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john10001
I find the US election really fascinating and have a few points to make.

I have seen a lot of sexism, racism and ageism from the democrat side in the US election.

Sexism

A lot of feminists on the democrat side seem to think that feminism must be linked to some sort of left wing viewpoint. Sarah Palin has taken a lot of sexist hate from women on the left and thrown it back in their faces. She doesn't subscribe to the view that to be a feminist you must be on the left and also doesn't believe she has to be tied to her own party on everything and that's a good thing in my opinion. She is redefining feminism. I think Palin is very much her own person and knows her own mind. I think she's a lot like Margaret Thatcher except she's a lot younger, and she's also a foxy looking Hockey mum.

Ageism

John McCain has also gotten comments that he's too old and frail. In my opinion Obama is too young and weak and is wet behind the ears and lacking judgement. Winston Churchill was just shy of 77 years age when he took office for his third and final term, and 80 when he left. John McCain is only 72. Is anyone going to dare to tell me that Sir Winston Churchill was too old to take office for his third term in 1951?

I see a lot of similarities between John McCain and Winston Churchill in that they have both served their country and put their lives on the line. McCain suffering as a P.O.W. under the Viet Kong and Churchill and my country Great Britain faced the darkest hour standing alone against the threat of Nazi invasion while having the crap bombed out of us on a daily basis during the Battle of Britain and the blitz. They have both stood alone and both have a lot of backbone.

I see McCain as someone with a lot of experience, wisdom and good judgement. As for being frail or too old, he has the scars on his back from being tortured while a P.O.W. so I'd hardly call him frail but extremely strong and a courageous patriotic American.

Racism

I believe that there will be a very small percentage of blacks in America that will vote Republican not Democrat and that small percentage would be people with a better education. I believe based on everything I have seen, read and heard so far this year that a large percentage of blacks voting for Obama are voting for him simply because of the colour of his skin not the content of his character. Wouldn't you class this as racism?

I believe there may be a small number of white racists who will vote for McCain because he is white but I believe that is a very small minority whereas with a large percentage of the Obama voting Black community in America I believe they are voting Obama simply because of his skin colour. I believe Obama has also brought up race a lot and played that card when it has never been an issue for America in general just an issue for Obama and a large percentage of black Obama voters.

A great man once said the following: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

Surely if you were going to vote for someone in the US election based on the content of their character and not on their skin colour then you would vote for McCain? His character is outstanding in my opinion whereas Obamas is very shady, secretive and shifty.

Who is Obama?

Obama has been compared with Jimmy Carter. I think that's a good comparison. I think he may be an even worse president than Carter though as he is even further to the left.

I believe Obama has tried to come over to the American people as a cross between Martin Luther King, John F Kennedy, Nelson Mandela, Ronald Reagan and Princess Diana all rolled into one. Obama is a populist and revels in popularity. He enjoys giving his speeches and saying the spin he thinks people want to hear. Obama believes he is the messiah! He has never actually really played the role of Obama. Who is the true Barack Obama? Does anybody know?

All I have seen from Obama is a lot of talk rhetoric and spin, oh and all these slogans like "Change" and "Yes we can". Err, no you can't mate, no you can't! And that will be proved.

Someone I think Barack Obama is a lot like is Tony Blair. The only difference I see between them is that Obama is far left and Tony Blair despite being leader of the Labour Party and Prime Minister here in the UK for ten years was more of a centrist. The reason I compare him to Tony Blair even though Obama is far left and Blair was centrist and some say even slightly right of centre is because they are both good at spin and deception especially when it comes to tax and spend, and screwing the people.

I think with Obama you can never be sure what he is going to do if elected and lacking the experience of someone like a McCain he could do a heck of a lot of damage. So Obama is a lot like Tony Blair he is a spin-doctor. But in addition to that he is also extremely naïve and wet behind the ears and unlike Blair, Obama is a full on socialist leftie.

Socialism

"If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its a duck". Obama speeches are full of socialist rhetoric and socialism. He is a socialist. Everything I have heard from him smacks of socialism. I should know I live in the UK and we have the Labour party in power for over a decade, currently run by Prime Minister Gordon Brown, a socialist and former student union Marxist.

