McCain's picking Palin made me consider him the lowest form of un-American scum imaginable. Putting our nation at risk of being led by this vaginal idiot! No way! I still think HILLARY CLINTON is who we need, but between Obama and McCain, the traitor, there is NO CONTEST.
Grizzly
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Oct 13 2008, 09:41 AM) *
Do your research, Grizz. ACORN has only benefited the Democrats in their registrations. If you don't agree, give links to prove otherwise.
Do your research again--using your link, your news article, I would like to know where ACORN is involved with that present matter concerning this thread that you started. Your innuendos does not necessarily constitute fact. Sorry.

QUOTE (SoloNav @ Oct 13 2008, 09:41 AM) *
Remember they have been caught on tape saying they were telling the folks to vote for Obama. Try again. Sweating bullets? My side isn't...........because we're not having to cheat to win. Now, Jessie Jackson is now defending ACORN. Why would he be doing this? (Hint. Hint. Who benefits from ACORN? ) Who gives $$ to ACORN? Obama. Who was involved with them as a beginning "community organizer? Obama. Who was their legal eagle? Obama. Democrats are morally bankrup to have to resort to this to win elections. Your side is making the case against your implications here, Grizz, and you're digging your own grave by such uninformed allegations.

Why not use issues to win? Because Democrats would lose. Example: Obama's "95% tax reduction" is just a ruse to cover the fact that he's trying to increase welfare and will have to raise taxes to do so. Your side is a pack of liars. They have to use fraud in order to win.

Still hanging on to Florida as an excuse for your bitterness? laugh.gif laugh.gif

Your comments are.......Hilarious! They are a study in ignorance. laugh.gif
Me? You're a study in being pathetic. Like I said before: You go to the FBI web site and find out this huge number of people that were indicted on vote fraud for ACORN. Let me know the present number, OK?

In the meantime, here is a phone number you can use to lull yourself just incase you are out of sleepy time tea. 020.gif
Tokis-phoenix
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Oct 13 2008, 02:15 PM) *
No where in that article did it state that ACORN--or anyone else for that matter--caused that. Besides that, I would like to know who these deceased voters voted for--note the article did not reveal that too.

How does it feel to be sweating bullets, Solo? No Diebold to continue with unethical voting processes? What a shame. 015.gif


I agree, Solonaffs article/OP is worthless without the important specific information- otherwise the thread is based purely on assumption (and we all know the troubles that can lead to).
SoloNav
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Oct 13 2008, 08:44 AM) *
Do your research again--using your link, your news article, I would like to know where ACORN is involved with that present matter concerning this thread that you started. Your innuendos does not necessarily constitute fact. Sorry.
laugh.gif laugh.gif No, Grizz, as usual you are wrong. You didn't follow the links within my link. Do your own research before you start mouthing back. You're just too easy to confound.
...John Medford said there must have been a mix-up when he was told his father -– who died in 2006 –- had voted in the March Democratic primary.....

....Instances of dead voters’ names being used to cast ballots were most frequent in three elections, the November 2004 general election, the November 2006 general election and the March 2008 Democratic primary, the analysis found.....

....The findings come as the group ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, has faced scrutiny in multiple states for allegedly improper voter registrations — including players for the Dallas Cowboys, not in the Lone Star State, but in Nevada. The group’s Nevada offices were raided by state officials earlier this week.....


Which party is it that is fighting for against the decision requiring voters to show driver's licenses without a photo identification, or ID without a photo? It's not Republicans.

ACORN Is A Member Of America Votes, A New 527 Organization Coordinating Election Activity Of Many Liberal Interest Groups Collectively Dubbed The “Shadow Democratic Party. “Collectively dubbed the ‘shadow Democratic Party,’ American Coming Together, the Media Fund and a handful of other groups work on different key objectives to try to boost the Democratic election machine. While ACT focuses on grassroots voter turnout, the Media Fund, headed by former Clinton administration official Harold Ickes, is focused exclusively on advertising. Overseeing their activities and making sure the two groups don’t duplicate their efforts is a third and smaller 527 group known as America Votes.” (America Votes Website, www.americavotes.net, Accessed 8/6/04; Amy Keller, “Entreaties Lead to Flood Of 527 Input,” Roll Call, 4/7/04.)
If you don't believe me, Google it. You do have Google on your toolbar, don't you? ph34r.gif

You know, Grizz, I've seen you have arguments like this in the past with people on Jane, and you've lost each time, but you keep on with your stupid remarks as if you haven't been disproven.