I believe if Obama is elected then he could do quite a lot of damage to the US within a four-year term. The US constitution could hang by a thread and I see the US becoming more like China and the EU. I think you'll suffer the horrors of universal healthcare and you'll also see crime rocket out of control when they try and bring in more gun controls all over the country and tippex out your magnificent constitution. You can kiss goodbye to a large chunk of freedom if Obama becomes your next president.

"Socialism is the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism."

I pulled that from the dictionary.

Things like Universal healthcare, higher taxes, gun control, wealth redistribution (the transfer of money from people who earned it to those who didn't), bigger government are just part of the "socialist imperfections" along that "transitional route". This is something to be very concerned about if you're an American.

I recommend that Americans look up what socialism means in the dictionary and also look at socialist countries. If you look in the dictionary it says that socialism is "characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles". The Oxford English Dictionary says it’s an "imperfect" system, and I for one believe the dictionary.

You can also go a little further though if you want to research it some more and look at a socialist country. France is a very good example. High unemployment, high taxes, big government, sleazy politicians all to willing to surrender their country away to foreign powers i.e. the E.U. and on top of that there is the social unrest and frequent riots. Want to go that way USA? Just elect Barack Obama.

Anti-war?

For those anti-war type people on the left who seem to think that Obama will bring the entire troops home from Iraq, I think they might end up being very disappointed. If Obama is elected I believe he would withdraw the troops from Iraq, but he wouldn't bring them home, he'd move them two countries over to Afghanistan and also into Pakistan. At the same time though he would sit down with terrorist leaders like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for a cup of tea and allow them to gain greater control in the region and to develop nuclear bombs for use on peaceful nations.

Experience

Has Obama ever had a real job in his life and does he have any executive experience? I find the judgement of Obama to be poor and I find some of his friendships with dubious characters like Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and this Palestinian terrorist supporter Rashid Khalidi for which the LA Times wont release the video to be quite disturbing and not good news for America or the rest of the World and definitely not good news for Israel or Jewish people.

A Black president, a Female president, maybe both at once if Condi runs for office in the future?

I think it would be a very good thing at some stage in the future possibly near future for the US to have a black president who is experienced and "qualified to do the job". I also think it would be great for you to have a female president as well. You may get both at the same time if Condi ever runs for office. I just don't think that Obama at the moment with his stance as well as his severe lack of experience is the right choice, he simply isn't qualified.

If Obama loses

If McCain does pull it off and wins the US election I can imagine a large percentage of the black community in America as well as the left saying that the election was rigged or votes weren't counted in Florida etc, or they will play the race card and say he didn't win because white Americans are racist and didn't want to elect a black president. If Obama does lose the election it will simply be due to the fact that Americans believe he is the wrong choice isn't qualified and they don't like the content of his character.

I think Obama may very well have a lot of charisma and give electric performances on stage. He might have the gift of the gab and be an eloquent speaker, but that doesn’t make what he says right or make him fit to be President and lead America. Being a community organiser and running a campaign to be president doesn't qualify you to actually be president you need a lot more on your C.V. (résumé) than that.

Universal Healthcare

America is different from Europe in that it is not a socialist system that drags everyone down. You are extremely lucky to have low taxes and you have the choice of what healthcare insurance, life insurance etc to take out and also to save for your kids college fund, or, whether to just rely on state handouts.

Here in the UK and also in continental Europe we have less choice and because we all have to pay for universal healthcare whether we like it or not, it means we can't afford to go private and have any choice in the matter due to having the taxes taken direct from our pay checks by the government.

It means only the very rich can afford to take out their own healthcare plan and get the best treatment. Everyone else has to rely on appalling state healthcare and I can tell you that it is an absolutely dreadful system and I'd urge the American people to never ever vote for anyone who wants to implement such a system in your great country.

This is my word of warning to all Americans: "Never ever adopt a universal healthcare system". They only work in special circumstances. For us Brits those circumstances were after World War 2. Today in the 21st Century a universal healthcare system is no longer needed in Great Britain. Our universal health service is called the NHS short for National Health Service, but I refer to it as the Negligent Havoc System. The system you already have in the US is fantastic and works extremely well. If it ain’t broke, don't try to fix it!