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Me? You're a study in being pathetic. Like I said before: You go to the FBI web site and find out this huge number of people that were indicted on vote fraud for ACORN. Let me know the present number, OK?
No, it's you that needs to find evidence to prove all the stories wrong being reported in all media outlets about ACORN being investigated. Your having posted a 2007 website laugh.gif disproves nothing about other than you can't do a proper Google search to support your case. The evidence is on your shoulders. You are the one disputing the news stories about this, not me.

I would say that your pants are on fire right now as evidenced by your emotional response and inability to recognize how shoddy your defense is. You continue to make yourself look like a fool. ph34r.gif
SoloNav
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Oct 13 2008, 08:25 AM) *
Yes, show me that.
Posted on: Apr 15 2004, 09:26 PM
There have been republicans in the past that I can admire something about: Barry Goldwater for his libertarian tendencies, Nelson Rockefeller, John McCain.

And, there is another one in which you said that you'd vote for McCain if he were picked to be a VP for Kerry or Gore (can't remember which) because you admired his bravery as a war hero.

However, since you've now qualified any statement BEFORE Palin, a good excuse, there is no use in my spending my time in finding the last post.

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BTW, when I was saying I don't care, this was BEFORE Palin. McCain's picking Palin made me consider him the lowest form of un-American scum imaginable. Putting our nation at risk of being led by this vaginal idiot! No way! I still think HILLARY CLINTON is who we need, but between Obama and McCain, the traitor, there is NO CONTEST.
But, TQ, the last I heard Hill had a vagina as well. Are you implying something different? blink.gif And, how about the Vagina Pelosi? Gawd! What a do-do.
Thaiquila
McCain has changed into something DIRTY, DISGUSTING, and HATEFUL. Yes, this is his last chance in his lifetime to be president and he will fail. So sad. So sad he has defiled his previously good name. The Palin pick was DAMNING. And now the hate campaign which leaves the country even MORE DIVIDED making it harder for President Obama to govern.
SoloNav
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Oct 13 2008, 03:18 PM) *
McCain has changed into something DIRTY, DISGUSTING, and HATEFUL. Yes, this is his last chance in his lifetime to be president and he will fail. So sad. So sad he has defiled his previously good name. The Palin pick was DAMNING. And now the hate campaign which leaves the country even MORE DIVIDED making it harder for President Obama to govern.

What about the Vagina Hillary, and the Vagina Pelosi?

President Obama? I guess you guys don't even bother to vote now? When did you join the party, Comrade?

To return to the thread: ACORN and Obama are stealing votes in Houston. Today, it was revealed that ACORN had hired an ex-felon as director whose speciality is ID-theft. Now, why would ACORN hire someone like that? To steal identities? Yuh think? And, for.........Republicans? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

And, here is the story about Hillary saying their election was stolen by Obama: Hillary-Dems' Case that Obama Stole Primary Election
They write of polls being faked-up to show false results favoring Obama, and of ongoing, nation-wide investigations coming to a possibly-RICO crescendo soon. Startling stuff.
Oh, no, they didn't just say that!?? Obama wouldn't do that!

Sure, ACORN is squeaky clean and all Republicans are trying to keep dead people, and the Dallas Cowboys, from voting.
Grizzly
QUOTE (Solo)
laugh.gif laugh.gif No, Grizz, as usual you are wrong. You didn't follow the links within my link. Do your own research before you start mouthing back. You're just too easy to confound.

( laugh.gif laugh.gif x4) Show me ACORN in that pdf file! Where's ACORN at?! (thinking--SHESSH! I hope that I don't have to rewrite this again!) 034.gif
ustrader
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Oct 14 2008, 06:18 AM) *
McCain has changed into something DIRTY, DISGUSTING, and HATEFUL JUST LIKE ME.

SoloNav
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Oct 13 2008, 04:24 PM) *
( laugh.gif laugh.gif x4) Show me ACORN in that pdf file! Where's ACORN at?! (thinking--SHESSH! I hope that I don't have to rewrite this again!) 034.gif

Not going to do any of the research for you, Grizz. It's there on the page for you to see. HINT: It says Texas Watchdog. If you can't or won't, not my problem

Errrrr, the original post didn't have a pdf. file for a link. It was article on a website. Are you mixing up who you are talking to??? blink.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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