I can safely say our national health care system the NHS is a complete joke at the moment! It costs Billions to run, its full of bureaucracy, patients have to wait weeks, months, even years until they are treated and a lot die while waiting! It was okay 50 or 60 years ago after World War 2, it certainly had its purpose, but it has failed to modernise. It is literally falling apart at the seams! In the modern world there is no need for such a costly inefficient universal health care system.

Going to a Hospital in the UK today you are essentially a guinea pig, you may as well be walking into a chamber at Porton Down or Dugway Proving Ground, you’d probably be at less risk there. If you go to hospital in the UK and get treated on the NHS, you go in with one thing and more often than not come out with something else a lot more deadly such as the MRSA life-threatening super-bug.

Some NHS hospitals even have notices on the walls about how much it costs to clean bed sheets and a lot of them don’t bother to save on money and the environment. Is it any wonder we hear of so many MRSA and super bug outbreaks over here?

You feel sick the moment you walk through the doors of one of our hospitals here in the UK. Contrast that with any hospital in the United States, when you walk through the doors over there you feel like you’ve just walked onto the Starship Enterprise! They have the best doctors, the best equipment and latest technology, bright clean hospitals well lit up with good security and where you also have some privacy in a first world, first class medical facility.

Here in the UK over the last decade the Labour government has pumped in a heck of a lot of money into our National Health Service, billions upon billions of pounds of taxpayers money, however it hasn't made a single bit of difference. We have certainly felt the money leave our pockets, but we are not getting a good deal in return.

Our health service is very bureaucratic and wasteful and all attempts to modernise it don't seem to have worked thus far. It is not a very fair, efficient or effective system. I believe 60 years ago after the end of WWII, the NHS had a useful purpose and it was needed back then but today it is costing too much money and people are not receiving the health care they are paying for.

There are numerous cases of appalling treatment on the UK's national health service. For every good case you hear about, you hear many more very negative and the present Labour government seems to not be taking responsibility for that, and making excuses.

I don't personally know of anyone who has had good treatment on the NHS under Labour government! I do however know of two relations who have experienced very bad treatment under Labour! My Uncle, who died 5 years ago, was taken ill suddenly. He had brain cancer, which, was irreversible and had spread too far for them to be able to treat effectively. He was left in the corridor of the hospital on a flimsy trolley to die because they didn't have anywhere to put him for quite a long time, and, he had people walking up and down the corridor bumping into him when he was critically ill, and should have been in intensive care!

And also in June of 2004 my Mothers cousin had a heart attack. He was taken to hospital, and they discovered he had 80% blocked arteries and would need a triple heart bypass operation urgently! He had to wait and only got treatment in January 2005 when he had the operation 7 months later!!!

Without wanting to sound arrogant and that I am speaking for everyone in the UK, I believe the consensus of a large majority of us is that our NHS is in a dreadful state and getting worse and that universal healthcare doesn't work.

Why should you or I have to pay out of our taxes for the treatment of someone who has smoked or taken drugs, eaten fast food or who drinks large quantities of alcohol? Why should we pay for their treatment when they become ill because of this? The answer is that we shouldn't have to and it would be wrong to use our taxes for that purpose. This is why private medical insurance is always the best and most fair system. It means that those who take more risks with their health pay more, and those who look after themselves and their bodies pay less over their lifetime. We're not all dragged down and punished because of the inadequates in society.

I believe that there should always be very basic cover provided by the government for those who are not able to help themselves such as the disabled, but for the rest of us able bodied people we should pay our way and not expect handouts from government, and we should also not want big government interfering any more into our lives and business.

If Obama is elected and implements universal healthcare your taxes could double and you may be a lot worse off than you are now especially if you ever need medical attention. In the US I believe roughly on average 16% of your salary goes to the government in direct taxes. Here in the UK it is more than double that. If you implement a universal healthcare system you could be paying a heck of a lot more tax and will have to rely on state healthcare as a large percentage of Americans will no longer be able to shop around for a private healthcare plan best suited to their needs. Whatever you do, don't elect someone who wants to implement universal healthcare you will regret it and it will be one of the biggest mistakes you ever make as a nation and will cost you greatly.

Not only will universal healthcare cost you a lot more in taxes, but Obama plan to sign up to things like the flawed Kyoto protocol and tax coal power is going to send your utility bills skywards as well as the cost of goods and services. You’ll be taxed on anything and everything just like we have been here in the UK. We are now paying the price for that.

Don't trust your government to look after your health, don't let them interfere in your lives any more or remove your freedoms and choices. Don't let them alter your magnificent constitution either as they will use it to remove the checks and balances and constraints on them. They will alter it to grab more power and remove accountability to the people.

Terrorists all over the world from Iran to Palestine, Venezuela to Zimbabwe are all routing for Obama to win the US election. That tells me that it would be best to vote for McCain, someone who isn’t going to pal around with terrorists or compromise US security like previous democrat governments have done and an Obama government would also do.

That’s my tuppence.

Cheers,

John
SoloNav
Thank you, John. I found your post to be both thoughtful and informative, especially the part about the universal health care package from one who has knowledge of this first-hand.

Thank you!
Grizzly
QUOTE ( john10001 )
Socialism"If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its a duck". Obama speeches are full of socialist rhetoric and socialism. He is a socialist. Everything I have heard from him smacks of socialism. I should know I live in the UK and we have the Labour party in power for over a decade, currently run by Prime Minister Gordon Brown, a socialist and former student union Marxist.

I believe if Obama is elected then he could do quite a lot of damage to the US within a four-year term. The US constitution could hang by a thread and I see the US becoming more like China and the EU. I think you'll suffer the horrors of universal healthcare and you'll also see crime rocket out of control when they try and bring in more gun controls all over the country and tippex out your magnificent constitution. You can kiss goodbye to a large chunk of freedom if Obama becomes your next president.

"Socialism is the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism."

I pulled that from the dictionary.

Things like Universal healthcare, higher taxes, gun control, wealth redistribution (the transfer of money from people who earned it to those who didn't), bigger government are just part of the "socialist imperfections" along that "transitional route". This is something to be very concerned about if you're an American.

I recommend that Americans look up what socialism means in the dictionary and also look at socialist countries. If you look in the dictionary it says that socialism is "characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles". The Oxford English Dictionary says it's an "imperfect" system, and I for one believe the dictionary.

You can also go a little further though if you want to research it some more and look at a socialist country. France is a very good example. High unemployment, high taxes, big government, sleazy politicians all to willing to surrender their country away to foreign powers i.e. the E.U. and on top of that there is the social unrest and frequent riots. Want to go that way USA? Just elect Barack Obama.
No comments about the way George Dubya Bush is helping out big business right now? That's not socialism? blink.gif huh.gif popcorn.gif
SoloNav
QUOTE (Grizzly @ Nov 4 2008, 08:42 AM) *
No comments about the way George Dubya Bush is helping out big business right now? That's not socialism? blink.gif huh.gif popcorn.gif

Bush isn't running, Grizz. Catch up with the times.

I can see that you've decided to use your real name over here instead of yeahsowhat like you were using at Jane. Why did you leave?
Thaiquila
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Nov 4 2008, 05:08 PM) *
Bush isn't running, Grizz. Catch up with the times.

I can see that you've decided to use your real name over here instead of yeahsowhat like you were using at Jane. Why did you leave?

McCain supported the same thing, you lying pitiful LOSER.
SoloNav
QUOTE (Thaiquila @ Nov 4 2008, 10:09 AM) *
McCain supported the same thing, you lying pitiful LOSER.

We'll see who the LOSER is.

You wanna get my help to you get you back at Jane? LOSER.
Thaiquila
QUOTE (SoloNav @ Nov 4 2008, 04:11 PM) *
We'll see who the LOSER is.

You wanna get my help to you get you back at Jane? LOSER.

The issue there was that the ban has gone longer than promised. Obviously, just an oversight.
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